/. is a community of nerds. We are supposed to be the intellectual superiors, and we can't even use commas right. And for those who previously argued against me, I suggest you double check your proper grammar rules.
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Point being. I am a nerd, and therefore I am Intellectually Superior. Therefore I will obey the rules of C++, Grammar, and Mathematics (in that order).
I didn't ask for your list of good FPSs, I asked for ungeneric FPSs. All of the ones you named were good, but generic.
Actually, Goldeneye, Doom/Wolfenstein, and the first FPS to support Multiplayer Online Gameplay were all quite innovative in their own ways. Unlike you, I have the balls to think outside the box, Mr. Coward.
That's your opinion. You are entitled to it, and I am entitled to disagree with your opinion. I'll leave it at that.
Ok. Maybe I was out of line with the complete and utter Halo 2 bash. I apologize... but its still a shitacular game.
Doom ran on my DOS box. In fact... Doom ran pretty well. In fact... technically speaking, you can run some fancy 3D games on a DOS machine, assuming someone were to actually take the time and write the code to utilize the new 3D graphics processors on the old software. Still not something you need Windows to do. See, my good Anonymous Friend, there are these things called hardware drivers that are used to seperate the basic operating system from the hardware. This allows me to use the same graphics card on... Windows 98 or Windows XP. I can also use this same graphics card on Linux (or Mac, if the hardware is compatible). On top of the drivers, the OS usually has some sort of API. For those who don't know what that means, it stands for "application program interface". Using an API (Direct X for example), programmers can write a game that is (theoretically) Operating System and Hardware agnostic (since I'm using large words, I've conveniently listed links for you, Mr. Coward).
Finally, Mr. Coward, please realize that there are help for people like you. I mean, I think most of us realized that the "Weirdo Text" in the Matrix was just another Hollywood special effect.
Windows XP is not a rather large leap forward. Windows 2000 was an amazing piece of software, and to this day it is my preferred operating system. Unfortunately, many apps that I am regularly required to use force me to use Windows XP.
"Photo-realistic" images generated by Windows XP are not EVEN THE RESULT OF WINDOWS XP'S TECHNOLOGIES (Direct X still runs on Windows 9x/2000). In fact, Direct X runs faster on the older Windows OSes because they have a smaller footprint.
Halo 2 is a lowsy game. Have you actually played it? I mean, really. The controls are not tight. They are confusing to me, and frankly the game makes me too nauseous to want to try to familiarize myself with them.
Hmm. Good FPS. Let me think. Last one I can think of... 007: Goldeneye for the N64. Yeah. It was simple, easy to play, difficult to master, and you were rewarded for not blowing everything up (except when you were trying to beat the Faculty in 2:10 to unlock the easter eggs...).
Before then... Quake II was the first online FPS I played. I thought that was innovative, although I'm pretty sure it was the first online FPS.
Before that... Wolfenstein 3D/Doom. Those were amazing games for their eras. Unfortunately, almost every FPS since then has been just another lowsy clone.
And by that, I of course mean that Unreal 2006: Game of the Year of Counterstrike 3: The More Expensive Expansion Pack I hear has some great features... There's this new gun called the BFG 10,000.
Am I the only one who finds this to be absolutely ridiculous.
I mean really... filming a multimillion dollar movie about a game that's a mindless fps. I've read stories that "hollywood wants metroid", etc. Let's not forget about previous attempts like "Resident Evil", "Final Fantasy", "Street Fighter", and "Super Mario Bros."--Wait a minute; it's starting to make sense to me.
Here's how it is:
Microsoft is using this as a marketing ploy, and the movie's going to be wretched. I don't care what any of you Bungie-Fanboys say Halo is a shit-fer game with a shit-fer story and a shit-fer play style. Following this same tradition, Halo: the Movie is going to be a shit-fer movie that's nothing than a waste of my two hours.
Halo (the game) is a complete waste of my time. I won't argue in its favor--unless you count its perdy graphics (big whoop).
The movie is going to be just as big of a flaming pile of dogshit.
I just want all of you (Halo advocates) to know that you are the reason Microsoft's got a friggin' monopoly. You people are the reason that Windows still sucks. You people are the reason they're muscling their way into the video game business.
Its stupid, gullible people like you who buy Windows RG Third Edition with Service Pack 2 even though its the same crap that was released 10 years ago. You people are the ones who bought Halo 2 despite the lack of any quality innovation. Oh yay! Look my gun is a bigger gun than the last game. I have a (Dr. Evil Voice) "Laserbeam". You people are the reason musicians like Creed, Staind, and anything off of American Idol get record contracts. Its stupid people like you who feed this lowsy corporate world a falsified need to tell you what you like!
Fine! Its your brainless life. Go ahead. Buy Halo 2. Go ahead. Buy the new Good Charlotte album, play anything EA makes, watch the Halo movie, devote yourself to mindless self-indulgence. Its your money. Really. Go ahead, Troll Me! Mod me down. I dare you.
Nintendo is not downplaying the importance of graphics by any means, but we are closing in on the photorealistic boundary between video games and real life. The coming 6th generation of video games (ps3, xbox360, revolution) will probably be one of the last substantial leaps in graphics capabilities.
While Nintendo has stated that their machines are only going to be 2 or 3 times more powerful than the Gamecube, is it a bad thing? No. We've all read the articles about Resident Evil 4's quest to the PS2... Capcom is having to remove a lot of the visual prowess of the GCN version.
Will Nintendo's hardware be "inferior"? I've read the specifications on the Cell processor, and I know how many FLOPs it throws down. I've read the awe-inspiring specifications of the XBox 360.
But I'm not ready to pay $400 for a new console. Especially a console who's flagship game is another rehashed FPS. Sorry/.ers, but I haven't enjoyed a FPS since Goldeneye--and I don't recognize the crap that EA released as a video game.
As for your other requirements. Nintendo has supported HD for quite some time now. The GCN was released with a digital video interface (you can buy component cables via the Nintendo Store). I even hear that the GCN originally was going to support a DVI cable through the same digital video interface, but the market lacked interest.
This brings me to another point. I'm relatively in a cozy economic position, but buying an HD television hasn't appealed to me yet. The cost-to-benefit ratio just isn't worth it yet. *shrugs shoulders*
Then, the comment about the RPGs... To an extent I agree with you. Quite a bit, actually. I would like more RPGs for my 'cube, but I can't say there's much worth it on the PS2 or the XBox.
Kingdom Hearts is the rock. Star Wars KOTOR was absolutely amazing. But after that, I'm kind of bored with the RPGs of the other consoles.
Final Fantasy X. *Yawn*. Final Fantasy XI. *Yawn*. They just aren't amazing like they used to be. But Crystal Chronicles, for the GCN. Absolutely amazing. It was worth every moment of it. And then there was X-Men Legends (that was poorly programmed and had several bugs) which was also great multiplayer RPG fun. Paper Mario. Baten Kaitos. Tales of Symphonia. Pokemon Coluseum (much less RPG like... sort of). tLoZ: Wind Waker. I'm just not seeing your point about the lack of RPGs for the 'cube.
Guess this is a long way of saying this, but I am not worried about Nintendo's strategy: it should be an effective one. Then again, so will Microsoft's strategy. And Sony's strategy.
So, give me my Nintendo, and let's game. Woot.
You are very clearly wrong. What have we gotten out of these 9 Gigabytes of space? Prerendered full motion video?
Boring.
FMV does not make a game.
Mario 64 was a whopping 8 Megs (64 Megabits), and Star Fox 64 (with a couple of hours of voice acting) was something like 16 Megs.
Code, believe it or not, once compiled is very small. Now some of you java or.net programmers may disagree, but anyone who's actually dealt with C++, Assembly, etc. will tell you how big there execs are.
Now, how does a game like FFX fill a DVD? Ahhh. FMV and Bloated Voice Acting files... The textures are (for the most part) pretty small. Light shading, polygons, light mapping, etc. is all done using mathematically formulae.
Now Star Fox 64... with that much voice acting, how did it manage to stay under a Gig? Nintendo has some of the best compression methods around. If I remember correctly, the voice acting from SF64 was done using an algorithm similar to MP3.
And the sound tracks? Nintendo has historically used an encoding method similar to the MIDI format for their music. Luckily, Nintendo has had decent sound processors (or extra available clock resources to process sound tracks)
We can play games... or we can watch movies. I'll enjoy my games when I play my games, and I'll enjoy my movies when I watch my DVDs.
Personally, My A/V visual goals are quite simplistic. My entertainment system, aside from my TV are all cleverly hidden from view during nonusage.
The only advantage of your idea is possibly a space savings... but old consoles are packed away or migrated to another (lesser used) television.
*Shrugs shoulders*
Oh well.
1.) Take my Virtual Boy on my next road trip. It is clearly a handheld system. They were trying to fool me with those legs...
2.) Throw out my DS. It's obviously the same that [hasn't] changed much in years.
3.) Ignore the obvious progression of hardware upgrades.
4.) Forget the countless hours I spent playing Goldeneye, Mario 64, Zelda OOT and MM, Blast Corps, Perfect Dark, Star Fox 64...... I was clearly wrong.
5.) Learn to spell comming corrrrrecttttttly.
6.) Accept that full motion video and graphics must really make a game more entertaining. I was clearly wrong for enjoying all previous video games.
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No Heartless Bastard is going to trump my steel plate!
Keeps the Users Away.
*ducks from flying vegetables...*
Just for the record, I like my Mac very much
But the new 3D Star Wars aren't that bad, are they?
Then again... there are some who would consider many things unnatural.
Heh. Yeah, I want my original theatrical release SW DVD, too.
Sloppyjoes7, you are right.
/. is a community of nerds. We are supposed to be the intellectual superiors, and we can't even use commas right. And for those who previously argued against me, I suggest you double check your proper grammar rules.
Reference 1
Reference 2
Reference 3
Point being. I am a nerd, and therefore I am Intellectually Superior. Therefore I will obey the rules of C++, Grammar, and Mathematics (in that order).
I, for one, have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I want the original classics just the way I remember them.
Then again... I wasn't one to complain about the All-Stars cart graphical upgrades, neither.
Hmmm.... Vintage games do have small footprints. Maybe the Big N could bundle two different versions of a game's textures with each download...
That's right. I rock.
I didn't ask for your list of good FPSs, I asked for ungeneric FPSs. All of the ones you named were good, but generic.
... Windows 98 or Windows XP. I can also use this same graphics card on Linux (or Mac, if the hardware is compatible). On top of the drivers, the OS usually has some sort of API. For those who don't know what that means, it stands for "application program interface". Using an API (Direct X for example), programmers can write a game that is (theoretically) Operating System and Hardware agnostic (since I'm using large words, I've conveniently listed links for you, Mr. Coward).
;)
Actually, Goldeneye, Doom/Wolfenstein, and the first FPS to support Multiplayer Online Gameplay were all quite innovative in their own ways. Unlike you, I have the balls to think outside the box, Mr. Coward.
That's your opinion. You are entitled to it, and I am entitled to disagree with your opinion. I'll leave it at that.
Ok. Maybe I was out of line with the complete and utter Halo 2 bash. I apologize... but its still a shitacular game.
Doom ran on my DOS box. In fact... Doom ran pretty well. In fact... technically speaking, you can run some fancy 3D games on a DOS machine, assuming someone were to actually take the time and write the code to utilize the new 3D graphics processors on the old software. Still not something you need Windows to do. See, my good Anonymous Friend, there are these things called hardware drivers that are used to seperate the basic operating system from the hardware. This allows me to use the same graphics card on
Finally, Mr. Coward, please realize that there are help for people like you. I mean, I think most of us realized that the "Weirdo Text" in the Matrix was just another Hollywood special effect.
Windows XP is not a rather large leap forward. Windows 2000 was an amazing piece of software, and to this day it is my preferred operating system. Unfortunately, many apps that I am regularly required to use force me to use Windows XP.
"Photo-realistic" images generated by Windows XP are not EVEN THE RESULT OF WINDOWS XP'S TECHNOLOGIES (Direct X still runs on Windows 9x/2000). In fact, Direct X runs faster on the older Windows OSes because they have a smaller footprint.
Halo 2 is a lowsy game. Have you actually played it? I mean, really. The controls are not tight. They are confusing to me, and frankly the game makes me too nauseous to want to try to familiarize myself with them.
Hmm. Good FPS. Let me think. Last one I can think of... 007: Goldeneye for the N64. Yeah. It was simple, easy to play, difficult to master, and you were rewarded for not blowing everything up (except when you were trying to beat the Faculty in 2:10 to unlock the easter eggs...).
Before then... Quake II was the first online FPS I played. I thought that was innovative, although I'm pretty sure it was the first online FPS.
Before that... Wolfenstein 3D/Doom. Those were amazing games for their eras. Unfortunately, almost every FPS since then has been just another lowsy clone.
And by that, I of course mean that Unreal 2006: Game of the Year of Counterstrike 3: The More Expensive Expansion Pack I hear has some great features... There's this new gun called the BFG 10,000.
Jerk.
Am I the only one who finds this to be absolutely ridiculous.
I mean really... filming a multimillion dollar movie about a game that's a mindless fps. I've read stories that "hollywood wants metroid", etc. Let's not forget about previous attempts like "Resident Evil", "Final Fantasy", "Street Fighter", and "Super Mario Bros."--Wait a minute; it's starting to make sense to me.
Here's how it is:
Microsoft is using this as a marketing ploy, and the movie's going to be wretched. I don't care what any of you Bungie-Fanboys say Halo is a shit-fer game with a shit-fer story and a shit-fer play style. Following this same tradition, Halo: the Movie is going to be a shit-fer movie that's nothing than a waste of my two hours.
Halo (the game) is a complete waste of my time. I won't argue in its favor--unless you count its perdy graphics (big whoop).
The movie is going to be just as big of a flaming pile of dogshit.
I just want all of you (Halo advocates) to know that you are the reason Microsoft's got a friggin' monopoly. You people are the reason that Windows still sucks. You people are the reason they're muscling their way into the video game business.
Its stupid, gullible people like you who buy Windows RG Third Edition with Service Pack 2 even though its the same crap that was released 10 years ago. You people are the ones who bought Halo 2 despite the lack of any quality innovation. Oh yay! Look my gun is a bigger gun than the last game. I have a (Dr. Evil Voice) "Laserbeam". You people are the reason musicians like Creed, Staind, and anything off of American Idol get record contracts. Its stupid people like you who feed this lowsy corporate world a falsified need to tell you what you like!
Fine! Its your brainless life. Go ahead. Buy Halo 2. Go ahead. Buy the new Good Charlotte album, play anything EA makes, watch the Halo movie, devote yourself to mindless self-indulgence. Its your money. Really. Go ahead, Troll Me! Mod me down. I dare you.
Ouch.
I hope you weren't accusing me of using the Windows calc... 14/12 isn't a tough one.
besides... I was just being a smartass. I made no claims on whether I agreed or not.
*shrugs shoulders*
If they are only offering a 2 hour game, then it had better be 1/70th the price of a 140 minute game
Hmmm. According to my calculations 140 minute game should only run about 16.6% more than 120 minute game.........
Nintendo is not downplaying the importance of graphics by any means, but we are closing in on the photorealistic boundary between video games and real life. The coming 6th generation of video games (ps3, xbox360, revolution) will probably be one of the last substantial leaps in graphics capabilities. While Nintendo has stated that their machines are only going to be 2 or 3 times more powerful than the Gamecube, is it a bad thing? No. We've all read the articles about Resident Evil 4's quest to the PS2... Capcom is having to remove a lot of the visual prowess of the GCN version. Will Nintendo's hardware be "inferior"? I've read the specifications on the Cell processor, and I know how many FLOPs it throws down. I've read the awe-inspiring specifications of the XBox 360. But I'm not ready to pay $400 for a new console. Especially a console who's flagship game is another rehashed FPS. Sorry /.ers, but I haven't enjoyed a FPS since Goldeneye--and I don't recognize the crap that EA released as a video game.
As for your other requirements. Nintendo has supported HD for quite some time now. The GCN was released with a digital video interface (you can buy component cables via the Nintendo Store). I even hear that the GCN originally was going to support a DVI cable through the same digital video interface, but the market lacked interest.
This brings me to another point. I'm relatively in a cozy economic position, but buying an HD television hasn't appealed to me yet. The cost-to-benefit ratio just isn't worth it yet. *shrugs shoulders*
Then, the comment about the RPGs... To an extent I agree with you. Quite a bit, actually. I would like more RPGs for my 'cube, but I can't say there's much worth it on the PS2 or the XBox.
Kingdom Hearts is the rock. Star Wars KOTOR was absolutely amazing. But after that, I'm kind of bored with the RPGs of the other consoles.
Final Fantasy X. *Yawn*. Final Fantasy XI. *Yawn*. They just aren't amazing like they used to be. But Crystal Chronicles, for the GCN. Absolutely amazing. It was worth every moment of it. And then there was X-Men Legends (that was poorly programmed and had several bugs) which was also great multiplayer RPG fun. Paper Mario. Baten Kaitos. Tales of Symphonia. Pokemon Coluseum (much less RPG like... sort of). tLoZ: Wind Waker. I'm just not seeing your point about the lack of RPGs for the 'cube.
Guess this is a long way of saying this, but I am not worried about Nintendo's strategy: it should be an effective one. Then again, so will Microsoft's strategy. And Sony's strategy.
So, give me my Nintendo, and let's game. Woot.
Wait a minute... only $5 a day for snacks.
You aren't really a gamer, are you?....
Actually, Mr. Coward, it is required. I am typing in English.
You are very clearly wrong. What have we gotten out of these 9 Gigabytes of space? Prerendered full motion video?
.net programmers may disagree, but anyone who's actually dealt with C++, Assembly, etc. will tell you how big there execs are.
Boring.
FMV does not make a game.
Mario 64 was a whopping 8 Megs (64 Megabits), and Star Fox 64 (with a couple of hours of voice acting) was something like 16 Megs.
Code, believe it or not, once compiled is very small. Now some of you java or
Now, how does a game like FFX fill a DVD? Ahhh. FMV and Bloated Voice Acting files... The textures are (for the most part) pretty small. Light shading, polygons, light mapping, etc. is all done using mathematically formulae.
Now Star Fox 64... with that much voice acting, how did it manage to stay under a Gig? Nintendo has some of the best compression methods around. If I remember correctly, the voice acting from SF64 was done using an algorithm similar to MP3.
And the sound tracks? Nintendo has historically used an encoding method similar to the MIDI format for their music. Luckily, Nintendo has had decent sound processors (or extra available clock resources to process sound tracks)
We can play games... or we can watch movies. I'll enjoy my games when I play my games, and I'll enjoy my movies when I watch my DVDs.
if they supported web, IM , and email through optional keyboards/mice.
Missing Comma.
Personally, My A/V visual goals are quite simplistic. My entertainment system, aside from my TV are all cleverly hidden from view during nonusage.
The only advantage of your idea is possibly a space savings... but old consoles are packed away or migrated to another (lesser used) television.
*Shrugs shoulders*
Oh well.
Now I've only seen Season 1 (and a select few other misc. episodes) of DS9, but that's the feeling I got...
The Federation was the "Superpower" that wasn't necessarily wanted...
Actually, there are Systems that predate the Nintendo in the "8-bit era".
For example, The Atary 2600 used a modified MOS Tech 6507, which was an 8-bit processor in a video game system that predates the Nintendo.
I suggest you brush up on your VG history.
This must mean you have tickets... The hunt for blood begins. ;)
'kay. Here's my plan. Kill someone with an E3 pass, steal it, and find my way in...
On a completely different subject, do any of you have tickets to E3?...
Remember, the DVD Forum doesn't like "burnable" media. Look how much of an afterthought recordable DVDs were.
Need an example? Let's see... -R, +R, -RAM, -RAM 8, -RAM 9, +R DL, -RW, +RW..............
Yulp. Damned DVD Forum.
I, for one, welcome our BluRay overlords
Never Mind. BORING.
Fellow slashdotters. You've been deceived again.
I've been using Bonjour/Rendezvous since about July/August of last year.
But then again... repeated articles, stale news, or advertisements... on slashdot? never...
Fellow Slashdotters--You'll never believe what just happened?
;)
I just sold my old Dual 1.8 PowerMac for $1800 on eBay. Some sucker actually took me up on that one...
In summary: WOOT!
bleaknik's to do list.
1.) Take my Virtual Boy on my next road trip. It is clearly a handheld system. They were trying to fool me with those legs...
2.) Throw out my DS. It's obviously the same that [hasn't] changed much in years.
3.) Ignore the obvious progression of hardware upgrades.
4.) Forget the countless hours I spent playing Goldeneye, Mario 64, Zelda OOT and MM, Blast Corps, Perfect Dark, Star Fox 64...... I was clearly wrong.
5.) Learn to spell comming corrrrrecttttttly.
6.) Accept that full motion video and graphics must really make a game more entertaining. I was clearly wrong for enjoying all previous video games.