"Do you realize your post is just a categorization of people not believing to the moon landing with no concrete arguments whatsoever?"
I don't need to list "concrete evidence." All the evidence has been presented to you. Yet you refuse to engage your brain. Seriously, what's _wrong_ with you people? In the face of plain evidence on one side, and pottery shards with "alien asshat" inscriptions, you pick the crackpottery.
"But my opinion is off topic to the point I want to make, that is: the only way to deal with conspiracy theorists is to take some of the assertions they use to back their opinion and confute it, post links if you are lazy."
No links that I will ever post will ever convince you or others who think that Apollo 11 through 17 was faked. There are places like www.badastronomy.com, but why bother? It's like trying to explain astronomy to an astrology believer - the disconnect is so wide that it's insurmountable.
"And to burn some karma, baby: Moderation to your post is most moronic."
Whatever. It's obvious that you're one of the people needed to fill out the left side of the IQ bell curve.
-- BMO - "Did you know that the Indians invented the wire recorder?" - Firesign Theatre doing Art Bell 30 years earlier.
"Or maybe they just believe that, you know, the US was unable to get a person to the moon in the 1960s and 1970s. Nothing to do with aliens, pyramids, evolution or creationism, just that they couldn't and didn't do it."
We didn't just magically build a rocket and magically get to the Moon. And Shepard's and Gagarin's flights didn't magically appear either - they were based on 35 years of liquid fuel rocket science started by a geeky guy at his aunt's farm, name of Goddard - perhaps you've heard of him. By 1969, you're talking about 45 years of liquid fuel rocket engineering. Sure, engineering problems cropped up in designing something big enough to get to the Moon but they weren't insurmountable and by that time we had already figured out life support, multiple stage rocketry, reliable engines, computers, and the navigation systems needed to get from here to there and back.
Can you even grok what it would take to pull off a hoaxed moon landing? You need to fool the entire Federal government, thousands of engineers, the entire US Navy, and all the people at places like Lockheed _including their investors_. And throughout all of this, you have to make sure that possibly thousands of people who know "the secret" that they will never talk, even on their deathbeds.
And then you have to fool all the scientists with rocks that can't look like anything found on Earth.
It's just simpler to go to the moon and back. It's like "looking busy" at your employment - it's actually easier to do real work than to fake it.
Even the government most capable of pulling off propaganda by faking a moon landing decided against it. The Soviet Union was a much more closed society and Star City was off limits to foreigners. They were ahead of us, and even got to the Moon before us with robotic probes. The entire far side of the Moon is full of Russian names! They could have staged a landing, and nobody would have been the wiser in the West until the fall of the Soviet Union two decades later. Yet they didn't. Why? BECAUSE IT WAS A STUPID IDEA.
The fact is, the original poster is _just like_ those who believe in pyramid building aliens and creationists because they deny logic, history, human nature and plain evidence of reality. They are uneducable dolts.
"And I say that with zero emotional attachment. Not believing that we went to the moon doesn't give me a membership in a tinfoil-hat brigade."
Maybe not a tinfoil hat wearer (signifying paranoia, really) but you're a card-carrying member of the club of crazies like Erich Von Daniken, scientologists, Richard Hoagland, and creationists.
Why do supposedly smart people believe such stupid shit?
Indeed the posting of this as "we never went there anyway" even as a joke angers me. You'd think that after almost 40 years someone would spill the beans on the supposed secret? Well guess what, THERE WAS NO SECRET TO BE KEPT and even _if_ there was some way to bring idiots like you back in time, put you on a rocket, and land you on the moon, you'd still claim it was a movie set. There is no educating people like you because you will never admit that humanity is ever capable of doing extraordinary things. You'll attribute the Pyramids to space aliens and the Moon landings to fiction instead of the feats that people are capable of.
It's called denying reality, assuming the worst of everyone, and willful stupidity.
"We used to use butter as a staple. The five gallon can of lard/Crisco could be found in nearly any home's pantry. Fat puddings were revered. Colonel Sanders did not invent fried chicken."
Your veggies ain't properly done unless cooked up with some salt pork, old world style.
Do you think any of the people around you, including yourself, might survive such a thing? I seriously doubt it. The mental toughness to do that doesn't exist anymore and those tough enough to do such things are supported by high technology instead of simple woolen clothing, a sailing ship, dogs, and a talented ship's carpenter (who was the real hero).
Modern humans aren't so robust. Take away my asthma meds and I'd be dead in a week.
The faithful gather to worship at the altar of Ballmer in Boston. Perhaps we missed the importance of Microsoft's relationship with its partners. You were quick to set us straight:
I find your lack of faith...disturbing. Microsoft understands the importance of third-party developers, and in fact has opened new markets to some, the anti-virus vendors for example.
No business I have dealt with has ever treated its third-party partners so kindly and solicitously, which Microsoft goes out of its way to do right up to the morning of the day they slip the shiv between the vertebrae.
One of the first communication satellites was the Echo 1, a metalized mylar inflated sphere...back in 1960.
It was large - lightly over 30 meters in diameter. It stayed in orbit for 8 years and was visible to the naked eye as a very bright star. The advantages were wide bandwith and low cost, but the disadvantage was high signal loss.
Echo II was an improved version, with better sphericity and reflectivity, boosting performance, but passive sats were no longer sexy and NASA abandoned them for active satellites.
Like the other guy said, radar, lidar, but also add navigation and land surveying. Longitude is determined by time difference between UTC and local time. If you make this clock small enough, and replace the current constellation of GPS satellites with new ones based on this type of clock, you increase the resolution.
"Funny that you mention dresses. When I was 18, I started a dress-making company specializing in movie gown reproduction, "
That's because I saw it in your profile, so I figured it'd be a good metaphor to use.:-P
Knock-offs that follow a basic theme are legal, but direct copies are not, and are ruled "counterfeit". It's always a matter of how different the knock-off is. The FTC every once in a while attempts to make a big deal of it, seizing shipments of counterfeit watches and handbags. My point was that part of what's going on is that an exact copy is being made with certain parts snipped out, which is illegal with regards to copyright if the person doing the editing doesn't have the right to copy.
"As I said regarding altering business practices, simply saying that editted versions shouldn't be made is like talking to a tree stump. "
I agree, and the studios would be good to offer edited versions, as apparently there is a demand.
What I disagree with is that the editing companies themselves have been simply violating copyright as a matter of expediency. They didn't own the DVDs, and they didn't have the right to copy them into different versions. Now if the studios sold _licenses_ to these companies, this would have all been avoided.
There is the sticking point that some of these directors (Spielberg, etc) are powerful enough to put in their contracts "don't bowdlerize or else" provisions, and the studios will simply have to deal with it.
Copyright matters. It's the one thing that allows the GPL, GPL, Creative Commons and the rest of the Open Source licenses to exist, so I'm not coming down on the side of the studios simply because I'm a "big media" fan, which I am definitely not.
Well, technically they are. After all is said and done, what exists are two copies - the bowdlerized version and the unexpurgated version and they are selling the bowdlerized one. The companies that do this do not have the right to make the copies, since they do not own the DVDs and it's not fair use. It would be fair use if the individual customers were doing the editing themselves, but that's not what's happening.
To top it off, the companies that do this are not merely one-off editing. As they get movies, they make a copy for storage for the _next_ customer that comes along, so really there are 3 copies. Original, Bowdlerized, and Archived Bowdlerized. It as if a tailor had taken one of your dresses, Copied it, Altered the copy, and kept a copy in the back room and instead of tailoring each individual dress as it comes along, simply reproducing the copy for the next customer.
"what worried me about the format war wasn't the pissing match between geeks over what's the best"
My point was that there are format wars all over the place and not just in consumer electronics. Indeed, format wars are the rule rather than the exception.
That there are format wars in electronics should not be surprising.
So I got modded "offtopic" twice by moderators that don't have a clue. Well, I've got more karma than you've got mod points, idiots.
The following will generate a flamewar in rec.bicycles.tech that go on for months:
Shimano or Campagnolo? What about mechanical vs hydraulic disc brakes? Caliper, Cantilever, Centerpull, Coaster, disc, Double pivot, Drum, Roller, Rollercam, Roller lever, Sidepull, Single pivot, Spoon brakes? Low spoke count wheels vs 32 or 36 count? Tubular or Clincher tires? What about Tufo? Octalink or square taper spindle? British, Italian, French, Swiss, or Raleigh threading? 130 vs 110 mm BHC? Hook or no hook rims? Does a wheel hang by its spokes or stand on its spokes? Disc wheels or spoked wheels? Hard Anodizing or plain? Does hard anodizing weaken aluminum?
"Linux users! They can't benefit from this antagonism;)"
Hey, I didn't even know that DirectRevenue even existed except for this dupe (I missed the original).
I am torn. Vista is supposedly going to have better security (heh) than XP (chuckle) and I'm sort of rooting for it to be successful in that regard if simply to put the malware and spyware hosers out of "bidness." But then we're talking "Microsoft" and "security" in the same sentence, like some other poster mentioned "Ethics Department of Sudan." Microsoft will market Vista being the "most secure Windows ever" in spite of the fact that we'll probably see more of the likes of DirectRevenue than less.
By this time next year, I'll probably still be fixing friends' shitware infected Vista systems, if Vista ever comes out.
Of course, Microsoft had nothing to do with it when they threw money at Corel, and when Corel stopped making WordPerfect for Linux, they promptly divested./cough/spit/
Corel Linux was a mistake, when they could have simply continued to sell WP for Linux (I still have the boxed set for 8.0!). It's not like they didn't have an existing code base that worked in X.
As much as I like WP, if they come up with yet another Wine based WP instead of native, I and a lot of others will simply stay away in droves.
God bless you, Dwight D. Eisenhower As I stand next to the truck stop shower Watching our bright destiny unfold Now your highway rolls from here to gone This land we've laid our hands upon And sir, it's a sight to behold
So God bless you, Dwight D. Eisenhower Though this is not our finest hour Highway men have made off with your creed And the band is marching no matter what The eyes of history are shut This is the hour of our deepest need
Oh and the wind howls Oh and the wind howls Oh the wind howls Through the fields of Abilene
So God bless you, Dwight D. Eisenhower As now the youth in all their flower Hang on the iron cross you warned us of And they say you wept to hang them so You among us all might know These things we sometimes do for love Oh God, these things we do for love
Oh and the wind howls mmm, and the wind howls Oh the wind howls Through the fields of Abilene.
mmm, and the wind howls Oh the wind howls The wind howls Through the fields of Abilene.
That's not what I meant. I meant that it was a cultural thing, irrespective of the facts. Plastic cases are more durable in the long run if built correctly, but you couldn't tell that to someone in 1965 who just dropped his brand-new Sony transistor radio.
"That Olivetti unit looks like it was made 20 years later..."
Probably because the Olivetti extensively used plastic or die-cast white metal in the case. If you look at the old ugly stuff like the KSR, the cases were _steel_ which is why they look so bland. You can't get the same shapes by stamping steel like you can with plastic-injection molding or die-casting and the style of the Olivetti simply screams "molded parts".
Back then it was a cultural thing. Plastic was "cheap" and steel meant quality. If the case wasn't heavy enough to kill someone with, it wasn't quality.
"Isn't it the rubber in the tires that does the good though? Not so much the metal frame?"
The electricity travels along the surface in what is called "skin effect". The electricity follows the outside of the vehicle to ground. However, this does not work if your car has a fiberglas or plastic body. Saturn and Corvette owners are hosed.
The rubber in the tires does nothing, just like "teh googles."
"Why's that?"
Why crouch? Because lightning will travel along the ground. If you lay flat, it increases the chance of electricity flowing through your body if there is a nearby strike. If you crouch, only your feet are touching the ground.
All that said, my original post was a bit silly and I didn't expect a 5.:-P
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"Do you realize your post is just a categorization of people not believing to the moon landing with no concrete arguments whatsoever?"
I don't need to list "concrete evidence." All the evidence has been presented to you. Yet you refuse to engage your brain. Seriously, what's _wrong_ with you people? In the face of plain evidence on one side, and pottery shards with "alien asshat" inscriptions, you pick the crackpottery.
"But my opinion is off topic to the point I want to make, that is: the only way to deal with conspiracy theorists is to take some of the assertions they use to back their opinion and confute it, post links if you are lazy."
No links that I will ever post will ever convince you or others who think that Apollo 11 through 17 was faked. There are places like www.badastronomy.com, but why bother? It's like trying to explain astronomy to an astrology believer - the disconnect is so wide that it's insurmountable.
"And to burn some karma, baby: Moderation to your post is most moronic."
Whatever. It's obvious that you're one of the people needed to fill out the left side of the IQ bell curve.
--
BMO - "Did you know that the Indians invented the wire recorder?" - Firesign Theatre doing Art Bell 30 years earlier.
"Or maybe they just believe that, you know, the US was unable to get a person to the moon in the 1960s and 1970s. Nothing to do with aliens, pyramids, evolution or creationism, just that they couldn't and didn't do it."
We didn't just magically build a rocket and magically get to the Moon. And Shepard's and Gagarin's flights didn't magically appear either - they were based on 35 years of liquid fuel rocket science started by a geeky guy at his aunt's farm, name of Goddard - perhaps you've heard of him. By 1969, you're talking about 45 years of liquid fuel rocket engineering. Sure, engineering problems cropped up in designing something big enough to get to the Moon but they weren't insurmountable and by that time we had already figured out life support, multiple stage rocketry, reliable engines, computers, and the navigation systems needed to get from here to there and back.
Can you even grok what it would take to pull off a hoaxed moon landing? You need to fool the entire Federal government, thousands of engineers, the entire US Navy, and all the people at places like Lockheed _including their investors_. And throughout all of this, you have to make sure that possibly thousands of people who know "the secret" that they will never talk, even on their deathbeds.
And then you have to fool all the scientists with rocks that can't look like anything found on Earth.
It's just simpler to go to the moon and back. It's like "looking busy" at your employment - it's actually easier to do real work than to fake it.
Even the government most capable of pulling off propaganda by faking a moon landing decided against it. The Soviet Union was a much more closed society and Star City was off limits to foreigners. They were ahead of us, and even got to the Moon before us with robotic probes. The entire far side of the Moon is full of Russian names! They could have staged a landing, and nobody would have been the wiser in the West until the fall of the Soviet Union two decades later. Yet they didn't. Why? BECAUSE IT WAS A STUPID IDEA.
The fact is, the original poster is _just like_ those who believe in pyramid building aliens and creationists because they deny logic, history, human nature and plain evidence of reality. They are uneducable dolts.
--
BMO
"And I say that with zero emotional attachment. Not believing that we went to the moon doesn't give me a membership in a tinfoil-hat brigade."
Maybe not a tinfoil hat wearer (signifying paranoia, really) but you're a card-carrying member of the club of crazies like Erich Von Daniken, scientologists, Richard Hoagland, and creationists.
Why do supposedly smart people believe such stupid shit?
Indeed the posting of this as "we never went there anyway" even as a joke angers me. You'd think that after almost 40 years someone would spill the beans on the supposed secret? Well guess what, THERE WAS NO SECRET TO BE KEPT and even _if_ there was some way to bring idiots like you back in time, put you on a rocket, and land you on the moon, you'd still claim it was a movie set. There is no educating people like you because you will never admit that humanity is ever capable of doing extraordinary things. You'll attribute the Pyramids to space aliens and the Moon landings to fiction instead of the feats that people are capable of.
It's called denying reality, assuming the worst of everyone, and willful stupidity.
--
BMO
Modded troll? Ahahaha, I have metamoderation! Moderator gets spanking!
This _should_ be seriously added to NH.
--
BMO
"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels; bring home for Emma"
Best. Book. Evah.
--
BMO - tents mended here
"We used to use butter as a staple. The five gallon can of lard/Crisco could be found in nearly any home's pantry. Fat puddings were revered. Colonel Sanders did not invent fried chicken."
Your veggies ain't properly done unless cooked up with some salt pork, old world style.
--
BMO
My gawd, look at the people around you, and then see THIS movie:
The Endurance: Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition (2001)
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/preview/1808403906
Do you think any of the people around you, including yourself, might survive such a thing? I seriously doubt it. The mental toughness to do that doesn't exist anymore and those tough enough to do such things are supported by high technology instead of simple woolen clothing, a sailing ship, dogs, and a talented ship's carpenter (who was the real hero).
Modern humans aren't so robust. Take away my asthma meds and I'd be dead in a week.
--
BMO
"Could be me, but I find it hilarious that SCO accuses another company of smoke-and-mirror tactics."
In psychological terms, it's called projection.
--
BMO
This letter to The Reg sums it up quite nicely.
Letters:
The faithful gather to worship at the altar of Ballmer in Boston. Perhaps we missed the importance of Microsoft's relationship with its partners. You were quick to set us straight:
I find your lack of faith...disturbing. Microsoft understands the importance of third-party developers, and in fact has opened new markets to some, the anti-virus vendors for example.
No business I have dealt with has ever treated its third-party partners so kindly and solicitously, which Microsoft goes out of its way to do right up to the morning of the day they slip the shiv between the vertebrae.
Gumby
One of the first communication satellites was the Echo 1, a metalized mylar inflated sphere...back in 1960.
It was large - lightly over 30 meters in diameter. It stayed in orbit for 8 years and was visible to the naked eye as a very bright star. The advantages were wide bandwith and low cost, but the disadvantage was high signal loss.
Echo II was an improved version, with better sphericity and reflectivity, boosting performance, but passive sats were no longer sexy and NASA abandoned them for active satellites.
--
BMO
Like the other guy said, radar, lidar, but also add navigation and land surveying. Longitude is determined by time difference between UTC and local time. If you make this clock small enough, and replace the current constellation of GPS satellites with new ones based on this type of clock, you increase the resolution.
--
BMO
"Funny that you mention dresses. When I was 18, I started a dress-making company specializing in movie gown reproduction, "
:-P
That's because I saw it in your profile, so I figured it'd be a good metaphor to use.
Knock-offs that follow a basic theme are legal, but direct copies are not, and are ruled "counterfeit". It's always a matter of how different the knock-off is. The FTC every once in a while attempts to make a big deal of it, seizing shipments of counterfeit watches and handbags. My point was that part of what's going on is that an exact copy is being made with certain parts snipped out, which is illegal with regards to copyright if the person doing the editing doesn't have the right to copy.
"As I said regarding altering business practices, simply saying that editted versions shouldn't be made is like talking to a tree stump. "
I agree, and the studios would be good to offer edited versions, as apparently there is a demand.
What I disagree with is that the editing companies themselves have been simply violating copyright as a matter of expediency. They didn't own the DVDs, and they didn't have the right to copy them into different versions. Now if the studios sold _licenses_ to these companies, this would have all been avoided.
There is the sticking point that some of these directors (Spielberg, etc) are powerful enough to put in their contracts "don't bowdlerize or else" provisions, and the studios will simply have to deal with it.
Copyright matters. It's the one thing that allows the GPL, GPL, Creative Commons and the rest of the Open Source licenses to exist, so I'm not coming down on the side of the studios simply because I'm a "big media" fan, which I am definitely not.
--
BMO
That's exactly where I got it.
Sheldon rules.
--
BMO
"but they aren't making copies for sale"
Well, technically they are. After all is said and done, what exists are two copies - the bowdlerized version and the unexpurgated version and they are selling the bowdlerized one. The companies that do this do not have the right to make the copies, since they do not own the DVDs and it's not fair use. It would be fair use if the individual customers were doing the editing themselves, but that's not what's happening.
To top it off, the companies that do this are not merely one-off editing. As they get movies, they make a copy for storage for the _next_ customer that comes along, so really there are 3 copies. Original, Bowdlerized, and Archived Bowdlerized. It as if a tailor had taken one of your dresses, Copied it, Altered the copy, and kept a copy in the back room and instead of tailoring each individual dress as it comes along, simply reproducing the copy for the next customer.
--
BMO
"what worried me about the format war wasn't the pissing match between geeks over what's the best"
My point was that there are format wars all over the place and not just in consumer electronics. Indeed, format wars are the rule rather than the exception.
That there are format wars in electronics should not be surprising.
So I got modded "offtopic" twice by moderators that don't have a clue. Well, I've got more karma than you've got mod points, idiots.
--
BMO
"I'm going out for a bicycle ride."
Holy crap, one format war to another!
The following will generate a flamewar in rec.bicycles.tech that go on for months:
Shimano or Campagnolo?
What about mechanical vs hydraulic disc brakes?
Caliper, Cantilever, Centerpull, Coaster, disc, Double pivot, Drum, Roller, Rollercam, Roller lever, Sidepull, Single pivot, Spoon brakes?
Low spoke count wheels vs 32 or 36 count?
Tubular or Clincher tires? What about Tufo?
Octalink or square taper spindle?
British, Italian, French, Swiss, or Raleigh threading?
130 vs 110 mm BHC?
Hook or no hook rims?
Does a wheel hang by its spokes or stand on its spokes?
Disc wheels or spoked wheels?
Hard Anodizing or plain? Does hard anodizing weaken aluminum?
And that's just to start.
--
BMO
"Linux users! They can't benefit from this antagonism ;)"
Hey, I didn't even know that DirectRevenue even existed except for this dupe (I missed the original).
I am torn. Vista is supposedly going to have better security (heh) than XP (chuckle) and I'm sort of rooting for it to be successful in that regard if simply to put the malware and spyware hosers out of "bidness." But then we're talking "Microsoft" and "security" in the same sentence, like some other poster mentioned "Ethics Department of Sudan." Microsoft will market Vista being the "most secure Windows ever" in spite of the fact that we'll probably see more of the likes of DirectRevenue than less.
By this time next year, I'll probably still be fixing friends' shitware infected Vista systems, if Vista ever comes out.
--
BMO
"Royal Bank of Canada, where do I know that name? Oh right, incompetence and SCO investments a plenty. Microsoft is in good hands, no really!"
It gets even better for the conspiracy nut
||three years ago from the Royal Bank of Canada||
3 years ago?
Which would put that, what, at the beginning of the SCO/Caldera scam^W lawsuit?
RBC, Baystar, Microsoft - thick as thieves.
--
BMO
Microsoft is a founding member of the BSA
Microsoft collects all this information about your computer, including what is being run.
Microsoft then...leaks/gives this information to the BSA.
BSA makes a list, checks it twice, finds out who's naughty or nice
(whether it is true or not)
BSA auditors are coming to town!
--
BMO
Of course, Microsoft had nothing to do with it when they threw money at Corel, and when Corel stopped making WordPerfect for Linux, they promptly divested. /cough/spit/
Corel Linux was a mistake, when they could have simply continued to sell WP for Linux (I still have the boxed set for 8.0!). It's not like they didn't have an existing code base that worked in X.
As much as I like WP, if they come up with yet another Wine based WP instead of native, I and a lot of others will simply stay away in droves.
--
BMO
Peter Mulvey "Eisenhower Waltz"
God bless you, Dwight D. Eisenhower
As I stand next to the truck stop shower
Watching our bright destiny unfold
Now your highway rolls from here to gone
This land we've laid our hands upon
And sir, it's a sight to behold
So God bless you, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Though this is not our finest hour
Highway men have made off with your creed
And the band is marching no matter what
The eyes of history are shut
This is the hour of our deepest need
Oh and the wind howls
Oh and the wind howls
Oh the wind howls
Through the fields of Abilene
So God bless you, Dwight D. Eisenhower
As now the youth in all their flower
Hang on the iron cross you warned us of
And they say you wept to hang them so
You among us all might know
These things we sometimes do for love
Oh God, these things we do for love
Oh and the wind howls
mmm, and the wind howls
Oh the wind howls
Through the fields of Abilene.
mmm, and the wind howls
Oh the wind howls
The wind howls
Through the fields of Abilene.
"Don't you know who our President is?"
The President of the US _IS_ named Schckelgruber!
--
BMO - Shoes for Industry!
That's not what I meant. I meant that it was a cultural thing, irrespective of the facts. Plastic cases are more durable in the long run if built correctly, but you couldn't tell that to someone in 1965 who just dropped his brand-new Sony transistor radio.
--
BMO
"That Olivetti unit looks like it was made 20 years later..."
Probably because the Olivetti extensively used plastic or die-cast white metal in the case. If you look at the old ugly stuff like the KSR, the cases were _steel_ which is why they look so bland. You can't get the same shapes by stamping steel like you can with plastic-injection molding or die-casting and the style of the Olivetti simply screams "molded parts".
Back then it was a cultural thing. Plastic was "cheap" and steel meant quality. If the case wasn't heavy enough to kill someone with, it wasn't quality.
--
BMO
"Isn't it the rubber in the tires that does the good though? Not so much the metal frame?"
The electricity travels along the surface in what is called "skin effect". The electricity follows the outside of the vehicle to ground. However, this does not work if your car has a fiberglas or plastic body. Saturn and Corvette owners are hosed.
The rubber in the tires does nothing, just like "teh googles."
"Why's that?"
Why crouch? Because lightning will travel along the ground. If you lay flat, it increases the chance of electricity flowing through your body if there is a nearby strike. If you crouch, only your feet are touching the ground.
All that said, my original post was a bit silly and I didn't expect a 5.
--
BMO