Not possible. A shareholder cannot be held financially responsible for the actions of the company they own stock in. The only thing they can stand to lose is their original investment...
You sir, are a sick fuck. Did you start fires when you where a kid too? By your logic, I should be able to shoot your dog for incessantly barking and keeping me up at night. Don't get me wrong, nothing the matter with _pet_ owners taking more responsibility for their charges, but really, does simply venturing onto your property warrant a death penalty? Give your head a shake.
In fact I wrote a python script which finds these sentences (called a "self-documenting panagram").
You can change the seed to make your own sentence.
See the code here
I'm just a hobbiest, I'm sure a CS dude could make it better, as the script basically brute-forces it...
Yeah... If I wanted to be an American I would immigrate there. Dumb idea, all the states want is our natural resources, because America's own have already been raped. If something as stupid as this _ever_ happened, that is when I would move to Europe. Thanks but no thanks.
Although konq is my usual browser, I tried the new free version of Opera, since they ditched the ads, and it rocks. In my opinion, way better than firefox.
Everyone paints firefox as the poster child for the open-source movement, whilst I find it memory hungry, bloated, slow, and ugly...
If you haven't tried Opera since they ditched the ads, I recommend that you do...
That being said, I still use konq for all but the few sites that refuse to display in it, even after changing the browser ident.
I remembered reading something like that so I dug out an old book of mine, "Upgrading and Repairing PCs" by Scott Mueller (2000):
The 486SX chip is more a marketing quirk than new technology. Early versions of the 486SX chip actually were DX chips that showed defects in the math-coprocessor section. Instead of being scrapped, the chips were packaged with the FPU section disabled and sold as SX chips.
It actually looks like this is pretty innocuous. Here's a couple choice quotes from the Department of Justice's Lawful Access FAQ, which as you mentioned, is linked in Geist's annotated version of the article:
Lawful access is a specialized tool used to investigate serious crimes, such as drug trafficking, money laundering, smuggling, child pornography, and murder...Lawful access can only be used with legal authority, i.e. a warrant or an authorization to intercept private communications, issued by a judge under specific circumstances. For example, authorizations to intercept private communications can only be used to target particular communications and can only be carried out for a specific period of time. In order to obtain a warrant to search for and seize data, there must be reasonable grounds to believe that an offence has been committed. For the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), both the Solicitor General and a Federal Court judge must approve each warrant application...Lawful access is provided for in legislation such as the Criminal Code, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) Act, the Competition Act and other acts. This legislation is subject to privacy laws and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms...While technology has evolved considerably since then, Canada's lawful access laws have not kept pace. Increasingly complex technologies are challenging conventional lawful access methods.
So it looks to me like they are just bringing 'wiretap' laws into the computer age.
The "ignorant American" flag just doesn't fly. For every ignorant person in our society there is at least one in your society; for every fat person in ours, at least one in yours. We have the good grace to not mock you. What does that say about you?
You had a good point here until you mentioned "We have the good grace not to mock you". I've spent the last 30 minutes now reading through anonymous coward garbage about how all the great things the US has done for the world, sprinkled liberally with thinly veiled insults to Canadians. All these posts are buffered by comments by others trying to explain a different point of view than that of Americans. Go back and read some...you'll find they are almost painfully apologetic about trying not to offend anybody, making a clear distinction between your _government_ and your _citizens_...
But yes, most Americans are good, hardworking, nice people
Aw, shucks, that's just right nice of you! I'd love to hear your opinion on black people. The "good ones" are ok too, right?
...but you still feel the need to twist words instead of realising that people are simply trying to use non-flamebait terms to try to provoke a rational discussion...a point obviously lost on you.
Paul Martin fixed your broken health care system and military yet?
I've never claimed our health care was the best in the world but I wouldn't call it broken. Certainly it's better than the "oh, your poor? You'll have to go die in the gutter then.." system you guys have going on. As for the military, you are making a mighty big assumption that Canadian people want a bigger, better military (so we can be just like our friends to the south and kick ass!!!). Rather, Canadians prefer to spend tax dollars on things with more tangable value like education, healthcare, or for that matter... anything other than military.
You have seen nothing offensive until you have seen the way Americans are portrayed by your media. So don't even start.
I don't even know what you're talking about here. Get a backbone. With all the canucklehead bullshit we put up with from american media you have _nothing_ to say on this point. Shut it...
Then lecture us "aboot" government and society.
I've lived in Canada 28 years and have _never_ heard anyone pronounce about like that...
No, you make fun of us as a means to feel better about yourselves. It's a classic inferiority complex, and very transparent.
Not quite...the North Magnetic pole indeed falls over Canadian soil but the _real_ geographic north pole sits over a huge chunk of ice that covers the Arctic Ocean 10 months of the year. Nobody owns the north pole. Does Brazil own 17% of the equator? (Note: 17% length of equator through Brazil was pulled out of my ass...)
Just 3 months ago I finally replaced the 3GB Quantam Fireball (~9 years old) that was the sole HDD on my firewall/server with an 80 becuase I wanted space for backups of my workstation. It was still working fine. In fact I didn't have the heart to retire it...now I use the entire disk for a swap partition on the aforementioned server. Why? Because I can. Doesn't see much action now though:
total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 759 698 60 0 162 371 -/+ buffers/cache:165 594 Swap: 2598 0 2598
Speaking personally, it's not that I mistrust Microsoft (which I do...) but rather I don't trust *any* password saving programs. Simply put, the more you trust these tools to carry your sensitive info, the more you give up your security and privacy.
It got modded down!? You bastard!!!:) See a joke! Actually I didnt notice that it was modded down. I show a flat score of 1.. so no biggie.
Ah, well I was talking about your AC post because you forgot to log in, or do AC posts automatically start at 0?
Hey, I just thought of something...I think our exchange here is the first time ever on slashdot that a massive flamefest turned into a rational discussion rather than the other way around. We're a shining example to the rest of the world:)
Ok, one more post then hopefully we can put this to bed...
That was meant as a joke. Settle down. And my response was an intelligent rebuttal.. with joke about Canadians thrown in.
Can you do me a favour, if it is a joke put in a smiley:) as it is very difficult to tell it was a joke from your written words. I took it as a direct insult. I watch enough American TV to realize that Canadians are frequently the butt of American jokes: Homer Simpson calling Canada "America Junior", Canadian cars having square wheels on South Park. I also have enough good sense to take this good natured ribbing and laugh at it...but in the written word it is difficult to tell the intentions of the writer.
..and yes your response was intelligent. Just alittle name calling of my own there...sorry.
"we don't want your fuckin help," and "who exactly have you protected us from." I'm pretty sure you didnt mean that one dude.
I guess this is my fault too... I was responding to the 'attitude' of the OP and people who hold that attitude...thus my use of words that imply a response to multiple people. I did not mean to include all Americans at all, and if that is how you (or anybody else) read it, I am truly sorry.
True - but you also cant sit smugly in your Canadian home up there acting as though you need NO help from the United States and your life would be just as peaceful (or moreso) and great if we didnt even exist.
To this point I am afraid I cannot concede. Corelation does not imply causality. Sure we haven't been attacked by anyone in all the years that you have been our neighbor..but you indirectly (and the OP directly) seem to be saying this is because you have been protecting us. Perhaps it's because we are a well respected nation that has no direct enemies? Let me tell you something, and while I don't speak for all Canadians, I know many who share this belief...we are much more scared of reprisal from your government for not adopting "the American way" then we are of an attack from another foriegn nation. I am not saying we would be better if you didn't exist...I'm saying we would be just fine without your help.
I just dont agree with you jumping all over his ass as though you yourself speak for the Canadian government. Canada needs us...and I dont mean just our military. In 1996 the US exported over $6.1 billion in agricultural goods alone to Canada. I'm sure in 2004 that figure is much higher.
I do not speak for my government...in fact I think a great many things my government does are completely stupid. I don't think this changes no matter who your government is. Your point about economic trade is valid, but remember it goes both ways. I have three words for you..softwood lumber tariffs. Why do we have a free-trade agreement when America imposes arbitrary tariffs on Canadian goods imported to the US. Point of fact there are many *Americans* upset about this (mostly general contracters) because they now have to use inferior products or pay extra for the good Canadian stuff. Unfortunatly I cannot provide backup on this point...as It was in a news documentary I saw on TV a while back.
So dont sit there implying that Canada rules and we suck because we're all just a bunch of fat lazy American assholes. Suuurreee... you put some little disclaimer at the bottom.. but its pretty obvious your comments were meant for more than just that one Anonymous Coward.
I don't think I called Americans fat and lazy, I don't even think I implied it, assholes though...sure:) see, this is a joke
There are a number of Americans I respect very highly... Ben Franklin, Thomas Edison, and Henry David Thoureau immediately come to mind, though there are many more. As for who my comments are directed at...see above. They are directed at people who hold an attitude. If you hold a more modest view about the US and the US's role in this world then they are not directed at you... (you doesn't mean *you*, it
First of all, I apologize for the bad language. The poster I responded to was particularily condecending and arrogant. He pissed me off.
Second, thanks for the history lesson
But when the shit hits the fan guess who you'll be calling.
What shit? What fan? Again, mention a single attack on Canada that you have saved us from and I will concede this entire debate. And btw, there is little point in mentioning what might happen in the future. It hasn't happened, no one knows what will happen, so mentioning it here is pointless. Besides, unless our government does a complete about face as starts acting as pompous, arrogant, and imperialistic as yours, we have little to fear of a foreign attack.
The war went from 1939 to 1945. From 1939 to 1941 the Canadians sent troops over to England to train and prepare for an invasion by Germany.
So why exactly do you consider what I wrote wrong? Whether involved in actual combat or not, Canada was commited to the effort from the beginning, whilst the American people were sitting at home mad at Roosevelt(sp?) because they didn't want to send their boys over to Europe to fight a war that 'wasn't their problem'. No matter how you spin it, Canada was in from the beginning, and the US didn't get involved until it affected them directly.
You could just "Eh?" and "Aboot" your way out of conflict.
That's right we all sit up here saying eh and aboot. That's all we fuckin do. It is the tendancy for someone with no real ability to create an intelligent rebuttal to start with the childish name calling. Way to live up to that stereotype, you do America proud.
Repeat after me... "Thank you America!"
Repeat after me: 'thanks but no thanks'. I cannot imagine the kind of arrogance that would lead to your statement, and is exactly why I responded to that first post (was that you?). I will be first in line to thanks the Americans if and when they start treating us as a brother and an equal, instead of a stupid, defensless kid next door that needs your help to stay alive.
but dont get on your high and mighty horse putting down the US as a whole just because you dont agree with the decisions of the present-day US government.
Here you just completely ignore what I wrote in order to bolster your argument. Read the disclaimer at the bottom of my post. It was directed at *that single person*, not the "US as a whole".
but damnit.. our soldiers are there dying to try and keep a little peace and give the Iraqis (and others) a little taste of freedom. They deserve some support and respect.
Indeed they do, but see the soldiers are actually doing something, instead of sitting smugly at home telling people that they owe the US a huge load of debt for their existance.
It is this smug attitude that pisses off the rest of the world so much. True story: My best friend is an American, born in San Fran, he moved up to Canada at the age of 13. We have great fun debating about political issues, and something that he always tends to come back to is that "America is the best country because we could kick anyone's ass". I ask him, "why does that make you better" and he just goes in circles, "because we have the best Military in the world". Granted, the Americans could kick anyones's ass, but it is this attitude of the American people that Military might makes them "the best" that disgusts so many other people. Maybe the American scale of what makes a country better than another is military might...but not Canada's, and not any other Country in this world. Until the American people can take a step back and realize how arrogant this attitude is, the rest of the world will never respect you (and indeed some will hate you).
I'm going to say this one more time, so it is perfectly clear to you...I am not anti-American...I am anti-asshole
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If you insist on following all your "meh"s with exclaimations you obviously don't fully understand what it means. Meh.
"or fine the shareholders"
Not possible. A shareholder cannot be held financially responsible for the actions of the company they own stock in. The only thing they can stand to lose is their original investment...
You sir, are a sick fuck. Did you start fires when you where a kid too? By your logic, I should be able to shoot your dog for incessantly barking and keeping me up at night. Don't get me wrong, nothing the matter with _pet_ owners taking more responsibility for their charges, but really, does simply venturing onto your property warrant a death penalty? Give your head a shake.
In fact I wrote a python script which finds these sentences (called a "self-documenting panagram"). You can change the seed to make your own sentence. See the code here
I'm just a hobbiest, I'm sure a CS dude could make it better, as the script basically brute-forces it...
"The evil that is in the world always comes of ignorance, and good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence, if they lack understanding"
Albert Camus
La Peste (The Plague)
Yeah... If I wanted to be an American I would immigrate there. Dumb idea, all the states want is our natural resources, because America's own have already been raped. If something as stupid as this _ever_ happened, that is when I would move to Europe. Thanks but no thanks.
Really...
Although konq is my usual browser, I tried the new free version of Opera, since they ditched the ads, and it rocks. In my opinion, way better than firefox.
Everyone paints firefox as the poster child for the open-source movement, whilst I find it memory hungry, bloated, slow, and ugly...
If you haven't tried Opera since they ditched the ads, I recommend that you do...
That being said, I still use konq for all but the few sites that refuse to display in it, even after changing the browser ident.
If you haven't already, just scroll down till you see "EXHIBIT A"
I remembered reading something like that so I dug out an old book of mine, "Upgrading and Repairing PCs" by Scott Mueller (2000):
It actually looks like this is pretty innocuous. Here's a couple choice quotes from the Department of Justice's Lawful Access FAQ, which as you mentioned, is linked in Geist's annotated version of the article:
So it looks to me like they are just bringing 'wiretap' laws into the computer age.
No kidding. Reminds me of an early version of CDE *shudder*. Drives me to use xpdf instead
And now your post needs to be modded down because you reprinted the entire post, you pinhead.
Where can I read about this "pump and dump"? I can't seem to find the Illegal Stockmarket Trading HOWTO.
You jest, but really: if North America were a prison you guys would be our bitch. Why? Because we're bigger, and we're on top...
Just to prove your point: go fuck yourself already....
You had a good point here until you mentioned "We have the good grace not to mock you". I've spent the last 30 minutes now reading through anonymous coward garbage about how all the great things the US has done for the world, sprinkled liberally with thinly veiled insults to Canadians. All these posts are buffered by comments by others trying to explain a different point of view than that of Americans. Go back and read some...you'll find they are almost painfully apologetic about trying not to offend anybody, making a clear distinction between your _government_ and your _citizens_...
I've never claimed our health care was the best in the world but I wouldn't call it broken. Certainly it's better than the "oh, your poor? You'll have to go die in the gutter then.." system you guys have going on. As for the military, you are making a mighty big assumption that Canadian people want a bigger, better military (so we can be just like our friends to the south and kick ass!!!). Rather, Canadians prefer to spend tax dollars on things with more tangable value like education, healthcare, or for that matter... anything other than military.
I don't even know what you're talking about here. Get a backbone. With all the canucklehead bullshit we put up with from american media you have _nothing_ to say on this point. Shut it...
I've lived in Canada 28 years and have _never_ heard anyone pronounce about like that...
No shit. I've been Canadian my entire life and never heard of this. Of course if someone called me a "Canuckistan" I'd drop them on their ass.
Not quite...the North Magnetic pole indeed falls over Canadian soil but the _real_ geographic north pole sits over a huge chunk of ice that covers the Arctic Ocean 10 months of the year. Nobody owns the north pole. Does Brazil own 17% of the equator? (Note: 17% length of equator through Brazil was pulled out of my ass...)
You people are jackels. Call me a troll if it makes you feel better, it was a joke. And even so, it doesn't make me wrong.
Make Windows secure.
Just 3 months ago I finally replaced the 3GB Quantam Fireball (~9 years old) that was the sole HDD on my firewall/server with an 80 becuase I wanted space for backups of my workstation. It was still working fine. In fact I didn't have the heart to retire it...now I use the entire disk for a swap partition on the aforementioned server. Why? Because I can. Doesn't see much action now though:
Speaking personally, it's not that I mistrust Microsoft (which I do...) but rather I don't trust *any* password saving programs. Simply put, the more you trust these tools to carry your sensitive info, the more you give up your security and privacy.
Ah, well I was talking about your AC post because you forgot to log in, or do AC posts automatically start at 0?
Hey, I just thought of something...I think our exchange here is the first time ever on slashdot that a massive flamefest turned into a rational discussion rather than the other way around. We're a shining example to the rest of the world :)
Ok, one more post then hopefully we can put this to bed...
That was meant as a joke. Settle down. And my response was an intelligent rebuttal.. with joke about Canadians thrown in.
Can you do me a favour, if it is a joke put in a smiley :) as it is very difficult to tell it was a joke from your written words. I took it as a direct insult. I watch enough American TV to realize that Canadians are frequently the butt of American jokes: Homer Simpson calling Canada "America Junior", Canadian cars having square wheels on South Park. I also have enough good sense to take this good natured ribbing and laugh at it...but in the written word it is difficult to tell the intentions of the writer.
"we don't want your fuckin help," and "who exactly have you protected us from." I'm pretty sure you didnt mean that one dude.
I guess this is my fault too... I was responding to the 'attitude' of the OP and people who hold that attitude...thus my use of words that imply a response to multiple people. I did not mean to include all Americans at all, and if that is how you (or anybody else) read it, I am truly sorry.
True - but you also cant sit smugly in your Canadian home up there acting as though you need NO help from the United States and your life would be just as peaceful (or moreso) and great if we didnt even exist.
To this point I am afraid I cannot concede. Corelation does not imply causality. Sure we haven't been attacked by anyone in all the years that you have been our neighbor..but you indirectly (and the OP directly) seem to be saying this is because you have been protecting us. Perhaps it's because we are a well respected nation that has no direct enemies? Let me tell you something, and while I don't speak for all Canadians, I know many who share this belief...we are much more scared of reprisal from your government for not adopting "the American way" then we are of an attack from another foriegn nation. I am not saying we would be better if you didn't exist...I'm saying we would be just fine without your help.
I just dont agree with you jumping all over his ass as though you yourself speak for the Canadian government. Canada needs us...and I dont mean just our military. In 1996 the US exported over $6.1 billion in agricultural goods alone to Canada. I'm sure in 2004 that figure is much higher.
I do not speak for my government...in fact I think a great many things my government does are completely stupid. I don't think this changes no matter who your government is. Your point about economic trade is valid, but remember it goes both ways. I have three words for you..softwood lumber tariffs. Why do we have a free-trade agreement when America imposes arbitrary tariffs on Canadian goods imported to the US. Point of fact there are many *Americans* upset about this (mostly general contracters) because they now have to use inferior products or pay extra for the good Canadian stuff. Unfortunatly I cannot provide backup on this point...as It was in a news documentary I saw on TV a while back.
So dont sit there implying that Canada rules and we suck because we're all just a bunch of fat lazy American assholes. Suuurreee... you put some little disclaimer at the bottom.. but its pretty obvious your comments were meant for more than just that one Anonymous Coward.
I don't think I called Americans fat and lazy, I don't even think I implied it, assholes though...sure :) see, this is a joke
There are a number of Americans I respect very highly... Ben Franklin, Thomas Edison, and Henry David Thoureau immediately come to mind, though there are many more. As for who my comments are directed at...see above. They are directed at people who hold an attitude. If you hold a more modest view about the US and the US's role in this world then they are not directed at you... (you doesn't mean *you*, it
First of all, I apologize for the bad language. The poster I responded to was particularily condecending and arrogant. He pissed me off.
Second, thanks for the history lesson
But when the shit hits the fan guess who you'll be calling.What shit? What fan? Again, mention a single attack on Canada that you have saved us from and I will concede this entire debate. And btw, there is little point in mentioning what might happen in the future. It hasn't happened, no one knows what will happen, so mentioning it here is pointless. Besides, unless our government does a complete about face as starts acting as pompous, arrogant, and imperialistic as yours, we have little to fear of a foreign attack.
The war went from 1939 to 1945. From 1939 to 1941 the Canadians sent troops over to England to train and prepare for an invasion by Germany.
So why exactly do you consider what I wrote wrong? Whether involved in actual combat or not, Canada was commited to the effort from the beginning, whilst the American people were sitting at home mad at Roosevelt(sp?) because they didn't want to send their boys over to Europe to fight a war that 'wasn't their problem'. No matter how you spin it, Canada was in from the beginning, and the US didn't get involved until it affected them directly.
You could just "Eh?" and "Aboot" your way out of conflict.That's right we all sit up here saying eh and aboot. That's all we fuckin do. It is the tendancy for someone with no real ability to create an intelligent rebuttal to start with the childish name calling. Way to live up to that stereotype, you do America proud.
Repeat after me... "Thank you America!"
Repeat after me: 'thanks but no thanks'. I cannot imagine the kind of arrogance that would lead to your statement, and is exactly why I responded to that first post (was that you?). I will be first in line to thanks the Americans if and when they start treating us as a brother and an equal, instead of a stupid, defensless kid next door that needs your help to stay alive.
but dont get on your high and mighty horse putting down the US as a whole just because you dont agree with the decisions of the present-day US government.Here you just completely ignore what I wrote in order to bolster your argument. Read the disclaimer at the bottom of my post. It was directed at *that single person*, not the "US as a whole".
but damnit.. our soldiers are there dying to try and keep a little peace and give the Iraqis (and others) a little taste of freedom. They deserve some support and respect.Indeed they do, but see the soldiers are actually doing something, instead of sitting smugly at home telling people that they owe the US a huge load of debt for their existance.
It is this smug attitude that pisses off the rest of the world so much. True story: My best friend is an American, born in San Fran, he moved up to Canada at the age of 13. We have great fun debating about political issues, and something that he always tends to come back to is that "America is the best country because we could kick anyone's ass". I ask him, "why does that make you better" and he just goes in circles, "because we have the best Military in the world". Granted, the Americans could kick anyones's ass, but it is this attitude of the American people that Military might makes them "the best" that disgusts so many other people. Maybe the American scale of what makes a country better than another is military might...but not Canada's, and not any other Country in this world. Until the American people can take a step back and realize how arrogant this attitude is, the rest of the world will never respect you (and indeed some will hate you).
I'm going to say this one more time, so it is perfectly clear to you...I am not anti-American...I am anti-asshole
Good day sir.