One note: It was not 800 fonts I tried to install at once but 2500 fonts. As I am stubborn I did it again, but didn't crash Win4Lin (mind you its a fresh Win98 install now)
Win4Lin has its advantages though (apart from the cons: no DirectX).
The virtual booting feels much faster than rebooting a machine. It's probably the same but it *feels* faster (30 seconds).
Because the OS is embedded on a window of its own, you can use both Linux and Win98 concurrently with hardly any speed loss on either side (ie Win4Lin runs pretty good with 8Mb ram) - that is definitely not the case with VmWare or the Ram-Gobbling Wine
If Win98/Win4Lin crashes you patiently restart the app, you still have access to the files from Linux, you still can do other things in Linux (email, surfing, etc)
One disadvantage - I dont think you can copy and paste between the two - like you can with Vmware. Mind you I think VmWare copy+paste is only one direction: Linux->WinXP
The apps in Win4Lin definitely feels faster and rock stable than in Win98 original and remains so for a long time.
The decay seems slower (but it does happen, having regclean helps) - but if you really abuse it like I did: installing thousands of dodgy shareware and then pasting over 1000 fonts at once, you may end up breaking the system for good. I like using Kazaa on it tho - because viruses and trojans are often innefective on Win4lin.
But I learnt a lesson about Windows in general - it seems all Windows versions have a software-tolerance ie: the amount of different application installed it can cope with. It's really obvious tho - the registry is the culprit. So again regcleaner really seems to help.
I have to do stuff for clients that I can't yet do very well on Linux (my fave OS by far) - such as editing Flash files, sending them Corel Draw or fixing their macros. But I definitely feel way more productive with this system Linux/Win4Lin
There is VmWare too; which I have to use to do.NET stuff. Now that is very slow to boot; maybe dual booting is better here. But again the concurrent scenario has helped me loads; saving from much frustration and somewhat protecting the Windows XP installation from viruses/worms/etc. You can hope between the OS's fast. Also you can save snapshops of Windows XP (ie freeze all your last work) and have it as a backup burnt on a CD say - can be real neat if one day your Windows XP eventually blows up too.
Last thing: I am not very fond of Wine/CrossOver but they are OK for real emergencies. Whatever the case you have much choice (but they all cost! prices of VmWare is dropping tho, I think because of a free & alternative solution coming up).
... Welllll, that boggler's a bitch, she's a big fat bitch, She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world, She's a stupid bitch, if there ever was a bitch, She's a bitch to all the boys and girls! On Monday she's a bitch, on Tuesday she's a bitch, On Wednesday through Saturday, she's a bitch Then on Sunday, just to be different, She's a super King Kamehameha bee-itch! Have you ever met my BLOGGA? She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world! She's a mean ol' bitch, and she has stupid hair, She's a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch! Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, She's a stupid bitch! That blogger's a bitch, and she sucks a dirty dick! Talk to kid-bloggers around the world, it might go a little bit something like this! Chinese Singers: *singing* French Singers: *singing* Dutch Singers: *singing* African Singers: *singing* Cartman: Have you ever met my blogger-bitch? She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world! She's a mean ol' bitch, and she has stupid hair, She's a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch! Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, She's a stupid bitch! My BlOGger's a bitch, and she sucks a dirty dick! I really mean it! She's a bitch - She's a big, fat, fucking bitch! Big ol' fat fucking bitch, EVERYONE FLOOD HER BLOG! Yeah! Cha!
No you ignorant arse - read my post.
Linux has hardly failed us - and yet we take extreme serious note (unlike Redmond) on a bug that very mild compared to Windows nasty ones. Need a list?
Someone needs to compile the source code (take it you don't even know that is) - after entering inside a Linux Box (which is pretty hard unlike Windows) - and then the kid freezes a PC (hurrah let's clap!).
But for you window users all you have to do is connect to the internet and get molested no end.
What is the big deal again?
Some are saying that this is worse than anything they've seen in Windows.
Uh?
What about/con/con.wav (Win98/NT)? /con/con.wav was a sound wave that if anyone played the system would crash bingo.
I wont go into the subject of worms/viruses.
But here we have a C-program that needs to compiled first and then executed!
It's an assembly-like infinite loop with a vengeance:
In my machine!
First you have to get inside MY machine to compile this.
while(1){do crap...};
Man, I could write 100 similar infinite-loop programs in C for Window that would freeze all the same!!!!!! and do REAL damage as I have root priviledges !!!
In Windows we had a fucking sound wave that CRASH a SERVER!!!/con/con.wav (never mind the worms/viruses). You visit a site - site plays a wave - CRASH. In fact the list of ways to crash a Windows-PC visiting a site (using IE of course) are innumberable.
Anyway lets compile the code?
Lets crash my system? (here we go - I did this: system freezes)
Now lets go for a CLEAN reboot?:
Alt-SysRq-R (keyboard in raw mode)
Alt-SysRq-S (save unsaved data to disk)
Alt-SysRq-E (send termination signal)
Alt-SysRq-I (send kill signal)
Alt-SysRq-U (remount all mounted file systems)
Alt-SysRq-B (reboots the system)
Can Windows XP/NT do that? In case of a Disaster?
Enlighten me - I am no XP-NT-Admin. My guesses are you will have to cross your fingers and reach for the reset button.
A self-spreading virus for Linux running of a kernel - now THAT would be SERIOUS news. Nevertheless I will patch it just for fun.
I am so sorry about your experience.
Shame eager people like yourself could be driven out of the Linux community, simply because of the attitude of a few. I have just one thing more to add and I sincerely hope you take notice this time: Read The Fucking Manual !!!
I've never seen such a set of unbelievable foul modding down of genuine posts!
I mean the arsehole is not being unfair (for that you need inteligence) - he is just thick, a simpleton, on auto-mode: barely reading the posts and clicking-in the radio-buttons.
This modding system would work if we had slick/cool/wise people doing it - but not by idiots like these.
NB: I am *NOT* saying this for myself - but seeing interesting remarks modded down stupidly (from people that have way more to offer than our moron in question) - does somewhat piss me off!
The vast majority of people I know who bought PDA haven't used past the 3rd day of playing. So they keep telling me not to waste my money. I am talking a handful of people here (boss, neighbour, friend, sister, cousin, etc)
But hey I want to play too!:(
Now most PDA's run Windows so that is a no-no. Sharp Zaurus are difficult to get in the UK you could use an import service but you get no pound sign - having said that I noticed you can't get a pound sign here too
Can the owners tell me why? (you bunch of disgusting outsourcerers)
... Anyway, back to the main subject I was gonna buy the extremely expensive Psion Netbook but the Linux-PDAs wave saved me from burning many-pound-sterlings unecessarily. The Malay version more than doubled in price so am not going there... site is off air anyway.
Now
this seems like a tempting and very humble solution. It runs Linux, so a nice toy to play and learn.
Strange why am I the only one who doesn't like Half-Life?
Again taste is a personal thing.
I guess the reason I don't like the game it's because the atmosphere rings so very true, I get too scared... scary-cat me:)
But nice to know we have visits from Valve here like "Gabe" and on this opportunity - not really wishing for myself but for others please attend to your fans!.
Make it as fat as you want.
Make it as skinny as you want.
What sort of stupid generalization is this?
Do the 3 main distro dictates the standard?
My desktop is not Bob's desktop (running everything under the Sun) is not Kevin's Desktop (running pekwm and a few X-apps) is not Amanda (running only the console)
Slashdot Mirror
And you won't be able to re-activate your Windows XP again
I found it the hard way.
Fair? Who said life was fair?
Check this fool.
hey thicko swaziland and brazil are two different countries. brazil hardly rank the highest these days - US rates are not way far off by comparison.
i keep losing pens
i keep staining paper-pads with coffee.
good for you.
tell me the same in 9 months time ok?
is memory stick like a USB pen drive? or is it something else?
One note: It was not 800 fonts I tried to install at once but 2500 fonts. As I am stubborn I did it again, but didn't crash Win4Lin (mind you its a fresh Win98 install now)
Sorry Errata (lol):
You can copy and paste between Win4lin (well i just did it Linux->Win4Lin)
8Mb is too little, 24 Mb is the comfit lowest limit.
Win4Lin has its advantages though (apart from the cons: no DirectX).
.NET stuff. Now that is very slow to boot; maybe dual booting is better here. But again the concurrent scenario has helped me loads; saving from much frustration and somewhat protecting the Windows XP installation from viruses/worms/etc. You can hope between the OS's fast. Also you can save snapshops of Windows XP (ie freeze all your last work) and have it as a backup burnt on a CD say - can be real neat if one day your Windows XP eventually blows up too.
The virtual booting feels much faster than rebooting a machine. It's probably the same but it *feels* faster (30 seconds).
Because the OS is embedded on a window of its own, you can use both Linux and Win98 concurrently with hardly any speed loss on either side (ie Win4Lin runs pretty good with 8Mb ram) - that is definitely not the case with VmWare or the Ram-Gobbling Wine
If Win98/Win4Lin crashes you patiently restart the app, you still have access to the files from Linux, you still can do other things in Linux (email, surfing, etc)
One disadvantage - I dont think you can copy and paste between the two - like you can with Vmware. Mind you I think VmWare copy+paste is only one direction: Linux->WinXP
The apps in Win4Lin definitely feels faster and rock stable than in Win98 original and remains so for a long time.
The decay seems slower (but it does happen, having regclean helps) - but if you really abuse it like I did: installing thousands of dodgy shareware and then pasting over 1000 fonts at once, you may end up breaking the system for good. I like using Kazaa on it tho - because viruses and trojans are often innefective on Win4lin.
But I learnt a lesson about Windows in general - it seems all Windows versions have a software-tolerance ie: the amount of different application installed it can cope with. It's really obvious tho - the registry is the culprit. So again regcleaner really seems to help.
I have to do stuff for clients that I can't yet do very well on Linux (my fave OS by far) - such as editing Flash files, sending them Corel Draw or fixing their macros. But I definitely feel way more productive with this system Linux/Win4Lin
There is VmWare too; which I have to use to do
Last thing: I am not very fond of Wine/CrossOver but they are OK for real emergencies.
Whatever the case you have much choice (but they all cost! prices of VmWare is dropping tho, I think because of a free & alternative solution coming up).
shut up porky.
oh fukk its rare but i did press submit before
checking (listening to live radio)
yeah i know its kinda "pithetic"! hahaha
shut porky
go back to work
that is what offshoring companies expect of their pawns.
... Welllll, that boggler's a bitch, she's a big fat bitch, She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world, She's a stupid bitch, if there ever was a bitch, She's a bitch to all the boys and girls! On Monday she's a bitch, on Tuesday she's a bitch, On Wednesday through Saturday, she's a bitch Then on Sunday, just to be different, She's a super King Kamehameha bee-itch! Have you ever met my BLOGGA? She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world! She's a mean ol' bitch, and she has stupid hair, She's a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch! Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, She's a stupid bitch! That blogger's a bitch, and she sucks a dirty dick! Talk to kid-bloggers around the world, it might go a little bit something like this! Chinese Singers: *singing* French Singers: *singing* Dutch Singers: *singing* African Singers: *singing* Cartman: Have you ever met my blogger-bitch? She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world! She's a mean ol' bitch, and she has stupid hair, She's a bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch! Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, She's a stupid bitch! My BlOGger's a bitch, and she sucks a dirty dick! I really mean it! She's a bitch - She's a big, fat, fucking bitch! Big ol' fat fucking bitch, EVERYONE FLOOD HER BLOG! Yeah! Cha!
ur a GENIUS :)
and here is everyone panicking patching the kernel instead.
No you ignorant arse - read my post.
Linux has hardly failed us - and yet we take extreme serious note (unlike Redmond) on a bug that very mild compared to Windows nasty ones. Need a list?
Someone needs to compile the source code (take it you don't even know that is) - after entering inside a Linux Box (which is pretty hard unlike Windows) - and then the kid freezes a PC (hurrah let's clap!).
But for you window users all you have to do is connect to the internet and get molested no end.
Some are saying that this is worse than anything they've seen in Windows.
Uh?
What about
I wont go into the subject of worms/viruses.
But here we have a C-program that needs to compiled first and then executed!
It's an assembly-like infinite loop with a vengeance:
In my machine!
First you have to get inside MY machine to compile this.
while(1){do crap
Man, I could write 100 similar infinite-loop programs in C for Window that would freeze all the same!!!!!! and do REAL damage as I have root priviledges !!!
In Windows we had a fucking sound wave that CRASH a SERVER!!!
Anyway lets compile the code?
Lets crash my system? (here we go - I did this: system freezes)
Now lets go for a CLEAN reboot?:
Can Windows XP/NT do that? In case of a Disaster?
Enlighten me - I am no XP-NT-Admin. My guesses are you will have to cross your fingers and reach for the reset button.
A self-spreading virus for Linux running of a kernel - now THAT would be SERIOUS news.
Nevertheless I will patch it just for fun.
brilliant :)
I am so sorry about your experience. Shame eager people like yourself could be driven out of the Linux community, simply because of the attitude of a few. I have just one thing more to add and I sincerely hope you take notice this time: Read The Fucking Manual !!!
yeah it sounds like a kid
or the guy was drunk/drugged.
I've never seen such a set of unbelievable foul modding down of genuine posts!
I mean the arsehole is not being unfair (for that you need inteligence) - he is just thick, a simpleton, on auto-mode: barely reading the posts and clicking-in the radio-buttons.
This modding system would work if we had slick/cool/wise people doing it - but not by idiots like these.
NB: I am *NOT* saying this for myself - but seeing interesting remarks modded down stupidly (from people that have way more to offer than our moron in question) - does somewhat piss me off!
Incest ..
Happens even in the best of families.
The vast majority of people I know who bought PDA haven't used past the 3rd day of playing. :(
... site is off air anyway.
So they keep telling me not to waste my money.
I am talking a handful of people here (boss, neighbour, friend, sister, cousin, etc)
But hey I want to play too!
Now most PDA's run Windows so that is a no-no.
Sharp Zaurus are difficult to get in the UK you could use an import service but you get no pound sign - having said that I noticed you can't get a pound sign here too
Can the owners tell me why? (you bunch of disgusting outsourcerers)
... Anyway, back to the main subject I was gonna buy the extremely expensive Psion Netbook
but the Linux-PDAs wave saved me from burning many-pound-sterlings unecessarily.
The Malay version more than doubled in price so am not going there
Now this seems like a tempting and very humble solution. It runs Linux, so a nice toy to play and learn.
Strange why am I the only one who doesn't like Half-Life? ... scary-cat me :)
Again taste is a personal thing.
I guess the reason I don't like the game it's because the atmosphere rings so very true, I get too scared
But nice to know we have visits from Valve here like "Gabe" and on this opportunity -
not really wishing for myself but for others please attend to your fans!.
It's no surprise you got your system to crash - when you find it hard even to spell Linux.
;)
It's not about you not liking Linux - it's more about Linux not liking you
Make it as fat as you want.
Make it as skinny as you want.
What sort of stupid generalization is this?
Do the 3 main distro dictates the standard?
My desktop is not Bob's desktop (running everything under the Sun) is not Kevin's Desktop (running pekwm and a few X-apps) is not Amanda (running only the console)
Linux is about choice and here is your choice!
I wonder how many Microsoft Employees come here checking Slashdot and posting Anonymously.
;)
Of course the above 5 points are complete BS.
with point number 4: telling me everything I need to know
My second guess he is an offshore worker
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