There sure seems to be a lot of nuke engineers from russia living in the US. When I was in elementary school one of my friends dads was a nuke engineer from russia and now one of my cow orkers is a former nuke engineer from russia. They are everywhere. I spell it "nuke" because I do not know the correct way to spell it, I have depended on spell checkers for far too many years and now without one I cannot function properly. It is sad. Like not being able to do basic arithmatic because you forgot your calculator at home.
Some guy at work showed me the jibjab video. Everyone was laughing outloud and stuff lik they thought it was hilarious or something. I don't know, I thought that it was kind of stupid. The same level of comedy that you see on any brainless half hour tv situation comedy. But I am glad that they won this case!
We could just give them anti-grav belts... If a colonists anti-grav belt failed, like the batterys ran dead or something, then the gtavity would suddenly affect them and they would just go like squash! and turn to bloody jelly with bits of bone sticking out. It would be cool.
Yes what is up with that whole Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. shit anyways? We get no explanations. Only forcefed strange warnings about nothing to see and moving along...
Here is one example: http://shock-awe.info/archive/000858.php/
Granted it is not the most coherant example, but I do not have the time right now to go digging through google looking for examples of snopes being wrong.
I am not sure how scopes could be right or wrong
If they say that something is False when in reality that thing is True then snopes is wrong.
Snopes has been wrong about things in the past. Chances are there are things on their site that are wrong right now. Snopes will get things wrong in the future. People act like Snopes is the infallible word of god or something but it is not.
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And one day, when *you* get laid, you'll see why it is we prefer chicks to computers
As much as it would be hard for my friends and coworkers to believe, I am not a virgin. Yes I have had sex and I still tend to prefer computers to girls.
Don't get me wrong. Given the choice between a night with a sparcstation and a night with Natalie Portman I'd choose Natalie Portman anyday. But in reality, sadly, those are not the choices.
In reality I can work my ass off trying to impress some woman and then be forced to spend at least 50% of my limited freetime doing what she wants and I also have to hang out with her idiot friends and talk to her her dumbass family members on holidays and all kinds of other equally abhorrent stuff. And why? So that I can get laid a couple times a week? I've been there and done that and it is just not worth it. I'll take computers.
Now if I could find a girl who was kinda like Marla from Fight Club, then I might change my mind about girls. The problem is that most girls are lamers and the ones who aren't are already taken or wouldn't go out with me anyways.
And the fact is you don't need a girlfriend to gat laid. Get out the Yellow Pages and look under Massage Parlour and go to the ones that have adverts reading "Asian massage" and "Full Service." It'll cost you about one C-note plus a twenty dollar tip and most of the chicks are hot.
My thoughts exactly. Chances are, any so-called geek that has a girlfriend is way too pussywhipped to engage any longer in true geekdom.
Seriously. Every geek that I've known who gets a girlfriend seems to stop being a geek after that. Sure they may still work in IT or be majoring in CS or whatever. Sure they may still spend hours a day programming, reading SF and playing video games. And they probably still call themself a geek. But it is like when they get a GF something dies inside them. They no longer seem quite as hardcore.
In the worst scenerios, it's when a geek gets a GF and starts acting better than all of his former friends. Like when you ask him to come over on friday night to hang out in the parents basement and play AD&D and he gets all snooty and says "Heh! I've got a giiirrrlfriend now. I can't hang out with yooouuu guys on friday. I have to take my giirrlfriend to the movies." Fucking fuckwitted scumfucks.
Yuk. I have tried to live off of Ramen noodles (called Romulen noodles around these parts) and after a week or so it is really difficult to force the stuff down. You get hungry as hell but you just stay hungry because the thought of eating more of those nasty noodles makes you want to vomit.
This guys predictions for the year 2014 are a joke.
I predict that in 2014 things won't be changed all that much. Change happens but the kind of change that this guy is talking about will take a hell of a lot longer than ten years. I'd say that 2024 at the earliest for most of his predictions, but realistically I think that most of them won't come about untill 2034 and some not until even later than that. The infrastructure is just not there for most of what he talks about.
I don't think that they are judging someone by the operating system they use. I think that they are judging the operating system by the people who use it.
What? I spit on your grave was great! I actually got the new Anniversery edition that has a special audio track with Joe Bob Briggs doing an MST3K kind of voiceover making fun of the movie. Unlike MST3K, Joe Bob is a little less politically correct. Like for instance; when one of the rednecks is raping the girl, Joe Bob says "Hey look at that guy! He's doing the hurdy-gurdy between that girls legs!" Well... I guess you'd have to see it. It is funny though. If you are a fan of MST3K then I'd recommend picking up the I Spit On Your Grave anniversery edition with Joe Bob Briggs.
I can't see the advantage of using a palm over using a small notebook (12" ibook or powerbook for example)
Well, cost is obviously a factor. I can get a nice PDA for less $300.00. The same cannot be said for a 12" ibook.
Plus that ibook won't fit in your pocket the way a PDA will. People just say "carry the ibook in a bag." Well I don't want to carry a fscking bag with me wherever I go! Plus while I'm standing on a bus or in the subway I can pull out my PDA and mess with it for a few minutes and slip it back in my pocket. An ibook would just be too unwieldy to unzip the bag, pull out the ibook and open it up and wait for it to boot and preferably find a place to sit with it because I assume that using an ibook standing up is awkward...etc.
I like ibooks. I like PDA's. They are just two completely diferent devices suited to different tasks. An ibook gives you a lot of portability. A PDA gives you a hell of a lot more portability with a much cheaper price tag but with a reduced feature set. With the addition of things like WiFi and keyboards (ala the Sharp Zaurus) I find PDA's looking much more attractive.
Somewhat maybe related... In high school we had those fire alarms that have the handle that you pull down to trigger the alarm. Well, as one of my unlucky (and stupid) friends found out; when you pulled the alarm a big blast of marking dye shot out covering your hand, arm, torso, face and everything else with a blue/black stain that was almost impossible to wash off. Needless to say he was found and busted within minutes of pulling the alarm.
And yes, before anyone replys to this, I realize that Linus's wife is the six-time
Finnish national Karate champion. I am not dissing her. I am just saying that in general the whole belt system is stupid and should be treated with a large grain of salt.
Any dumbass can go down to the local strip mall karateka once or twice a week for a few years and end up with a black belt. It doesn't mean shit. Hell, the YMCA near where I live has courses that allow you to "become a certified black belt in only 2 weeks!"
The whole belt ranking system in martial arts is no different than the stupid MCSE certifications in the IT world.
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Rather than complain and fret about the potential evil uses to which it can be put, the sensible person would welcome it as yet another useful tool in their security arsenal.
You completely missed my point. I said I am not against full disclosure or the dissemation of security tools. I think that tools like metasploit can be very valuable. What I was saying was that the inclusion of the VNC server payload was irresponsible. I don't see the point in the metasploit team creating and including this payload. That is my point.
Did you also whine about "nmap"?
WTF are you talking about? Didn't I say "I am not against full disclosure or the dissemation of security tools?!" My problem is that I don't understand the point with them creating this specific payload and nobody seems to give me a valid explanation why they did it. I mean if you are vulnerable to the exploit that this payload uses then that's all you need to know, why include a payload like this? Why not just release the exploit with a payload that is already being used, why introduce new payloads into the wild?
My college isn't even deploying SP2 on their new faculty/staff desktop builds.
Good for them! They would be idiots to deploy it on production machines before it has had a little bit of burn in time to find out what software it breaks, what bugs it introduces, etc.
Your logic ultimately falls back to "security through obscurity".
No. My logic is simply that creating an extremely easy to use cracking tool and including things like a "VNC server" as a payload (which would be of limited use for pen testing but would be very useful for the kiddies) is simply not aresponsible thing to do. Just because someone else could possibly make and distribute similar payloads isn't an excuse to just say "well, someone else might do it anyways so we might as well do it."
Yes, I do believe that the much maligned concept of "security through obscurity" is not a bad idea and can be quite useful as long as it is not your only line of defense. When you choose not to list your main email addy all over the net so that spammers don't get it, that is an example of security through obscurity but no one ever says that is a bad idea.
This is not very responsible.
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There is no reason to include a VNC server payload like this. Those legitimate security professionals who use Metasploit for pen testing should have the skills to create their own VNC payload, if they actually have a use for it. To include it ready made, point and click, easy to use like this just makes it that much easier for the script kiddiots out there.
I am not against full disclosure or the dissemation of security tools I just happen to think that for every one security pro who uses this tool for good there will be a hundred script kiddies who use it for causing havoc. Rather than make life easier for the good guys this will just make it that much more difficult.
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There sure seems to be a lot of nuke engineers from russia living in the US. When I was in elementary school one of my friends dads was a nuke engineer from russia and now one of my cow orkers is a former nuke engineer from russia. They are everywhere. I spell it "nuke" because I do not know the correct way to spell it, I have depended on spell checkers for far too many years and now without one I cannot function properly. It is sad. Like not being able to do basic arithmatic because you forgot your calculator at home.
Some guy at work showed me the jibjab video. Everyone was laughing outloud and stuff lik they thought it was hilarious or something. I don't know, I thought that it was kind of stupid. The same level of comedy that you see on any brainless half hour tv situation comedy. But I am glad that they won this case!
To extend the prison metaphor, wouldn't the encryption that you use be the bars?
We could just give them anti-grav belts... If a colonists anti-grav belt failed, like the batterys ran dead or something, then the gtavity would suddenly affect them and they would just go like squash! and turn to bloody jelly with bits of bone sticking out. It would be cool.
Yes what is up with that whole Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. shit anyways? We get no explanations. Only forcefed strange warnings about nothing to see and moving along...
Here is one example:
http://shock-awe.info/archive/000858.php/
Granted it is not the most coherant example, but I do not have the time right now to go digging through google looking for examples of snopes being wrong.
I am not sure how scopes could be right or wrong
If they say that something is False when in reality that thing is True then snopes is wrong.
Clearly not everyone believes Snopes,
Snopes has been wrong about things in the past. Chances are there are things on their site that are wrong right now. Snopes will get things wrong in the future. People act like Snopes is the infallible word of god or something but it is not.
And one day, when *you* get laid, you'll see why it is we prefer chicks to computers
As much as it would be hard for my friends and coworkers to believe, I am not a virgin. Yes I have had sex and I still tend to prefer computers to girls.
Don't get me wrong. Given the choice between a night with a sparcstation and a night with Natalie Portman I'd choose Natalie Portman anyday. But in reality, sadly, those are not the choices.
In reality I can work my ass off trying to impress some woman and then be forced to spend at least 50% of my limited freetime doing what she wants and I also have to hang out with her idiot friends and talk to her her dumbass family members on holidays and all kinds of other equally abhorrent stuff. And why? So that I can get laid a couple times a week? I've been there and done that and it is just not worth it. I'll take computers.
Now if I could find a girl who was kinda like Marla from Fight Club, then I might change my mind about girls. The problem is that most girls are lamers and the ones who aren't are already taken or wouldn't go out with me anyways.
And the fact is you don't need a girlfriend to gat laid. Get out the Yellow Pages and look under Massage Parlour and go to the ones that have adverts reading "Asian massage" and "Full Service." It'll cost you about one C-note plus a twenty dollar tip and most of the chicks are hot.
My thoughts exactly. Chances are, any so-called geek that has a girlfriend is way too pussywhipped to engage any longer in true geekdom.
Seriously. Every geek that I've known who gets a girlfriend seems to stop being a geek after that. Sure they may still work in IT or be majoring in CS or whatever. Sure they may still spend hours a day programming, reading SF and playing video games. And they probably still call themself a geek. But it is like when they get a GF something dies inside them. They no longer seem quite as hardcore.
In the worst scenerios, it's when a geek gets a GF and starts acting better than all of his former friends. Like when you ask him to come over on friday night to hang out in the parents basement and play AD&D and he gets all snooty and says "Heh! I've got a giiirrrlfriend now. I can't hang out with yooouuu guys on friday. I have to take my giirrlfriend to the movies." Fucking fuckwitted scumfucks.
Yuk. I have tried to live off of Ramen noodles (called Romulen noodles around these parts) and after a week or so it is really difficult to force the stuff down. You get hungry as hell but you just stay hungry because the thought of eating more of those nasty noodles makes you want to vomit.
Only poseurs have girlfriends.
(That line was blatently stolen and mutilated from the movie SLC Punk. I believe the original line was "only poseurs fall in love.")
This guys predictions for the year 2014 are a joke.
I predict that in 2014 things won't be changed all that much. Change happens but the kind of change that this guy is talking about will take a hell of a lot longer than ten years. I'd say that 2024 at the earliest for most of his predictions, but realistically I think that most of them won't come about untill 2034 and some not until even later than that. The infrastructure is just not there for most of what he talks about.
I clicked on your link. Is this what I was supposed to get??
Microsoft (R) Windows 2000 (TM) Version 5.00
(Build 2195)
Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Client
Telnet Client Build 5.00.99206.1
Escape Character is 'CTRL+]'
Microsoft Telnet>
NO!! HIRE ME!!!
Please Do Not Throw Sausage Pizza Away.
All People Seem To Need Data Processing.
I don't think that they are judging someone by the operating system they use. I think that they are judging the operating system by the people who use it.
I spit on your grave
What? I spit on your grave was great! I actually got the new Anniversery edition that has a special audio track with Joe Bob Briggs doing an MST3K kind of voiceover making fun of the movie. Unlike MST3K, Joe Bob is a little less politically correct. Like for instance; when one of the rednecks is raping the girl, Joe Bob says "Hey look at that guy! He's doing the hurdy-gurdy between that girls legs!" Well... I guess you'd have to see it. It is funny though. If you are a fan of MST3K then I'd recommend picking up the I Spit On Your Grave anniversery edition with Joe Bob Briggs.
I can't see the advantage of using a palm over using a small notebook (12" ibook or powerbook for example)
Well, cost is obviously a factor. I can get a nice PDA for less $300.00. The same cannot be said for a 12" ibook.
Plus that ibook won't fit in your pocket the way a PDA will. People just say "carry the ibook in a bag." Well I don't want to carry a fscking bag with me wherever I go! Plus while I'm standing on a bus or in the subway I can pull out my PDA and mess with it for a few minutes and slip it back in my pocket. An ibook would just be too unwieldy to unzip the bag, pull out the ibook and open it up and wait for it to boot and preferably find a place to sit with it because I assume that using an ibook standing up is awkward...etc.
I like ibooks. I like PDA's. They are just two completely diferent devices suited to different tasks. An ibook gives you a lot of portability. A PDA gives you a hell of a lot more portability with a much cheaper price tag but with a reduced feature set. With the addition of things like WiFi and keyboards (ala the Sharp Zaurus) I find PDA's looking much more attractive.
Arent' these Reloading apps similar to DOS apps?
I know that you really mean DoS apps. Seriously, you call them DOS apps and idiots will think you are talking about fscking MS-DOS.
Somewhat maybe related... In high school we had those fire alarms that have the handle that you pull down to trigger the alarm. Well, as one of my unlucky (and stupid) friends found out; when you pulled the alarm a big blast of marking dye shot out covering your hand, arm, torso, face and everything else with a blue/black stain that was almost impossible to wash off. Needless to say he was found and busted within minutes of pulling the alarm.
And yes, before anyone replys to this, I realize that Linus's wife is the six-time Finnish national Karate champion. I am not dissing her. I am just saying that in general the whole belt system is stupid and should be treated with a large grain of salt.
but his wife is a black belt
Any dumbass can go down to the local strip mall karateka once or twice a week for a few years and end up with a black belt. It doesn't mean shit. Hell, the YMCA near where I live has courses that allow you to "become a certified black belt in only 2 weeks!" The whole belt ranking system in martial arts is no different than the stupid MCSE certifications in the IT world.
Rather than complain and fret about the potential evil uses to which it can be put, the sensible person would welcome it as yet another useful tool in their security arsenal.
You completely missed my point. I said I am not against full disclosure or the dissemation of security tools. I think that tools like metasploit can be very valuable. What I was saying was that the inclusion of the VNC server payload was irresponsible. I don't see the point in the metasploit team creating and including this payload. That is my point.
Did you also whine about "nmap"?
WTF are you talking about? Didn't I say "I am not against full disclosure or the dissemation of security tools?!" My problem is that I don't understand the point with them creating this specific payload and nobody seems to give me a valid explanation why they did it. I mean if you are vulnerable to the exploit that this payload uses then that's all you need to know, why include a payload like this? Why not just release the exploit with a payload that is already being used, why introduce new payloads into the wild?
My college isn't even deploying SP2 on their new faculty/staff desktop builds.
Good for them! They would be idiots to deploy it on production machines before it has had a little bit of burn in time to find out what software it breaks, what bugs it introduces, etc.
Your logic ultimately falls back to "security through obscurity".
No. My logic is simply that creating an extremely easy to use cracking tool and including things like a "VNC server" as a payload (which would be of limited use for pen testing but would be very useful for the kiddies) is simply not aresponsible thing to do. Just because someone else could possibly make and distribute similar payloads isn't an excuse to just say "well, someone else might do it anyways so we might as well do it."
Yes, I do believe that the much maligned concept of "security through obscurity" is not a bad idea and can be quite useful as long as it is not your only line of defense. When you choose not to list your main email addy all over the net so that spammers don't get it, that is an example of security through obscurity but no one ever says that is a bad idea.
There is no reason to include a VNC server payload like this. Those legitimate security professionals who use Metasploit for pen testing should have the skills to create their own VNC payload, if they actually have a use for it. To include it ready made, point and click, easy to use like this just makes it that much easier for the script kiddiots out there.
I am not against full disclosure or the dissemation of security tools I just happen to think that for every one security pro who uses this tool for good there will be a hundred script kiddies who use it for causing havoc. Rather than make life easier for the good guys this will just make it that much more difficult.