Exactly. So much is riding on the internet. Nevermind the fact businesses who depend heavily upon the internet for client interaction will step in by hiring sed nerds to fix the problems. Those of us who life depends on everquest and other online gaming along with those who cant live without some websites such as slashdot will step in before it comes even close....
But then again, there's a legitmate chance for the end of the world to happen in the next 2 years, more so if bush is still in office so indirectly his prediction can come true...
i see some of your point but i don't like your attitude. sure maybe you know some about computers so its ok for you, but if i wanst here along with my other co worker, this company couldnt even function for one day!
were just trying to do our job too, and a selfish attitude like you have, on ANYONE'S part, hurts the company more than it does good......
just because I don't make the company money directly, doesnt mean i dont prevent the company from losing money or making as much money as it could. if a server goes down running a client's job, i'm not here to fix it so deadline is missed, the client gets pissed, the company loses some business, has a bad rep now in the eyes of the client and the rest is history.....
I like that strategy, but what do you do when you have a critical program that needs at least power users set to even run? Finding another program is not an option either. I wish it could be but I don't have that kind of power.
Yea its not to be blown off but it also shouldn't be used to make i.e. all of a sudden the best browser on the market (i'm not saying you are but some people may see it in that light)
I've come to accept that all program WILL have security holes and i base my response on 1)how many serious security holes or crashes can be found in one program 2)how fast will the company respond to our needs about the security holes and such.
You may think you can control 10,000 machines, but at that stage of the game, 10,000 machines control you!!!!
One person sometimes can barely control one machine let alone 10,000. I can see it now "yes! 10,000 machines in my control, I can own the rule..ooo..wait what's this, a critical error occur do you wish to send report now? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN YOUR MICROSOFT!!!!"
..the good ol' people who invented the english language. Just think we use their words every single day and they get no credit! Heck, technically anything written or verbally spoken is all there's because they came up with the language!!!! where the credit for them?!
All ridiculousness aside, this is how society always operates. Columbus is credited for discovering America yet there were people in this land before he even came. Wright brothers flew the first airplane but DaVinchi had plans of a vehicle that could have flown.
Most ideas are built upon the ideas of someone else. After all, you can't have a os without the circuitry to put it on. Nore could you have neither without the discoveries of the assembly line/electricity.......Now who gets recognized or not, that's for the masses to decide.....
Bravo..bravo...this is the best post I read in a loooooong time.
I believe too we won't be a superpower forever. While I won't go into details why I think so and what not since that's for another time, i'll say..
I've been outsourced before I even got a progamming job. Went to college, all that good stuff to get a double degree in comp sci/poly sci. Tried to get a programmer job but no such luck in our sick and twisted economy(mininmum 3+years in this obscure technology another 10+ years in this blah blah blah, we all know that drill), so a year later I ended up being a sys admin. Hey i'm still grateful I ended up in it at least.
So it's easy to see why programmers here may be "extinct" when 1) the ones programming now are being outsourced 2)the ones going to school for it can't get any jobs in programming.
this sounds like the same argument i hear from other people when there is a ms post up.
all i'm gona say, what i really want is windows to be held accountable for the stability/security of the os. for soo much of the world depending upon this POS os and for ms to sh*t on people's concerns is absolutely sickening. and if ms don't want to fix it on their own, the gov needs to step in and fine them a billion a year until they get their acts together..
I like to go onto the record to say I don't consider wal-mart to be a monopoloy per say. There are many other stores in competition with it, it's just that walmart puts everything under one roof where you may need to go to 1/2 stores otherwise and they sell cheap.
Target I would consider competitioin to walmart, k-mart too though they're not really competitive anymore. And then costco is in big competition with sams club. Pretty much whatever walmart sells, they'll be a bunch of other stores, namely lessor name stores, that sells them too.
I don't like shopping in Walmart too much but I love to take my car there for oil changes. They offer a really cheap price and I don't always have to wait a year and a half to get my car back..
Anyhow, its the movie theatres RIGHT, yup that's right RIGHT to do what they want with their OWN establishment. Wether you like it or not its not important, what's important they can do it, they can get away with it, and one way or the other you/we whoever is gonna have to live with that decision.
Yes it won't socially solve anything but everyone and their mother has cell phones now. Even those non trouble causing people may acidentally leave their phone on and you hear a loud ring or they may be one of those quiet/rude people where they'll pick up the phone, talk for a minute, hang up and watch the movie like nothing happenned.
Quite frankly, I'm more pissed that the movie theatres charge and arm and a leg for 1) the price of the ticket 2) concessions. But their always trade offs in life. Try to deal with the movie theatre rules including prices and phone jamming or just go rent from blockbuster where you don't have to worry about missing a important call and its cheaper...
yea, and also the type of company you work for. i'm sure there are some good companies out there where it managers have it made........
while people bitch/moan, including myself. about our jobs, keep in mind this is the type of society we live in and keep in mind its ALOT better than the turn of the century where you can be working as long for less money and risking your life all in the name of the real ruler of this country, the dollar.
for a public kitchen flipping burgers is cool, but i did it for mcdonalds and let me tell you it sucked! i don't know how people can do it. i think i may rather be homeless than working in fast food.
i think retail business' should be ranked higher. in retail, not only do you have to deal with a-hole management you have to deal with the a-hole customer which is by far worse. plus you work weird hours in retail like 60 one week and then 15 the next.....all of course for less pay/benefits
Yea some people are like that. But wouldn't it make sense for ms, since after all this is their OWN software being affected, to find out maybe a common demonitar or how adaware works and fix those portions of windows, rather than just adding yet another app out there to detect these things?
Our company uses Suse on most of our engineer's desktops (ranging from 7.3 to 9.1 and everything in between).
In general I am very happy and pleased with Suse especially seeing how for it came since the 7.0 days. YAST and SAX2 advanced nicely where you can almost feel comfortable about configuring a linux machine. And now they try to have "plug and play" capibilities.
Yes, like any other os or distribution, it has its downfalls and it does have a couple of issues the urks the hell out of me(like so many default start up scripts and one of them can cause problems on the 64 bit platform). But I do give Suse/Novell alot of credit seeing how much they advanced over the 2 year time since i've first been introduced to Suse.
its cool you like to learn but can i ask..
why is it when a scrollie thingy works in windows everyone just like yea whatever its suppose to do that. now that linux has that capibility to do that its a disadvantage because it works just as easy as windows so you "can't learn"???
this is just me but i rather not worry about trivial things like that so i can focus my learning elsewhere like setting up server or firewalls or maybe breaking something msyelf just for shiz and giggles.
no prob, just hire some of these would be crackers, and have them attack n korea;) then you can see for sure if their legit or not. money speaks louder than country loyalty.
"what kind of drunk do you take me....AHHHH JUST HOOK IT UP TO MY VEINS" -barney
anyhow is this a good idea? you can't sleep off you hangover now and doesnt like a depressant and a upper do bad things to your body? just saying...
AIAA Long Island Section
AIAA DINNER MEETING October 14, 2004
SpaceShipOne - First Private Manned Space Program
Kevin Mickey, Vice President, Scaled Composites
LOCATION: Jillian's, Airport Plaza, Northeast corner of Rt. 110 and Rt.
24, East Farmingdale, NY
Time: 6:00 PM Sign-In, 6:30 PM Dinner, 8:00 PM Presentation
Cost: $25 Members/Guests, $15 Student Members
RSVP By October 11 to Gerry Yurchison (516) 346-0048,
Gerry.Yurchison@ngc.com
As of the latest news today, October 4th, 2004, the Scaled Composites
contender for the ten million dollar Ansari X-Prize competition has become the successful winner. They are the first privately funded team to achieve 100km altitude with a three person payload, successfully return, and repeat the flight within two weeks. The first flight for the prize was September 29th. Their second flight today was achieved only 5 short days later. Our speaker will discuss the development, testing, and organization behind the SpaceShipOne program, and be able to share details and videos related to their amazing achievement.
Mr. Mickey first joined Scaled Composites in 1986 as a Technician,
fabricating parts and aircraft made of then-revolutionary composite
materials. Later he worked at Lockheed's Skunk Works as a Program
Coordinator, responsible for programs involving RCS (radar cross
signature) models, composite structures, and flight. He then returned to
Scaled Composites as a VP, Program Management, where he has been since
1996. He is responsible for the overall execution and performance of
several projects, most notably SpaceShipOne, Scaled Composites manned
spacecraft. It is generally seen as the leading contender for the Ansari
X-Prize competition, and is the first entirely privately funded spacecraft.
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Exactly. So much is riding on the internet. Nevermind the fact businesses who depend heavily upon the internet for client interaction will step in by hiring sed nerds to fix the problems. Those of us who life depends on everquest and other online gaming along with those who cant live without some websites such as slashdot will step in before it comes even close....
But then again, there's a legitmate chance for the end of the world to happen in the next 2 years, more so if bush is still in office so indirectly his prediction can come true...
i see some of your point but i don't like your attitude. sure maybe you know some about computers so its ok for you, but if i wanst here along with my other co worker, this company couldnt even function for one day! were just trying to do our job too, and a selfish attitude like you have, on ANYONE'S part, hurts the company more than it does good...... just because I don't make the company money directly, doesnt mean i dont prevent the company from losing money or making as much money as it could. if a server goes down running a client's job, i'm not here to fix it so deadline is missed, the client gets pissed, the company loses some business, has a bad rep now in the eyes of the client and the rest is history.....
is that some sort of weird bug that works out of convenience or is it how its suppose to be?
I like that strategy, but what do you do when you have a critical program that needs at least power users set to even run? Finding another program is not an option either. I wish it could be but I don't have that kind of power.
Yea its not to be blown off but it also shouldn't be used to make i.e. all of a sudden the best browser on the market (i'm not saying you are but some people may see it in that light)
I've come to accept that all program WILL have security holes and i base my response on 1)how many serious security holes or crashes can be found in one program 2)how fast will the company respond to our needs about the security holes and such.
That may work, until one of the workers turns over to the dark side and then were at square one all over again.......
when you working with soo many people, there are bound to be traitors...
because there all still in elemntary school or have an elementary school education :)
there's probably only a handful of good written virus threats. the others are just using someone elses' code/hacks and what not...
You may think you can control 10,000 machines, but at that stage of the game, 10,000 machines control you!!!!
One person sometimes can barely control one machine let alone 10,000. I can see it now "yes! 10,000 machines in my control, I can own the rule..ooo..wait what's this, a critical error occur do you wish to send report now? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN YOUR MICROSOFT!!!!"
..the good ol' people who invented the english language. Just think we use their words every single day and they get no credit! Heck, technically anything written or verbally spoken is all there's because they came up with the language!!!! where the credit for them?!
All ridiculousness aside, this is how society always operates. Columbus is credited for discovering America yet there were people in this land before he even came. Wright brothers flew the first airplane but DaVinchi had plans of a vehicle that could have flown.
Most ideas are built upon the ideas of someone else. After all, you can't have a os without the circuitry to put it on. Nore could you have neither without the discoveries of the assembly line/electricity.......Now who gets recognized or not, that's for the masses to decide.....
Bravo..bravo...this is the best post I read in a loooooong time.
I believe too we won't be a superpower forever. While I won't go into details why I think so and what not since that's for another time, i'll say..
I've been outsourced before I even got a progamming job. Went to college, all that good stuff to get a double degree in comp sci/poly sci. Tried to get a programmer job but no such luck in our sick and twisted economy(mininmum 3+years in this obscure technology another 10+ years in this blah blah blah, we all know that drill), so a year later I ended up being a sys admin. Hey i'm still grateful I ended up in it at least.
So it's easy to see why programmers here may be "extinct" when 1) the ones programming now are being outsourced 2)the ones going to school for it can't get any jobs in programming.
this sounds like the same argument i hear from other people when there is a ms post up. all i'm gona say, what i really want is windows to be held accountable for the stability/security of the os. for soo much of the world depending upon this POS os and for ms to sh*t on people's concerns is absolutely sickening. and if ms don't want to fix it on their own, the gov needs to step in and fine them a billion a year until they get their acts together..
pfff, you hackers have nothing on me, i can hack into my machine in a manner of seconds!!!!!!! hahahahahahaha beat that!
I like to go onto the record to say I don't consider wal-mart to be a monopoloy per say. There are many other stores in competition with it, it's just that walmart puts everything under one roof where you may need to go to 1/2 stores otherwise and they sell cheap.
Target I would consider competitioin to walmart, k-mart too though they're not really competitive anymore. And then costco is in big competition with sams club. Pretty much whatever walmart sells, they'll be a bunch of other stores, namely lessor name stores, that sells them too.
I don't like shopping in Walmart too much but I love to take my car there for oil changes. They offer a really cheap price and I don't always have to wait a year and a half to get my car back..
Good "mature" come back.
Anyhow, its the movie theatres RIGHT, yup that's right RIGHT to do what they want with their OWN establishment. Wether you like it or not its not important, what's important they can do it, they can get away with it, and one way or the other you/we whoever is gonna have to live with that decision.
Yes it won't socially solve anything but everyone and their mother has cell phones now. Even those non trouble causing people may acidentally leave their phone on and you hear a loud ring or they may be one of those quiet/rude people where they'll pick up the phone, talk for a minute, hang up and watch the movie like nothing happenned. Quite frankly, I'm more pissed that the movie theatres charge and arm and a leg for 1) the price of the ticket 2) concessions. But their always trade offs in life. Try to deal with the movie theatre rules including prices and phone jamming or just go rent from blockbuster where you don't have to worry about missing a important call and its cheaper...
yea, and also the type of company you work for. i'm sure there are some good companies out there where it managers have it made........
while people bitch/moan, including myself. about our jobs, keep in mind this is the type of society we live in and keep in mind its ALOT better than the turn of the century where you can be working as long for less money and risking your life all in the name of the real ruler of this country, the dollar.
for a public kitchen flipping burgers is cool, but i did it for mcdonalds and let me tell you it sucked! i don't know how people can do it. i think i may rather be homeless than working in fast food.
i think retail business' should be ranked higher. in retail, not only do you have to deal with a-hole management you have to deal with the a-hole customer which is by far worse. plus you work weird hours in retail like 60 one week and then 15 the next.....all of course for less pay/benefits
Yea some people are like that. But wouldn't it make sense for ms, since after all this is their OWN software being affected, to find out maybe a common demonitar or how adaware works and fix those portions of windows, rather than just adding yet another app out there to detect these things?
Our company uses Suse on most of our engineer's desktops (ranging from 7.3 to 9.1 and everything in between).
In general I am very happy and pleased with Suse especially seeing how for it came since the 7.0 days. YAST and SAX2 advanced nicely where you can almost feel comfortable about configuring a linux machine. And now they try to have "plug and play" capibilities.
Yes, like any other os or distribution, it has its downfalls and it does have a couple of issues the urks the hell out of me(like so many default start up scripts and one of them can cause problems on the 64 bit platform). But I do give Suse/Novell alot of credit seeing how much they advanced over the 2 year time since i've first been introduced to Suse.
its cool you like to learn but can i ask.. why is it when a scrollie thingy works in windows everyone just like yea whatever its suppose to do that. now that linux has that capibility to do that its a disadvantage because it works just as easy as windows so you "can't learn"??? this is just me but i rather not worry about trivial things like that so i can focus my learning elsewhere like setting up server or firewalls or maybe breaking something msyelf just for shiz and giggles.
no prob, just hire some of these would be crackers, and have them attack n korea ;) then you can see for sure if their legit or not. money speaks louder than country loyalty.
i say, just like almost anything else, the middle ground is the right solution.
poor coding is part of the problem and poor management is too. set the two together and you have a recipe for disaster.
not everyone can program or should be programming and those that can program good can mess up too for all the reasons you ponted out.
"what kind of drunk do you take me....AHHHH JUST HOOK IT UP TO MY VEINS" -barney anyhow is this a good idea? you can't sleep off you hangover now and doesnt like a depressant and a upper do bad things to your body? just saying...
AIAA Long Island Section AIAA DINNER MEETING October 14, 2004 SpaceShipOne - First Private Manned Space Program Kevin Mickey, Vice President, Scaled Composites LOCATION: Jillian's, Airport Plaza, Northeast corner of Rt. 110 and Rt. 24, East Farmingdale, NY Time: 6:00 PM Sign-In, 6:30 PM Dinner, 8:00 PM Presentation Cost: $25 Members/Guests, $15 Student Members RSVP By October 11 to Gerry Yurchison (516) 346-0048, Gerry.Yurchison@ngc.com As of the latest news today, October 4th, 2004, the Scaled Composites contender for the ten million dollar Ansari X-Prize competition has become the successful winner. They are the first privately funded team to achieve 100km altitude with a three person payload, successfully return, and repeat the flight within two weeks. The first flight for the prize was September 29th. Their second flight today was achieved only 5 short days later. Our speaker will discuss the development, testing, and organization behind the SpaceShipOne program, and be able to share details and videos related to their amazing achievement. Mr. Mickey first joined Scaled Composites in 1986 as a Technician, fabricating parts and aircraft made of then-revolutionary composite materials. Later he worked at Lockheed's Skunk Works as a Program Coordinator, responsible for programs involving RCS (radar cross signature) models, composite structures, and flight. He then returned to Scaled Composites as a VP, Program Management, where he has been since 1996. He is responsible for the overall execution and performance of several projects, most notably SpaceShipOne, Scaled Composites manned spacecraft. It is generally seen as the leading contender for the Ansari X-Prize competition, and is the first entirely privately funded spacecraft.
69% of all statistics are made up and i have the recomendations of 3 out of 4 statisticians to back me up on this one....