Online DRM'd games. Supcom 2 now uses steam authentication, the original boxed game requires internet connection and when you connect you have to download over 2 gb or more of data.
"Clearly you don't remember fiddling with config.sys for those last few K needed for the game you just bought."
But notice how once you had that fixed, dos games were often much more stable and less crash prone. Note also you can run dos games today under dosbox emulator but many older windows direct X games are still horribly broken, Mechwarrior 2 for windows specifically used an incredibly early version of direct x which doesn't work on modern systems.
Windows is not some panacea try running an old copy of FF7 for the PC on a modern system.
I would argue that the stock market itself is unproductive to how a healthy business runs, the constant desire for growth is actually _unhealthy_ it inspires the constant pump and dump mentality of a business's employee's. You see this especially in the game's industry where entire teams are laid off and their skills go unused.
... a real study would be to take say a real racing wheel device, hook it up to a decent game with semi-real driving characteristics and see if it improves one's driving ability.
"Why is it that in 2010 we still try to create even more victimless crimes?"
Online gambling is a haven of criminal activity, many of the games are rigged easily, not to mention the hacking of other peoples computers that happens through the software or website to unsuspecting visitors. I know tonne of people who got ripped off through online casino's who had their computers hacked their email passwords stolen and as well as bank/financial data were cleaned out.
It's not that gambling isn't a "victimless crime" it's that online gambling is just so inherently corrupt.
"I think the solution to piracy is to make all games multiplayer."
Demigod was multiplayer, MMO's are multiplayer and both failed, do you see the fallacy? MMO's are totally locked down and yet they fail in droves, so what is THEIR excuse? Oh yeah thats right - the game sucked.
... comments are laughable. PC games sell less simply because Microsoft pushed the Xbox so hard and a lot of PC gamers left for console land. Now PC's get ports mainly of console titles except titles that are extremely hard to do on consoles without taking away from the game itself.
But either way developers are the only one's to blame here. Does anyone think Starcraft 2 or diablo 3 is not going to sell well?
What about the battlefield games? I'm certain the did just fine on PC. These guys are talking about the PC without noticing that the games that sell on the PC are _good games_. PC players don't like putting up with unfinished buggy crap, how many unfinished or broken games have dev's been releasing lately? A hell of a lot.
The real issue is that developers painted themselves into a corner chasing hardware and graphics if you take development costs from 10-13 years ago and compare it to today there is a HUGE increase. Developers need therefore to focus on development processes that reduce their costs and not blaming piracy.
Piracy is an excuse bad developers use because bad developers are so used to getting money for shitty games on consoles where bad games tend to sell giving developers a false impression of the quality of their games.
We can all rattle off a whole list of unfinished games over the past 5 years released on PC. Another problem is DRM and game costs, if you're game is going to have DRM that means I'm not going to pay $50 for something that will be broken and unsupported 10 years from now.
Lots of old DRM less games can be run offline, the same can't be said about DRM'd games. The industry wants to moved to a forced obsolescence model where no one owns their games and they have total control and it's sickening.
Game servers for old games in console land were shut down, why exactly should we believe developers promises that they will un-drm their game? Quite frankly someone needs to sue the industry. If I want to play a game 10 years from now unconnected from the net and the data-mining anti-privacy mothership I have every right to.
"wish they could differentiate us from our government."
When you sit there and don't do anything you're part of the problem. So they deserve to hate the american people just as much since Americans have turned into a bunch of lazy cowards. Doing nothing is saying you're ok with the current government and state of affairs, but no one wants to risk their lives to put a stop to the bullshit.
"So that makes it okay? Because there are other injustices in our society, this one is no big deal?"
My point was that human beings are _fundamentally_ unjust everyday to each other, we make endless excuses for smaller injustices that enable the larger ones. We _allow_ fundamentally wrong things and we protect the system who fund them. Until these things are recognized as wrong and we do something about them then we will continue to live in a madhouse.
Until more people can look themselves in the mirror and realize mass inaction and living in our own bubbles doesn't do anything we will continue to live in an unjust world.
I've lived long enough to realize most people are too busy chasing money to give much of a darn about their fundamental nature.
One of my fav quotes: "We must not conceal from ourselves that no improvement in the present depressing situation is possible without a severe struggle; for the handful of those who are really determined to do something is minute in comparison with the mass of the lukewarm and the misguided. And those who have an interest in keeping the machinery of war going are a very powerful body; they will stop at nothing to make public opinion subservient to their murderous ends. (Albert Einstein, 1934)
"These are people with families, with kids, with a whole lot of their own life, dreams and childhood."
And? How many people has capitalism killed? You act like we live in a _peaceful_ society, how many people took their lives due to economic fallout, how many lives are ruined by poverty caused by the system everyday? Human beings are fundamentally assholes. If you don't believe so you're too insulated from the tragedies in other places going on right now behind our backs by corporations.
"I just wrote something basic enough that avoids the big issues."
Have you considered that this _not considering_ the design properly from the outset is the problem? I think that's the real issue is knowing what to avoid doing when you make a cross platform app.
"Lay a tax on items and services, and you will get less of those items and services;"
You're simple theory doesn't hold up in practice, in practice corporations try to provide the LEAST service for the MOST money, in other words they are actively trying to sabotage the economy for their own benefit. Don't believe this? Two words for you:
"You're not 'born' with a hard limit that says no matter how hard I try I can't ever learn calculus,"
You are born with a kind of hard limit you just don't see it in your lifetime because _Everyone is so average_.
Take a look at Kim Peak and Daniel tammet, these guys have _Natural_ talent things are happening and being solved automatically on a subconscious level.
The buy one get one free usually means the cost of the free one is included in the first one, so it's not really "getting one free" since the cost of the free one is covered (it's a form of lying).
Just so you know thats how I and many other people think about it.
"The point I was trying to make is that you or anyone else could have become at least as good as I am at drawing if you'd been willing to put in the time to learn the skill. "
The problem is the amount of time and the rate at which you learn, learning to draw is about observation and _conceptually_ grasping techniques and tools. Some people have _natural_ unconscious understanding of techniques and tools and if you asked them outright "how do you draw so good?" they couldn't tell you exactly why. The artists that are thinkers (ones that focus on observaiton) and technique can usually tell you use x tool for this, to do this you do that.
Drawing is a process you learn by mimicking and lots of the best artists could speed up other peoples learning by posting videos on youtube and tutorials about how they go about drawing things.
But there *are* naturally talented artists who don't need training wheels or line of sight lines who can simply 'draw' from memory or their imagination, go watch something like this and check out other artists on youtube.
Many times you get a drawing wrong is because you missed a step somewhere or someone somewhere else has figured out the *best set of steps* to draw certain things in order because of problems that may crop up later if you need to change anything.
This kind of info is learned from years of experience from both trial and error.
"Now to answer your question: you are supposed to pay because 1) it is illegal to do otherwise 2) you support the developers of the games you love."
Pirates will start paying when the public domain is back and we get rid of software licensing. We deserve to OWN our software, not rent it from the mother-ship.
People use it for speed for browsing general sites. I don't do any serious surfing on it.
Let's not forget please that DNS resolvers already know a hell of a lot about us. Just using the net makes it easy to track data. Not to mention the kind of power ISP's have. Google is the LEAST of people's problems. ISP's are where the underhanded shit is going down.
He's making a generalization there will always be exceptions. Nerds tend to go for things with more depth/complexity then the average bear and it's true, he just didn't put it right unfortunately.
"that things over 200 lbs are unlikely to fly. But wait, 747s are heavier than that."
But as a GENERAL RULE most things _that cannot fly_ fly without understanding of aerodynamics and having the ability to make them fly (i.e. engines, jet fuel, understanding of lift, etc). A 747 didn't just appear one day it was a gradual process of testing and figuring out the principles of flight. Birds existed prior to 747's.
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"And you use it for what, exactly? "
Online DRM'd games. Supcom 2 now uses steam authentication, the original boxed game requires internet connection and when you connect you have to download over 2 gb or more of data.
"Clearly you don't remember fiddling with config.sys for those last few K needed for the game you just bought."
But notice how once you had that fixed, dos games were often much more stable and less crash prone. Note also you can run dos games today under dosbox emulator but many older windows direct X games are still horribly broken, Mechwarrior 2 for windows specifically used an incredibly early version of direct x which doesn't work on modern systems.
Windows is not some panacea try running an old copy of FF7 for the PC on a modern system.
... a few times to at least get some data to work with? If you're doing something like canonical is doing you think they'd want metrics.
I would argue that the stock market itself is unproductive to how a healthy business runs, the constant desire for growth is actually _unhealthy_ it inspires the constant pump and dump mentality of a business's employee's. You see this especially in the game's industry where entire teams are laid off and their skills go unused.
... a real study would be to take say a real racing wheel device, hook it up to a decent game with semi-real driving characteristics and see if it improves one's driving ability.
What about people using logitech's G25?
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/wheels/devices/131&cl=gb,en
"Why is it that in 2010 we still try to create even more victimless crimes?"
Online gambling is a haven of criminal activity, many of the games are rigged easily, not to mention the hacking of other peoples computers that happens through the software or website to unsuspecting visitors. I know tonne of people who got ripped off through online casino's who had their computers hacked their email passwords stolen and as well as bank/financial data were cleaned out.
It's not that gambling isn't a "victimless crime" it's that online gambling is just so inherently corrupt.
"I think the solution to piracy is to make all games multiplayer."
Demigod was multiplayer, MMO's are multiplayer and both failed, do you see the fallacy? MMO's are totally locked down and yet they fail in droves, so what is THEIR excuse? Oh yeah thats right - the game sucked.
... comments are laughable. PC games sell less simply because Microsoft pushed the Xbox so hard and a lot of PC gamers left for console land. Now PC's get ports mainly of console titles except titles that are extremely hard to do on consoles without taking away from the game itself.
But either way developers are the only one's to blame here. Does anyone think Starcraft 2 or diablo 3 is not going to sell well?
What about the battlefield games? I'm certain the did just fine on PC. These guys are talking about the PC without noticing that the games that sell on the PC are _good games_. PC players don't like putting up with unfinished buggy crap, how many unfinished or broken games have dev's been releasing lately? A hell of a lot.
The real issue is that developers painted themselves into a corner chasing hardware and graphics if you take development costs from 10-13 years ago and compare it to today there is a HUGE increase. Developers need therefore to focus on development processes that reduce their costs and not blaming piracy.
Piracy is an excuse bad developers use because bad developers are so used to getting money for shitty games on consoles where bad games tend to sell giving developers a false impression of the quality of their games.
We can all rattle off a whole list of unfinished games over the past 5 years released on PC. Another problem is DRM and game costs, if you're game is going to have DRM that means I'm not going to pay $50 for something that will be broken and unsupported 10 years from now.
Lots of old DRM less games can be run offline, the same can't be said about DRM'd games. The industry wants to moved to a forced obsolescence model where no one owns their games and they have total control and it's sickening.
Game servers for old games in console land were shut down, why exactly should we believe developers promises that they will un-drm their game? Quite frankly someone needs to sue the industry. If I want to play a game 10 years from now unconnected from the net and the data-mining anti-privacy mothership I have every right to.
"wish they could differentiate us from our government."
When you sit there and don't do anything you're part of the problem. So they deserve to hate the american people just as much since Americans have turned into a bunch of lazy cowards. Doing nothing is saying you're ok with the current government and state of affairs, but no one wants to risk their lives to put a stop to the bullshit.
"So that makes it okay? Because there are other injustices in our society, this one is no big deal?"
My point was that human beings are _fundamentally_ unjust everyday to each other, we make endless excuses for smaller injustices that enable the larger ones. We _allow_ fundamentally wrong things and we protect the system who fund them. Until these things are recognized as wrong and we do something about them then we will continue to live in a madhouse.
Until more people can look themselves in the mirror and realize mass inaction and living in our own bubbles doesn't do anything we will continue to live in an unjust world.
I've lived long enough to realize most people are too busy chasing money to give much of a darn about their fundamental nature.
One of my fav quotes:
"We must not conceal from ourselves that no improvement in the present depressing situation is possible without a severe struggle; for the handful of those who are really determined to do something is minute in comparison with the mass of the lukewarm and the misguided. And those who have an interest in keeping the machinery of war going are a very powerful body; they will stop at nothing to make public opinion subservient to their murderous ends. (Albert Einstein, 1934)
"These are people with families, with kids, with a whole lot of their own life, dreams and childhood."
And? How many people has capitalism killed? You act like we live in a _peaceful_ society, how many people took their lives due to economic fallout, how many lives are ruined by poverty caused by the system everyday? Human beings are fundamentally assholes. If you don't believe so you're too insulated from the tragedies in other places going on right now behind our backs by corporations.
"I just wrote something basic enough that avoids the big issues."
Have you considered that this _not considering_ the design properly from the outset is the problem? I think that's the real issue is knowing what to avoid doing when you make a cross platform app.
... is the same true for women?
"Lay a tax on items and services, and you will get less of those items and services;"
You're simple theory doesn't hold up in practice, in practice corporations try to provide the LEAST service for the MOST money, in other words they are actively trying to sabotage the economy for their own benefit. Don't believe this? Two words for you:
BAIL OUT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dJOAf2Dt98
... just get quieter in response.
"You're not 'born' with a hard limit that says no matter how hard I try I can't ever learn calculus,"
You are born with a kind of hard limit you just don't see it in your lifetime because _Everyone is so average_.
Take a look at Kim Peak and Daniel tammet, these guys have _Natural_ talent things are happening and being solved automatically on a subconscious level.
Kim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leBpj14h_uY
Daniel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbASOcqc1Ss
"I really don't get that one..."
The buy one get one free usually means the cost of the free one is included in the first one, so it's not really "getting one free" since the cost of the free one is covered (it's a form of lying).
Just so you know thats how I and many other people think about it.
"The point I was trying to make is that you or anyone else could have become at least as good as I am at drawing if you'd been willing to put in the time to learn the skill. "
The problem is the amount of time and the rate at which you learn, learning to draw is about observation and _conceptually_ grasping techniques and tools. Some people have _natural_ unconscious understanding of techniques and tools and if you asked them outright "how do you draw so good?" they couldn't tell you exactly why. The artists that are thinkers (ones that focus on observaiton) and technique can usually tell you use x tool for this, to do this you do that.
Drawing is a process you learn by mimicking and lots of the best artists could speed up other peoples learning by posting videos on youtube and tutorials about how they go about drawing things.
But there *are* naturally talented artists who don't need training wheels or line of sight lines who can simply 'draw' from memory or their imagination, go watch something like this and check out other artists on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssOJQXdwmrI
Many times you get a drawing wrong is because you missed a step somewhere or someone somewhere else has figured out the *best set of steps* to draw certain things in order because of problems that may crop up later if you need to change anything.
This kind of info is learned from years of experience from both trial and error.
"Now to answer your question: you are supposed to pay because 1) it is illegal to do otherwise 2) you support the developers of the games you love."
Pirates will start paying when the public domain is back and we get rid of software licensing. We deserve to OWN our software, not rent it from the mother-ship.
http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm
People use it for speed for browsing general sites. I don't do any serious surfing on it.
Let's not forget please that DNS resolvers already know a hell of a lot about us. Just using the net makes it easy to track data. Not to mention the kind of power ISP's have. Google is the LEAST of people's problems. ISP's are where the underhanded shit is going down.
But most people think they are above average, sometimes I wonder if they should post studies like these.
He's making a generalization there will always be exceptions. Nerds tend to go for things with more depth/complexity then the average bear and it's true, he just didn't put it right unfortunately.
"he's got to play by the rules of the real world...the one with the big blue ceiling and a concept called the rule of law."
Which are bought and sold by lobbyists. The law is such a joke because it always kowtow's in some way or another to private interests.
"that things over 200 lbs are unlikely to fly. But wait, 747s are heavier than that."
But as a GENERAL RULE most things _that cannot fly_ fly without understanding of aerodynamics and having the ability to make them fly (i.e. engines, jet fuel, understanding of lift, etc). A 747 didn't just appear one day it was a gradual process of testing and figuring out the principles of flight. Birds existed prior to 747's.