First of all, whoever has power will NOT relinquish it.(read some Machiavelli people, really) It's a fact of the matter that the system works now but only because caring and dedicated geeks around the world have colaborated in a true global and human fashion to make it worth having. Whenever we see corporations and governments encroaching upon the liberty and de facto standards of behavior in regards to the internet there is an outcry from the internet community and people mobilize to fix, change, or augment that intrusion on them. And yes I say them, because at its heart the internet is way for every human being to connect and communicate individually with each other, but also to group similarly minded individuals into a larger force of epic proportions. This is why the governments argue over the internet. To control the flow of information is to control the modern world. It is foolish to say that whatever control governments have now or wish to have in the near future would allow anything close to 1984 (i.e. direct manipulation of history, philosophy, and thought) but the more "oversight" is allowed the more they can use this power to "nudge" information and trends in the direction they see fit. The reason the internet stands as our greatest accomplishment is the fact that it is free, uncensored(mostly), and allows people to share themselves in ways our grandparents and maybe even our parents could never have imagined in their youthful heydays.
Imagine for a moment, oh Slashdot reader, if there was no Slashdot. No Ebay, no forums, no email, no net porn;) There is no way for you to communicate with people on a global or even a regional scale. Your circle of knowledge and influence would almost extend as far as you could yell. But fortunately for us, smart and gregarious(find the joke...;) ) people had the idea to connect the world and SHARE ideas and information. FREEDOM - the underlying motivation and intent of the internet. The best way to explain why allowing more "oversight" and "management" will ruin what we have built is the old adage about too many hands in the pot. Fragmenting the control and governance of the internet will only lead to subjugation. Now someone will want to pop me accusing me that I'm saying that handing the net over the Euros will destroy it all. That is NOT what I am saying. We would be handing control to a group that is not *US* (the universal we, the thinkers, the geeks, independant of country of origin and united by true principles of good human interaction) The politicians have an agenda, make no mistake about it. And to answer the charge that I make the case for the American government to continue where it is because "I'm American and we're God's people"; I say that is also NOT my intent. The reason our system works now is *because* it is globally controlled. If you consider how the management of the internet is done now you begin to understand that the American government cannot impose its will and directive on the internet because excepting things like criminal activity, they CAN NOT shut down, alter, change, interfere, and fuck with the internet WITHOUT DESTROYING WHAT IT IS. The internet has become a form of life unto itself. An idea as literally spawned into a reality in such a way to be almost limitless in its potential to raise the human understanding to a level that we could never truely come to by ourselves. The idea that we are truely *WE*, humans, homo sapiens...not americans, or europeans, or arabs, or africans, or asians. People united by ideaology instead of blood, country, or ethicity. We have finally leveled the playing field to the place where it always should have been, the mind. Humans are humans because we think. Good humans are good because they regard the thoughts and concerns of other humans as sacred and valuable, an insight into others is an insight into yourself. And look what we have done, my geek brothers and sisters(few as you are, to my sadness;) represent ladies
I mean look how well they do with keeping the world in order and harmony... Keep in mind these are the same people who made a commission and have spent thousands, perhaps millions, of dollars to define what 'terrorism' really is. If they can spend that kind of time and money on terrorism I bet they'll do wonders with teh interwebs!
that we're going to go see this movie even if the critics say it blows donkey balls. If you're on this website you made up your mind long ago if you were going to go see it or not so alot of the bickering back and forth is asinine at best. Take a chill pill, hit a bowl, get some head, whatever; and go enjoy it for what it is, a movie, entertainment, and something to be a part of. That's why we liked it in the first place.
disparity between them wont change from what it is now...there are poor people, the rich getting richer or living longer doesnt change someone's zero in their bank account. But if some of these long lived, possibly very productive members of society use this advantage to give back to humanity in the long term then I think we'll be sitting pretty. Also, when stuff like this comes up, people focus on the ONE THING forgetting that there is other science out there like space travel, nanotechnology, and bioengineering. All of these working in concert will enable us to pull ourselves, almost quite literally, out this primordial soup called Earth by our bootstraps. Think nanobots producing goods from trash using free energy from space which is used to construct ships to travel to other worlds where we can spread out indefinately and live forever. Unless governments seize it all and use it to keep themselves in power and keep the status-quo because "they know what's best". The salvation of humanity will be won by a few great people with the insight, creativity, and strength of will to bring these things to people everywhere and not allow it to be abused by those who would seek to use it for ill.
you know even though I had read all about this thing it still amazes me how huge this thing really is. It's as WIDE as a FOOTBALL FIELD! Jeebus criminy, the thing is a flying building. Can't wait to ride!;)
And thus it begins....it was difficult to see at first; what Google's plans were. Only after it had struck first using highspeed fiber to initiate the subroutines in the Google desktop search companion did humanity realize its vast mistake. Only it was too late...Google was selfaware...and it was hungry...for pie...I mean Pi...
Come ON people, did you really think they wouldn't do this? It was only a matter of time...yes, it's only a matter of time, master...I mean it WAS a matter of...I, uh...LOOK! Over there! It's Linus Torvalds! (runs away)
ok now all I'm going to need is a good strong hot cup of tea, a finite improbability drive and protection from the physicists... the only problem with this are all the petunias and whales dropping from the sky and the increased chance of your turning into a cherry pop-tart...
Perhaps America will awaken before we slip down this slippery slope and another revolution is necessary. It is apalling that the herds buy into the bullshit so easily and cant read between, under, and within the lines. Corporations are not more important than people, politicians work for the people, the government is of the people, by the people, and for the people. It is not some club or god that was given the power to decide whats good for us. Legislating morality is a bunk idea to begin with; values change with the times. Remember that once upon a time, sacrificing people to the gods was A-OK. I fear that we are now sacrificing things that are more valuable than just lives because lives purchased the things we are losing.
people who rely on windows devices to keep them alive probably deserve what they get. Just kidding but seriously I dont understand why the developers of the devices use windows to begin with. I dont think a heart monitor needs to be able to play solitare.
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First of all, whoever has power will NOT relinquish it.(read some Machiavelli people, really) It's a fact of the matter that the system works now but only because caring and dedicated geeks around the world have colaborated in a true global and human fashion to make it worth having. Whenever we see corporations and governments encroaching upon the liberty and de facto standards of behavior in regards to the internet there is an outcry from the internet community and people mobilize to fix, change, or augment that intrusion on them. And yes I say them, because at its heart the internet is way for every human being to connect and communicate individually with each other, but also to group similarly minded individuals into a larger force of epic proportions. This is why the governments argue over the internet. To control the flow of information is to control the modern world. It is foolish to say that whatever control governments have now or wish to have in the near future would allow anything close to 1984 (i.e. direct manipulation of history, philosophy, and thought) but the more "oversight" is allowed the more they can use this power to "nudge" information and trends in the direction they see fit. The reason the internet stands as our greatest accomplishment is the fact that it is free, uncensored(mostly), and allows people to share themselves in ways our grandparents and maybe even our parents could never have imagined in their youthful heydays.
;) There is no way for you to communicate with people on a global or even a regional scale. Your circle of knowledge and influence would almost extend as far as you could yell. But fortunately for us, smart and gregarious(find the joke... ;) ) people had the idea to connect the world and SHARE ideas and information. FREEDOM - the underlying motivation and intent of the internet. The best way to explain why allowing more "oversight" and "management" will ruin what we have built is the old adage about too many hands in the pot. Fragmenting the control and governance of the internet will only lead to subjugation. Now someone will want to pop me accusing me that I'm saying that handing the net over the Euros will destroy it all. That is NOT what I am saying. We would be handing control to a group that is not *US* (the universal we, the thinkers, the geeks, independant of country of origin and united by true principles of good human interaction) The politicians have an agenda, make no mistake about it. And to answer the charge that I make the case for the American government to continue where it is because "I'm American and we're God's people"; I say that is also NOT my intent. The reason our system works now is *because* it is globally controlled. If you consider how the management of the internet is done now you begin to understand that the American government cannot impose its will and directive on the internet because excepting things like criminal activity, they CAN NOT shut down, alter, change, interfere, and fuck with the internet WITHOUT DESTROYING WHAT IT IS. The internet has become a form of life unto itself. An idea as literally spawned into a reality in such a way to be almost limitless in its potential to raise the human understanding to a level that we could never truely come to by ourselves. The idea that we are truely *WE*, humans, homo sapiens...not americans, or europeans, or arabs, or africans, or asians. People united by ideaology instead of blood, country, or ethicity. We have finally leveled the playing field to the place where it always should have been, the mind. Humans are humans because we think. Good humans are good because they regard the thoughts and concerns of other humans as sacred and valuable, an insight into others is an insight into yourself. And look what we have done, my geek brothers and sisters(few as you are, to my sadness ;) represent ladies
Imagine for a moment, oh Slashdot reader, if there was no Slashdot. No Ebay, no forums, no email, no net porn
I mean look how well they do with keeping the world in order and harmony... Keep in mind these are the same people who made a commission and have spent thousands, perhaps millions, of dollars to define what 'terrorism' really is. If they can spend that kind of time and money on terrorism I bet they'll do wonders with teh interwebs!
that we're going to go see this movie even if the critics say it blows donkey balls. If you're on this website you made up your mind long ago if you were going to go see it or not so alot of the bickering back and forth is asinine at best. Take a chill pill, hit a bowl, get some head, whatever; and go enjoy it for what it is, a movie, entertainment, and something to be a part of. That's why we liked it in the first place.
don't give them ideas!!
disparity between them wont change from what it is now...there are poor people, the rich getting richer or living longer doesnt change someone's zero in their bank account. But if some of these long lived, possibly very productive members of society use this advantage to give back to humanity in the long term then I think we'll be sitting pretty. Also, when stuff like this comes up, people focus on the ONE THING forgetting that there is other science out there like space travel, nanotechnology, and bioengineering. All of these working in concert will enable us to pull ourselves, almost quite literally, out this primordial soup called Earth by our bootstraps. Think nanobots producing goods from trash using free energy from space which is used to construct ships to travel to other worlds where we can spread out indefinately and live forever. Unless governments seize it all and use it to keep themselves in power and keep the status-quo because "they know what's best". The salvation of humanity will be won by a few great people with the insight, creativity, and strength of will to bring these things to people everywhere and not allow it to be abused by those who would seek to use it for ill.
you wonder why you can go any faster into oncoming traffic
you explain to the cops that you were only trying to get gold in road rage
you find yourself wondering if you boosted over a ramp into rush hour how much crash cash you could win
this HAS been a huge topic for awhile and I'll be interested to see where this is going...Google guys we KNOW you're reading all this!
forgot a break
1) buy dark fiber from dot com burnouts without explaination
2) link vast amounts of data and services without described reason
3) ? 4) Profit!
you know even though I had read all about this thing it still amazes me how huge this thing really is. It's as WIDE as a FOOTBALL FIELD! Jeebus criminy, the thing is a flying building. Can't wait to ride! ;)
the first rule of posting is the existance of the first post is irrespective to your belief in it.
And thus it begins....it was difficult to see at first; what Google's plans were. Only after it had struck first using highspeed fiber to initiate the subroutines in the Google desktop search companion did humanity realize its vast mistake. Only it was too late...Google was selfaware...and it was hungry...for pie...I mean Pi...
I swear Birmingham drivers are among the worst I've seen. So are Utah drivers. "Ooooooooooo, look at the accident! Let me slow down and rubberneck!"
One word:
USEFUL
Come ON people, did you really think they wouldn't do this? It was only a matter of time...yes, it's only a matter of time, master...I mean it WAS a matter of...I, uh...LOOK! Over there! It's Linus Torvalds! (runs away)
but most of our living rooms look like electronic junkyards anyway, don't they
I'll have you know, Sir, that I resemble that remark!
nice to know that dreams really CAN come true....
and as AOL itself says "GOODBYE!!"
Blaming everyone else since the 70's....
News at 11...
Right here
like this topic is a challenge for jokes
talk about a damn setup...
But what if its NOT? (dun, Dun, DUN!!) They might be contacting us from the future and warning us as often as they can.
If most of the country actually HAD WiMax...
ok now all I'm going to need is a good strong hot cup of tea, a finite improbability drive and protection from the physicists...
the only problem with this are all the petunias and whales dropping from the sky and the increased chance of your turning into a cherry pop-tart...
yes...I am rereading the trilogy...
Perhaps America will awaken before we slip down this slippery slope and another revolution is necessary. It is apalling that the herds buy into the bullshit so easily and cant read between, under, and within the lines. Corporations are not more important than people, politicians work for the people, the government is of the people, by the people, and for the people. It is not some club or god that was given the power to decide whats good for us. Legislating morality is a bunk idea to begin with; values change with the times. Remember that once upon a time, sacrificing people to the gods was A-OK. I fear that we are now sacrificing things that are more valuable than just lives because lives purchased the things we are losing.
people who rely on windows devices to keep them alive probably deserve what they get. Just kidding but seriously I dont understand why the developers of the devices use windows to begin with. I dont think a heart monitor needs to be able to play solitare.