happened to me on my garmin two weeks ago on I-5 (a *major* N-S interstate on the west coast US). One would assume that there would be multiple vendors of the technology, so not all vehicles would be impacted. Also, I could easily see this going into the "can't override" territory of current rev limiters already on cars.
Finally, I never said the breaks would go on, but at freeway speeds losing your acceleration can cause a surprisingly rapid speed drop, especially if you are going uphill or in a not so aerodynamic vehicle.
I think the only organization that may be able to do this would be the NSA, then I also think that they wouldn't bother trying but for specific high value targets. I.e. they wouldn't buy a ton of decommissioned drives from the EU member countries and do a dragnet, but a single "wiped" hdd from Iran's nuke program? likely they would try.
That said, they are in the business of specifically *not* advertising their advanced capabilities, so doubtful we would hear of it till it was independently invented, likely outside US boarders. -nB
Yup. Been there too. we would have lost ~1 year's worth of validation data on Ethernet gear had I followed managements instructions. At least my instructions were from clueless management, and I wasn't reamed for ignoring their plans. Of course this same clueless management had me build a DR plan and then promptly refused to spend the money on any of the three tiers of recovery I developed (minimal, but allow the lab to be up and running in no more than 1 week should our existing lab burn to the ground, all the way up to the [obviously overkill] hot spare of teh entire lab sitting in a warehouse). The cheapest solution was a single pre-configured server in storage along with 5 workstations, and off-site replication of only the current active projects. Total cost $50K +$10K / year. they wouldn't even spend that. -nB
Enforced at my work. In addition we don't allow user's personal machines onto the VPN. Since it's a company notebook on the VPN and all traffic goes through the VPN, we also enforce the internal AUP on remote users using the VPN. That means downloading a game patch will get you a stern talking to, downloading porn or torrents of wares, etc. will get you fired. Again, this is all acceptable, because you are on company equipment (even if you are at home). If the case is that employees are being allowed to attach their personal equipment through the VPN to the company's internal network then I really hope you totally trust your employees, because one rogue could catastrophically hose you. -nB
True, but as to the right of health care I would posit that you do not have the right to health care, but you should have the right for it to be available to you. -nB
I disagree with your steak cooking methodology... It will lack the proper flavor required.
You sear the steak on the coal side of a two chamber BBQ, with the grate set 2" above the coals. Then you move the steak to the second chamber (no coals, just hot smoke) and cook for ~10 - 15 min.
I routinely get above my rated line speed from my ISP for down/up. Sadly since I am at the threshold for their DSL service it's 1024/512, but still, that I routinely pull 1060, I'll not bitch about it. They also have stunning customer support, no caps that I need worry about at my speed, and no overage charges even if you do exceed a cap. Per the CSR:
At your speed you will never hit the cap, even 24/7. If you move to where you can get 10/5 then you could hit the cap. If you did, the first time you would get a note on your bill informing you that the next time you exceed the cap you will be throttled to 5/2.5, then 2/1, then 1/.512 where you will stay till the next cycle. This throttling is in 1 gig blocks.
Basically this means if you exceed the cap of ~100 GB, then your connection will slow down. If you notice it and pause your torrents then the rest of your month should be fine for everything else. If you don't notice they'll slow you down till you do notice, but at no time are you cut below 1 meg down, and they don't charge overages. It's the most sane plan I've seen yet. Also off the record he requested I use uTorrent or another program with internal throttling and gave me times they would like to see reduced bandwidth consumption, which indecently would keep you from mathematically hitting the caps unless you really did fully saturate your downloads for the entire month. And as a coup he noted a website internal to the company that you could pull deb/ubuntu distros and packages from without bandwidth counting.
The big assed downside? Cost. My 1024/512 costs $45.00/month 10/5 costs $99/month if you live close enough to get it. Still, at least they are sane with their TOU and enforcement policies. -nB
I would disagree that the compiler disabling optimizations is anti-competitive. Simply put, if it is your CPU apply your optimizations, if it is not use the defaults. Frankly the CPU could be AMD, Via, OpenCore, Chinese knockoff, etc. not all of which support all the same optimizations. They can only control their CPU, that is what their compiler is market for, designed for, etc.
What if they left everything on and code compiled by the tool chain didn't load on a non Intel CPU? Even worse what if it caused a HCF instruction to execute on the non Intel CPU? Then what?
Electronics companies are notorious for implementing the same thing in different ways, not all of which are compatible. For example the first Gig ethernet parts from Broadcom were not specification compliant (in the 4DPAM5 decoder logic IIRC), but they went to market anyway. That mode of operation became known as "bonehead mode" and everyone else had to support it in their parts or risk losing Cisco and Nortel as customers for the first several generations of parts.
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It's the IRS.
Never fuck with the treasury or secret service.
and with any sanity a gradual reduction in power if you persist
you do remember this is a government initiative we're discussing right?
happened to me on my garmin two weeks ago on I-5 (a *major* N-S interstate on the west coast US).
One would assume that there would be multiple vendors of the technology, so not all vehicles would be impacted. Also, I could easily see this going into the "can't override" territory of current rev limiters already on cars.
Finally, I never said the breaks would go on, but at freeway speeds losing your acceleration can cause a surprisingly rapid speed drop, especially if you are going uphill or in a not so aerodynamic vehicle.
specifically what if I'm on the freeway and the GPS thinks I'm on the frontage road? I'll drop ~50% speed right there.
-nB
they can still surf the net through the VPN, but since they are on a company network they have to abide by the corp AUP. there is no problem there.
should have shot him.
it would have been legal to do so.
-nB
I think the only organization that may be able to do this would be the NSA, then I also think that they wouldn't bother trying but for specific high value targets. I.e. they wouldn't buy a ton of decommissioned drives from the EU member countries and do a dragnet, but a single "wiped" hdd from Iran's nuke program? likely they would try.
That said, they are in the business of specifically *not* advertising their advanced capabilities, so doubtful we would hear of it till it was independently invented, likely outside US boarders.
-nB
Yup.
Been there too.
we would have lost ~1 year's worth of validation data on Ethernet gear had I followed managements instructions. At least my instructions were from clueless management, and I wasn't reamed for ignoring their plans.
Of course this same clueless management had me build a DR plan and then promptly refused to spend the money on any of the three tiers of recovery I developed (minimal, but allow the lab to be up and running in no more than 1 week should our existing lab burn to the ground, all the way up to the [obviously overkill] hot spare of teh entire lab sitting in a warehouse). The cheapest solution was a single pre-configured server in storage along with 5 workstations, and off-site replication of only the current active projects. Total cost $50K +$10K / year. they wouldn't even spend that.
-nB
no you mean 64.
it's just that your arbitrary reference for 0 is what others call +1.
Cheers,
-nB
Enforced at my work. In addition we don't allow user's personal machines onto the VPN. Since it's a company notebook on the VPN and all traffic goes through the VPN, we also enforce the internal AUP on remote users using the VPN. That means downloading a game patch will get you a stern talking to, downloading porn or torrents of wares, etc. will get you fired.
Again, this is all acceptable, because you are on company equipment (even if you are at home). If the case is that employees are being allowed to attach their personal equipment through the VPN to the company's internal network then I really hope you totally trust your employees, because one rogue could catastrophically hose you.
-nB
True, but as to the right of health care I would posit that you do not have the right to health care, but you should have the right for it to be available to you.
-nB
I disagree with your steak cooking methodology...
It will lack the proper flavor required.
You sear the steak on the coal side of a two chamber BBQ, with the grate set 2" above the coals. Then you move the steak to the second chamber (no coals, just hot smoke) and cook for ~10 - 15 min.
perfection.
Other than that, I am impressed.
damn.
I think my brain hurts after that...
sig'd
What if they offered "enhancement packs" for a price?
To be fair the previous discussion talked about "clean" water, as in piped in.
/pedantic
Ocean water is not free for anything but cooling, and even then has corrosion/electrolytic issues.
I routinely get above my rated line speed from my ISP for down/up. Sadly since I am at the threshold for their DSL service it's 1024/512, but still, that I routinely pull 1060, I'll not bitch about it. They also have stunning customer support, no caps that I need worry about at my speed, and no overage charges even if you do exceed a cap.
Per the CSR:
At your speed you will never hit the cap, even 24/7. If you move to where you can get 10/5 then you could hit the cap. If you did, the first time you would get a note on your bill informing you that the next time you exceed the cap you will be throttled to 5/2.5, then 2/1, then 1/.512 where you will stay till the next cycle. This throttling is in 1 gig blocks.
Basically this means if you exceed the cap of ~100 GB, then your connection will slow down. If you notice it and pause your torrents then the rest of your month should be fine for everything else. If you don't notice they'll slow you down till you do notice, but at no time are you cut below 1 meg down, and they don't charge overages. It's the most sane plan I've seen yet. Also off the record he requested I use uTorrent or another program with internal throttling and gave me times they would like to see reduced bandwidth consumption, which indecently would keep you from mathematically hitting the caps unless you really did fully saturate your downloads for the entire month. And as a coup he noted a website internal to the company that you could pull deb/ubuntu distros and packages from without bandwidth counting.
The big assed downside? Cost. My 1024/512 costs $45.00/month 10/5 costs $99/month if you live close enough to get it. Still, at least they are sane with their TOU and enforcement policies.
-nB
I would disagree that the compiler disabling optimizations is anti-competitive.
Simply put, if it is your CPU apply your optimizations, if it is not use the defaults. Frankly the CPU could be AMD, Via, OpenCore, Chinese knockoff, etc. not all of which support all the same optimizations. They can only control their CPU, that is what their compiler is market for, designed for, etc.
What if they left everything on and code compiled by the tool chain didn't load on a non Intel CPU? Even worse what if it caused a HCF instruction to execute on the non Intel CPU? Then what?
Electronics companies are notorious for implementing the same thing in different ways, not all of which are compatible. For example the first Gig ethernet parts from Broadcom were not specification compliant (in the 4DPAM5 decoder logic IIRC), but they went to market anyway. That mode of operation became known as "bonehead mode" and everyone else had to support it in their parts or risk losing Cisco and Nortel as customers for the first several generations of parts.
-nB
touche
apparently you missed the memo about our country being a representative republic, not a democracy.
Our representatives do, in fact, work for us and can be fired (recall election / impeachment).
-nB
you know, it's kind of funny.
I hate greepeace, but I hate monsanto even more...
I feel rather conflicted about it.
is that heresy or blasphemy?
I'm sure it was one or the other...
Funny though.
um...
I missed the memo about the secret organization. I just shaved my beard off yesterday.
I'll commence growing it back immediately.
On a separate note, my co-workers indicated that my creepy/scary factor just went up several points upon shaving my face clean...
but at least they prevent global warming...