Explain to me why the police having your DNA is a bad thing?
Will they be able to keep track of where you are? No Will they be able to know what you've done? No (unless you have actually been involved in a crime) Can the information of your DNA be used to harm you? Not if its used ONLY for DNA matching against crime scenes, and kept strictly confidential
Its not like their monitoring your private life, its simply a recording of your DNA sequence that can only be used in matching to DNA found at crime scenes.
And its not like hackers can frame you by looking up your DNA from the database and replicating your DNA, were nowhere near as advanced in cloning, that we can clone off a disk. And even if we could, we can already clone fingerprints, but that doesn't invalidate the usefulness of fingerprinting
If your taking up arms against this, why aren't you taking up arms against the fact that the government KNOWS your full name? Its effectively the same thing, an ID Tag that drastically narrows down an unknown ID to a few possible individuals. It can do NOTHING ELSE.
The biggest issues i see with such a database, is the security behind the system. And that it gets used only for criminal checking and nothing else. But all systems can be hacked, there are far more concerning files that can be hacked, then a listing of each citizens DNA. Also that it is solely used only for matching crime scene evidence, since i don't want a society like in the movie Gattaca, but thats going off-topic by far.
So someone explain to me the big deal How does it harm you for the government to know your DNA? How does it effect your rights as a citizen?
I don't believe it does either, and if it makes crime solving more accurate, it can only be "A Good Thing" -tm
Well i personally enjoy it if its a game that i know and understand, and enjoy playing.
I'm very competitive, and watching professionals, i can glean some insight into advanced tactics and gameplay. Which results in me playing better and thus winning more. (Its also fun to laugh at their screw-ups)
Its fun to watch two people/teams go head to head, just like in sports.
And finally, watching someone else play can give you a lot of fun of actually playing the game, but without actually doing any of that annoying thinking that is often involved. Or have you never watched someone else play a game over their shoulder?
"Actually more likely is the services which handles media getting more cpu time is doing just that, prioritising the audio over the network. Or, it could be HD sound they're playing which is clogging up the limited bandwidth on the PCI bus." Modern pc's, use a gigabit controler, to offload the bandwidth and processing, before it reaches the pci bus.
Unless your using a pci network card, or a fairly old/cheap motherboard, it should have nothing to do with the available bandwidth on the pci bus
Long term, if AMD doesn't make a profit, and eventually liquidates, Intel will be the only remaining manufacturer of x86 CPUs (At least the only one able to meet demand, at cost effective prices)
They'll have an effective monopoly, which means without a doubt, Intel will raise their prices... Its not like a competitor can spring in to compete. The capital required, both in plant, and research, to enter such a manufacturing market is mammoth, how many billion have AMD invested in their own manufacturing plants, let alone research?
If AMD dies, the only thing that could keep Intel in check dies, and with it, fair prices. The same can be said with nvidia, since ati's fate is tied to amd.
Do we still need a "music industry" to "find good music"? Does it need to be "published" in the sense of "put on a record"? Those are obsolete concepts. I suggest you look up the definition of obsolete, since record companies clearly aren't obsolete. You might as well start calling news papers obsolete, but I'll point out we still publish them on paper, and many prefer to read it in that form. Same goes with Albums.
And I'll point out, that i haven't been referring to record companys, but companies in the music industry. This includes stores like iTunes. How retarded would that orginal sentance sound, if i directed it at Itunes.
If iTunes want me to stop downloading music from P2P networks, they need to offer a better-quality product than that available for free. How is iTunes supposed to survive giving out songs for free, when it doesn't even make a profit selling them? Does that not spell out what my previous 2 posts have been about?
Oh, and pope, I work in software. There is no merchandise, no adds, and they usaly aren't large enough to warrant a support service, to allow me to give it away free, and profit from secondary services. If people took what they wanted from me, and didn't reimburse me by BUYING it, i wouldn't be able to continue as a programmer.
Anyway, i'm finished with this discussion. Judging by the moderation of the original post, 70% of/. think that they should have the right to get what they want for free. Very disappointing moderations.
Owning a license is not the same as "making music". Your right, but they are in the music industry, they promote music (at least in theory), when you pay them, you pay them for their efforts, which would include the efforts of finding good music and publishing it.
When you just pirate it, your the only person that "wins". The artists get nothing, and the record company that promotes them gets nothing.
How is that beneficial to society. All it does is encourage artists to look towards other professions when people think that they have a right to their works for "free".
If you like your artists, sponsor them. Spouting crap along the lines of "They should allow me to download it for free, otherwise i'll pirate it", is nothing short of disgusting
The fact that i was modded flamebate for saying otherwise, goes to show how much people think its their right to pirate software/media for free
What a shining example of ethics you have there. Why should i pay them when i can go out and "steal" it for free.
What a wonderful place the world would be with that mentality. Wish i could of applied it when i went to tech. Why should i pay course fees, when i can print out a diploma for $1
If they make music, and you want it, pay them what they want, or move on. It is not your right to make their hard work your own. And its going off-topic anyway The story is about DRM, which we hate because it limits or breaks what we can and should be able to do with legitimately purchased music/dvds/games Its not about how we should be able to steal freely.
I'm not sure how shipping in different parts from all corners of the world necessarily helps the 'carbon-free' thing either. Basically, my thinking is that until electricity supplies are all (or at least mostly) from renewable and sustainable sources then a small electric car is no more or less environmentally friendly than say a small diesel car. There was a BBC documentary, about the death of the electric car. It went on about how the state of California, in its (now dead) initiative for electric cars, had worked out that even if the electric cars were fueled from the power generated from COAL, including the loss of power from the distribution grid. It'd still be more carbon friendly then burning petrol in a combustion engine.
The potential for a electric car to revolutionize the transit world is tremendous, but the oil companies, as do traditional the car manufacturers have a vested interest in not seeing it happen.
If you want to know more about the history of the eletric car, and the state of californa, and even the future of the eletric car, i'd STRONGLY advise you to watch
Chris Paine's 2006 documentary: Who Killed The Electric Car?
I love some of the machines in NZ Most often give out $20 notes, but a few also dispense $10 notes, theres also the $100 note that gets dispensed if you withdrawal larger sums of money (above $200).
Kiwibank atm's seem to be the best at giving $10 notes from my experience.
Just to clarify something Its still legal to make satire, and ridicule politician. You just can't use footage taken from inside the Beehive (The New Zealand parliament)
So making fun of them, while using footage of them outside is perfectly legal, and i belive thats how the Australians have adapted the most part.
I am however greatly bothered by the fact that this is what i consider abuse of power, and rather nasty form of censorship of the actions of our goverment.
If a jumbo plan was to land in upto 1 meter of water, going at a few hundred KM/s, i would expect the stress on the landing gears would be considerable.
The gears might be designed to take monumental stress vertically, but probably not horizontally, as would be the case when 1 meter high water crashes into it at that speed, in addition to the stress of landing the plane.
I'm also not certain about how it would effect the stopping distance if it was just a small puddle either, since i would guess that yesterdays airliner crash was caused by the rain, a small puddle would probably be more more trouble then value.
Thats horribly short sighted. If you believe that all citizens should be given the same attention, regardless of circumstances.
In the case of large multinational organizations, you want to be helpful towards them, as the welfare of those company's are reflected in their employees. Poor decisions can result in them just packing up and moving to a more considerate country. Then your down in both tax revenues and employment.
Its understandable why they should give large companies a little extra time to hear about their concerns. Their needs are simply more dire then the average citizens.
I respect and make it a point not to take the police, firefighters, EMTS and all other first responders who put their lives on the line for strangers not for granted. I think I just got a bad deal. So what if I had to pay some lady's court fees. Those guys put their lives on the line for strangers all the time. I have a hard time believing that that is a true story, but assuming that it is, then i have to wonder why you seem to think its a nice idea to let police and firefighters have their way. As its said, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act", evil prevailed in your case.
The only thing you achieve by submitting to corruption, is encourage it. Yes they deserve respect for their jobs, but that doesn't give them the right to trample over your rights in the process.
Saying that, reality can be pretty harsh on ideals, but if it was me, i would of done everything in my power to make that officer regret ticking me. But perhaps thats just me, as my friends know i go off like a cracker over corruption/abuse of power:)
The world might be awash in books, but how many people read them for entertainment now?
Its been my belief that people are moving away from books, using other information services, or entertainment options instead.
Take a look at newspapers, their paper readership is dwindling, and many have closed up or merged together. Some are attempting to move online in hopes of keeping their readerships.
Computers and consoles are always appealing, as is web and blogging or what not for the younger generation.
The point that the bookseller was trying to make, is that people reading less and less for personal pleasure.
As far as i'm aware, shrink-wrapped EULAs have never been tested in court, as far as i'm concerned, unless the user performs an action, that directly relates to accepting the contact, it isn't valid.
You can't sell someone a dvd box, and the moment they open it, find they are bound to a contact they never even saw, let alone agreed to. Now if they signed a contact before purchasing, then it would be solid. But thats not the case.
Futhermore, you own the dvd, just like you own any book you purchase. You have every right to view it, you simply don't have the right to COPY it, as that would be copyright infringement. As for the required act of coping the data from the dvd to the screen via the computer is copying, its not illegal, because the authorization to do so is already implicitly given from the author by publishing on that medium.
...A law would decree that "those who create software that collects and stores data build into their code not only the ability to forget with time, but make such forgetting the default." From a security point of view, all you would need to do to cause chaos, would be to change the system clock, and the data would start to erase. The number of compromises would be horrible. If there was any way to change the system clock, you could force lawful applications to erase their data.
From a commercial point of view, the cost of adding functions, and redesigning code that works on the assumption that data is permanent is incalculable, it'd be worse then all the reprogramming that went into y2k.
what i believe hes getting mixed up, is not forgetfulness, but privacy. Not everything needs to, nor should be recorded for the records. And of that which is, most of it should be kept confidential.
I think its a good idea, well worth investigating, but its not just another domain that they need, they'd need support of the browsers, as well as greater security and administration of the domain itself.
In browers that supported the.bank domain, they could do a series of checks for example
Checking the security certificates for the.bank domain, ensuring that the cert is authenticated by the.bank domain. Self created certs would be unacceptable.
Creating a border or some other distinguishable feature to the rendering of the site, when in a.bank extension. For example, a half inch security border around the screen (Yes, thats a bad idea since it could be mimicked by javascript, but you get the idea)
Enforcing strict security on owners of the sites, as well as extenstive registration processes. Thus preventing cyber-squatters and phishing
Email clients that supported it, could be designed to do a security checks from emails claiming to come from.bank domains, and flag them as phishing attempts if they fail
The results wouldn't make sites on that domain entirely secure, but with just a LITTLE community backing from mozilla, microsoft, and the others, it would help GREATLY, its a step in the right direction at the very least.
Or how about being able to play it on your hardware?
Mulix64 created the first published exploit because when he plugged in his HD LCD, the movie was degraded to the point where it went blurry. (We can thank microsoft's DRM in vista for that)
And thats when he was using a supported platform, i doubt very much that you'll be able to play HD-DVD or bluray on linux, without the encryption being cracked. It'll certainly never happen with an open source player.
In short, let's not be disingenuous here: we all know what the primary application will be for the copy protection crack. It'll be used for pirating, that goes without saying, but nothings going to stop pirating, HD-DVD's have been cracked and torrented months ago. Even if you had an uncrackable DRM, pirates would work around it.
What this does, is to empower legitimate hddvd owners, the ability to playback their dvd's however they like, be it on linux, on "insecure hardware" on vista, or from a hard-drive down in the basement.
I personally believe when i buy a dvd, its my given right to play for myself, anyway i see fit, DRM only serves to restrict that right. Defending DRM is akin to surrendering personal freedoms
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Explain to me why the police having your DNA is a bad thing?
Will they be able to keep track of where you are? No
Will they be able to know what you've done? No (unless you have actually been involved in a crime)
Can the information of your DNA be used to harm you? Not if its used ONLY for DNA matching against crime scenes, and kept strictly confidential
Its not like their monitoring your private life, its simply a recording of your DNA sequence that can only be used in matching to DNA found at crime scenes.
And its not like hackers can frame you by looking up your DNA from the database and replicating your DNA, were nowhere near as advanced in cloning, that we can clone off a disk. And even if we could, we can already clone fingerprints, but that doesn't invalidate the usefulness of fingerprinting
If your taking up arms against this, why aren't you taking up arms against the fact that the government KNOWS your full name?
Its effectively the same thing, an ID Tag that drastically narrows down an unknown ID to a few possible individuals. It can do NOTHING ELSE.
The biggest issues i see with such a database, is the security behind the system. And that it gets used only for criminal checking and nothing else. But all systems can be hacked, there are far more concerning files that can be hacked, then a listing of each citizens DNA.
Also that it is solely used only for matching crime scene evidence, since i don't want a society like in the movie Gattaca, but thats going off-topic by far.
So someone explain to me the big deal
How does it harm you for the government to know your DNA?
How does it effect your rights as a citizen?
I don't believe it does either, and if it makes crime solving more accurate, it can only be "A Good Thing" -tm
Well i personally enjoy it if its a game that i know and understand, and enjoy playing.
I'm very competitive, and watching professionals, i can glean some insight into advanced tactics and gameplay. Which results in me playing better and thus winning more. (Its also fun to laugh at their screw-ups)
Its fun to watch two people/teams go head to head, just like in sports.
And finally, watching someone else play can give you a lot of fun of actually playing the game, but without actually doing any of that annoying thinking that is often involved. Or have you never watched someone else play a game over their shoulder?
Your reading the wrong link. I'd suggest you read peoples posts more carefully next time, but for your convenience, heres the link again:
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/1318360/1336811
I'll point out for those of us who don't RTFA (in this case, the one linked above)
"Police would not comment because it is an operational matter but in a statement they say the equipment was used according to a court order."
If thats truly the case, then what they did was lawful, and nowhere near as bad as what i suspect happens in America with their patriot act.
Saying that, I'd like to see such a court order before i take them at their word. And if no such order can be produced... peoples heads need to roll.
Maybe because Microsoft backed the HD-DVD consortium, which then paid paramount.
Thus, MS is giving financial incentives, but not directly.
Unless your using a pci network card, or a fairly old/cheap motherboard, it should have nothing to do with the available bandwidth on the pci bus
Its only short term, that lower prices are good.
Long term, if AMD doesn't make a profit, and eventually liquidates, Intel will be the only remaining manufacturer of x86 CPUs (At least the only one able to meet demand, at cost effective prices)
They'll have an effective monopoly, which means without a doubt, Intel will raise their prices... Its not like a competitor can spring in to compete. The capital required, both in plant, and research, to enter such a manufacturing market is mammoth, how many billion have AMD invested in their own manufacturing plants, let alone research?
If AMD dies, the only thing that could keep Intel in check dies, and with it, fair prices.
The same can be said with nvidia, since ati's fate is tied to amd.
If I'm to spoil the joke, its like this.
Each member pilots a part of guntron.
The blue team member is missing in the final picture.
I'll leave it to you to work the rest out.
I think its also worth mentioning the Perry Bible Fellowship's take of Guntron!
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http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF186-Guntron_Alliance
If you don't get it, you clearly don't remember voltron
You might as well start calling news papers obsolete, but I'll point out we still publish them on paper, and many prefer to read it in that form. Same goes with Albums.
And I'll point out, that i haven't been referring to record companys, but companies in the music industry. This includes stores like iTunes. How retarded would that orginal sentance sound, if i directed it at Itunes. If iTunes want me to stop downloading music from P2P networks, they need to offer a better-quality product than that available for free. How is iTunes supposed to survive giving out songs for free, when it doesn't even make a profit selling them?
Does that not spell out what my previous 2 posts have been about?
Oh, and pope, I work in software. There is no merchandise, no adds, and they usaly aren't large enough to warrant a support service, to allow me to give it away free, and profit from secondary services. If people took what they wanted from me, and didn't reimburse me by BUYING it, i wouldn't be able to continue as a programmer.
Anyway, i'm finished with this discussion.
Judging by the moderation of the original post, 70% of
When you just pirate it, your the only person that "wins". The artists get nothing, and the record company that promotes them gets nothing.
How is that beneficial to society. All it does is encourage artists to look towards other professions when people think that they have a right to their works for "free".
If you like your artists, sponsor them. Spouting crap along the lines of "They should allow me to download it for free, otherwise i'll pirate it", is nothing short of disgusting
The fact that i was modded flamebate for saying otherwise, goes to show how much people think its their right to pirate software/media for free
What a shining example of ethics you have there.
Why should i pay them when i can go out and "steal" it for free.
What a wonderful place the world would be with that mentality. Wish i could of applied it when i went to tech. Why should i pay course fees, when i can print out a diploma for $1
If they make music, and you want it, pay them what they want, or move on. It is not your right to make their hard work your own.
And its going off-topic anyway
The story is about DRM, which we hate because it limits or breaks what we can and should be able to do with legitimately purchased music/dvds/games
Its not about how we should be able to steal freely.
The potential for a electric car to revolutionize the transit world is tremendous, but the oil companies, as do traditional the car manufacturers have a vested interest in not seeing it happen.
If you want to know more about the history of the eletric car, and the state of californa, and even the future of the eletric car, i'd STRONGLY advise you to watch
Chris Paine's 2006 documentary: Who Killed The Electric Car?
I love some of the machines in NZ
Most often give out $20 notes, but a few also dispense $10 notes, theres also the $100 note that gets dispensed if you withdrawal larger sums of money (above $200).
Kiwibank atm's seem to be the best at giving $10 notes from my experience.
Just to clarify something
Its still legal to make satire, and ridicule politician. You just can't use footage taken from inside the Beehive (The New Zealand parliament)
So making fun of them, while using footage of them outside is perfectly legal, and i belive thats how the Australians have adapted the most part.
I am however greatly bothered by the fact that this is what i consider abuse of power, and rather nasty form of censorship of the actions of our goverment.
If a jumbo plan was to land in upto 1 meter of water, going at a few hundred KM/s, i would expect the stress on the landing gears would be considerable.
The gears might be designed to take monumental stress vertically, but probably not horizontally, as would be the case when 1 meter high water crashes into it at that speed, in addition to the stress of landing the plane.
I'm also not certain about how it would effect the stopping distance if it was just a small puddle either, since i would guess that yesterdays airliner crash was caused by the rain, a small puddle would probably be more more trouble then value.
The History of Computer Role-Playing Games Part 1: The Early Years (1980-1983)
The History of Computer Role-Playing Games Part 2: The Golden Age (1985-1993)
Thats horribly short sighted.
If you believe that all citizens should be given the same attention, regardless of circumstances.
In the case of large multinational organizations, you want to be helpful towards them, as the welfare of those company's are reflected in their employees. Poor decisions can result in them just packing up and moving to a more considerate country. Then your down in both tax revenues and employment.
Its understandable why they should give large companies a little extra time to hear about their concerns. Their needs are simply more dire then the average citizens.
The only thing you achieve by submitting to corruption, is encourage it. Yes they deserve respect for their jobs, but that doesn't give them the right to trample over your rights in the process.
Saying that, reality can be pretty harsh on ideals, but if it was me, i would of done everything in my power to make that officer regret ticking me. But perhaps thats just me, as my friends know i go off like a cracker over corruption/abuse of power
The world might be awash in books, but how many people read them for entertainment now?
Its been my belief that people are moving away from books, using other information services, or entertainment options instead.
Take a look at newspapers, their paper readership is dwindling, and many have closed up or merged together. Some are attempting to move online in hopes of keeping their readerships.
Computers and consoles are always appealing, as is web and blogging or what not for the younger generation.
The point that the bookseller was trying to make, is that people reading less and less for personal pleasure.
I'm not sure you have your facts straght.
As far as i'm aware, shrink-wrapped EULAs have never been tested in court, as far as i'm concerned, unless the user performs an action, that directly relates to accepting the contact, it isn't valid.
You can't sell someone a dvd box, and the moment they open it, find they are bound to a contact they never even saw, let alone agreed to. Now if they signed a contact before purchasing, then it would be solid. But thats not the case.
Futhermore, you own the dvd, just like you own any book you purchase. You have every right to view it, you simply don't have the right to COPY it, as that would be copyright infringement. As for the required act of coping the data from the dvd to the screen via the computer is copying, its not illegal, because the authorization to do so is already implicitly given from the author by publishing on that medium.
Disclaimer: IANAL, but its just common sense
...A law would decree that "those who create software that collects and stores data build into their code not only the ability to forget with time, but make such forgetting the default." From a security point of view, all you would need to do to cause chaos, would be to change the system clock, and the data would start to erase. The number of compromises would be horrible. If there was any way to change the system clock, you could force lawful applications to erase their data.From a commercial point of view, the cost of adding functions, and redesigning code that works on the assumption that data is permanent is incalculable, it'd be worse then all the reprogramming that went into y2k.
what i believe hes getting mixed up, is not forgetfulness, but privacy. Not everything needs to, nor should be recorded for the records. And of that which is, most of it should be kept confidential.
In browers that supported the
The results wouldn't make sites on that domain entirely secure, but with just a LITTLE community backing from mozilla, microsoft, and the others, it would help GREATLY, its a step in the right direction at the very least.
Mulix64 created the first published exploit because when he plugged in his HD LCD, the movie was degraded to the point where it went blurry. (We can thank microsoft's DRM in vista for that)
And thats when he was using a supported platform, i doubt very much that you'll be able to play HD-DVD or bluray on linux, without the encryption being cracked. It'll certainly never happen with an open source player. In short, let's not be disingenuous here: we all know what the primary application will be for the copy protection crack. It'll be used for pirating, that goes without saying, but nothings going to stop pirating, HD-DVD's have been cracked and torrented months ago. Even if you had an uncrackable DRM, pirates would work around it.
What this does, is to empower legitimate hddvd owners, the ability to playback their dvd's however they like, be it on linux, on "insecure hardware" on vista, or from a hard-drive down in the basement.
I personally believe when i buy a dvd, its my given right to play for myself, anyway i see fit, DRM only serves to restrict that right. Defending DRM is akin to surrendering personal freedoms
I think what he actually meant, was that Google uses more then 1 medium to collect the images