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Cablevision To Offer 101 Mbps Down, No Caps
nandemoari alerts us to news over at DSLReports that Cablevision will be offering subscribers 101-Mbps download service, a new US record. That's fast enough to download an HD movie in less than 10 minutes. The package, known as "Ultra," will launch on May 11 and will cost $99.95 a month. Upload speed is 15 Mbps and there are no monthly limits. Cablevision is also doubling the speed of its Wi-Fi service, which is available free to subscribers using hotspots across the Northeast. "...the company will be launching a new 'Ultra' tier on May 11. The new tier features speeds of 101Mbps downstream and 15Mbps upstream for $99.95 a month. That's an unprecedented amount of speed at an unprecedented price, suggesting that Cablevision just took the gloves off in their fight against Verizon FiOS. ... Cablevision spokesman Jim Maiella confirmed for me that the $99.95 price is unbundled, and the new tier does not come with any kind of a usage cap or overage fees."
Now I need to find a town with Cablevision service to move to...
Every time I start to have faith in humanity, I ruin it by driving to work between 7 and 8 am.
I smell RIAA/MPAA, could it be?
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I wish we had this kind of speed in Canada. I guess it's not so much the speed as the bandwidth caps. What the hell are we supposed to do with a 20 GB download limit?
Somehow Canada missed the boat with Unlimited download/upload.
So in 2009 the US finally gets some decent speeds with no caps. My provider in Romania in 2005, four years ago and in a much less developed country, offered speeds sufficient to download a film in about 10 minutes (there was no HD then, but we were happy) for all of 15 euro a month. They also set up a DC++ server for the town where everyone could share films and music with their neighbours. I suspect this offer from Cablevision won't last long, and $99 is ridiculously overpriced for something that ought to be nearly free like air and water.
Traffic shaping! It's fine if they do or don't do it, but will companies PLEASE start being up-front about it? Put as much spin on the damn thing as you want, just at least mention it if you're doing it.
Stuff.
They still don't offer NFL Network so, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!
Either they're really going to regret promising that, or they're hiding some dirty little secret...
We've had that speed at major universities and in Japan for years now.
What slackers ...
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Don't get ready to move across the country for this service just yet. This is just the beginning. DOCSIS 3.0 is the new standard that supports bonding together traditional cable modem channels to support these kinds of speeds, and the equipment that supports it is currently in late development stages and is being tested by all of the major cable operators. You are going to see a lot more announcements like this one over the next few years, possibly in your area.
So how long until Timer Warner comes and tries to seek more legislation since they refuse to complete, or will not compete?
I think we are starting to see the little guys starting to move into the limelight, and the big boys will use bureaucracy to manage their inabilities to compete. Maybe a breakthrough will be made. Lets cross our fingers!
(As always...) there you go, fixed that for you.
Please don't use "umm" or "err" or "erm".
I bet they're feeling real good about themselves right now. *snickers*
1) Traffic shaping, as suggested by others
2) Good prior planning - maybe they know who their high-end customers are and have the infrastructure in place
3) Untargeted throttling - if your neighborhood gets saturated, everyone gets throttled to the same temporary maximum bandwidth until demand goes down
4) Targeted throttling - throttle certain users based on what or how much they are downloading or other factors
5) Eat the financial loss needed to rapidly upgrade neighborhoods as they overpower their existing tubes
6) Start off really uncapped but change their minds after a few weeks or months and institute some form of limits to keep #5 from sending them into bankruptcy.
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... not so great for seeders.
What does this mean to the average home user who purchases the high speed service; unaware that when they bought their new PC they chose the cheaper option for their NIC card - which then becomes the slowest component on their network - wasting both money and speed?
sudo apt-get lost
The last Cablevision subscriber I saw was a friend who had a Windows machine plugged in directly into the small cable modem, with a world-routable IP address. The machine was idle and the modem was blinking constantly during the whole time I was there, without any one logged it. Needless to say, my friend complained his machine was "starting to get slow". Translation: the machine was pwnd.
I shudder at the thought of having botnets take hold of vulneratble machines sitting on 100 Mbit/s pipes.
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We've already had this discussion. A company improving their service or product offerings by impetus of competition is a fiction. If the government doesn't force them, subsidize it or directly provide it, it won't happen. Period, the end.
You may now commence sticking your fingers in your ears and going "LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA" until Congress or some other branch of government takes credit for this.
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HD movie in less than 10 minutes?? That isn't a true statement. 10 minutes at 101 Mbps is only 7.5 gigs, which is the size of a DVD. Blue Ray (HD) is many times that size. 101 Mbps / 8 = 12.625 megs / sec. This times 600 seconds (10 minutes) is only 7575 MB (or 7.5 GB)
I know Verizon is exempt from any and all cases of domestic spying (which has kept me away from fIoS)
Does anybody know Cablevision's deal with Congress?
OK, so they double-bond cable modems, giving you twice the usual speed to your desktop. Then you get on the same clogged, shared network as the rest of your neighborhood, and hope they have enough bandwidth upstream to handle the potential doubling of clients (from double-bonding). In a dense residential area (urban apartment buildings for example), I have never seen a cable company actually be able to back up their claims of speed, upload or download.
To me, this sounds as bogus as the dual-bond 56K modems where you had to buy two phone-lines just for data, and then you would want one for voice, and heck maybe even a fourth for FAX.
What's next, a seven-bladed razor?
What's new there ?
Don't want to sound like a US basher, but I subscribed 3 years ago for my 100 mbits down / 5 up + tv + phone cable connection, all of this for about 30 / month here in France ...
Are you guys so far behind ??
We have 100 Mbps (up&down) and it costs 10 USD per month! (no caps) Americans are soo behind.
How are you going to stay at the forefront of development with that kind of infrastructure?
Now all we need is for Cablevision to drop the price by one order of magnitude. Then we can be competitive with South Korea!
Oh, and for all of you in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut, I hate you. I hate you from the depths of the Charter service area, in the midwest. Bastards.
Just because CV is upping the bandwidth does not promise a faster connection. My current connection through them has latency anywhere from 30ms to 1sec depending on many factors.
A hundred bucks a month for internet service is insane. For that kind of money a customer service rep should come over every other week and give me a blow job.
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i'm not sure i can handle no caps. i've been typing using caps ever since i started typing. plus, that 101mbps isn't as significant when you remove 1/8th of the bits. what is that, like 77mbps? psssh. plus it'll make slashdot look like it's being written by 13yr-olds.... err... it isn't, right?
I have heard rumors that Verizon was bumping up their speeds (including that of their base package). I can't wait to see what their response to this Optimum offer looks like.
Then you want Baseball.
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I'll have to upgrade to gigabit ethernet to get that last megabit out of it :)
Cablevision also appears to have installed an ISP caching system they market as "expresslink":
http://www.optimum.com/online/expresslink.jsp
So far, I have not noticed any ill effects of this, but it doesn't appear to be something you can opt-out of. So, even though you have a 100 mbps pipe, you may not be pulling content directly from the originating web site.
Something to keep in mind when deciding to become a Cablevision customer.
-ted
Yeah, but with that kind of pipe(huh, huh), the HD porn streaming(huh, huh) from your PC will almost feel that real...
I don't have any hard data for you, but I recently moved from Yonkers, NY to Brooklyn, NY and had to give up Cablevision for Time Warner.
With Cablevision, I could regularly pull down 5-7 MBytes/sec down and had at least 250 Kbytes/sec up. It was paradise!
Of course, now that I have time warner, my max upstream is a whopping 60 Kbytes/sec, and my downstream never goes above 1 Mbyte/sec.
Granted, Yonkers is only about a tenth of the size of Brooklyn population-wise, but everyone else I knew in Westchester county (about half the size of Brooklyn) got similar speeds from Cablevision.
I doubt that CV customers will see a true 100 mbit connection, but my experiences in a densely populated area lead me to believe they will get fairly close to delivering on this promise...
have you been seen on slash?
I use Shaw here in Canada and I get 100 GB for my $40 each month. I've yet to hit the cap and I'm um... download a lot of open source software... yeah. That's what I'm doing...
...in Portugal we already have two triple-play service providers offering 100Mbits download using fiber-to-home, although still not available everywhere.
The prices are quite reasonable (at least comparing to Cablevision's $99.99).
64.99 euros (around $85) for 100 channels, 100Mbps/10Mbps and phone.
I'm currently paying $80.00 per month for a damn 1mb connection. Unfortunately, I live in the country, so I need special equipment (some micro-wave broadband or something.) Still, the only reason they can get away with it is because they're the only broadband providers in the area. I've heard of some locations that have the same service for half the cost -- but they actually have local competition. If that's any indicator, this sort of service will drop in price, too, once more providers start offering these speeds.
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Okay! You've got a deal. Just let me know which day you want him to come over.
mmmm 101mbps yum and without caps...double yum
$100 is a large expense. I think this will keep the number of total users down. In turn, this may allow the people who purchase this service to maintain these 101 mbps download rates. The less bandwidth eaten from others the better for individual users.
Cablevision services metro New York.
4.7 million residential customers. 600,000 businesses.
No where else in the U.S. - no where else in the Western Hemisphere - will you find so tightly compacted and rich a market.
Cablevision owns Madison Square Garden, Radio City Music Hall, the Ziegfield Theater and other legendary houses.
Cablevision owns MSG, MSG Plus, Fuse, American Movie Classics, The Independent Film Channel, The Sundance Channel and We.tv.
Cablevision owns Long Island's "Newsday."
Cablevision
I pay $89.95 now for 1.5/512 here on the East Coast in CT, and that's the best deal there is, a few miles from the CO. There's no other game in town :(
If you know a place where I can get faster speeds for less (or the same!), sign me up!
there are no monthly limits
How long before Cablevision changes the definition of the word "no" as other providers have changed the definition of "unlimited" in the past?
I care more about getting 10Mb for $40/mo. There is no way I'm forking over $1200/year for internet. I have no use for that kind of bandwidth, way overkill for me, and I'd imagine most people.
Nor are they trying to really compete with anyone. There's been a lot of public backlash against American internet service, if you can call it that. And that's what they're trying to mitigate, along with a possible demand for regulation. The caps are there. It's just that nobody but Cablevision knows what they are.
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When I had them 3 years ago, they were blocking incoming port 80 and 25, do they still do that? It was incredibly annoying.
That's stupid. Capital letters take no longer to transmit than lower-case ones.
NYC, New Jersey, also parts of Connecticut too... that's where they covered (in part, I think parts of PA are covered too, but it's been a while)...
Hey - I used to work for them (was told "anytime you're back in NYC, your job's waiting for you: Come back, anytime..." - when I solved a problem they & Compaq had)
(I.E.-> Compaq was blaming cablevision for their routers, most compatible kind I ever saw in fact, in Motorola "surfboard" units iirc, from back in 2003 when I worked for they that year - I did the research after my boss directed me to do so, & in the particular model of COMPAQ/HP system involved (it was only 1 in fact, rest worked)? They were way, Way, WAY "over-aggressively" configuring the NIC, & once I 'stepped that down'? Those customers were working FINE again, & it got COMPAQ/HP off our backs... proving THEM, wrong!)
Thus, I have NOTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT THEIR COMPANY! They gave ME 'freedom of movement' to solve problems, for 1 thing...
(I can't say the same for other spots I have worked for... & that, as I am sure others in this field can also say? Is sometimes, a rarity)...
Yes - CableVision's a decent company with GREAT customer service (Well, THIS part admittedly, CAN vary & especially @ Level I support based on the tech's skills, & most really "hi-powered talent" gets placed higher than that most times, if not eventually going to NOC) and, F A S T connections (when 2-3mb/sec. was say, Time Warner speed max? CableVision was hitting 6mbps std. for ordinary home user customers).
No, I don't work for they anymore, but, I could IF I were in their geographically locked coverage areas... &, I would. I was going to be pulled into higher better paying position too, but, money was getting 'tight' during the wait (NYC housing costs a MINT) & my boss could only move so fast on it, or, so he told me &, yes, I believed him (actually a good boss, Hi Tim)... In the end, in any event, "family problems" drew me back to where I originated from, & pretty fast (personal stuff, can't get 'into it') too, so had to leave...
(AND, once more? Truly, I have nothing BAD to say about them (which is MORE than I can say for many a company I have worked for in the past 20++ yrs. I have around this art & science/field by now @ this point (16++ yrs. as a pro, the last 16, & a few years on midranges + mainframes in the 1980's before it, & I 'took a break', until I saw GUI computing & said "time to get back into it, that's ART & SCIENCE NOW, in 1 box"...))).
APK
P.S.=> They do a GREAT job - &, if you see this (the VP I know will know what & who I mean):
"Hi Leon"
(He's a pretty damned brilliant pal of mine whom I met in academia in the very early 1990's while grabbing STRICT coursework towards a 2nd degree around this field on my part, in straight comp. sci. & this guy? He IS exceptional!)...
He is now a VP there, & IS A SUPERIOR COMPUTER SCIENTIST as well as a good mgt. person too, & doing great (Won an EMMY no less for some pretty heavy tech work involving Scientific Atlanta boxes - and, I'd strongly wager HE & his colleagues are a large part of this latest/greatest from they, alongside their NOC team - great boss, because when his coders/software engineers were 'stuck' on tough issues? He's the kind of leader, that in SECONDS, will come up with a valid, working, SMART solution (everytime))
NOW, I want you readers to realize something: I said all that above, because it takes REAL PROS in mgt. too, that have "risen thru the ranks/trenches", & NOT just MBA bearing fakes we're all 'burdened' with, to make a company, great, & from what I've seen in their mgt. largely? THEY HAVE THAT... competent, saavy, & smart leaders!
That makes a HUGE difference...
(Especially in this field, & others of HIGHLY technical nature - because I'm sure others in this field, especially in the "trenches", will agr
Now if they offered this in the SF Bay area and had static IPs I'd get it.
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Okay,
I admit I'm as interested as the next guy in having the fastest connection as the next guy, but there is another piece to the equation that most people seem to care less about.
How much does it cost the end user.
I'm recently tired of being dealing with TWC and am axing Cable and Internet from them. Just the internet piece cost ~$50 a month for 10Mb/350Kb connection.
For $30 I'm replacing it DSL from Verizon for a 3Mb/750Kb connection (that has been much more reliable in the short time I've had it).
Yeah, things take a little longer to download, but I've noticed fewer sudden drops in speed (things have been more consistent), and how fast do we really need?
100 Mb down seems great, but the $100 a month equals $1200 a year (plus taxes and fees). Compared to the DSL package I'm getting thats over $800 a year extra that you could spend on things like food, rent, movies, video games, etc. How much of that pipe are you actually going to use, and how much do you need to use before you feel like you've justified blowing that money on the connection?
I know if the offer it for $40 you'll have lots of takers and blow your over-subscribe model out of the water, but there must be some middle ground.
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And thus bittorrent was born. If the cable companies would embrace rather than fight the technology, the "local node" could offload much of the problem.
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Cablevision has always had the best broadband service in the USA. However, don't get that excited about this, $100 a month is not pocket change.
No change for NYC (At lease where you'd want to live...)
You're still stuck with Time Warner for cable.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doitt/images/charts/franchise_territories.jpg
You realize nobody actually bothers to read your posts? I don't know what it is, some combination of random bold text and tiny paragraphs makes it too annoying to get through...
How can they claim to fulfill 101mbps download when cable modems only have 100mbit ethernet connectors?
Are there sources out there that could actually provide 100Mb of bandwidth?
It's the cost of managing congestion.
If the neighborhood is provisioned to handle 20% of theoretical instantaneous maximum demand before degrading, by definition it will start to degrade when instantaneous maximum demand is hit.
The only reasonable ways to keep your customers happy all the time is either
1) Make sure your neighborhoods are provisioned above actual peak demand
2) Give up and realize you can't keep your customers happy all the time
A healthy pricing model is one that invests enough $ in each neighborhood node to keep above peak demand without spending a whole lot of extra money.
You get caught with your pants down if you budget for a particular demand level, then due to some unforseen circumstance your peak demand in that neighborhood exceeds it.
If the technology exists that you can greatly exceed your projected demand level without spending a lot of money, great. However, if the cost of providing more TB/sec to the neighborhood is huge, it will happen incrementally rather than all at once, and the likelihood of the bandwidth-provider getting caught with its pants down jumps.
Here's a hypothetical, with completely made up numbers:
Let's say a neighborhood has 100 homes and 40 customers. Let's say your usage patterns project an average of 1TB/month next month and 2TB/month a year from now over those 100 homes, with a roughly linear increase. Let's say you've already provisioned your neighborhood node to handle 5TB/month and you'll be upgrading that to 50TB/month by next year. You were going to only do 10TB by next year to cover your existing customers' increased demand but the city approved a luxury condo complex to go up 18 months from now and there are some more complexes in the planning stages and you want to be prepared.
Now let's say 3 months from now the housing market turns around, apt. occupancy rates go up, your primary competitor suffers financial difficulty and its customers flee to you, and thanks to the improving economy, that condo complex gets built early and is occupied early, all by March of next year. You now have 90 of the original homes plus another 50 high-dollar condo households.
If you don't accelerate your improvements, instead of the projected 20TB peak demand that's easily met by a 50TB pipe, you'll have something approaching a 50TB peak demand, maybe more. You risk getting caught with your pants down, if only at peak times. Most people won't notice a 5-10% drop in bandwidth or they'll blame it on "The Internet" but some will, and those some will go to the press or blog about it. Of course, if your network engineers are smart they will use the extra money from all those new customers to split the network or otherwise add capacity.
The bottom line:
As demand goes up, you have to pay money to increase capacity. Sure, the DOCSIS 3.0 jump is relatively cheap, but the jumps after that are not necessarily cheap. They may involve splitting a neighborhood, which means buying another set of equipment and spending money on labor. If this money comes from new customers, as in the example above, that's great. If instead, your customer base changes from low- and medium-volume customers to a neighborhood of people who all sit down and watch online videos at 7PM every night, then you will either have to raise prices for them, take a loss, or have your other customers subsidize them so you can pay for the necessary improvements to the infrastructure. TANSTAAFL.
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You must realize that you do not speak for everyone here you dyslexic mental defective. It's no one's fault your dull and damaged brain is adversely affected by your natural stupidity and defective brain, and that you need 1st grade remedial reading level retraining for reading properly on your part. You obviously also lack technical prowess and proficiency in this field and on this topic because of your stupid reply here to which I am responding to. Why don't you try to contribute meaningful data on the topic at hand instead, you off topic anonymous luser post? You can't because you're stupid and you know it. All you have is your garbage off topic replies.
If customers go out of their way to buy only uncapped service, the ISPs will get the message. Not everyone gets this choice, unfortunately. However, the disappearing caps might become the benchmark by which the FCC determines which markets have suitable competition and which do not.
Sounds like this is 80% hype, 20% value.
80% Hype----
As a member of the networking field, the entire Internet is fundamentally a shared medium. The chances you will actually notice "101Mbps" of performance to anywhere is quite slim, especially since you have contention for resources with your local network.
I'm currently sitting on an 800Mbps pipe (tier 2) to the Internet, but my response times and throughput aren't really that much better from my 30Down/2Up connection at home. The real power behind any large pipe is the ability to serve many users to many different sites concurrently. A single connection (or small set of connections) to any one site generally won't peak above 8 to 10 Mbps of throughput. Are there exceptions? OF COURSE! If my netflix server is sitting on a speedy pipe, and their uplink isn't maxed out, and their ISP's peering point is maxed out, and my local neighborhood uplink isnt maxed out, and the stars are in alignment, I may actually see the 20Mbps throughput.
Other than this scenario, we are just looking at hype.
20% Value
With the advent of this product, upload speeds are also increased. This gives home users the true ability for things like remote IPDVS, multigeographic data replication (think replicating your buddies files to your house and vice versa), or easier backup scenarios like EMC's Mozy. Worried about losing your data in a fire? Subscribe to an online backup and keep Gigs backed up at all times! This is where the upload speeds really show value.
On another note as one poster noted, this has scary implications for botnets, empowering the owners of these zombies to attack alot more sites concurrently than ever before...
What a huge discrepancy there is between the sweet spots and rural areas. At least I have DSL now. Dial-up speeds over our crap phone line were often 9.6kbps. It was like 1991 all over again.
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We complain about it because people in other countries are getting far higher internet speeds for the money we currently pay for much lower internet speeds.
It's like complaining about the price of a Cadillac or Viper, and then finding out in Europe they can buy them for the price of a Honda.
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suck it Europe!
...I have a 100/100 Mbps connection with no limits at a monthly cost of $21/month. That includes up to 1 GB of complementary web hosting (albeit with a crappy url) and some other small goodies. Seeing costs the like of ~$100/month just makes me laugh, really, since us Swedes paid about $25 for 100/100 Mbps connections ten years ago.
I have been using their 30/5mbit tier, and I get full speeds pretty much 100% of the time. Time to update that budget! :D
Too bad most ethernet infrastructure is only 100mbit
There's one important thing that I can't seem to dig up in any of the press releases or blog entries about this: What is the committed information rate? This is the rate that they have to provide service at before they break their SLA to you. We're all familiar with the "up to 101 Mbps" marketing. Without a CIR, this is the same as saying that this lottery ticket is worth $100M*.
I loved my Cablevision data service here in NJ (the TV quality was bad). They sold me 30Mbps/5 Mbps and I could consistently get 15-20 Mbps service, for about $50-60 month with taxes and fees. This blew away my previous experience with Time Warner and Comcast. However, one time (in 2 years) it dropped for a few hours down to ~1-2Mbps and I called to complain. They said they were having issues and were going to have the problem reserved shortly. I asked for a (partial) refund for the month. The representative highlighted my contract that shows I was only entitled to ~512Kbps (if memory serves). I wasn't allowed to complain unless my service went below 512K! On a 30Mbps "connection"!
I will say that Cablevision does a very good job with their network, from the end user perspective. However, if they start dolling out 101Mbps without upgrading the backbone links, it will be hard to get 101Mbps anywhere.
*fine print: up to $100M
Disagreeing with me does not mean you get to mod me troll.
I can't get cable or DSL where I am, I'm 1/3 of a mile from the nearest cable box and still can't get comcast to extend the line to our neighborhood!
How about settling on 3Mb/s to all of us instead of 100Mb/s to some and 56Kb/s to the rest of us?
How did the UK force BT to offer these services to everyone and the US can't be bothered?
untill they cap your "unlimited" connection to 10% of it's speed over and over with no warning or explanation. After a few rounds of that I switched to Verizon FIOS and actually got the bandwidth I pay for.
Good to know Cablevision's new plan would make a good alternative in case Verizon starts pulling the same stunts.
that price will get me 512kbps down from 7PM-7AM, lowered to 128 during the daytime. Uploads are, I believe, 1/4 the download speed. And that is a significant price drop from what it was a year ago.
It's the only fair way to deal with companies that tier and oversubscribe to hell.
And if someone winds up congested because the upstream is clogged, metering will prevent him from paying the same for less service.
You can really make out her track marks now! Ah-sweet!!
If they're doubling WiFi from 1.5Mbs to 3.0Mbs then they're clearly, and severely, limiting it. Twice nothing is still nothing, and while this is something it is definitely a choked something.
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http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1214827&cid=27751445 your intellect was staggering there sonicdouche (not). See subject-line, drink it in & digest it, and lather, rinse, repeat. Thank you. Oh and while you're at it? Try to stay on topic, please (and grow up also).
Steep price for a connection that has been available in the EU (at least here in scandinavia) for quite some time now :P
99.99 per month is quite a bit. On the other hand, you get a lot for your 99.99. I'm paying just slightly more than 1/3 that, for 3 Mbps down, 1.5 Mbps up. At their rate, I should be getting 33 Mbps down, and 5 Mbps up. They are offering a lot for the money. I wonder if they have infrastructure to handle it all though.
Haha! Welcome to the internet!
Greetings from your friendly 100/100 15bucks a month Sweden ;)
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Even if you get a Fiber last mile to your house or apartment if that Fiber is owned by the telcos without government forced deregulation as they had in Japan, you will still be stuck with the same BS scarcity myths and tiered pricing and bandwidth caps and deep packet inspection and without net neutrality. You will NOT BE FREE and will have less than what you should, less than what your tax dollars already should have bought you!
The only viable solution is complete forced government deregulation as they have had in Japan in 2000.
OR
A new independent of the current American telcos company that owns its own fibers, owns its own data centers, owns its own deep sea cables to other continents so that they will NOT be forced by the current monopoly / duopoly American Telcos to artificially limit their service to consumers. (Note: to be independent the company must have its own connections overseas and NOT be dependent on any of the current telcos in any country where deregulation has not already occurred.. They must be independent of peering agreements and artificial constraints meant to ONLY to control them and hurt you.)
When you have fiber to your door and have either 100MB/100MB for $55 per month or 1GB / 1GB is expected to be less than $52.00 per month or 1 TB / 1 TB for less than $45 per month; no caps (they are NOT necessary); no censorship (Deep Packet Inspection as it is NOT necessary); no throttling of service (as it is NOT necessary);
than and only than will you be secure in yours and your families future internet access. You can do without cable TV, but you can NOT do without the Internet today.
History has shown us how the telcos operate and it is NOT good for consumers. Accept that without intervention they have no incentive to change their customer-no-service business practices.
Some of the facts as we know them today, 2009, are:
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This can only help competition. I have FiOS at 20Mbps/20Mbps (up/down). Perhaps Verizon will follow suit and starting boosting or offering higher speed services.
The idiocy of "sonicdouche" knows no bounds.
i think i would find it annoying if i'm not allowed to use caps any more. does that mean they can remotely access my caps lock?
suddenly it's no longer such a bargain...
The complaint is not that there is tiered service and pricing.
The complaint is that in South Korea you can get 70/20 mbit connections for $30, while here in Huntsville, Alabama, a 8/640K connection costs $60.
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Getting 100mbps here in Sweden for $35/month
So let me guess... you were stuck in Level I support, but you were one of the "hi-powered" talents there? amirite?
You believed that line of bullshit? Every manager tells every employee that. "We want to promote you, but our hands, they're just tied!"
If you wrote for Cablevision like you do here on Slashdot, it's not doubt that you were a Level I support drone with marginal skills and no discernible talent who has invented all of these accolades out of your deep need to be loved.
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1214827&cid=27751445 whoever modded me down "-1 flaimbait", is a serious moron. See who started what, in that url (which was the parent to mine you modded down). Who do you think you're fooling?? Not I, nor anyone else that sees what was said to myself, first.
sonicmerlin - YOUR FIRST quite pathetically calling me gay, here ->
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1214827&cid=27751445
YOU, sonicmerlin, started it off and should have been modded down "-1 flaimbait" instead?
Then, obviously you later modded me down "-1 flaimbait" here, sonicmerlin ->
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1214827&cid=27752457
and additionally you, sonicmerlin, modded me down again, here ->
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1214827&cid=27755183
Man...
(Sonicmerlin, Who do you think you're fooling??)
Not anyone that can read, & sees what was said to myself, first (in YOUR pathetically calling me "gay" here & your post should have been modded down, not mine!).
I'm certain it was you, as a "registered user", & you modded me down here because it's all you had & you did start up the name calling & "gay" insinuations (don't bother denying it, the URL & your own words there above proves otherwise)
APK
P.S.=> Anyone who can read can easily see who started what & how with the flaimbait name tossing (you sonicmerlin), in that url I posted above (which was the parent to mine you modded down)... apk
"If you wrote for Cablevision like you do here on Slashdot, it's not doubt that you were a Level I support drone" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30, @09:20AM (#27771661)
I wouldn't critique others' writing were I you, especially with the bolded error you wrote above... the correct phrasing would be this:
"it's no doubt that you were a"
So please: 'Practice what you preach'.
APK
P.S.=> Another wannabe tech critiquing others' writing, & screwing up himself no less, hilarious! apk
"You realize nobody actually bothers to read your posts? I don't know what it is, some combination of random bold text and tiny paragraphs makes it too annoying to get through.." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28, @03:26PM (#27749475)
This ought to "shut you up", pretty fast (it's all the posts I have had modded up here, as an "A/C" no less):
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+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170545&cid=14210206 [slashdot.org]
http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175774&cid=14610147 [slashdot.org]
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26975021 [slashdot.org]
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26974507 [slashdot.org]
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+4 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=13531817 [slashdot.org]
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167071&cid=13931198 [slashdot.org]
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+3 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155172&cid=13007974 [slashdot.org]
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=166850&cid=13914137 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175857&cid=14615222 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=273931&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=20291847 [slashdot.org]
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1021873&cid=25681261 [slashdot.org]
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+2 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158231&cid=13257227 [slashdot.org]
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158310&cid=13263898 [slashdot.org]
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158231&cid=13257227 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=290711&cid=20506147 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=245971&cid=19760473 [slashdot.org]
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416702&cid=22026982 [slashdot.org]
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174759&cid=14538593 [slashdot.org]
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=233779&cid=19020329 [slashdot.org]
http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=970939&cid=25093275 [slashdot.org]
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=978035&cid=251