OpenBSD - Concerned that your fringe religion was becoming too currupted by temptation(and also because you were kicked out), you've decided to start your own cult.
It has its own armed compound straddling the border of Montana and Canada - Montana for the guns, Canada for the drugs. Your cult memebers obsessively analyze the compound's perimiter for weakness, knowing that evil "scripture kiddies" will try to get in and destroy your land of purity. None have gotten through for seven years. You know also that the government is out to get you, so every time a black helicopter flies near, a burst of gunfire warns them away.
Your followers are fanatical to the extreme and will bite the hand off of anyone who dares to say that their license is not free. Five times a day, they face in the direction of the holy land and chant, "There is no BSD but OpenBSD. There is no freedom but the BSD license. May God strike down the abominations of the GPL."
NetBSD - The fringe religion that OpenBSD came from. Like Unitarians, you don't really stand for anything, choosing to accomodate any processsor family that needs a kernel. Your quiet, hippieish ways does not create the devotion of the other BSDs, and your religion is doomed to be obscure forever. Your followers don't go out of their way to castigate the GPL heretics or the Windows infidels, choosing to "live and let live". If the Rapture comes and the BSD Daemon comes forth to cast judgement upon the geeks of the world, he will say unto NetBSD users, "Oh, are you still here? I, uh, guess you're saved". Hallelujah!
FreeBSD - A dead religion, which no one practices anymore. Netcraft confirms it.
I think you forgot the part about "training on an remote Chinese mountaintop, with the guidance of an elderly master of the ancient secret art of install-fu on a TRaSh-80."
Once you have mastered the art of installing what cannot be installed, you may return to RedHat or even Caldera and be content to know that all is vanity, all is illusion.
Oh nos! What if the Dept. of Homeland Security finds out about my G4 Cube or my GameCube?! I'll be branded a terrorist and sent to Gitmo before you can say TimeCube!
Hey, maybe if we told them Osama was building cheap knockoff Rubik's Cubes, they'll get off their ass and catch him:P
The Suicide Girls concept is about sharing the self-actualization of women in Portland's post-punk subculture. .... I've met a couple of the suicide girls here in Portland, nice people, very real.
... and people wonder why I want to move back to Portland? Between this, microbrews, Open Source Dev. Lab and medical marijuana, what more could I ask for?
Aside from sunlight, I mean.
Hawt, pale, sun-deprived punk-goth chicks of Portland, watch out! I'm coming to the Promised Land!
You go and put that png on your work desktop, then. We'll see how long you keep your job.
Again, I am not turned on by that image at all, it's just too fucking saccharine. I can imagine them singing "Kumbaiya" while hugging each other.
Besides, why would I want that shit on my desktop? Tell me with a straight face that it looks good - not that it's 'acceptable', tell me that it actually looks good, and that you would put it on your desktop if you found it on the web.
You can't can you? That is some of the ugliest wallpaper I've seen.
Here are the images from the thread, and I agree with you. What sort of a fucked up world do we live in, where we can show images of people killing other people, but not of 3 people caring for each other.
What sort of fucked up world do we live in when an OS tries to force social ideology on its users? I get annnoyed with the license puritanism of the Debian folks, but at least it makes sense for them to be like that. Why are the Ubuntu folks trying to put their social beliefs on my desktop?
Your comment does not make sense. By 'caring', you must mean 'fucking', because last time I checked, caring does not require nudity, fucking does. And what the fuck do you mean 'we can show images of people killing people'? People killing other people would be even less apropriate than nudity, and if Ubuntu had shipped *that*, there would be a hell of a lot more complaints. But way to go making gross generalizations about people who are 'prudes'.
...and before you respond that I'm a prude, let me tell you that I've seen porn that will probobly curl your toes and grow hair on your chest. I've laughed in the face(or rear) of Goatse Man. And I still wouldn't like that Ubuntu wallpaper on my desktop. The things looks like a fucking Calvin Klein or Gap ad. They're tacky. And while I like pictures of people naked, the Ubuntu pics have a strange vibe about them. The people are in obviously sexual situations and pretending that they're not, they're just having good clean fun(doing what?)...
And then there's the issue of why the rest of the world would not like them. There is the obvious issue of nudity. Even in liberal societies, that sort of thing is not going to fly on a corporate workstation, let alone the school's. Then there are the other, ahem, social contexts...
Let's see, in the pictures, we have - a white man, a white woman, and a black woman. There are very few places in the world where such a combination of people would be considered acceptable, mostly in urban centers of the U.S. and Europe. Even without the racial overtones, the fact that there's 3 of them would put it off the acceptability scale in most of the world.
If you're going to respond that they should be more accepting, fuck you. Why the hell should an OS be dictating social mores to them to begin with?
Let me ask you a simple question - can you think of any other OS that installed a background that had *people* in it, clothed or not? I know neither Windows nor Mac has. The reason OSes traditionally don't install pics of people is that they would be too distracting, and their identity would become too personalized in the image of the models. For branding reasons alone, Ubuntu should avoid using the 3-way interracial fuckfest.
This sounds like an idea from David Brin(author of 'The Postman'), called "The Transparent Society", from a book of the same name. Basically, he says that the powers-that-be will always have the power to snoop on the ordinary people, so there is no point in advocating privacy; all you get is an false feeling of security, and you give those in power a cloak of secrecy.
Instead, he says that we shoud remove privacy from everyone, and let the public see what others are doing - basically, have everyone watch everyone else. The point of that is supposedly that it would keep corruption down and stop the rich and powerful from abusing their power.
Now, I don't say that I agree with Brin, but I just thought the idea of people going around broadcasting live video of everyone to keep the cops in check sounded like somthing Brin would like.
I doubt that the protest idea would work, though. People don't care about brutality if they think that the police are acting in their interest and there is even a chance of violence from the protesters. Remember how all the violence from the police at the WTO protesets was justified by a dozen 'anachists' defacing a Nike store? Or how much of America feels that it's "better safe than sorry" regarding Guantanamo and Abu Gharib?
Watching the watchers only matters when the public gives a damn that the watchers are brutal.
Interesting project, I have been thinking of trying it out because I use Debian, but would appreciate something that isn't so much "everything and the kitchen sink"-like. However, I am worried about the fact that you use a different apt repository and you don't recomment mixing Ubuntu and Debian packages. One thing I definitely like about Debian is the amount of testing they go through, and I was wondering about how many volunteer developers you have, and how much time you spend on testing the distro?
On a completely different note, do you have any radically different philosophies regarding user interfaces than other distros? All or most 'desktop distros' out there seem to want to imitate Windows or Mac in terms of GUI, sticking to the same types of interfaces with different eye candy. GUIs do not seem to have fundamentally changed since the early 90s. Do you feel that this standardisation is a good thing, or it it mediocrity stifling innovation?
Rice: Turned into Space Sake
Corn: Became Moon Moonshine
Potato: Distilled into Vacuum Vodka
Wheat: Brewed into Blast-off Beer
Honey: Made in Mars Mead
Grapes: Squashed into Weightless Wine
...isn't Aliteration Amusing?
On a side note, I believe the Soviets were the first to send up liquor, in the form of Vodka. God bless the motherland, da?
Huzzah! With this new "Tooth-Brush" technology, we Subjects of The Queen can now polish those hard to reach places in our teapots after teatime! Marvelous!
Bloody queer name for a teapot brush, but whatever works, eh mate?
Bah, that's why you need to invest in Paladins or Ogres and get Holy Vision or Eye of Kilrogg. None of that fancy "technology" shit that can fail, no sir. Just good ol' fashioned magick and spells.
I think our soldiers could use some Unholy Armor or Flame Shield, too. Don't let John Kerry off the hook for voting against the bill to provide better armor for our troops with the Unholy Armor update from Halib^H^H^H^H^HThe Temple of The Damned!
All the slashdot dittoheads seem to be saying the players should shut up and take it as if not doing so breaks the fucking game, and it doesn't.
As I understand it, the players staged an online 'riot' by fucking with the NPC that called the women slaves and forcing him to leave.
What the fuck is wrong with that?
If you're some foreigner and you go up to a free woman and start calling her a 'slave', what the fuck do you think would happen? What, you think they should say, "Yes, master"? The whole fucking point is that they *aren't* slaves, and they responded as they should.
So in short: NPC was being in character calling women 'slaves', and players were in character beating the shit out of him.
But of course, stupid slashdotters love any oppurtunities to depict women(many weren't even women, guys) as over-PC shrews.
Thanks, that was the kind of post I come to Slashdot for : )
Where was the apartment, roughly? It said 'downtown', but I assume it was around the east edge of the OSU campus or south of there? Was it a dorm room?
So, I hope things are well over there. I miss that place, although there wasn't nearly enough to do;) Did they ever do anything with the waterfront?
And who the hell is this 'samzenplus' that posted this? His user page shows him as user 5, yet I have no recollection of seeing him post stuff before. I really wish Slashdot editors would announce stuff like what's going on behind the scenes...
some portable radio manufacturers to add extra transistors just so they could market as being a *12 transistor* radio.
Oh yeah? Well, my Pentium IV has *100 million* transistors! How do ya like that, huh? huh?! - Sadly, this appears to be Intel's marketing strategy these days.
Good thing radio makers weren't competing on frequencies - "My radio goes up to 300 Mhz!" "Oh yeah? Mine goes to 350!". We'd have ended up in the terahertz range by now. At least the 4th stack on the Titanic served some purpose - IIRC, they used it to vent the galley and laundry fumes.
Another writeup, from the town paper where it happened: Corvallis Gazette-Times, and another from the Eugene Registar-Guard here. On a side note, I'm suprised they responded so quickly, less than 24 hours between recieving the signal and a response team at the door. I used to live in the area, and Corvallis is a small (pop. 50k) college town, with some hills and rivers in the area but nothing like a mountain that would require a large search & rescue squad. I guess it's good to know they're there, though.
As for the transmission strength, from the article - "
Mandrell has heard of this sort of thing happening with customized computer gear. Sometimes CAP equipment will pick up these signals, he said, but they are usually weak enough to ignore. "This was really strong," Mandrell said. "This was abnormally strong. It kind of surprised us."" I don't know anything about these distress signals, but I imagine that if they're designed to work from a battery-powered tranciever, anything connected to a wall socket should have enough power to work.
No, let's all make calls the consist of slashdot in-jokes, until the NSA thinks slashdot is a haven for terrorists.
"First post!" "In Soviet Russia, YOU monitor Echelon!" "I gots the hot grits pouring down my pants..." "STFU! STFU! RTFA!" "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of..." "...Natalie Portman, petrified..." "...but does she run Linux?" "4. Profit!"
...or, only in China would the state punish someone severely for criticizing an obvious government screwup like this.
Of course, he could actually think it's lucky. Who knows, maybe he stole some parts of it and is going to sell it on the black market. And the state might actually compensate him well for damages, since this is so high profile.
If *BSDs were religions -
OpenBSD - Concerned that your fringe religion was becoming too currupted by temptation(and also because you were kicked out), you've decided to start your own cult.
It has its own armed compound straddling the border of Montana and Canada - Montana for the guns, Canada for the drugs. Your cult memebers obsessively analyze the compound's perimiter for weakness, knowing that evil "scripture kiddies" will try to get in and destroy your land of purity. None have gotten through for seven years. You know also that the government is out to get you, so every time a black helicopter flies near, a burst of gunfire warns them away.
Your followers are fanatical to the extreme and will bite the hand off of anyone who dares to say that their license is not free. Five times a day, they face in the direction of the holy land and chant, "There is no BSD but OpenBSD. There is no freedom but the BSD license. May God strike down the abominations of the GPL."
NetBSD - The fringe religion that OpenBSD came from. Like Unitarians, you don't really stand for anything, choosing to accomodate any processsor family that needs a kernel. Your quiet, hippieish ways does not create the devotion of the other BSDs, and your religion is doomed to be obscure forever. Your followers don't go out of their way to castigate the GPL heretics or the Windows infidels, choosing to "live and let live". If the Rapture comes and the BSD Daemon comes forth to cast judgement upon the geeks of the world, he will say unto NetBSD users, "Oh, are you still here? I, uh, guess you're saved". Hallelujah!
FreeBSD - A dead religion, which no one practices anymore. Netcraft confirms it.
I think you forgot the part about "training on an remote Chinese mountaintop, with the guidance of an elderly master of the ancient secret art of install-fu on a TRaSh-80."
Once you have mastered the art of installing what cannot be installed, you may return to RedHat or even Caldera and be content to know that all is vanity, all is illusion.
Go now. Enlightenment (v. 0.17) awaits.
Oh nos! What if the Dept. of Homeland Security finds out about my G4 Cube or my GameCube?! I'll be branded a terrorist and sent to Gitmo before you can say TimeCube!
:P
Hey, maybe if we told them Osama was building cheap knockoff Rubik's Cubes, they'll get off their ass and catch him
Aside from sunlight, I mean.
Hawt, pale, sun-deprived punk-goth chicks of Portland, watch out! I'm coming to the Promised Land!
You go and put that png on your work desktop, then. We'll see how long you keep your job.
Again, I am not turned on by that image at all, it's just too fucking saccharine. I can imagine them singing "Kumbaiya" while hugging each other.
Besides, why would I want that shit on my desktop? Tell me with a straight face that it looks good - not that it's 'acceptable', tell me that it actually looks good, and that you would put it on your desktop if you found it on the web.
You can't can you? That is some of the ugliest wallpaper I've seen.
Here are the images from the thread, and I agree with you. What sort of a fucked up world do we live in, where we can show images of people killing other people, but not of 3 people caring for each other.
...and before you respond that I'm a prude, let me tell you that I've seen porn that will probobly curl your toes and grow hair on your chest. I've laughed in the face(or rear) of Goatse Man. And I still wouldn't like that Ubuntu wallpaper on my desktop. The things looks like a fucking Calvin Klein or Gap ad. They're tacky. And while I like pictures of people naked, the Ubuntu pics have a strange vibe about them. The people are in obviously sexual situations and pretending that they're not, they're just having good clean fun(doing what?)...
What sort of fucked up world do we live in when an OS tries to force social ideology on its users? I get annnoyed with the license puritanism of the Debian folks, but at least it makes sense for them to be like that. Why are the Ubuntu folks trying to put their social beliefs on my desktop?
Your comment does not make sense. By 'caring', you must mean 'fucking', because last time I checked, caring does not require nudity, fucking does. And what the fuck do you mean 'we can show images of people killing people'? People killing other people would be even less apropriate than nudity, and if Ubuntu had shipped *that*, there would be a hell of a lot more complaints. But way to go making gross generalizations about people who are 'prudes'.
And then there's the issue of why the rest of the world would not like them. There is the obvious issue of nudity. Even in liberal societies, that sort of thing is not going to fly on a corporate workstation, let alone the school's. Then there are the other, ahem, social contexts...
Let's see, in the pictures, we have - a white man, a white woman, and a black woman. There are very few places in the world where such a combination of people would be considered acceptable, mostly in urban centers of the U.S. and Europe. Even without the racial overtones, the fact that there's 3 of them would put it off the acceptability scale in most of the world.
If you're going to respond that they should be more accepting, fuck you. Why the hell should an OS be dictating social mores to them to begin with?
Let me ask you a simple question - can you think of any other OS that installed a background that had *people* in it, clothed or not? I know neither Windows nor Mac has. The reason OSes traditionally don't install pics of people is that they would be too distracting, and their identity would become too personalized in the image of the models. For branding reasons alone, Ubuntu should avoid using the 3-way interracial fuckfest.
This sounds like an idea from David Brin(author of 'The Postman'), called "The Transparent Society", from a book of the same name. Basically, he says that the powers-that-be will always have the power to snoop on the ordinary people, so there is no point in advocating privacy; all you get is an false feeling of security, and you give those in power a cloak of secrecy.
Instead, he says that we shoud remove privacy from everyone, and let the public see what others are doing - basically, have everyone watch everyone else. The point of that is supposedly that it would keep corruption down and stop the rich and powerful from abusing their power.
Now, I don't say that I agree with Brin, but I just thought the idea of people going around broadcasting live video of everyone to keep the cops in check sounded like somthing Brin would like.
I doubt that the protest idea would work, though. People don't care about brutality if they think that the police are acting in their interest and there is even a chance of violence from the protesters. Remember how all the violence from the police at the WTO protesets was justified by a dozen 'anachists' defacing a Nike store? Or how much of America feels that it's "better safe than sorry" regarding Guantanamo and Abu Gharib?
Watching the watchers only matters when the public gives a damn that the watchers are brutal.
Interesting project, I have been thinking of trying it out because I use Debian, but would appreciate something that isn't so much "everything and the kitchen sink"-like. However, I am worried about the fact that you use a different apt repository and you don't recomment mixing Ubuntu and Debian packages. One thing I definitely like about Debian is the amount of testing they go through, and I was wondering about how many volunteer developers you have, and how much time you spend on testing the distro?
On a completely different note, do you have any radically different philosophies regarding user interfaces than other distros? All or most 'desktop distros' out there seem to want to imitate Windows or Mac in terms of GUI, sticking to the same types of interfaces with different eye candy. GUIs do not seem to have fundamentally changed since the early 90s. Do you feel that this standardisation is a good thing, or it it mediocrity stifling innovation?
Rice: Turned into Space Sake
...isn't Aliteration Amusing?
Corn: Became Moon Moonshine
Potato: Distilled into Vacuum Vodka
Wheat: Brewed into Blast-off Beer
Honey: Made in Mars Mead
Grapes: Squashed into Weightless Wine
On a side note, I believe the Soviets were the first to send up liquor, in the form of Vodka. God bless the motherland, da?
Huzzah! With this new "Tooth-Brush" technology, we Subjects of The Queen can now polish those hard to reach places in our teapots after teatime! Marvelous!
Bloody queer name for a teapot brush, but whatever works, eh mate?
(Runs and hides from enraged Englishmen)
Bah, that's why you need to invest in Paladins or Ogres and get Holy Vision or Eye of Kilrogg. None of that fancy "technology" shit that can fail, no sir. Just good ol' fashioned magick and spells.
I think our soldiers could use some Unholy Armor or Flame Shield, too. Don't let John Kerry off the hook for voting against the bill to provide better armor for our troops with the Unholy Armor update from Halib^H^H^H^H^HThe Temple of The Damned!
All the slashdot dittoheads seem to be saying the players should shut up and take it as if not doing so breaks the fucking game, and it doesn't.
As I understand it, the players staged an online 'riot' by fucking with the NPC that called the women slaves and forcing him to leave.
What the fuck is wrong with that?
If you're some foreigner and you go up to a free woman and start calling her a 'slave', what the fuck do you think would happen? What, you think they should say, "Yes, master"? The whole fucking point is that they *aren't* slaves, and they responded as they should.
So in short: NPC was being in character calling women 'slaves', and players were in character beating the shit out of him.
But of course, stupid slashdotters love any oppurtunities to depict women(many weren't even women, guys) as over-PC shrews.
No, they also sell search services like a "search appliance" and custom website searching services. See here for details.
I believe they've also licensed their software to some companies who want to build more specialized search tools as well.
That's what I thought too, until I heard a familiar clicking noise coming from the bathroom stall...
Thank god for laptops and wi-fi.
Thanks, that was the kind of post I come to Slashdot for : )
;) Did they ever do anything with the waterfront?
Where was the apartment, roughly? It said 'downtown', but I assume it was around the east edge of the OSU campus or south of there? Was it a dorm room?
So, I hope things are well over there. I miss that place, although there wasn't nearly enough to do
Those who don't like the whiteness
You mean like Eminem? They asked him, but he doesn't like MP3s... (see here)
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright - She moves in mysterious ways...
about this new iPod, all I can say is, "Even better than the real thing..."
And who the hell is this 'samzenplus' that posted this? His user page shows him as user 5, yet I have no recollection of seeing him post stuff before. I really wish Slashdot editors would announce stuff like what's going on behind the scenes...
Note that 'SX-8' pronounced 'Sex-ay' :-)
which eventually to the collapse of the building's roof and the loss of eight hundred lives.
Aha! So even the great Neal Stephenson makes grammar mistakes! I think you missed a 'led' there, Mr. Stephenson...
(chant: 'I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy....')
some portable radio manufacturers to add extra transistors just so they could market as being a *12 transistor* radio.
Oh yeah? Well, my Pentium IV has *100 million* transistors! How do ya like that, huh? huh?! - Sadly, this appears to be Intel's marketing strategy these days.
Good thing radio makers weren't competing on frequencies - "My radio goes up to 300 Mhz!" "Oh yeah? Mine goes to 350!". We'd have ended up in the terahertz range by now. At least the 4th stack on the Titanic served some purpose - IIRC, they used it to vent the galley and laundry fumes.
Another writeup, from the town paper where it happened: Corvallis Gazette-Times, and another from the Eugene Registar-Guard here. On a side note, I'm suprised they responded so quickly, less than 24 hours between recieving the signal and a response team at the door. I used to live in the area, and Corvallis is a small (pop. 50k) college town, with some hills and rivers in the area but nothing like a mountain that would require a large search & rescue squad. I guess it's good to know they're there, though.
As for the transmission strength, from the article - " Mandrell has heard of this sort of thing happening with customized computer gear. Sometimes CAP equipment will pick up these signals, he said, but they are usually weak enough to ignore. "This was really strong," Mandrell said. "This was abnormally strong. It kind of surprised us."" I don't know anything about these distress signals, but I imagine that if they're designed to work from a battery-powered tranciever, anything connected to a wall socket should have enough power to work.
No, let's all make calls the consist of slashdot in-jokes, until the NSA thinks slashdot is a haven for terrorists.
"First post!"
"In Soviet Russia, YOU monitor Echelon!"
"I gots the hot grits pouring down my pants..."
"STFU! STFU! RTFA!"
"Imagine a Beowulf cluster of..."
"...Natalie Portman, petrified..."
"...but does she run Linux?"
"4. Profit!"
...or, only in China would the state punish someone severely for criticizing an obvious government screwup like this.
Of course, he could actually think it's lucky. Who knows, maybe he stole some parts of it and is going to sell it on the black market. And the state might actually compensate him well for damages, since this is so high profile.
4. MS-C3PO and iR2D2 look like they were designed by and for 3-year olds.
I hear there are some "right-wing" changes in the new series, too...
5. The Death Star is now referred to as the "Weapons of Mass Destruction".
6. The "Force" is now called "Personal faith in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour"
7. Mark Hamil digitally replaced with George W. Bush.
8. Luke *does not* go AWOL by going to Dagobah. Never happened. Any references to such are lies spread by Lib- er, Imperial spies.
9. Imperials not only have a gay British accent, they now also destroy Alderaan because they wouldn't recognize gay marriages.
10. The Emperor replaced by Saddam Hussein; Darth Vader is now Bill Clinton, and wants to "Feel your pain" with force abilities.