If you'd the guts to post other than anonymously I'd answer your criticisms and explain my point further. Otherwise I shall just write you off as a troll, getting personal without the guts to afford me the same privilege...
Hmmm, an academic who swears in such an article and whose homepage reads as follows: "Welcome, I work at the Department of Computer Science, University of Bristol, were I happen to be a reader."
The context was already established by the thread: a CV. Maybe you're used to IT positions where a hundred CVs are submitted electronically and all most of them do is list programming languages and hobbies on a single page, but I have an academic CV and, yes, its representation on paper in clearly defined (and paginated) sections is all important.
Now don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that HTML doesn't have its uses as a pseudo-format: just recently I was pressured towards OO.org to prepare a simple table of conference participants with a colleague and I said, as you're suggesting: I don't need a new format and to be forced to use your favourite software, HTML is fine for the job.
All the same, though, HTML is the anachronism: a cut-down crippled version of SGML to fit early-nineties workstations! Neither a logical nor a presentation format: it can neither effectively be used for long term maintenance of a document, nor its exchange when consistent presentation is important (not just books - articles, real CVs, contracts etc. etc.)
It seems to concentrate on shoveling money from governments (US included) into it's bank even after reaping the benefits of public funded open software.
I don't know much about research funding in the US, but I am active in UK and EU Computing research and here showing potential commercial benefit to local industry is a must for getting research funded.
I don't know if you've ever considered the revenue generated from having the desktop operating system monopoly being developed in the US, but perhaps you should...
Two posters have already given this information and the slap in the face to the moderator who called this 'funny'. All the same, though, after my client automatically updated itself to this stuff via torrent (which I thought was pretty neat), it tried to download platform-specific support and plug-ins in two seperate further torrents and this is failing. Anyone else have same?
Yes, because as we all know, El Reg never shows their opinion in their news stories...
At least they often/usually qualify comments that are opinion and, more importantly, are accountable on it. The Slashdot editors (generalising) completely ignore feedback and have no standards of impartiality in the first place.
If you want absolute printing positions, which is what the format's meant for, then forms are always going to have this problem.
Fundamentally what you're saying is that the type-setting language isn't the place to do forms, the document preparation language is. But as we also know, there's no standard for that (WordPerfect for lawyers, OpenOffice for some in public administration, Word for most of the rest of us).
I'm not interested in the opinion of the submitter [...] you hurt the bloggers fight for acceptance as part of the media when you post stuff like this
Come on now, the only people I know that give any credence to bloggers in the first place are themselves and the odd 'traditional' media-related reporter without a clue (e.g. The Guardian's Media Online section in the UK).
If I actually want to see technology news, rather than opinion from the off, I read The Register and New Scientist, not this place re-hashing their stories!
Regarding the separation of side effect from pure functional behaviour; yes, this is accomodated in type theory. Presumably this could be applied to aspects if these were themselves being applied to a sensible modern language (meaning one which developed on higher-order function composition, not its poor imperative cousin you're stuck with).
I'm guessing though that your belief that GOTOs are only syntactic, and without semantic consequences, implies that it's not worth pointing you to, for instance, the Haskell semantics...
I see folks calling this proposal "draconian." It sounds to me, and I did NOT RTFA as of this post, that a max. 3 year sentence is not so much OVERKILL and DRACONIAN as it is a DETERRANT to those who might think about violating the law.
Much like, I believe, the death penalty is a deterrent in your country - no murders and hence no executions... right?
True, the story had only been up on the BBC News site since early this morning (in UK, i.e. eight hours before this was posted), but the news had been already been long released officially; it was in The Guardian this morning...
Not that I think Java is the ideal example of a modern programming language (far from it), but this trend towards 'lean' scripting languages where almost every bit of rubbish you can write is executable, and every bit of code you look back at (even your own code two days later) looks like rubbish is really troubling.
Is it just because there are more and more people writing code who've never had to work on maintaing large-scale software?
Can I have your autograph? The impact of this story has just blown me away and you, sir, are my hero!
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Way to back up your argument - out of 7 non-circular (i.e. self-referential) definitions, only two don't mention programming: '5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in 'a Unix hacker' completely ignores that a Unix expert is, by definition, a shell script programmer, and ' 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example.' is so general no one could take it seriously - 'astronomy hacker'?? Anyway, I have to get to work, I hope the bus hacker is on time this morning!
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If you'd the guts to post other than anonymously I'd answer your criticisms and explain my point further. Otherwise I shall just write you off as a troll, getting personal without the guts to afford me the same privilege...
Hmmm, an academic who swears in such an article and whose homepage reads as follows: "Welcome, I work at the Department of Computer Science, University of Bristol, were I happen to be a reader."
The context was already established by the thread: a CV. Maybe you're used to IT positions where a hundred CVs are submitted electronically and all most of them do is list programming languages and hobbies on a single page, but I have an academic CV and, yes, its representation on paper in clearly defined (and paginated) sections is all important.
Now don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that HTML doesn't have its uses as a pseudo-format: just recently I was pressured towards OO.org to prepare a simple table of conference participants with a colleague and I said, as you're suggesting: I don't need a new format and to be forced to use your favourite software, HTML is fine for the job.
All the same, though, HTML is the anachronism: a cut-down crippled version of SGML to fit early-nineties workstations! Neither a logical nor a presentation format: it can neither effectively be used for long term maintenance of a document, nor its exchange when consistent presentation is important (not just books - articles, real CVs, contracts etc. etc.)
I don't know if you've ever considered the revenue generated from having the desktop operating system monopoly being developed in the US, but perhaps you should...
Apparently he doesn't care to have any control over pagination and line-wrapping in his CV - he's surely alone in that!
Two posters have already given this information and the slap in the face to the moderator who called this 'funny'. All the same, though, after my client automatically updated itself to this stuff via torrent (which I thought was pretty neat), it tried to download platform-specific support and plug-ins in two seperate further torrents and this is failing. Anyone else have same?
Opinions... I'm not putting them down, I'm interested - just saying that you have to recognise that's what you get here...
If you want absolute printing positions, which is what the format's meant for, then forms are always going to have this problem.
Fundamentally what you're saying is that the type-setting language isn't the place to do forms, the document preparation language is. But as we also know, there's no standard for that (WordPerfect for lawyers, OpenOffice for some in public administration, Word for most of the rest of us).
If I actually want to see technology news, rather than opinion from the off, I read The Register and New Scientist, not this place re-hashing their stories!
I'm guessing though that your belief that GOTOs are only syntactic, and without semantic consequences, implies that it's not worth pointing you to, for instance, the Haskell semantics...
True, the story had only been up on the BBC News site since early this morning (in UK, i.e. eight hours before this was posted), but the news had been already been long released officially; it was in The Guardian this morning...
(I know, I submitted a well-referenced story on this to Slashdot only to have it rejected and see one without the references posted days later!)
Oh well, if a fan site say it they're the authority... never mind checking the BBC!
I liked it even more when I saw it in the anime Martian Successor Nadesico long before...
I think the author was making a stab for 'ruminate', but couldn't quite manage...
Not that I think Java is the ideal example of a modern programming language (far from it), but this trend towards 'lean' scripting languages where almost every bit of rubbish you can write is executable, and every bit of code you look back at (even your own code two days later) looks like rubbish is really troubling.
Is it just because there are more and more people writing code who've never had to work on maintaing large-scale software?
Can I have your autograph? The impact of this story has just blown me away and you, sir, are my hero!
Way to back up your argument - out of 7 non-circular (i.e. self-referential) definitions, only two don't mention programming: '5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in 'a Unix hacker' completely ignores that a Unix expert is, by definition, a shell script programmer, and ' 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example.' is so general no one could take it seriously - 'astronomy hacker'?? Anyway, I have to get to work, I hope the bus hacker is on time this morning!
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