What, did you or your friend... you know... RTFM?:)
Seriously though, the first thing I do when I get a new piece of kit is read the manual front to back. Usually on the loo, but that bit's not essential.
Perhaps because several other people have wondered the same thing?
And to take your version of the question, there are several companies and organisations that have produced various "flavours" based around the linux kernel, and some (well at least one) of them have indeed been bought. There are two version of Mozilla, governed by one central body, that therefore stand as products in their own right, and high profile ones at that.
Given that I don't understand the vagueries of how the Mozilla organisation functions, and what the issues surrounding purchasing such a body could be (and apparently some other people don't either) my question is entirely valid.
It's public knowledge that Novell and IBM already have a partnership where Linux is concerned. They make it no secret that IBM invested heavily in the company to assist their acquisition of SuSE. In fact, IBM has been present at all of Novell's Knowledgeshare events, making presentations, and have made no secret of the fact that they helped Novell acquire SuSE because they didn't want to see any dominant player in the Linux marketplace (SuSE now has the corporate clout to give Redhat a run for their money).
Now that SuSE is part of their strategy, Novell are moving to make their products available on the entire set of IBM hardware.
So they are in fact already doing exactly what you've just said, and making no secret of it, either.
Simon Lidgett was running the technical demos on a load of Novell Linux knowledgeshare events that I went to. Great bloke, very enthusiastic about their push towards Linux. Although a slight tendency to tell very bad jokes about football.
It would be quite interesting to see if they pull the same move on SuSE and call the next Linux release 'Novell Linux X' or something similar though. I'm curious to see what the desktop'd look like, having heard claims that it would bring the best of both KDE and GNOME together.
Rebrading SuSE would be very very stupid, as SuSE has very highy brand awareness, especially in Europe (and by that I mean mainland Europe, particularly Germany - suprise surprise).
Novell is releasing their own Novell Linux Destkop, which is their own Gnome-based WM running on SuSE. Having seen a very brief preview, it looks similar to XD2, with the UI altered to be more "Windowsesque"
Actually, the do have a clear roadmap for consolidating all these products, and it goes something like this:
eDirectory, ZENworks, GroupWise, technologies acquired from silverstream and so on are all going to be consolidated into one product group (the name of which I forget) which can be hosted on the Novell Kernel (in the short term at least) and on the soon to be released SuSE Enterprise Server 9.
GroupWise Client and Evolution will be developed in parellel (although I suspect in time Evolution will become the core product in this area, as they are working hard to build groupwise functionality into Evolution II).
SuSE will continue development of their own products exactly as they have done before (and to the same schedule) hence OpenExchange (or SLOX) will continue to be developed and supported (it doesn't compete with GroupWise anyway, they are playing for different markets). This also includes all of SuSE's other products on which much of novell's offering will be based.
Okay, so maybe it's not clear, but there it is.
Well, apolgies for coming over all old-fashioned, but yes. I am responsible for everything my children do, I am responsible for keeping them safe, and I am responsible for knowing where they are until they are old enough to take responsibility for themselves.
Firefox won't be immune to the legions of spammers, crackers, marketers and pornographers which have already begun to exploit it.
I'd love to see your justification for that remark. Anyone, in fact, please, post a single piece of evidence corroborating what this poster has just remarked.
I've never understood why someone would need an eject button on the remote control. To put a disc in or take one out you still have to physically move to the player. I've seen the same "criticism" in some user reviews of my HD/DVD recorder (Panasonic DMR-HS2), but I've never needed such a button on my remote control.
Yes, you have a point, but at some point, someone thought it would be a good idea, and now most remote controls include that button. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm used to using it now, and not being able to do so is annoying.
The power off thing is a much more legitimate complaint though.
... don't. Just don't. It's okay if you want a second DVD player, but firstly the interface is usually annoyingly limited (for example, you cannot power off an XBox or eject a DVD using the remote) and secondly some DVDs will just refuse to work for no good reason.
Also, while the XBox is fairly decent as a DVD player (apart from the limitations mentioned above), the Sony PS2's quality leaves a lot to be desired. It's not in Sony's financial interest to focus on that aspect too much - afterall, they don't want it competing with their stand-alone offerings.
My firewall/nat/webserver/voice chat server is comprised of an AMD K6 166 running SuSE 7.2, and has been merrily running disklessly since it was installed more than a year ago.
They would rig it somehow. I don't care how illegal that is, there is NO way that Apple would proudly announce that they're 100,000,000th song winner has never used iTunes, sorry all you people who spent tens to hundreds of dollars trying to win, you should have read the T&Cs. Not a vinyl cat in hell's chance.
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As lovely as the iPod is, I don't ever see myself buying one.
Firstly, I'm not happy with something that doesn't give you a sensible method of putting tracks on it, cross platform.
Secondly, I want somthing that plays a format that other people don't control the rights to.
Thirdly, they're just too damn expensive.
So, I think I'll buy an iRiver instead.
What, did you or your friend ... you know ... RTFM? :)
Seriously though, the first thing I do when I get a new piece of kit is read the manual front to back. Usually on the loo, but that bit's not essential.
No, from what I've been told, SuSE will continue development of their own products in parallel to Novell.
Perhaps because several other people have wondered the same thing? And to take your version of the question, there are several companies and organisations that have produced various "flavours" based around the linux kernel, and some (well at least one) of them have indeed been bought. There are two version of Mozilla, governed by one central body, that therefore stand as products in their own right, and high profile ones at that. Given that I don't understand the vagueries of how the Mozilla organisation functions, and what the issues surrounding purchasing such a body could be (and apparently some other people don't either) my question is entirely valid.
Considering the amazing success of Mozilla, one can't help but wonder how long it will be before someone attempts to buy it.
So I'm curious, is that even possible? Could some big corporation just come along and buy Mozilla out?
It's public knowledge that Novell and IBM already have a partnership where Linux is concerned. They make it no secret that IBM invested heavily in the company to assist their acquisition of SuSE. In fact, IBM has been present at all of Novell's Knowledgeshare events, making presentations, and have made no secret of the fact that they helped Novell acquire SuSE because they didn't want to see any dominant player in the Linux marketplace (SuSE now has the corporate clout to give Redhat a run for their money).
Now that SuSE is part of their strategy, Novell are moving to make their products available on the entire set of IBM hardware.
So they are in fact already doing exactly what you've just said, and making no secret of it, either.
Simon Lidgett was running the technical demos on a load of Novell Linux knowledgeshare events that I went to. Great bloke, very enthusiastic about their push towards Linux. Although a slight tendency to tell very bad jokes about football.
Did they show "Lord of the Net, the two servers"?
Technically this is true, but the connector basically uses Microsoft Outlook Web Access via HTTP. Nice toy, but I wouldn't want to use it in anger.
Rebrading SuSE would be very very stupid, as SuSE has very highy brand awareness, especially in Europe (and by that I mean mainland Europe, particularly Germany - suprise surprise).
Novell is releasing their own Novell Linux Destkop, which is their own Gnome-based WM running on SuSE. Having seen a very brief preview, it looks similar to XD2, with the UI altered to be more "Windowsesque"
Actually, the do have a clear roadmap for consolidating all these products, and it goes something like this: eDirectory, ZENworks, GroupWise, technologies acquired from silverstream and so on are all going to be consolidated into one product group (the name of which I forget) which can be hosted on the Novell Kernel (in the short term at least) and on the soon to be released SuSE Enterprise Server 9. GroupWise Client and Evolution will be developed in parellel (although I suspect in time Evolution will become the core product in this area, as they are working hard to build groupwise functionality into Evolution II). SuSE will continue development of their own products exactly as they have done before (and to the same schedule) hence OpenExchange (or SLOX) will continue to be developed and supported (it doesn't compete with GroupWise anyway, they are playing for different markets). This also includes all of SuSE's other products on which much of novell's offering will be based. Okay, so maybe it's not clear, but there it is.
Well, apolgies for coming over all old-fashioned, but yes. I am responsible for everything my children do, I am responsible for keeping them safe, and I am responsible for knowing where they are until they are old enough to take responsibility for themselves.
Anything less and I am a negligent parent.
*ahem* Cue forty rabid /.ers claiming that this is redundant in a world that contains Gentoo ...
(stupid generic keyboards)
forty rabid /.ers all claiming that this redundant in a world that contains Gentoo ...
I'd love to see your justification for that remark. Anyone, in fact, please, post a single piece of evidence corroborating what this poster has just remarked.
Just in time for European Software Patents to make it redundant :)
... don't. Just don't. It's okay if you want a second DVD player, but firstly the interface is usually annoyingly limited (for example, you cannot power off an XBox or eject a DVD using the remote) and secondly some DVDs will just refuse to work for no good reason.
Also, while the XBox is fairly decent as a DVD player (apart from the limitations mentioned above), the Sony PS2's quality leaves a lot to be desired. It's not in Sony's financial interest to focus on that aspect too much - afterall, they don't want it competing with their stand-alone offerings.
longhorn:~# cd / er, no, I mean, cd \ ... I mean ... ohsodit
My firewall/nat/webserver/voice chat server is comprised of an AMD K6 166 running SuSE 7.2, and has been merrily running disklessly since it was installed more than a year ago.
They would rig it somehow. I don't care how illegal that is, there is NO way that Apple would proudly announce that they're 100,000,000th song winner has never used iTunes, sorry all you people who spent tens to hundreds of dollars trying to win, you should have read the T&Cs. Not a vinyl cat in hell's chance.
Gotta love thos hamster powered synthesisers