Yes, that's exactly right. The only Sun-branded portable has been, until now, the Voyager. I've got one -- it's a surprisingly nice little machine. There's a few details at http://www.seekingfire.com/projects/e3hardware/arv ak/. I haven't put much more on it up on the web because I use the machine so rarely. If anyone with a spare 2.5" SCSI hard drive gets ahold of me so I stop using the massive external enclosure I'd definitely resurrect the machine:-)
OS X doesn't use the FreeBSD kernel. And, more importantly, FreeBSD doesn't have a 'modprobe' (that's a sign of a Linux user who has never used a BSD if I've ever seen one). 'kldload' is probably the closest equivalent and OS X doesn't have it (just checked).
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The story is covered in Hackers, by Stephen Levy. An excellent book that (judging by this review) covers much of the same ground.
There's a tutorial online if you want to get a sense of the "flavour". One of the neatest features is that there's only two points in the game... you set a time limit, and whichever team has the most points at the end of that limit. In the likely event of a tie (only 2 available points, remember) you continue in sudden-death mode to see who gets the next point.
The game encourages cooperation, back-stabbing, strategy, risk-taking and bluffing... all at once. There's expansion packs galore, enough to keep you entertained with "fresh" feeling games for years.
The downside is the the expansion packs are addictive... beer money might end up in short supply for a while as you try to juggle financial priorities;-)
In my case, it's not an "Americans are geographically challenged" thing ($deity knows that as a Canadian I won't dispute that), it's a scale thing.
Look, the entire United Kingdom is 224,820km^2. The province of Saskatchewan, where I live, is 651,900km^2 -- and it's only one of 10 provinces and 3 territories in Canada.
I mean, I've regularly driven further than the distance from London to Sellafield just to get a decent lunch! The British folks I've met are some of the nicest and neatest people I know (and the best History teacher I've ever had). But their sense of distance is at the other end ofthe scale for folsk used to living on the great plains.
For folks unfamiliar with AFS, it gives you (as compared to NFS) features like volume management, failover, Kerberos authentication, ease of client maintenance and intelligent client-side caching.
I'm a Kerberos fan. I wrote the Kerberos5 chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook (and I have a re-write mostly completed) and I worked with quite a few Realms over the past few years.
I've read Kerberos: TDG several times now, and I've tried to find the answers to obscure problems often in it -- usually, without success. I think it should have been named Kerberos: An introduction because it isn't a Definitive Guide. Look at the page count alone: it's a slim, slim book. An in spite of being slim it tends to be a repititious. Not a good sign for something trying to living up the Definitive Guide tag.
It also misses quite a few topics that would be great to see covered in a second edition:
OpenAFS (and this is a big one!)
web (browser and server) integration
A detailed discussion on setting up DNS support for Kerberos. Seriously, this eliminates most of the "maintaining a krb5.conf" issue.
GSSAPI
converting databases from Heimdal to MIT (or vice versa)
mixed KDCs (MIT master and Heimdal slave and vice versa)
scripting kadmin
best practices (i.e., what *is* a good KDC policy for new principals? Why?)
in-depth discussion on cross-realm trusts (including one-way trusts) and ways to use krb5.conf to avoid needing a ~/.k5login everywhere
Kerberos support in Ethereal, to aid in trouble-shooting (though to be fair this is fairly recent)
A real discussion of krb5to4. Sorry, a half-page doesn't cut it.
A better discussion of PAM and Kerberos. Do you know how many unrelated PAM modules there are all named krb5? Bah. If I wanted xdm and xscreensaver to do the right thing, the book wouldn't really help with that.
A listing of interesting Kerberos clients and servers and some practical configs for them would've been great. For example, Postgresql supports Kerberos, yet the book doesn't touch that.
I liked the book. I'll take it over not having an O'Reilly Kerberos book any day. But I look forward to a revised second edition;-)
It already exists. It's called the Unix shell (and the tools that run within that context).
Seriously, the Unix "toolbox" metaphor is more powerful that people seem to realize. For one example of how the shell is often underestimated, take a look at The UNIX Shell As a Fourth Generation Language, by Evan Schaffer and Mike Wolf. That's from the 1980s.
The weird thing is that I like Apha Centauri for the power politics side of things... for the first year of playing it (has it been that long since the Loki days? Sigh.) I almost always used Lal and won through world peace or being voted in as supreme leader.
I now favour Santiago and win through technology along with bullying anyone who's closer to finishing a Wonder than I am;-)
A very moldable game, it seems to be different things to different people.
I agree, Alpha Centauri is the primary game that I play to this day. The diplomancy is better than many other Civ-style games, the "modify everything" attitude is great, and the multiple ways to win are more fun than yet another take-over-the-world Pinky and the Brain scenario.
Damn you for going under, Loki, damn you all to heck!;-)
It seemed like a throwaway line in the status report, and didn't really have any details attached to it. NetBSD getting PAM is big news though -- some of the flame wars between the BSDAuth folks and the PAM folks in the NetBSD community were legendary for their ability to burn unsuspecting posters.
I found some information at a livejournal posting, but I haven't been able to dig much else up.
I mean, really, you've already said you don't have the bandwidth to download it in the first place. It follows, then, that you don't have the bandwidth to track -stable or -current and keep properly up to date either.
That's how FreeBSD works: you CVSup the current source of the operating system itself as well as the ports tree. While individual changes are small, there's a *lot* of "churn" in (for the example) the ports tree. If you're concerned about staying up to date, you won't be happy with the binary packages on the CD, you'll want to use the ports tree to download the current version of an application and compile it yourself.
For things like QT and KDE and Mozilla, you've looking at tens to hundreds of megabytes of data. Every time there's a minor version bump.
So that's obviously not feasible for you. I don't think you have a choice: you're going to be out of date. And if you're going to be out of date, why care if it's 6 months or 12 months?
This sure sounds like one of the ideas in _Eastern Standard Tribe_ (available for free download). Because of the ways that cars interact (moving around and so forth), something like a P2P system makes sense.
Has it occurred to you that the reason you're having a hard time getting a copy of FreeBSD is that you're making it hard for yourself?
Won't use a credit card, won't accept a free offer to send you a copy, don't appear to have any local friends with a burner and a high-speed connection. Ye gods, man, what do you want -- a blind-folded magic privacy fairy to drop it off with a five dollar sign taped to it for your trouble?
I suggest looking at buying a copy of a FreeBSD book that includes a CD at a local bookstore. Pay cash and wear a disguise. That way they'll never get your address. "freebsd book cd" picks up a couple of likely hits on google.
FreeBSD MIPS is, unfortunately, a bit of a pipe dream at the moment.
NetBSD MIPS is a wonderful thing, though:-)
I'm running it on an O2 named Laz and it's been both reliable and ``normal'' enough that I can treat it like any other BSD box I have. It runs headless, which is fine for what I use it for, but I'd like to see decent X support for it in NetBSD.
What other military, or coalition of militaries, represents a threat to a military that size? Who are the Americans thinking they need to defend themselves from?
When folks from other countries say that both parties in the US are right-wing, this is what they mean. A portion of those dollars are what could have been their education and health systems, still leaving them with a military equal to any possible coalition of forces.
Exactly. It's what drove me towards a powerbook instead of an ibook -- it was the extra feature that I just couldn't live without.
Yes, that's exactly right. The only Sun-branded portable has been, until now, the Voyager. I've got one -- it's a surprisingly nice little machine. There's a few details at http://www.seekingfire.com/projects/e3hardware/arv ak/. I haven't put much more on it up on the web because I use the machine so rarely. If anyone with a spare 2.5" SCSI hard drive gets ahold of me so I stop using the massive external enclosure I'd definitely resurrect the machine :-)
OS X doesn't use the FreeBSD kernel. And, more importantly, FreeBSD doesn't have a 'modprobe' (that's a sign of a Linux user who has never used a BSD if I've ever seen one). 'kldload' is probably the closest equivalent and OS X doesn't have it (just checked).
The story is covered in Hackers, by Stephen Levy. An excellent book that (judging by this review) covers much of the same ground.
The FreeBSD system is based on the NetBSD RCng system. The RCng paper is available here.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you seem to think it means."
;-P
notorious adj.
Known widely and usually unfavorably; infamous: a notorious gangster; a district notorious for vice.
OTOH, perhaps that's exactly what you meant
Like the subject said, Duel of Ages!
... you set a time limit, and whichever team has the most points at the end of that limit. In the likely event of a tie (only 2 available points, remember) you continue in sudden-death mode to see who gets the next point.
... all at once. There's expansion packs galore, enough to keep you entertained with "fresh" feeling games for years.
... beer money might end up in short supply for a while as you try to juggle financial priorities ;-)
There's a tutorial online if you want to get a sense of the "flavour". One of the neatest features is that there's only two points in the game
The game encourages cooperation, back-stabbing, strategy, risk-taking and bluffing
The downside is the the expansion packs are addictive
Not too mentiun tcpmux (check your ientd.conf man page). DNS SVC records are a related idea.
In my case, it's not an "Americans are geographically challenged" thing ($deity knows that as a Canadian I won't dispute that), it's a scale thing.
Look, the entire United Kingdom is 224,820km^2. The province of Saskatchewan, where I live, is 651,900km^2 -- and it's only one of 10 provinces and 3 territories in Canada.
I mean, I've regularly driven further than the distance from London to Sellafield just to get a decent lunch! The British folks I've met are some of the nicest and neatest people I know (and the best History teacher I've ever had). But their sense of distance is at the other end ofthe scale for folsk used to living on the great plains.
Or, for a more modern reference check out http://www.openafs.org/.
For folks unfamiliar with AFS, it gives you (as compared to NFS) features like volume management, failover, Kerberos authentication, ease of client maintenance and intelligent client-side caching.
I'm a Kerberos fan. I wrote the Kerberos5 chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook (and I have a re-write mostly completed) and I worked with quite a few Realms over the past few years.
I've read Kerberos: TDG several times now, and I've tried to find the answers to obscure problems often in it -- usually, without success. I think it should have been named Kerberos: An introduction because it isn't a Definitive Guide. Look at the page count alone: it's a slim, slim book. An in spite of being slim it tends to be a repititious. Not a good sign for something trying to living up the Definitive Guide tag.
It also misses quite a few topics that would be great to see covered in a second edition:
I liked the book. I'll take it over not having an O'Reilly Kerberos book any day. But I look forward to a revised second edition ;-)
It already exists. It's called the Unix shell (and the tools that run within that context).
Seriously, the Unix "toolbox" metaphor is more powerful that people seem to realize. For one example of how the shell is often underestimated, take a look at The UNIX Shell As a Fourth Generation Language, by Evan Schaffer and Mike Wolf. That's from the 1980s.
The weird thing is that I like Apha Centauri for the power politics side of things ... for the first year of playing it (has it been that long since the Loki days? Sigh.) I almost always used Lal and won through world peace or being voted in as supreme leader.
;-)
I now favour Santiago and win through technology along with bullying anyone who's closer to finishing a Wonder than I am
A very moldable game, it seems to be different things to different people.
I agree, Alpha Centauri is the primary game that I play to this day. The diplomancy is better than many other Civ-style games, the "modify everything" attitude is great, and the multiple ways to win are more fun than yet another take-over-the-world Pinky and the Brain scenario.
;-)
Damn you for going under, Loki, damn you all to heck!
It seemed like a throwaway line in the status report, and didn't really have any details attached to it. NetBSD getting PAM is big news though -- some of the flame wars between the BSDAuth folks and the PAM folks in the NetBSD community were legendary for their ability to burn unsuspecting posters.
I found some information at a livejournal posting, but I haven't been able to dig much else up.
Who cares if it's out of date?
I mean, really, you've already said you don't have the bandwidth to download it in the first place. It follows, then, that you don't have the bandwidth to track -stable or -current and keep properly up to date either.
That's how FreeBSD works: you CVSup the current source of the operating system itself as well as the ports tree. While individual changes are small, there's a *lot* of "churn" in (for the example) the ports tree. If you're concerned about staying up to date, you won't be happy with the binary packages on the CD, you'll want to use the ports tree to download the current version of an application and compile it yourself.
For things like QT and KDE and Mozilla, you've looking at tens to hundreds of megabytes of data. Every time there's a minor version bump.
So that's obviously not feasible for you. I don't think you have a choice: you're going to be out of date. And if you're going to be out of date, why care if it's 6 months or 12 months?
This sure sounds like one of the ideas in _Eastern Standard Tribe_ (available for free download). Because of the ways that cars interact (moving around and so forth), something like a P2P system makes sense.
Has it occurred to you that the reason you're having a hard time getting a copy of FreeBSD is that you're making it hard for yourself?
Won't use a credit card, won't accept a free offer to send you a copy, don't appear to have any local friends with a burner and a high-speed connection. Ye gods, man, what do you want -- a blind-folded magic privacy fairy to drop it off with a five dollar sign taped to it for your trouble?
I suggest looking at buying a copy of a FreeBSD book that includes a CD at a local bookstore. Pay cash and wear a disguise. That way they'll never get your address. "freebsd book cd" picks up a couple of likely hits on google.
FreeBSD MIPS is, unfortunately, a bit of a pipe dream at the moment.
:-)
NetBSD MIPS is a wonderful thing, though
I'm running it on an O2 named Laz and it's been both reliable and ``normal'' enough that I can treat it like any other BSD box I have. It runs headless, which is fine for what I use it for, but I'd like to see decent X support for it in NetBSD.
WTF do workstations and clusters have in common?
;-)
It's like you had two different thoughts, and they accidently collided in the same post
That's not a testament to the accuracy of polygraph tests, it's a testimony to how *horrible* eyewitnesses are at remembering details.
Behind every corporate website is a SysAdmin.
I'd like to hear their story -- are they just doing it for the buck? Do they believe what their web site is promoting?
Reminds me of one of my favourite quotes from the monastary:
CP/M-86 *screams* on a PII/400.
-- Dave Brown, a.s.r.
I would think so. The whole floppy image will fit in the L-II cache.
-- Mark Atwood, in reply
The US definitely has the largest military budget, by a massive stretch. See the first link from google I found as an example.
What other military, or coalition of militaries, represents a threat to a military that size? Who are the Americans thinking they need to defend themselves from?
When folks from other countries say that both parties in the US are right-wing, this is what they mean. A portion of those dollars are what could have been their education and health systems, still leaving them with a military equal to any possible coalition of forces.
I've had that exact same conversation.
/exactly/. You must live within a few miles of me :-)
I mean,