I agree that *content* is best delivered dynamically. Maps change, encyclopedias change. I don't agree that efficiency should not be the foremost goal. What is more critical than your application performing with as little an impact on your system as possible? If a web page isn't an efficient model for a task, a more efficient model should be implemented. An application that is web-based for the sake of being web-based is a failure to analyze the problem over the developer's own philosophy.
Since when do webapps map to clean pages? Need I link to Google Maps again to make that point? 5 years ago, I thought something like Google Maps was impossible over the web. But it's here today, and it's surprisingly good for what it is and its limitations. Once you get a few regions into cache, it's actually very snappy. I think you miss my point. A web based app, due to the page-based nature of the model, has to be logically divided into pages. You send off an action, and if you need to do much more than rearrange things on the page, you need to get a new page. This model doesn't work terribly well for most things. In the end, you're going to wind up chaining what is for all intents and purposes a real app into the middle of a page to accomplish what you want to do.
As for Google Maps, while it is a really impressive page, you actually hit on exactly the problem: once you get it into cache, it's really snappy. Well, for a lot of applications, you can't cache as much static content as GM can. When, instead, you have a real application, you are generating the content in the most efficient internal form, rather than trying to turn it into a document model without regard for what that does to your efficiency.
Excuse me for taking so long to respond. Your joke about Java left me in stiches. Implying Java was any good. Comedic gold! Those never get boring! "Swing", "Responsive". Brilliant! Your humor works on so many levels!... That was a joke, right? I was actually hoping *that* was a joke... I mean, insults to Swing coming from someone advocating Javascript as the language of the future? Swing isn't nearly as good as native UI elements, but it still blows your web page crap out of the water. Not all applications reduce so cleanly to a set of documents like you seem to think.
Email is text, images, and attachments. The interface that I use to access my email is a combination of interface elements. The web derives its simplicity and its 'run anywhere' status from its basis as a way to push text around. To open a new dialog, a web page needs to request a new text document, grab the necessary images, etc. A real application simply uses the facilities provided FOR THAT PURPOSE by the operating system. Using a facility provided to display text and the occasional image to do things that the native system could do better, is kinda dumb. Sure, there are all sorts of neat tricks you can use to make your web app look like it's a real app, but deep down you still have to wait for the real app on the server side to come up with a text file that your browser can turn back into interface element impersonations.
If you want cross-platform, try a real language that already does it. Java Swing, Perl/tK, etc, will give you the responsiveness and depth of real applications, but run on any enabled system.
So, I'm going to use a clunky piece of shit web app when I could be using a real binary, because there's this 1% of time that I need email from somewhere other than my own machines...
Allow me to propose an alternate theory: I'll use a real binary until the corporations decide that they don't Trust my machine to run them, and use web based applications only when I'm actually away from machines that can support a real application.
I think that the future for things like email and other applications that are pretty unique per user (as in, I get no use from your email client) is portable applications, like portable thunderbird. USB keys are becoming cheaper, faster, and support more ubiquitous. There's no need to deal with the slowness of a text dissemination system shoehorned to other duties when you really want an application that does something completely different.
If you're going to get embargoed, you WANT to be a net importing economy. If we relied on our exports to keep things going, and you stopped buying those exports, we'd have a problem. If you stop selling us stuff... poor us, jobs just got created, what will we ever do?
IDE RAID refers to the ability of the controller to use disks designed for use on an IDE bus as components of an array. No promise is made as to how the system addresses the controller.
USB drives are not driverless storage; they are simply a catagory of devices with similar enough characteristics that newer versions of most popular operating systems include a driver that supports them.
That said, a standardized RAID interface would greatly simplify its use; it probably won't happen anytime soon as IDE RAID is both young and built on a standard that is on its way out. SATA controllers with RAID support are becoming more standardized, however. Most chipset-integrated controllers seem to work pretty smoothly these days.
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I never understood protesting the RNC. Anyone who takes the time and expense to participate in or attend the event is so deeply convinced of the superiority of their party that nothing is going to move them. More productive would be to express your political opinion at events attended by more flexible individuals.
If you don't need the pretty pictures on the keys (ie, you know how to type...), the Anykey keyboard has had remappable and macro-programmable keys for years (mine says made in November 1991 on the back). You even get 12 extra function keys down the left hand side (where these guy's also put a block of keys). Best part: they eBay for like $5.
You've found the problem with layoffs: the decision isn't made by an impartial observer, it's made by the managers, the people LEAST likely to go after their own. You can't even trust a consultant to get it right, since the guy you hire is going to be an ex-manager, whose only direct contact with your company is through the managers.
See, if they were running Windows 98 they would never have lost the servers - they'd've had to walk over to reboot them every 47 days. That they would have gone insane trying to keep the database up is just the kind of side effect you hear at 100wpm at the end of a Pfizer commercial;)
While the GP is wrong to lump all of Africa's problems under a single heading, I think he does have a point with the trade argument: If you can't sell your agricultural products, how are you starving? Sounds like you've got more food than you need!
If you're running Linux, why would you buy a machine priced above the median, particularly when you have to purchase an operating system to go with it you'll never use? Also note that most of that inflated price goes into getting a machine with the little MacOSX DRM chip in it, rather than actually better parts (not to say that these boxes won't be made of rather better stuff than $299 Dells; just saying that the Mac moniker isn't worth as much when there's otherwise normal PC parts inside).
I could deal with Java having a gc, provided that it also had a way to manually dispose of an object. Watching 100MB of scratch space that was in use for 1s sit around eating memory for the next hour is not my idea of a good time...
Mod your x-box, put Linux or what-have-you on it: OK. Mod your x-box, put 80 pirated x-box games on it, and sell it: Not OK. Seriously, what did he *think* would happen? Even the most liberal interpretations of copyright prohibit making a bunch of copies of something and selling them at a profit...
Emergency workers driving to an actual emergency, announcing their presence with lights and sirens have cause to drive quickly. A police car on non-emergency business without it's lights or it's siren going has no business blowing down the left lane at 90.
Indeed. If your population is replenished only by cloning, its a good idea to run a quick fsck on the samples used for each generation, lest you accidently produce a generation of less than stellar genetic integrity.
The argument is that the 'public good' is served by the higher taxes paid by these new tenants, but really, I'm not seeing it. The point of taxes is that everyone puts some money in the pot to supply services they all need but aren't really practical to deploy commercially. If you're throwing people out on the street in the name of increasing the size of the pot, you've lost sight of the meaning of 'good'. In a developed area like New London, most of that common pot goes to the service and protection of the commercial businesses, not to the citizens (the 'public' everyone seems to be missing).
The supreme court does not interpret law. The supreme court interprets the consitution and determines if a law is valid within the bounds set in the consitution. In this case, there has been a decent case made that the law in new london (which is in ct, not nj, by the way) impedes on a citizen's freedom from unlawful seizure (they've done nothing wrong but are having their house taken, unless you consider not making enough money to kick you into the next tax bracket 'wrong').
It's often suggested that there be a dot key and a dash key, but isn't there a certain amount of ambiguity to morse code without pauses between characters? '...-' could be 'eu' or 'v', unless you specified. I suppose you could come up with an almost equally efficient but unambiguous language with a huffman tree and a decent amount of sample material, but that's not really Morse.
I think the presumed market is people who stop doing things that hurt, ie "hmm... the key over there makes my hand hurt. *move key*". Obviously there are large segments of the population who would note "hmm, this really hurts" and continue to do it anyway. It's the old story of the man who visits his doctor, "doc, it hurts when I bend my arm like this", and gets the reply, "hmm, interesting. I'd suggest you not bend your arm like that".
I never understood 'cure for death' type devices getting shot down. Like, your heart is going to stop and you will die, but we could perform $risky_medical_proceedure and there's a 10% chance you'd live. That's pretty lousy survival for say, cough drops, but not all that bad when faced with certainty of death.
Actually, Maxtor now has a single-drive 500GB solution. However, both a pair of 250GB disks or a 500GB disk will cost more than twice what this array cost the guy to build (including power, case, and controller). $0.50/GB is a pretty decent rate (though he did get some decent deals on some of the eBay parts)
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I agree that *content* is best delivered dynamically. Maps change, encyclopedias change. I don't agree that efficiency should not be the foremost goal. What is more critical than your application performing with as little an impact on your system as possible? If a web page isn't an efficient model for a task, a more efficient model should be implemented. An application that is web-based for the sake of being web-based is a failure to analyze the problem over the developer's own philosophy.
Since when do webapps map to clean pages? Need I link to Google Maps again to make that point? 5 years ago, I thought something like Google Maps was impossible over the web. But it's here today, and it's surprisingly good for what it is and its limitations. Once you get a few regions into cache, it's actually very snappy.
I think you miss my point. A web based app, due to the page-based nature of the model, has to be logically divided into pages. You send off an action, and if you need to do much more than rearrange things on the page, you need to get a new page. This model doesn't work terribly well for most things. In the end, you're going to wind up chaining what is for all intents and purposes a real app into the middle of a page to accomplish what you want to do.
As for Google Maps, while it is a really impressive page, you actually hit on exactly the problem: once you get it into cache, it's really snappy. Well, for a lot of applications, you can't cache as much static content as GM can. When, instead, you have a real application, you are generating the content in the most efficient internal form, rather than trying to turn it into a document model without regard for what that does to your efficiency.
Excuse me for taking so long to respond. Your joke about Java left me in stiches. Implying Java was any good. Comedic gold! Those never get boring! "Swing", "Responsive". Brilliant! Your humor works on so many levels! ... That was a joke, right? ... I mean, insults to Swing coming from someone advocating Javascript as the language of the future? Swing isn't nearly as good as native UI elements, but it still blows your web page crap out of the water. Not all applications reduce so cleanly to a set of documents like you seem to think.
I was actually hoping *that* was a joke
Email is text, images, and attachments. The interface that I use to access my email is a combination of interface elements. The web derives its simplicity and its 'run anywhere' status from its basis as a way to push text around. To open a new dialog, a web page needs to request a new text document, grab the necessary images, etc. A real application simply uses the facilities provided FOR THAT PURPOSE by the operating system. Using a facility provided to display text and the occasional image to do things that the native system could do better, is kinda dumb. Sure, there are all sorts of neat tricks you can use to make your web app look like it's a real app, but deep down you still have to wait for the real app on the server side to come up with a text file that your browser can turn back into interface element impersonations.
If you want cross-platform, try a real language that already does it. Java Swing, Perl/tK, etc, will give you the responsiveness and depth of real applications, but run on any enabled system.
So, I'm going to use a clunky piece of shit web app when I could be using a real binary, because there's this 1% of time that I need email from somewhere other than my own machines ...
Allow me to propose an alternate theory: I'll use a real binary until the corporations decide that they don't Trust my machine to run them, and use web based applications only when I'm actually away from machines that can support a real application.
I think that the future for things like email and other applications that are pretty unique per user (as in, I get no use from your email client) is portable applications, like portable thunderbird. USB keys are becoming cheaper, faster, and support more ubiquitous. There's no need to deal with the slowness of a text dissemination system shoehorned to other duties when you really want an application that does something completely different.
If you're going to get embargoed, you WANT to be a net importing economy. If we relied on our exports to keep things going, and you stopped buying those exports, we'd have a problem. If you stop selling us stuff ... poor us, jobs just got created, what will we ever do?
IDE RAID refers to the ability of the controller to use disks designed for use on an IDE bus as components of an array. No promise is made as to how the system addresses the controller.
USB drives are not driverless storage; they are simply a catagory of devices with similar enough characteristics that newer versions of most popular operating systems include a driver that supports them.
That said, a standardized RAID interface would greatly simplify its use; it probably won't happen anytime soon as IDE RAID is both young and built on a standard that is on its way out. SATA controllers with RAID support are becoming more standardized, however. Most chipset-integrated controllers seem to work pretty smoothly these days.
Hey man, not everyone can get first post ...
I never understood protesting the RNC. Anyone who takes the time and expense to participate in or attend the event is so deeply convinced of the superiority of their party that nothing is going to move them. More productive would be to express your political opinion at events attended by more flexible individuals.
If you don't need the pretty pictures on the keys (ie, you know how to type ...), the Anykey keyboard has had remappable and macro-programmable keys for years (mine says made in November 1991 on the back). You even get 12 extra function keys down the left hand side (where these guy's also put a block of keys). Best part: they eBay for like $5.
You've found the problem with layoffs: the decision isn't made by an impartial observer, it's made by the managers, the people LEAST likely to go after their own. You can't even trust a consultant to get it right, since the guy you hire is going to be an ex-manager, whose only direct contact with your company is through the managers.
See, if they were running Windows 98 they would never have lost the servers - they'd've had to walk over to reboot them every 47 days. That they would have gone insane trying to keep the database up is just the kind of side effect you hear at 100wpm at the end of a Pfizer commercial ;)
While the GP is wrong to lump all of Africa's problems under a single heading, I think he does have a point with the trade argument: If you can't sell your agricultural products, how are you starving? Sounds like you've got more food than you need!
If you're running Linux, why would you buy a machine priced above the median, particularly when you have to purchase an operating system to go with it you'll never use? Also note that most of that inflated price goes into getting a machine with the little MacOSX DRM chip in it, rather than actually better parts (not to say that these boxes won't be made of rather better stuff than $299 Dells; just saying that the Mac moniker isn't worth as much when there's otherwise normal PC parts inside).
I could deal with Java having a gc, provided that it also had a way to manually dispose of an object. Watching 100MB of scratch space that was in use for 1s sit around eating memory for the next hour is not my idea of a good time ...
Mod your x-box, put Linux or what-have-you on it: OK. Mod your x-box, put 80 pirated x-box games on it, and sell it: Not OK. Seriously, what did he *think* would happen? Even the most liberal interpretations of copyright prohibit making a bunch of copies of something and selling them at a profit ...
Emergency workers driving to an actual emergency, announcing their presence with lights and sirens have cause to drive quickly. A police car on non-emergency business without it's lights or it's siren going has no business blowing down the left lane at 90.
Indeed. If your population is replenished only by cloning, its a good idea to run a quick fsck on the samples used for each generation, lest you accidently produce a generation of less than stellar genetic integrity.
Still less dupes than Slashdot ...
The argument is that the 'public good' is served by the higher taxes paid by these new tenants, but really, I'm not seeing it. The point of taxes is that everyone puts some money in the pot to supply services they all need but aren't really practical to deploy commercially. If you're throwing people out on the street in the name of increasing the size of the pot, you've lost sight of the meaning of 'good'. In a developed area like New London, most of that common pot goes to the service and protection of the commercial businesses, not to the citizens (the 'public' everyone seems to be missing).
The supreme court does not interpret law. The supreme court interprets the consitution and determines if a law is valid within the bounds set in the consitution. In this case, there has been a decent case made that the law in new london (which is in ct, not nj, by the way) impedes on a citizen's freedom from unlawful seizure (they've done nothing wrong but are having their house taken, unless you consider not making enough money to kick you into the next tax bracket 'wrong').
It's often suggested that there be a dot key and a dash key, but isn't there a certain amount of ambiguity to morse code without pauses between characters? '...-' could be 'eu' or 'v', unless you specified. I suppose you could come up with an almost equally efficient but unambiguous language with a huffman tree and a decent amount of sample material, but that's not really Morse.
I think the presumed market is people who stop doing things that hurt, ie "hmm ... the key over there makes my hand hurt. *move key*". Obviously there are large segments of the population who would note "hmm, this really hurts" and continue to do it anyway. It's the old story of the man who visits his doctor, "doc, it hurts when I bend my arm like this", and gets the reply, "hmm, interesting. I'd suggest you not bend your arm like that".
I never understood 'cure for death' type devices getting shot down. Like, your heart is going to stop and you will die, but we could perform $risky_medical_proceedure and there's a 10% chance you'd live. That's pretty lousy survival for say, cough drops, but not all that bad when faced with certainty of death.
Actually, Maxtor now has a single-drive 500GB solution. However, both a pair of 250GB disks or a 500GB disk will cost more than twice what this array cost the guy to build (including power, case, and controller). $0.50/GB is a pretty decent rate (though he did get some decent deals on some of the eBay parts)