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Councilman Booted For His Farmville Obsession

Bulgarian Dimitar Kerin won't have to decide if he should tend his crops or pay attention to Plovdiv City Council business anymore. The committee voted him off 20-19, saying that he obviously "needs more time for his virtual farm." From the article: "Kerin was not alone in his obsession among council members. Council chairman Ilko Iliev had previously warned several of them that the new wireless network and laptops provided to all 51 council members were not to be used for playing games on social media sites during budget meetings. Kerin was singled out for continuing to manage his farm and milk his cows despite Iliev's warnings. "

185 comments

  1. Too nerdy. by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, what is it about this Farmville crap that turns otherwise normal people into ridiculous, obsessed nerdy dweebs? I've played WoW quite a bit, I'm really quite a nerd myself but this game looks boring as shit and it seems to drag "normal" people into it like WoW draws in nerds.

    1. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Seriously, what is it about this Farmville crap that turns otherwise normal people into ridiculous, obsessed nerdy dweebs? I've played WoW quite a bit, I'm really quite a nerd myself but this game looks boring as shit and it seems to drag "normal" people into it like WoW draws in nerds.

      My question is: Should a poster with the moniker of 'RightSaidFred99' be allowed to criticize anything at all?

    2. Re:Too nerdy. by Hatta · · Score: 1, Interesting

      That's the difference between normal people and nerds. Normal people get obsessed over things too. But it's banal, uninteresting shit they get obsessed over. Sports, soap operas, miniature figurines, gun collections, etc. Nerds get obsessed over things that are actually interesting because they requires some thought. Normal people can't relate to it, so they label it and shun it as weird, geeky, nerdy, etc.

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    3. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      >Seriously, what is it about this Farmville crap that turns otherwise normal people into ridiculous, obsessed nerdy dweebs? I've played WoW quite a bit, I'm really quite a nerd myself but this game looks boring as shit and it seems to drag "normal" people into it like WoW draws in nerds.

      *draws deep breath*
      NNNNNEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRDDDDDDDDD

    4. Re:Too nerdy. by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      My question is: where there really 98 other people signed up with "RightSaidFred" related monikers? Frankly, I'm surprised "RightSaidFred" itself was already taken!

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    5. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      These people are probably not gamers. So they probably never jumped on Harvest Moon back in the day.

      So they get on Facebook to build a social network and there they are introduced to the wonderful world of virtual life simulators like Farmville and they crack out.

      I personally go for Tetris. It is a total time killer and if I have to turn it off I do not have to worry about "saving my progress" or none of that jazz.

    6. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Or people get obsessed over things that interest them. So some people like to code in their spare time, where others enjoy walking. Still others enjoy sports and farmville

    7. Re:Too nerdy. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's funny because there were plenty of nerds in the CS department at my school, including professors, who liked sports, collected figurines (usually Warhammer shit) and liked guns. Just because you find certain things banal and other things interesting doesn't mean that every "nerd" is going to agree.

    8. Re:Too nerdy. by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Never played it, but I'm betting if you don't spend time tending your crops, they die in real-world time. I used to play a diku-mud fifteen years ago where you were charged "rent" for your equipment on a real-world basis. If you stopped playing for a while, you lost your equipment when your gold ran out. So, I used a HDD syncing bug to my advantage to clone equipment (specifically diamonds) to sell at local shops to get enough gold to last a long while. But I still got addicted because of the "gotta help my 'friends'" aspect.

    9. Re:Too nerdy. by FrozenFOXX · · Score: 1

      But it's banal, uninteresting shit they get obsessed over. Sports, soap operas, miniature figurines, gun collections, etc. Nerds get obsessed over things that are actually interesting because they requires some thought.

      [Heads off to hide his Warhammer 40,000 and Warmachine miniatures]

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    10. Re:Too nerdy. by rcuhljr · · Score: 1

      I have to agree, guns offer a lot of interesting points for nerds from interesting mechanics, to ballistics of hand loads, etc.

    11. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "WoW draws in nerds."

      WoW draws in the crappy nerds. I've never liked WoW at all and I'm pretty damn nerdy. I think this has more to do with certain kinds of minds and their triggers to addictive behavior.

    12. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nevermind the popularity of Locke.

    13. Re:Too nerdy. by Enderandrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here I'm checking Slashdot at work.

      I won't play hypocrite and blast others for what they do with their time. Everyone has their things they enjoy.

      The problem with something like Farmville is that a standard web page still appears somewhat like work. I can also content that keeping up on technology news goes along with my job. Farmville is CLEARLY not work.

      Farmville and games like it also need users to log back in and play the game at specific time intervals. My mother claimed she was massively bogged down with work, but the biggest time sink in her day was managing Farmville. The most prominent item on her desk was her schedule for what times she had to check on various crops.

      When you design games to conflict with people's schedule, and necessitate playing at specific times, you leave the domain of what I consider a casual game, and enter into the realm of chore and obsession.

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    14. Re:Too nerdy. by gsslay · · Score: 1

      Since you've clearly never played it, and relate to games in terms of WoW, let me explain.

      Imagine WoW grinding that consists of moving your mouse a tiny, minuscule fraction across the screen then clicking, then selecting from a popup menu of three options. Then repeat 20 million times. All to accompaniment of hoe-down music.

      The MMPOG element consists of your friends coming over to your farm to do the same, but invisibly, cos you can't see them.

      Having fun yet?

    15. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I liked Harvest Moon because it taught me how to nail a pink haired townie by picking flowers and shit for them. It was a great learning experience for a 10 year old.

    16. Re:Too nerdy. by mini+me · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I believe it is the time limited nature of game play. Once you have tended to your farm, there is nothing left for you to do. This builds up excitement that you will get to play again soon. That excitement keeps people coming back. If you could play FarmVille for hours on end without stopping, the novelty would quickly wear off.

    17. Re:Too nerdy. by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's the difference between normal people and nerds. Normal people get obsessed over things too. But it's banal, uninteresting shit they get obsessed over. Sports, soap operas, miniature figurines, gun collections, etc. Nerds get obsessed over things that are actually interesting because they requires some thought. Normal people can't relate to it, so they label it and shun it as weird, geeky, nerdy, etc.

      Is there any way you could have said that and come off as more of a snob? Or are gun collections or sports somehow less worthy of being obsessed over than a virtual farm?

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    18. Re:Too nerdy. by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Indeed. I have a non-nerd friend who likes guns because they go BANG and make him feel powerful.

      I, however, like guns because of the ballistics and other mechanics behind it all.

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    19. Re:Too nerdy. by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      I have to agree, guns offer a lot of interesting points for nerds from interesting mechanics, to ballistics of hand loads, etc.

      And they level the playing field. Let's face it, most stereotypical nerds and /. posters aren't going to be able to hold their own in a fight against an ex-con who spent the last five years pumping iron ;)

      God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.

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    20. Re:Too nerdy. by e2d2 · · Score: 1

      Ahem, gun collections are well within the realm of nerds. Just ask ESR, or me. I have a collection and yes I keep them around to kill men, not animals. I got guns.. ooooooh be scared. <insert scooby doo ghost laugh here>

    21. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And some like collecting the heads of noisy children...

    22. Re:Too nerdy. by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you too sexy for his criticism?

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    23. Re:Too nerdy. by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      If it's the Bernard Cribbens version, his geek credibility is intact.

      If it's the dodgy pop group.... not so much.

    24. Re:Too nerdy. by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2, Funny

      Y0u'r3 ju5+ j3a10u5 0f h+3 3133t +urn1p f4rm3r5 gu1ld! W00+!

    25. Re:Too nerdy. by Hatta · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you misread me. Gun collections and sports are equally worthy of being obsessed over as a virtual farm, none of are particularly nerdy though. Amateur astronomy, ham radio, programming, etc. are worthy of being obsessed over too. But the technical complexity of the subjects drive away people who aren't nerds.

      Everyone gets obsessed over the things that interest them. Nerds just obsess over more complex things. I hope that's a less inflammatory way of phrasing it.

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    26. Re:Too nerdy. by ImYourVirus · · Score: 1

      The 98 is probably the year he was born.

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    27. Re:Too nerdy. by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      Nerds just obsess over more complex things. I hope that's a less inflammatory way of phrasing it.

      It's less inflammatory than your previous post ("banal and uninteresting") but I still think you are stereotyping.

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    28. Re:Too nerdy. by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and 2005 was the year I was born... How many 11 year olds are currently posting to slashdot?

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    29. Re:Too nerdy. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      Nerds just obsess over more complex things. I hope that's a less inflammatory way of phrasing it.

      But that still isn't even true. There are plenty of nerds who obsess over things you find to be simple and banal. And there are plenty of nerds who don't find what you consider to be "nerd subjects" to be all that interesting.

    30. Re:Too nerdy. by Eric52902 · · Score: 2, Funny

      More to the point, how many 11 year olds know who Right Said Fred is?

    31. Re:Too nerdy. by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Would you disagree that Farmville is pretty banal? I don't think there's any real strategy to the game. From what I've read, there's not even any supply/demand dynamic to consider.

      And yeah, I'm stereotyping. There's nothing wrong with using generalizations when we realize that's what they are. There are always exceptions, but that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile to recognize trends.

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    32. Re:Too nerdy. by bennomatic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And they level the playing field.

      Wow. It's like the Internet. I wonder if there was a period where basically anyone who could scrape together enough money to buy a gun could start their own business. Were the Wells Fargo money courriers the Web 2.0 bubble of their time?

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    33. Re:Too nerdy. by ImYourVirus · · Score: 1

      I said 98 not 1998, 2 digits, when it's all of them it's something completely different (as far as I can tell anyways). Was it maybe the year you signed up?

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    34. Re:Too nerdy. by ImYourVirus · · Score: 1

      They could be 11 or 12, depending on the month born.

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    35. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stereotyping on slashdot?

      naah... never happens

    36. Re:Too nerdy. by pluther · · Score: 1

      How many 11 year olds are currently posting to slashdot?

      At least 98, it would seem...

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    37. Re:Too nerdy. by Nathrael · · Score: 1

      (usually Warhammer shit)

      Heresy!

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    38. Re:Too nerdy. by trapnest · · Score: 1

      a-men, brother.

    39. Re:Too nerdy. by shoehornjob · · Score: 1

      Farmville = Soft core gaming for the uninitiated dweeb. My wife told me I should try Mafia Wars. I was bored after 5 minutes and went back to Grand Theft Auto.

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    40. Re:Too nerdy. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Well if 98 was the year he was born and 1998 is something completely different... was he born in 1898?

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    41. Re:Too nerdy. by Columcille · · Score: 1

      "Nerds get obsessed over things that are actually interesting because they requires some thought."

      OP included WoW in his list... I am not aware that WoW requires any thought at all. Somewhat the opposite.

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    42. Re:Too nerdy. by dangitman · · Score: 0, Troll

      Seriously, what is it about these stupid fucking pictures on slashdot?

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    43. Re:Too nerdy. by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      How many 111 year olds are posting to slashdot? I was giving the benefit of the doubt when I assumed "year he was born" meant 1998 and not 1898!

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    44. Re:Too nerdy. by wjousts · · Score: 1

      You're both wrong. It's 2099. And to answer your question "how many time-travelers from the year 2099 are posting on Slashdot?", One. RightSaidFred99.

    45. Re:Too nerdy. by OnlyJedi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sports, soap operas, miniature figurines, gun collections.

      One of these things is not like the others,
      One of these things just doesn't belong,
      Can you tell which thing is not like the others
      By the time I finish my song?

      One of these things is loved by otaku
      One of them used for Warhammer games
      Collect 'em, paint 'em, spend thousands of dollars
      It'll clinch your geekdom-hood fame.

      Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
      Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
      If you guessed this one is not like the others,
      Then you're absolutely...right!

      (goes back to bask in his Warhammer, D&D, and anime figure collection)

    46. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that makes you 5 years old, not 11. You = math fail.

    47. Re:Too nerdy. by wjousts · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I found this piece rather informative:

      5 creepy ways video games are trying to get you addicted

    48. Re:Too nerdy. by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      Would you disagree that Farmville is pretty banal? I don't think there's any real strategy to the game. From what I've read, there's not even any supply/demand dynamic to consider.

      Banal is in the eyes of the beholder. I have a co-worker who likes to play PuppyWar to blow off steam after a bad day. I don't understand why it works for him but to each their own.

      There are always exceptions, but that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile to recognize trends.

      Well, I would take issue with your implication that nerds aren't interested in firearms or miniature figurines.

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    49. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many 11 year olds are currently posting to slashdot?

      I've already decided I really don't want to know.

    50. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm too sexy for slashdot
      Too sexy for slashdot
      Too sexy, too hot

    51. Re:Too nerdy. by OctaviusIII · · Score: 1

      Humbug. My complicated interests include philosophy, astronomy, and politics. My simple interests include mashing a keyboard sequentially to make a little man move on a screen (WoW), beer (a properly aged Gulden Draak is delicious), Canadian music and travel.

      Non-nerds tend to be interested in complicated things, too: politics, guns, cars, and sports (yes, it's complicated). The difference between them is the esoteric nature of the interests. Not esoteric? Normal. Esoteric? Nerd. To say otherwise is to live with a sense of superiority to which you are not due, at least not for those reasons.

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    52. Re:Too nerdy. by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Reading comprehension fail.

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    53. Re:Too nerdy. by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      Games that have a specific, real-world interval that is frequently as short as a couple hours seem to easily touch off obsessive-compulsive behavior. Farmville is especially bad because of the amount of crops that have intervals in some multiple of 24 hours. Either someone is obsessive enough to log in exactly on-time (a potential indicator of a problem in and of itself), or the schedule gets bumped out by a few minutes (or more) each time. It eventually shifts enough to force those obsessive people into (what shouldn't be) tough decisions between real life and pixels.

    54. Re:Too nerdy. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      A time traveler from 2099 who is a fan of Right Said Fred? Improbable...

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    55. Re:Too nerdy. by wjousts · · Score: 1

      Hey, Jesus wasn't appreciated as much in his time either. You just wait and see! In 1000 years time Right Said Fred will be recognized as the second coming of the messiah. You hear it here first!

    56. Re:Too nerdy. by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      He's making a generalization there will always be exceptions. Nerds tend to go for things with more depth/complexity then the average bear and it's true, he just didn't put it right unfortunately.

    57. Re:Too nerdy. by NekSnappa · · Score: 1

      Hah! My username comes from my Orc Warboss.

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    58. Re:Too nerdy. by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      I play Mafia Wars. I get X energy back every few minutes. I could time that I need to hop back on and play after so long to maximize my character. However, it isn't necessary.

      Farmville is another story. If your crops are ready in 2 hours, and you don't log back on, your crops perish. The game requires players to make real life sacrifices to meet deadlines.

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    59. Re:Too nerdy. by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 1

      So, on the left side I have my Star Wars and Star Trek figurines (properly segregated and organized chronologically) and on the right I have a several guns. Please classify me.

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    60. Re:Too nerdy. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except his generalization has been more the exception for all the nerds I've ever met.

      Nerds tend to go for things with more depth/complexity then the average bear and it's true

      I've never seen such a thing on average being true. Almost all the nerds I've come across are into just as much banal shit as the next person. Sure there might be a few areas that they like that tend to be more complex, but it's outweighed by the other shit.

    61. Re:Too nerdy. by blair1q · · Score: 1

      so did i.

      so i read it again.

      and i learned some more.

      so i read it again. and again. and again.

      but my boss walked in so i'm doing some work now. well, not now but he's used to me posting to /., so i'll be doing the work in just a minute.

      i'll read it again later, when i get home.

    62. Re:Too nerdy. by phantomfive · · Score: 1
      Here is an article talking about techniques games use to make us addicted. My favorite quote from the article:

      the attraction of a simple flash game like Bejeweled depends entirely on how badly you want to avoid doing the work you have open in the other window.

      And that also explains 100% why at this moment I am posting on slashdot.

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    63. Re:Too nerdy. by Barryke · · Score: 1

      Just entered that artist in Last.fm and i'm entertained now. Thanks Anonymous Coward!

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    64. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't that big a deal. I like to play it but I set my crops (and grow just one type) to a 1 day cycle. I harvest them at the start of the day (when I have to logon for work anyway), reseed and I'm done. Friday I seed with a crop with a 3 day cycle so it is ready for Monday. You don't have to monitor it that much.

      I can see people constantly monitoring it to get gifts that come up but I run a utility to get them for me automatically so I don't have to monitor that either.

    65. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's some good trolling there. That, or you really can't add.

    66. Re:Too nerdy. by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      True dat. The "New Testament" was originally written as a comedy (Virgin birth?!? What a joke!). Then people started taking it WAY too seriously. Dudes, you need to have a better understanding of ancient Jewish humor! Come on... how could anybody not find "The Parable of the 10 virgins" absolutely hilarious? Really, that book was the "Life of Brian" of it's day!

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    67. Re:Too nerdy. by Barryke · · Score: 1

      Humour basicly. Isn't funny when you make it permanent, so i hope to see those stupid fucking pictures only sporadic.

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    68. Re:Too nerdy. by Macrat · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Or you might be a red-neck

    69. Re:Too nerdy. by shermo · · Score: 1

      They ran into this problem with daily cooldowns in WoW. It gradually gets pushed back later and later since you're invariably going to be a few minutes late at times. Eventually it's a choice of go to bed or stay awake to do daily transmutes.

      Luckily they realized this and changed the all the cooldowns to 23 hours. Problem solved.

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    70. Re:Too nerdy. by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      Banal is in the eyes of the beholder. I have a co-worker who likes to play PuppyWar to blow off steam after a bad day. I don't understand why it works for him but to each their own.

      You genuinely don't understand how a person might relax by looking at photos of cute animals?

    71. Re:Too nerdy. by Macrat · · Score: 1

      I got guns.. ooooooh be scared. <insert scooby doo ghost laugh here>

      Especially when you're off your meds or you get drunk.

    72. Re:Too nerdy. by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      Except his generalization has been more the exception for all the nerds I've ever met.

      Nerds tend to go for things with more depth/complexity then the average bear and it's true

      I've never seen such a thing on average being true. Almost all the nerds I've come across are into just as much banal shit as the next person. Sure there might be a few areas that they like that tend to be more complex, but it's outweighed by the other shit.

      I think the problem here is that you're challenging the conventional definition of the word 'nerd'. Remember, 'nerd' isn't a race, religion, or nationality - it is a description. You could also say that you know nerds that are extremely popular with women, drive expensive cars, lead political parties, and enjoy reading Redbook. That's possible, but only when the word 'nerd' no longer holds any useful meaning outside of 'person'.

    73. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A nerd who is protective of his figurines?

    74. Re:Too nerdy. by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      My simple interests include mashing a keyboard sequentially to make a little man move on a screen (WoW)

      I'm not sure who decided it was cool to bash WoW in this way, but it probably doesn't fit within your category. If you're logging on to explore the world and see how far you can fall without dieing, like my eight year old likes to do, okay fine. Anything beyond that isn't exactly as 'simple' as drinking a beer, especially so at max level. Have you ever tried doing decent Feral DPS without a mod?

    75. Re:Too nerdy. by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      Again...

      I'm not sure who decided it was cool to bash WoW in this way, but it probably doesn't fit within your category. If you're logging on to explore the world and see how far you can fall without dieing, like my eight year old likes to do, okay fine. Anything beyond that isn't exactly 'simple', especially at max level. Have you ever tried doing decent Feral DPS without a mod?

    76. Re:Too nerdy. by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      Thought that was supposed to be Wyld Stallyns.

    77. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You genuinely don't understand how a person might relax by looking at photos of cute animals?

      Maybe he likes looking at delicous animals?

    78. Re:Too nerdy. by ajlisows · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I never understood the whole "If you are smart/nerdy, you think sports are stupid" thing. When I was younger, I had a decent sized group of friends who were all pretty much "nerdy" (Excelled in school, liked to play video games/mess with computers, liked Role playing or strategy board games, etc.) but were all almost interested in sports. Even those who were overweight/athletically challenged could be found playing pickup basketball/football/other sports on a regular basis. I keep in touch with a lot of them and they still either play sports pretty often or follow sports.

      "Fantasy Football" and the like seems to have been a huge hook for the nerd demographic. A lot of the geeky people I know participate in some type of fantasy sport, which in turn keeps them interested in watching the actual sport. Those really into it make all sorts of charts, come up with ways to try to project stats based on historical data, and all sorts of wacky stuff.

    79. Re:Too nerdy. by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the old west.

    80. Re:Too nerdy. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Like slot machines. Didn't the creator of farmville say the game was designed using casino principles, to be as addictive as possible?

    81. Re:Too nerdy. by Loomismeister · · Score: 1

      You are a moron!

    82. Re:Too nerdy. by FooHentai · · Score: 1

      This would be the same phenomenon where people perceive gamers as wasting time on a childish hobby, then themselves spend hours each day playing bejeweled/mahjong, or sat in front of the tube being fed drivel. Meanwhile, many gamers spend their time developing teams, honing tactical thinking, collaborating to create new 3d content, socializing, or solving puzzles.

    83. Re:Too nerdy. by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 1

      Frink: "N'hey hey! Ahem, n'hey.... So the compression and expansion of the longitudinal waves cause the erratic oscillation -- you can see it there -- of the neighbouring particles. Yes, what is it? What? What is it?"

      Little Girl: "Can I play with it?"

      Frink: "No, you can't play with it; you won't enjoy it on as many levels as I do.... Mm-hai bw-ha whoa-hoa. The colours, children! Mwa-ha-lee!"

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    84. Re:Too nerdy. by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

      it's more like tamaguci + sims. Smart folks limit their time to working for a bit, then planting longer items for when they come back tomorrow.

      This addresses a bigger issue though... people being on laptop and blackberries during meetings in the first place! The guy wasn't fired for playing farmville..... he was fired for playing a game during council meetings! My bosses made a point of taking pencil and paper to meetings or using the in-room projector. They also turned off their phones and held off the emails until after the meeting.... meetings get done on time 90% of the time now! Since we started this, phone users and email watchers are REALLY annoying. it's distracting as hell to have somebody on a keyboard clacking away while the boss is talking, or to hear somebody answer their phone email every 5 minutes.

      This is why pencil & paper really shines. you have spare pages to scribble if you need too, and it forces the presenters to bring materials to share and take notes on. People can go back to their cubes and download the updated documents after the meeting.

    85. Re:Too nerdy. by mirix · · Score: 1

      I've been playing Tetris for 20 years, and it's still not boring.

      I love my soviet tetrahedron overlord.

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      Sent from my PDP-11
    86. Re:Too nerdy. by mirix · · Score: 1

      errr tetromino. require coffee.

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    87. Re:Too nerdy. by Godji · · Score: 1

      ...turns otherwise normal people into ridiculous, obsessed nerdy dweebs...

      Please get your definitions right. :)

    88. Re:Too nerdy. by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

      Amateur astronomy, ham radio, programming, etc. are worthy of being obsessed over too. But the technical complexity of the subjects drive away people who aren't nerds.

      Yes, because hobbies/obsessions that require technical prowess are inherently nerdy. Right, you guys...yes you, the ones in black leather with the motorcycles?

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    89. Re:Too nerdy. by jp10558 · · Score: 1

      I'm woefully late to this discussion, but I think the main issue is Farmville. It's about as complicated as a slot machine. I haven't played it, but I've watched a few people play it and have asked several others - it's basically repeatedly clicking on something. It's the first computer game I've thought
      a) isn't repeatedly doing something what computers were invented for
      b) I think a short autoit script could do that
      It's like if you play WoW for the grind or gold farming. I mean, sure, you could - but why? It's like working at a really boring factory job for the *fun* of the job. Really? I mean, at least there you got paid. (I'm thinking of the summer I spent at a book bindery where I stripped old bindings off literally hundreds of books)... It wasn't challenging, it wasn't interesting and it certainly wouldn't be something I would *volunteer* to do. And heck, at least there I had a physical result. Somebody (local college) got books repaired or improved. With farmville, no one gets anything.

      I really can't understand it. I've not even been told it's fun by the people who play it - they say it's like an addiction, or a contest to stay ahead of someone else...

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  2. Plovdiv City? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the URL for that? Sounds like an interesting game, and they apparently need a new player.

    1. Re:Plovdiv City? by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Informative
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  3. Using a computer on company time? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd fire anyone who uses a company computer on company time for personal reasons.

    Exempting this comment posting, of course.

    1. Re:Using a computer on company time? by teh+g04t · · Score: 1

      I remember the collective groan across our call center when I blocked farmville. They started crying a couple months later when I blocked Facebook entirely just for the fun of it.

    2. Re:Using a computer on company time? by Xoltri · · Score: 1

      Wow you are so powerful.

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      -Xoltri
    3. Re:Using a computer on company time? by commodore64_love · · Score: 0

      It occurs to me that if I refrained from internet reading/posting,
      I'd have an automatic +50 bonus in my prodictivity stat (versus all my other coworkers).

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      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    4. Re:Using a computer on company time? by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      Yeah but then you'd lose office cred when you go out to lunch with coworkers and have to try to cover for the fact that you didn't see the Slashdot post that went up hours ago that they're all discussing!

    5. Re:Using a computer on company time? by teh+g04t · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are few joys in life when you are an IT Manager. It beats my normal routine of crying myself to sleep.

    6. Re:Using a computer on company time? by think_nix · · Score: 1

      I don't know about the US but here in some EU countries when you sign a contract as an employee usually you have to sign a waiver that states explicitly so , or else _said_ employer has nothing against you until they change company policy.

      I had a customer that completely blocked facebook social networking sites etc through their proxy. Soon afterwards the call center was so overflooded with calls (also from high up in management) that the admins had nothing to do but to allow access.

      I don't have the link on hand but some studies have shown that allowing employees who work long hours in front of a computer to take those few minutes and do personal stuff ie email , facebook , etc are more productive in the long run. Although you will always have problem cases, but these people will not work regardless of the situation.

      While BOFH is funny to read, there is a fine line between network nazi and allowing some net freedoms in a workplace.

    7. Re:Using a computer on company time? by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      If engaging current and new customers on Facebook isn't a part of your company's marketing plan, you've done a very good thing.

    8. Re:Using a computer on company time? by trapnest · · Score: 1

      I'm going to go out on a limb here and say GP was being sarcastic. Perhaps even mocking.

    9. Re:Using a computer on company time? by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 1

      /. is geek central, so counts a professional development/software engineering research. :-)

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    10. Re:Using a computer on company time? by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      And you seems to assume parent cries himself to sleep? Or perhaps that too was sarcasm, and he noticed it?

    11. Re:Using a computer on company time? by trapnest · · Score: 1

      Oh, no, I believed he cries him self to sleep. :\

    12. Re:Using a computer on company time? by Hyperhaplo · · Score: 1

      Oh, I believe it too.
      I bet he has a 'red folder' for "emergencies" too.

      I know I do.

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  4. In Parliamentary Bulgaria... by swanzilla · · Score: 1

    ...Farm owns you!

  5. Idiot! by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If he'd been playing SimCity instead, he could have claimed it was work related!

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    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
    1. Re:Idiot! by idontgno · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then they'd fire him for mismanaging his virtual city into bankruptcy and chain nuclear reactor accidents.

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      Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
    2. Re:Idiot! by orthancstone · · Score: 1

      Oh c'mon, how often do giant alien robots really destroy entire sections of your city? Besides, isn't that hard to raze and rebuild, right?

    3. Re:Idiot! by natehoy · · Score: 1

      Unless he applied to the virtual government and got a virtual bailout. Then it'd be time for a promotion and a big fat virtual bonus!

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      "This post contains words, known to the State of California to cause thought. Wash brain thoroughly after reading."
    4. Re:Idiot! by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 1

      But as a councilman or mayor in SimCity, can you play Farmville?

    5. Re:Idiot! by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 1

      Talk about recursion!

    6. Re:Idiot! by tunapez · · Score: 1

      If he'd been playing SimCity instead,...

      i am weak

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      Imagination drew in bold strokes, instantly serving hopes and fears, while knowledge advanced by slow increments...
  6. Time better spent by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    On Slashdot, laughing at people who lose their job over farmville and facebook.

    At least I can claim I'm keeping up to date with technology by visiting a tech web site.

  7. Good litmus test by RLiegh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you can't put down the zynga long enough to take care of your real-world job, maybe you don't need one. Normally I don't relish social darwinism, but in this case it's hard to not see the appropriateness of it.

    1. Re:Good litmus test by Sylos · · Score: 1

      I would concur, except for the part where the average working citizen will end up paying for said farmville employee.

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      'Number-memorizing Chinese people.'-Anon
  8. It doesn't look like the guys lost his job by the_humeister · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article notes that he was voted off of his committee. It doesn't say whether his actual seat is gone.

  9. Oblig. by corruptblitz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Looks like the old saying is true. You reap what you sow.

    1. Re:Oblig. by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      Looks like he's been put out to pasture.

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      If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.
  10. two news in one. by andrea.sartori · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The real news here is, they voted him out 20-19. What were they thinking? I mean, the other 19.

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    1. Re:two news in one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were also playing farmville.

    2. Re:two news in one. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      And what about the abstainer? Was he too busy playing farmville too?

    3. Re:two news in one. by ZekoMal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People in government typically don't care about their job. Unless you're IT, people in front of a computer have the priority of porn followed by youtube followed by facebook followed by twitter with actual work at the very, very bottom. Combine these two and you get half of your local government preferring to dick around than actually do what they're paid to do.

    4. Re:two news in one. by Hatta · · Score: 1, Troll

      That government which governs best, governs least. If he's playing Farmville, he can't be doing too much to interfere with people's lives.

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      Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
    5. Re:two news in one. by Nite_Hawk · · Score: 1

      They were trying to determine if it was worth risking planting raspberries given current traffic conditions for the afternoon commute home.

    6. Re:two news in one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until he's actually asked to. Which must be the real reason they removed him.

    7. Re:two news in one. by BinaryBobbie · · Score: 0

      They are actually considering allowing Facebook again after we had banned it because "it's a great way to keep in contact with business associates". My response to that is "isn't that what email, phones and conferences are for?"

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      It's because I'm new here isn't it?
    8. Re:two news in one. by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      It was a fucking budget meeting. When was the last time a budget meeting demanded your full attention?

    9. Re:two news in one. by andrea.sartori · · Score: 1

      Yesterday.

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      Mostly harmless.
    10. Re:two news in one. by matrim99 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The other 19 were thinking: "With Dimitar gone, who will fertilize my crops"?

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      Right. No, your other right. No, the other other right.
    11. Re:two news in one. by Fallingcow · · Score: 1

      Or LinkedIn, if it's gotta be a social network.

    12. Re:two news in one. by dangitman · · Score: 1

      That government which governs best, governs least. If he's playing Farmville, he can't be doing too much to interfere with people's lives.

      So, you're a fan of government waste?

      --
      ... and then they built the supercollider.
    13. Re:two news in one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very true. People in IT aren't like that at all. They have Slashdot, a news site that isn't managed by Rupert Murdoch, Xkcd, Dilbert, Penny Arcade and Ctrl-Alt-Del with actual work at the very bottom.

    14. Re:two news in one. by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Yes. Because people don't waste time using email. Seriously, how do you think people waste time before FB?

      People should be evaluated based on objectives. If they can do the work they're paid for, why do you care if they also use FB? And if they can't, who cares if it's FB the culprit? People should be responsible for their time.

      That seems like a call center where my uncle used to work. Sometimes they had 30min+ of nothing to do, yet they couldn't access their mail. Why? The number of picked up calls was monitored, the average time per call was monitored, and all calls were recorded and many reviewed.
      Why should it be different if someone is wasting time in FB or are simply incapable of performing the job?

    15. Re:two news in one. by hierophanta · · Score: 1

      he was busy getting voted out

    16. Re:two news in one. by Jahws · · Score: 1

      As I've been told by someone who works in state government, the one good thing about finally getting into a government job is that it takes nothing short of an act of Congress to fire you from said job.

      With it being so hard to actually lose a government job, it's fairly easy to see where the lack of motivation comes from.

      Unfortunately (?) for this person, the "act of Congress" actually happened.

  11. online version of meth addiction by IronDragon · · Score: 1

    It would appear that the tammogotchi has a thriving offspring.

    And this is why I play games - not work them as a second job.

  12. For a serious look at the sociological by ClosedSource · · Score: 4, Funny

    implications of Farmville see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odBDAcOEKuI

    1. Re:For a serious look at the sociological by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      That was one of the best laughs I've had in a long time. Thanks!

  13. what were the thinking? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    they were thinking "i'm next"

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  14. I Want Him For My Councilman by Petersko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've considered throwing a brick through the front glass on city hall to indicate how I feel about my local government's obscene spending policies. Time spent playing online games is time during which they aren't spending ridiculous amounts of money on stupid, wasteful things.

    I want them to do at least 80% less than they do, so if they waste a bunch of time on online games, that's okay with me.

    1. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want him for one of my Farmville neighbors. Crazy, obsessive people like him are great to play with, and it sounds like he's on all day (and probably night). Farmville can be played in 20 minutes a day if you're not obsessive, having neighbors like this (some of them really, really scare me) make the game more interesting.

    2. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by MiniMike · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've considered throwing a brick through the front glass on city hall ... < snip >... spending ridiculous amounts of money on stupid, wasteful things.

      Like new windows? Maybe you'd be better off just leaving a playstation on their doorstep.

    3. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      . . . spending ridiculous amounts of money on stupid, wasteful things . . .

      The subtle point here is that they are spending your money.

      If your local government's members were required to fund a portion of their projects with some of their own money . . . they would decide real fast that the city does not need a monorail and a special economic free trade high tech park for breeding rabbits.

      Getting back on topic . . . if this guy is forced to stop playing Farmville . . . maybe he might decide that the City of Plovdiv needs it's it own farm!

      He has learned from the game that farming is fun.

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      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    4. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      I strongly suspect that the pork in Farmville is cheaper than the pork from the Council.

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      Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
    5. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      Give your local government some credit--it can do both! Playing Farmville does not interfere with not doing their jobs, which are outsourced out to expensive consultants.

    6. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      If your local government's members were required to fund a portion of their projects with some of their own money . . . they would decide real fast that the city does not need a monorail and a special economic free trade high tech park for breeding rabbits.

      I run a hi-tech rabbit ranch, you insensitive clod!

      Okay, not really.

    7. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "I want government to do less" meme is... naively optimistic, actually. I mean, the whole point is that their priorities aren't your priorities.

      Maybe right now, they spend 80% of their time doing stuff you hate, 2% of the time doing what they're actually supposed to, and 18% on the mysterious step between underpants and profit.

      If they were to suddenly spend 80% of their time on your distraction of choice, be it backstabbing infighting in their own party, going on the news to attack the other party, or sitting in their office getting carpal tunnel... the first thing to go will be the 2% of stuff you actually wanted them to do, and the next thing to go will be the "???", and all that will be left is the stuff you hate.

      (The proper approach is to ban 'em from doing some of the stuff you hate. They'll still only spend 2% of the time doing the stuff you want, of course, but at least they'll be doing less of the stuff you hate.)

    8. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by hierophanta · · Score: 1

      republican much? ('not that there's anything wrong with that')

    9. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by Stray7Xi · · Score: 1

      I want them to do at least 80% less than they do, so if they waste a bunch of time on online games, that's okay with me.

      Except lazy administrators are the most wasteful. They take the word of the contractor that pitches "Your town needs a monorail and we're your best choice" without challenging that statement or even reading the proposal. Then they'll sign off on cost overruns without investigating (eww more work). A diligent official will actually check into those details.

      Do you also like sysadmins who play videogames rather then patch because patches might break things and right now the systems work?

  15. It's April 1st in Bulgaria by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's April 1st in Bulgaria already. They never changed to the Gregorian calendar.

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    Only three things are certain; death, taxes, and apocryphal quotations - Ben Franklin.
  16. hmm... by hypergreatthing · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that all of these new stories are April fool jokes that are a day early? Some of this stuff is really ridiculous.
    I'm not going to read anymore Slashdot for 2 days because it's gotten to be so stupid.

  17. Perils of the Digital Divide... by d1r3lnd · · Score: 1

    damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    1. Re:Perils of the Digital Divide... by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      damned if you do it way too much, damned if you don't do it at all

      Yep, that's pretty perilous...

  18. New to Farmville by e2d2 · · Score: 1

    I just rescued an unemployed council member! Please help me by sending me a were-pig or pork knight to entertain him.

  19. 51 council members??? by kehren77 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Holy crap! I've been in meetings with 20 people that take forever and are drawn out simply because too many people need to hear their own voice. I don't blame this guy for zoning out. 51 isn't a council, that's a legislature.

    1. Re:51 council members??? by zombie_monkey · · Score: 1

      He was voted off the budget committee, which is presumably comprised of a small subset of council members. Also, they are often actually called local parliaments in Bulgaria.

    2. Re:51 council members??? by zombie_monkey · · Score: 1

      Going to Wikipedia, NY City council also has 51 councillors. Looking at an American city the same size as Plovdiv, Minneapolis has 39 councillors.

  20. He's still a councilman though! by Orga · · Score: 1

    From TFA: Dimitar Kerin was voted off a committee assignment by the Plovdiv City Council He was voted off a single committee, whoppee, get back to harvesting those crops Dimitar and help put Bulgaria back on someones map.

  21. Wait, I'm NOT busy! by babboo65 · · Score: 1

    I guess the councilman will need more than his crops fertilized or a nail for his barn.

  22. False sense of accomplishment. by maillemaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I believe these sort of games provide a sense of accomplishment that many people find addictive, in spite of the fact that in reality they have accomplished nothing. It FEELS like you have accomplished something, and you feel compelled to continue on to accomplish even more.

    You could say this is a hallmark of a great game. It compels the player to play more.

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  23. You people forgot to cite another of his defenses by unity100 · · Score: 3, Funny

    he said "Im just level 40. there are councillors who are level 45. why is noone talking about them"

  24. Wait. What?? by BigBlueOx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's an AOL News?? AOL is still around???

  25. moron by unity100 · · Score: 1

    and now due to they cant find anything to busy their mind while answering shitty customer calls all day, their stress levels are going to slowly build up, and they will start reflecting it on the customers.

    well done, you made a great contribution to the company, and the customers using it. i would like to know the name of the company so i can avoid it tho, if you please. with that mindset, its sure to screw up sooner or later.

    1. Re:moron by teh+g04t · · Score: 1

      It's called humor dickwad. Deal with it.

    2. Re:moron by kyrio · · Score: 0

      Obviously they need less hours in their shifts so they can go home and play because they have so much downtime.

      Idiots like you are the ones who stand/fool around or try and leave early every day. Leading managers to believe that the extra hour or two in the day to finish all the work isn't necessary for anyone.

      Hopefully the manager at your workplace has the sense to fire you, for your laziness and abuse of their computer systems while on the clock, instead of hurting every other employees hours.

    3. Re:moron by unity100 · · Score: 1

      idiots like me has their own business.

    4. Re:moron by kyrio · · Score: 0

      Idiots do tend to run their own businesses barely breaking even month to month.

    5. Re:moron by unity100 · · Score: 1

      blah bleh blah blah.

  26. Can you please not by corbettw · · Score: 2, Funny

    put half of your opening sentence in your subject line. God, I hate people who do that.

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    God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
  27. Replace "nerd" with "intelligent person". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because they aren't necessarily the same thing, although nerds will disagree with that.

    The fact is that the overwhelming majority of people have the intellectual curiosity of a jellyfish. So long as they have a job, a car, a television, some cash, and plenty of alcohol, they are satisfied.

    Drooling vapidly in front of some "reality TV" show all evening is as good as they'll ever want to be, and any who are interested in anything other than celebrities and expensive cars is some kind of freak.

    The human species succeeds despite humans.

  28. What the? by Syberz · · Score: 1

    A guy doesn't do his job thus wasting taxpayer dollars by playing Farmville and the vote to kick him out was 20-19??? It should have been 38-1! This means that half the people on the council think that it's ok to waste taxpayer money! Wow, nice message you're sending out there...

    Before the pot/kettle arguments come in, I'd like to point out that although I am at the office, I finished work 10 mins ago and am not on the clock.

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    1. Re:What the? by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      A guy doesn't do his job thus saving taxpayer dollars...

      Minor correction, continue on!

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  29. Re:You people forgot to cite another of his defens by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

    why is noone talking about them

    What does Peter Noone have to do with any of this?

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  30. You m by ean+li · · Score: 5, Funny

    ke this?

    1. Re:You m by ukyoCE · · Score: 1

      It took me way too long to figure out why the "ean li" part was missing from the text. And then I burst out laughing in the office when I finally looked at the username. ...I hope I don't get voted out of my cubicle for that

  31. Amazing by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    What amazes me is that the time people spend on their fake farms they could raise enough food for their entire family and several neighboring families, easily. Farm for Real.

    1. Re:Amazing by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      That sounds great! Got 100k I can borrow and the ability to implant the Agricultural knowledge into my head?

      Better make that 200k.

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  32. Need gas? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so, I didn't see in the OP, whether the good Councilman needed gas for is virtual tractor, but if he fertilizes my crops, I'll be sure to send him some...

  33. You know, you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did that too.

  34. You've got it backwards by Jon.Laslow · · Score: 2, Funny

    The 20 who voted to get rid of him are the ones who play it. "Hey, let's vote him off! Then he'll have more time to fertilize our crops!"

  35. 51 council members?!?!?! by __aazsst3756 · · Score: 1

    No wonder they needed budget meetings.

  36. Remember CmdrTaco said 50 characters are enough fo by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

    r any subject line.