Why would the driver have to consent? The drive for "public security" has already diminished our rights to the point that as soon as the officer states he 'smelled weed', he has all the consent he needs.
Maybe you need to take a look at reality and hopefully begin to understand the severe slope we're already sliding down. What's next? Paying kids with new uniforms to turn in their parents for cussing?
Are we an Emergency Service? No - we are not. That is what part 90 is for.
We are hobbyist, enthusiasts that practice the radio art and sciences. As such, we develop the skills and methods to make things work, when all else fails.
We fill in, when asked, when established systems fail. We are not a "First Responder" that jumps into any and every situation with our "magic" HTs to save the day.
If you want to be part of an EmComm organization, join one - they have their own radio service under part 90 rules. They use encryption there - and it works well.
Thankfully, the public communications community has noticed when things have gone bad and we've stepped in to help. They've evolved their systems to be more robust and survive events. No, they're not perfect and there will be opportunity to help out in the future. But, we provide that help out of civic duty. Not as an EmComm service.
Allowing encryption on the Amateur Bands will further dilute the separation between our hobbyest, experimental service and established EmComm services. When those EmComm service start asking for more bandwidth to support their growth - where do you think they're going to look? If we're already providing EmComm services - predeployed, dedicated, secure encrypted, agency specific communications - what shouldn't they have our bands?
You chill beverage to hide the unpleasant flavors.
Good beer is best served just at or slightly below room temp. Keep it in a cool, dark place - it's ready when you are.
Colonials::sigh::
One method - and kinda fun too - get your Technician class ham license and setup an APRS tracker. Hams have been doing this since when, 1998 or so. It's pretty much 'ancient' tech. But robust as all get-out.
Not only can you track your scooter - but you can do other things too. Better part? Once you've got it up and running - no air charges.
http://www.aprs.org/http://www.aprs.fi/
Na, that's the nutz way of doing things. Just makes one bloody mess for everyone else.
FCC - like most of the inner beltway dwellers - just needs a re-boot.
Amateur Radio is a Communications "Hobby". An Avocation. Not a service you can subscribe to.
You have to learn how things work, set up your rig(s), antennas and accessories, learn their strengths and weaknesses, learn what modes and bands do what and why, develop your own skills and equipment, practice then - learn more, explore and understand what and how to accomplish your goals and then, "When all else fails", you can be a real asset to user agencies and even yourself. An trained, experienced RF communicator.
But, to just go get a license and expect to be able to meet emergency needs - and worse, set yourself up as such - that's a huge stretch. Yes, there are anecdotes where a few 'n00bs' have helped - but those are the exceptions and even then, they'd have been able to offer more if their foundation was deeper and broader.
That's possibly an insight into why some (of us) hams are so "anti-emergency" appearing in their perspective. If you want an "emergency" radio - go buy one. If you want to equip your emergency service with a 'back up' system. Don't use Amateur Radio - get a backup system.
It's because hams have learned the radio art, when an emergency presents, they can meet the needs "when all else fails". But you can't be proficient in the art just because you have a license. That's just the beginning. But what a journey it is!!
Jerry, with such an obvious "spin" statement, I have to wonder which one of the FCC's pet BPL investors you represent or work for?
From day one of this fiasco, BPL was touted as the great "last mile" technology for rural America. It was to make easy, fast and reliable Internet connectivity available to Ma and Pa Kettle. Now, that the FCC has been proven to be complicit in foisting this ineffective and flawed technology (that has been similarly abandoned by almost every other country that's tried it) on a gullible America, you have the gall to suggest "They didn't really mean that"???
Fess up - who's signing your checks? Or are you just blind to the facts due to sight-line obstruction?
The one good thing? Rule of Law still prevails in the US - even if it takes smashing it over the heads of those that are tasked to enforce it.
Nothing personal stim - but just asking this question shows an abysmal lack of understanding.(Maybe I missed the attendant sarcasm?)
AV software is a panacea, a vaporous comfort blanket that serves to only make the sellers money. Read the earlier comments to gain some insight into why this is so.
Then, find a local PC geek - someone who works this arena for a living, not your cousin's gamer kid - ask them to explain to you how many systems they've seen with current, up to date and active AV software from reputable vendors that have been borked beyond use by ignorant user actions.
Folks that think they're 'clean' just because their AV software dejur says they're clean are a mal-code authors wet dream.
And a "tech news" site gets all wet over this? Talk about being out of step with current technologies. Real shame when a 'tech news' site looses touch with the foundations of technology. This really does make/. look - well, rather quaint.
My son was making contacts via satellite and chatting with the ISS crew years.ago. He was 8 then. Maybe I should've submitted that to/. Who thinks it would've made front page then?
This is "Entry Level" stuff for most any ham that can breathe and talk at the same time.
That requires a license - training - practice - effort - learning - preparation - actually doing something rather than just paying some one else take care of your needs (cell co) and then whining when their stuff breaks.
Least with my HF rigs - only infrastructure I depend on for communications are the laws of physics and the presence of time/space.
Interesting in this consumer society where paying a bill insinuates the right to whine. Kudos to those that do rather than gripe.
You've never worked in health care, have you. Your apparent perceptions of medicine are quaintly naive.
I'd suggest having a sit down with, oh - say, an Oncologist. Learn something about how many are maimed to save their lives.
Your assumption of 'no therapeutic benefit' is inaccurate. There simply is no "clearly".
I'm sure you can recognize the benefit of enabling confidence and self determination - special in a demographic that often feels isolated and out of control of their own destiny.
I think this is a great idea.
And it's a right that has been recently clarified for US citizens by the SCOTUS.
Ya see, there's this one group - called the 'FCC'....
Those bumbling buncha back slapping, hand shaking smilers can't even effectively legislate a bass-ackwards technology like BPL with out getting their dicks slapped to the dirt by a bunch of amateurs.
How the hell could they ever re-write a hundred years of bandwidth/licensing regulations to allow for something effective??
Influenza virus remains viable on inorganic surfaces for how long?
Just leave it alone for that long
Or, better yet, don't worry about it at all. Why be hassled to disinfect a device of something your body is now immune to?
Methinks the OP is simply too well conditioned by Madison Avenue to consume the 'dis-infectant' mythos. Maybe just an indicator of lack of attentiveness in Micro-101 class at the community college, eh?.
If they use that info to find a lost person - cool. Mama and Papa are happy - nice newspaper articles are printed and everyone feels good and shags their squeeze feeling the hero they are.
If any info used for a criminal case is obtained 'illegally' (such as without a warrant) it is declared 'tainted' and is unusable. No one gets shagged, no one's a hero, some DA ripps some one a new ass and whatever nasties were discovered are now protected.
What's the big deal? It's not a perfect system - but parts of it generally do work, now and then.
Users should be accountable for THEIR systems as well.
Now, if the bank sold, loaned or leased to me a data terminal for accessing THEIR systems - sure, they'd be accountable for it. But since I'm using MY system, that I configured, operate and maintain - how on earth can the BANK be accountable for that?
For years now, geekly types have been crying about the vulnerability in the "popular products". Since that product held an effective monopoly on the market, consumers happily drank the only 'koo-aid' available.
Now that these same individuals that have been enjoying 'oblivious immunity' will have to pony up for the failures in their personally owned tools - they'll demand, and get, improvements.
You're doing your students and your community a total disservice by teaching to any particular software. Instead, teach them the concepts, the theory - the basics of 'how' - so they can and will be equipped to use *any* software for that type of job.
By teaching to an application - instead of the functional concepts - all you're doing is being a shill for some publisher. May as well just put up advertisements on a TV screen at the front of the room and test on that.
Teaching to an application is NOT education. At best, It's vocational training and should be done by those that support their products.
The FOSS community and those of us who simply want do do things "The Right Way"(tm) do worry about this kinda thing. Even if it's just 200 lines of cheesy, insignificant crap scraped off a web site. It's the principal that counts!
Just cuz we're a buncha penguin enthusiasts don't mean we're non-principled. Bleats to the contrary simply foster the stereotype that the Penguinista are ignorant pimply faced youth trying to get a free lunch.
Either things count or they don't. You can't have it both ways "just because".
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Something about a "Rendezvous " or something with "Rama" or the like. It's been awhile.
Why would the driver have to consent? The drive for "public security" has already diminished our rights to the point that as soon as the officer states he 'smelled weed', he has all the consent he needs. Maybe you need to take a look at reality and hopefully begin to understand the severe slope we're already sliding down. What's next? Paying kids with new uniforms to turn in their parents for cussing?
The myth that the 'security' industry is at the root of the problem
If by freely available you mean anyone can buy the proprietary DSP chip with the AMBE codec - sure.
Are we an Emergency Service? No - we are not. That is what part 90 is for.
We are hobbyist, enthusiasts that practice the radio art and sciences. As such, we develop the skills and methods to make things work, when all else fails.
We fill in, when asked, when established systems fail. We are not a "First Responder" that jumps into any and every situation with our "magic" HTs to save the day.
If you want to be part of an EmComm organization, join one - they have their own radio service under part 90 rules. They use encryption there - and it works well.
Thankfully, the public communications community has noticed when things have gone bad and we've stepped in to help. They've evolved their systems to be more robust and survive events. No, they're not perfect and there will be opportunity to help out in the future. But, we provide that help out of civic duty. Not as an EmComm service.
Allowing encryption on the Amateur Bands will further dilute the separation between our hobbyest, experimental service and established EmComm services. When those EmComm service start asking for more bandwidth to support their growth - where do you think they're going to look? If we're already providing EmComm services - predeployed, dedicated, secure encrypted, agency specific communications - what shouldn't they have our bands?
You chill beverage to hide the unpleasant flavors. Good beer is best served just at or slightly below room temp. Keep it in a cool, dark place - it's ready when you are. Colonials ::sigh::
Windows is for appliance operators. Ya see? Carries about as much cred, so why bother?
One method - and kinda fun too - get your Technician class ham license and setup an APRS tracker. Hams have been doing this since when, 1998 or so. It's pretty much 'ancient' tech. But robust as all get-out. Not only can you track your scooter - but you can do other things too. Better part? Once you've got it up and running - no air charges. http://www.aprs.org/ http://www.aprs.fi/
Na, that's the nutz way of doing things. Just makes one bloody mess for everyone else. FCC - like most of the inner beltway dwellers - just needs a re-boot.
Amateur Radio is a Communications "Hobby". An Avocation. Not a service you can subscribe to.
You have to learn how things work, set up your rig(s), antennas and accessories, learn their strengths and weaknesses, learn what modes and bands do what and why, develop your own skills and equipment, practice then - learn more, explore and understand what and how to accomplish your goals and then, "When all else fails", you can be a real asset to user agencies and even yourself. An trained, experienced RF communicator.
But, to just go get a license and expect to be able to meet emergency needs - and worse, set yourself up as such - that's a huge stretch. Yes, there are anecdotes where a few 'n00bs' have helped - but those are the exceptions and even then, they'd have been able to offer more if their foundation was deeper and broader.
That's possibly an insight into why some (of us) hams are so "anti-emergency" appearing in their perspective. If you want an "emergency" radio - go buy one. If you want to equip your emergency service with a 'back up' system. Don't use Amateur Radio - get a backup system.
It's because hams have learned the radio art, when an emergency presents, they can meet the needs "when all else fails". But you can't be proficient in the art just because you have a license. That's just the beginning. But what a journey it is!!
Jerry, with such an obvious "spin" statement, I have to wonder which one of the FCC's pet BPL investors you represent or work for?
From day one of this fiasco, BPL was touted as the great "last mile" technology for rural America. It was to make easy, fast and reliable Internet connectivity available to Ma and Pa Kettle. Now, that the FCC has been proven to be complicit in foisting this ineffective and flawed technology (that has been similarly abandoned by almost every other country that's tried it) on a gullible America, you have the gall to suggest "They didn't really mean that"???
Fess up - who's signing your checks? Or are you just blind to the facts due to sight-line obstruction?
The one good thing? Rule of Law still prevails in the US - even if it takes smashing it over the heads of those that are tasked to enforce it.
Nothing personal stim - but just asking this question shows an abysmal lack of understanding.(Maybe I missed the attendant sarcasm?)
AV software is a panacea, a vaporous comfort blanket that serves to only make the sellers money. Read the earlier comments to gain some insight into why this is so.
Then, find a local PC geek - someone who works this arena for a living, not your cousin's gamer kid - ask them to explain to you how many systems they've seen with current, up to date and active AV software from reputable vendors that have been borked beyond use by ignorant user actions.
Folks that think they're 'clean' just because their AV software dejur says they're clean are a mal-code authors wet dream.
No Kidding!!
/. look - well, rather quaint.
/. Who thinks it would've made front page then?
And a "tech news" site gets all wet over this? Talk about being out of step with current technologies. Real shame when a 'tech news' site looses touch with the foundations of technology. This really does make
My son was making contacts via satellite and chatting with the ISS crew years.ago. He was 8 then. Maybe I should've submitted that to
This is "Entry Level" stuff for most any ham that can breathe and talk at the same time.
That requires a license - training - practice - effort - learning - preparation - actually doing something rather than just paying some one else take care of your needs (cell co) and then whining when their stuff breaks.
Least with my HF rigs - only infrastructure I depend on for communications are the laws of physics and the presence of time/space.
Interesting in this consumer society where paying a bill insinuates the right to whine. Kudos to those that do rather than gripe.
as to the difference between:
Open Source software
(free, as in speech)
and
Free Software
(free, as in beer)
Several of his suggestions are available at no cost - but they are NOT open source.
You've never worked in health care, have you. Your apparent perceptions of medicine are quaintly naive.
I'd suggest having a sit down with, oh - say, an Oncologist. Learn something about how many are maimed to save their lives.
Your assumption of 'no therapeutic benefit' is inaccurate. There simply is no "clearly".
I'm sure you can recognize the benefit of enabling confidence and self determination - special in a demographic that often feels isolated and out of control of their own destiny.
I think this is a great idea.
And it's a right that has been recently clarified for US citizens by the SCOTUS.
Ya see, there's this one group - called the 'FCC'....
Those bumbling buncha back slapping, hand shaking smilers can't even effectively legislate a bass-ackwards technology like BPL with out getting their dicks slapped to the dirt by a bunch of amateurs.
How the hell could they ever re-write a hundred years of bandwidth/licensing regulations to allow for something effective??
Death to tech by bureaucracy!!
"Bush is a madman"....
but did you notice who voted FOR this thing?
FTFA - "Obama (D-IL), Yea"
Is just a clamping weight. Used to hold pieces together while adhesives cure or to prevent warping. Normal technique used in composite construction.
See the other one at the other end of the wing box?
See all the other, smaller weights?
Now tell me - you really couldn't figure this out for yourself?
You need to get out more.
Influenza virus remains viable on inorganic surfaces for how long?
Just leave it alone for that long
Or, better yet, don't worry about it at all. Why be hassled to disinfect a device of something your body is now immune to?
Methinks the OP is simply too well conditioned by Madison Avenue to consume the 'dis-infectant' mythos. Maybe just an indicator of lack of attentiveness in Micro-101 class at the community college, eh?.
If they use that info to find a lost person - cool. Mama and Papa are happy - nice newspaper articles are printed and everyone feels good and shags their squeeze feeling the hero they are.
If any info used for a criminal case is obtained 'illegally' (such as without a warrant) it is declared 'tainted' and is unusable. No one gets shagged, no one's a hero, some DA ripps some one a new ass and whatever nasties were discovered are now protected.
What's the big deal? It's not a perfect system - but parts of it generally do work, now and then.
"About damned time!", I say.
Banks are held accountable for THEIR systems.
Users should be accountable for THEIR systems as well.
Now, if the bank sold, loaned or leased to me a data terminal for accessing THEIR systems - sure, they'd be accountable for it. But since I'm using MY system, that I configured, operate and maintain - how on earth can the BANK be accountable for that?
For years now, geekly types have been crying about the vulnerability in the "popular products". Since that product held an effective monopoly on the market, consumers happily drank the only 'koo-aid' available.
Now that these same individuals that have been enjoying 'oblivious immunity' will have to pony up for the failures in their personally owned tools - they'll demand, and get, improvements.
It's only good for everyone.
You're doing your students and your community a total disservice by teaching to any particular software. Instead, teach them the concepts, the theory - the basics of 'how' - so they can and will be equipped to use *any* software for that type of job.
By teaching to an application - instead of the functional concepts - all you're doing is being a shill for some publisher. May as well just put up advertisements on a TV screen at the front of the room and test on that.
Teaching to an application is NOT education. At best, It's vocational training and should be done by those that support their products.
WE DO!!
The FOSS community and those of us who simply want do do things "The Right Way"(tm) do worry about this kinda thing. Even if it's just 200 lines of cheesy, insignificant crap scraped off a web site. It's the principal that counts!
Just cuz we're a buncha penguin enthusiasts don't mean we're non-principled. Bleats to the contrary simply foster the stereotype that the Penguinista are ignorant pimply faced youth trying to get a free lunch.
Either things count or they don't. You can't have it both ways "just because".
Sorry - forgot the link!
http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77672.html