and did they calculate the total the same way as they do the "street value" of "drugs"? 34 gigs a day, come on...
I need my bandwidth man.... Just a few gigs worth, a little something to get me through the rough patch so I can torrent my show. It's the season finale! I just gotta see it, man! You need... something? I can do it, just give me some bandwidth.
Say it isn't true. How ever could someone be so cruel as to scam people who just want to do minimal work, never leave the house, and yet still make thousands per week?
Because running a work-at-home scam requires minimal work, you never have to leave the house, and you still make thousands per week.
EA actually caring about their developers and artists... That's even funnier!
And the fact that I would have implicitly believed every last word of it if it were said in the days of Caveman Ugh-lympics and Archon? That just makes me want to cry.
So it's what a company does with the information that determines whether they're evil or not.
Only so far. Owning a tactical nuke doesn't mean a person is crazy enough to use it, but it doesn't make me want to live nearby either. The fact that they're not only collecting data but the CEO is directing unfounded and nebulous accusations at his critics - essentially he's saying that anyone who complains is doing something wrong - has me worried. Besides, his job is to maximize profits for his company, not to serve the non-paying hordes who use his website. Eric Schmidt wakes up thinking about how to not be evil about as often as Steve Ballmer wakes up thinking about my potential.
If google are just using to increase the relevancy of their adverts, that hardly makes it evil.
The people who complained during the whole Gmail-using-mail-text-to-target-ads thing see it another way.
As for the bacon and eggs thing, one could argue that it's fairer for all on the average if the insurance does go higher up for that person.
So where does it stop? Several coworkers are smokers? Don't walk enough hours per week? When do you stop basic demographics and start digging too deep into a person's life? Plus, while I don't know the entire truth of her case and probably never will, I think Nathalie Blanchard has something to say about a single random data point being used to determine insurance.
Actually, the money does go to the people who own the copyrights.
That's how bad the music industry is--the typical recording contract involves a record company giving a loan to the artist (an "advance") who then finances the recording (including advertising.) The loan is paid back from owed royalties before the artist sees a dime, and when all is said and done, the record companies come out owning the copyrights to the finished product.
In addition, the advance and the royalty rate are set by the record company, and set in such a way that if the album is successful but not successful enough to go super-mega-ultra-platinum, you won't make back enough to pay back the advance. In other words, you can make a very popular album and still wind up owing your label money.
Ain't it grand? And we thought debt bondage was something only pimps and slave traders did.
Before downloading the album, send the band a check for $10 or so, to "do with as they see fit."
Is it still illegal to download the album? Is the burden now shifted to the musicians to pay the corporations?
It's still wrong, because the musicians aren't allowed to do things like that. It's in their contracts - the publisher gets the cash and gives the musician whatever fraction of a percent was agreed in the contract the musician signed when he was too poor to afford a contact lawyer to explain the fine print. See, that's the fair and legal way to do things!
Also, personally, I preordered an album on vinyl, then proceeded to download the album and have been enjoying it for the past few weeks. The thing is, I don't actually have possession, I simply paid for something that I'll get at some point in the future. Is this still wrong?
Well, since major copyright holders insist that any format shifting is wrong, then from their point of view, it doesn't matter if you order the album, wait for it to arrive, rip the music yourself from the copy you bought, and never distribute it beyond your own PC, it's STILL wrong.
Yet you post all over the Internet. So I guess you aren't really hiding everything.
So if you complain about Google you lose your right to complain about Google? You do realize Joseph Heller didn't write utopian fiction, right?
When was it suddenly a good idea to put private information on the Internet.
So, if Anonymous Coward mentions he likes cherry pie, that somehow means Google is allowed to know what books Mike Somebody at 123 Elm St. Anytown reads and use that information however the hell they like?
I half agree, but just to play devil's advocate, why do you worry/care if someone knows say... what taste your music is like, or what you had for breakfast yesterday?
Wow, you sure do have bacon and eggs a lot. People in that demographic often have higher cholesterol, making you a high risk. Your insurance premiums have been increased accordingly. Have a nice day!
Chances are VERY few would care very much, unless they knew you, or they shared your interests anyway.
The problem is, the very few people who care are EXACTLY the people who shouldn't have it. They're not your friends; if your friends want to know what books you read, or what music you like, or what food you eat, they ask. Or more likely they already know from hanging around with you.
Almost anyone willing to put the effort into tracking down personal information on you without alerting you needs the information but assumes you would refuse to tell them or lie about it. This pretty much boils things down to companies looking to market to your weaknesses or someone looking for dirt, neither of which has your best interests in mind.
Every time I hear the "Well, if you have nothing to hide..." canard, I want to scream.
Ditto. Though I found I can occasionally shut people up by saying "If you have nothing to hide, then what's your social security number? Credit card numbers and expiry dates? Medical history?"
Really, the Pet Shop Boys song "Integral" gets more depressing every day.
Time's a bitch. But then, I've seen that happen before. Hell, a girl I had a severe crush on in high school managed to age about 20 years during her college years. A computer screen between two people can be a blessing because that first "Oh my God what happened to you?" look doesn't transmit.
Not only have I played Phoenix Wright, but also SimCity and Civilization. I'm pretty sure that qualifies me for President in 2012. I'm also fairly certain I know the cheatcode to fix the economy.
I'm not qualified at all, but I'm the only candidate not afraid to save scum until I get it right.
I'd rather spend it learning something interesting, not twiddling with SATA cables or burn testing memory chips.
Some people think that IS interesting. See also baking your own pastry and tweaking your car engine.
I've put enough together to know that it's about as complicated as legos and it no longer qualifies anyone for a "geek" card.
Geek designation being subjective, I won't argue that point. But saying it's as (un)complicated as Lego is severe hyperbole. I seriously doubt Lego sees as many broken pieces coming back because they were installed wrong as your average computer store service department technician does. Let's see...
DDR 1/2/3 RAM for a board with some other kind of RAM. Or, just buying the fastest stuff out there without checking if the board can support it.
Laptop RAM for a desktop.
AMD CPU, Intel board. Or, AM2 CPU/AM3 board or Core 2 CPU/Core i7 board.
RAM or CPU of any flavor, bought right but installed backwards.
Dragging the board along standoffs and ruining the traces on the underside.
Forgetting the standoffs entirely so the board is right against the case. (Bonus points if you start arguing with the tech that you're an A+ certification instructor and that's how it's SUPPOSED to be built.)
Wrong numbers of or misplaced standoffs.
Somehow swapping the +4 of a 20+4 PSU and the 4 pin CPU power. Or the 8 pin CPU power and the 8 pin PCI-E.
Case USB plugged into motherboard Firewire port, or vice versa. Front panel sound plugged into whereever it will fit, usually a 13(?) pin digital audio header, but once into the IDE header.
Thinking all those extra cables coming off the PSU must go SOMEWHERE and plugging them in wherever. (Floppy power to any motherboard port, typically.)
Having the ground pins on the I/O shield INSIDE the ports instead of resting on top of (this is as common as dirt, I'm afraid).
Not using the I/O shield and then complaining about the dust getting through the big hole in the back.
Installing fans wrong so they fight against each other rather than encourage good airflow.
Not grounding one's body before working, or doing it once and then thinking you don't have to do it again after you walk across that nice carpet to get something.
Drinking pop while doing the install.
Trying to recycle parts from a 486 era system into a new one. Like case and power supply.
Assuming, at any point at all, that tin snips or physical exertion will be required to make something fit.
A qualification for intelligence? Whatever, my 8 year old nephew assembled his own computer. Congratulations, you are as smart as a 3rd grader.
Congratulations on forgetting every single joke about programming VCRs, using computers, and working remote controls with more than 20 buttons in the past two decades.
But it's not as easy as all that. And never will be. A person can luck out, or do it well enough, but building ANYTHING from scratch has pitfalls.
On the other hand, his contract never said he wasn't able to run these types of background calculation programs.
Probably doesn't outright say he can't use the PCs as an altar to sacrifice goats to Sauron, but that doesn't mean he can.
Even superintendent Denise Birdwell admitted, "We support educational research and certainly would have supported cancer research." So the issue is not the installation of the program, which would have been okay if the technician had installed Cancer@Home instead.
Perhaps, but she could just be saving face. If it was cancer research, they'd say they supported some other use, or that the extra power bills cost some kids new schoolbooks or something.
I answer the same to Thais when they ask "What days of the week were you born on?" and to westerners' "What's your sign?" Unfortunately, I can't pretend I don't know my birth date.
If you can even give a toss about this, try figure out what the LEAST compatible sign for each sign is, then ask them theirs and adjust yours to fit. Not like you want someone who really buys into that around you a lot anyway, right?
It's still stupid, and as a Canadian I'm just glad that I live in Quebec and we run our program separately. english version.... though someone should tell them the blink tag is dead!
Why is a Carnot reference here? Probably because there's not that many publications with user forums where you can mention a thermodynamic cycle in the first paragraph and get back responses more coherent than "I saw Lance Armstrong riding one of those!"
BTW: If this proves viable, expect the patent to be bought by someone who will fight/bribe tooth and nail to have "Animal Slavery" outlawed
That will be a bad thing?
Since lobbying and bribery accomplish so much muck, why not let them have a beneficial effect for a change?
Changing laws specifically so one individual or group has great power over everyone else is always a bad thing, no matter what the fringe benefits are.
If people stop eating actual animals, we'll be overrun with chickens in a decade. Up to our friggin' ears I tells ya! We'll have to carve our way through with machetes while wearing goalie masks.
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That pun was EXTremely bad.
Oh, man, stop it. EnoUFS2 much.
(Someone's gonna fsck me up for that one.)
and did they calculate the total the same way as they do the "street value" of "drugs"? 34 gigs a day, come on...
I need my bandwidth man.... Just a few gigs worth, a little something to get me through the rough patch so I can torrent my show. It's the season finale! I just gotta see it, man! You need... something? I can do it, just give me some bandwidth.
After this, I'm going cold turkey.
Very good. I love the sound of dying Cacodemons.
Stop, you're making me nostalgic for my days of abusing DeHackEd horribly.
Always wondered who and how they plan out which direction they use to cut new rooms.
Computerized simulations. Right now they have a massive military force built up just in case they hit adamantine and follow the vein to a glowing pit.
Say it isn't true. How ever could someone be so cruel as to scam people who just want to do minimal work, never leave the house, and yet still make thousands per week?
Because running a work-at-home scam requires minimal work, you never have to leave the house, and you still make thousands per week.
EA actually caring about their developers and artists... That's even funnier!
And the fact that I would have implicitly believed every last word of it if it were said in the days of Caveman Ugh-lympics and Archon? That just makes me want to cry.
By that algorithm, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration could be the NLC.
So NASA is selling beer in Newfoundland now? I know their budget has seen better days, but I don't know if alcohol is the answer.
So it's what a company does with the information that determines whether they're evil or not.
Only so far. Owning a tactical nuke doesn't mean a person is crazy enough to use it, but it doesn't make me want to live nearby either. The fact that they're not only collecting data but the CEO is directing unfounded and nebulous accusations at his critics - essentially he's saying that anyone who complains is doing something wrong - has me worried. Besides, his job is to maximize profits for his company, not to serve the non-paying hordes who use his website. Eric Schmidt wakes up thinking about how to not be evil about as often as Steve Ballmer wakes up thinking about my potential.
If google are just using to increase the relevancy of their adverts, that hardly makes it evil.
The people who complained during the whole Gmail-using-mail-text-to-target-ads thing see it another way.
As for the bacon and eggs thing, one could argue that it's fairer for all on the average if the insurance does go higher up for that person.
So where does it stop? Several coworkers are smokers? Don't walk enough hours per week? When do you stop basic demographics and start digging too deep into a person's life? Plus, while I don't know the entire truth of her case and probably never will, I think Nathalie Blanchard has something to say about a single random data point being used to determine insurance.
Actually, the money does go to the people who own the copyrights.
That's how bad the music industry is--the typical recording contract involves a record company giving a loan to the artist (an "advance") who then finances the recording (including advertising.) The loan is paid back from owed royalties before the artist sees a dime, and when all is said and done, the record companies come out owning the copyrights to the finished product.
In addition, the advance and the royalty rate are set by the record company, and set in such a way that if the album is successful but not successful enough to go super-mega-ultra-platinum, you won't make back enough to pay back the advance. In other words, you can make a very popular album and still wind up owing your label money.
Ain't it grand? And we thought debt bondage was something only pimps and slave traders did.
Just a thought:
Before downloading the album, send the band a check for $10 or so, to "do with as they see fit."
Is it still illegal to download the album? Is the burden now shifted to the musicians to pay the corporations?
It's still wrong, because the musicians aren't allowed to do things like that. It's in their contracts - the publisher gets the cash and gives the musician whatever fraction of a percent was agreed in the contract the musician signed when he was too poor to afford a contact lawyer to explain the fine print. See, that's the fair and legal way to do things!
Also, personally, I preordered an album on vinyl, then proceeded to download the album and have been enjoying it for the past few weeks. The thing is, I don't actually have possession, I simply paid for something that I'll get at some point in the future. Is this still wrong?
Well, since major copyright holders insist that any format shifting is wrong, then from their point of view, it doesn't matter if you order the album, wait for it to arrive, rip the music yourself from the copy you bought, and never distribute it beyond your own PC, it's STILL wrong.
Yet you post all over the Internet. So I guess you aren't really hiding everything.
So if you complain about Google you lose your right to complain about Google? You do realize Joseph Heller didn't write utopian fiction, right?
When was it suddenly a good idea to put private information on the Internet.
So, if Anonymous Coward mentions he likes cherry pie, that somehow means Google is allowed to know what books Mike Somebody at 123 Elm St. Anytown reads and use that information however the hell they like?
I half agree, but just to play devil's advocate, why do you worry/care if someone knows say... what taste your music is like, or what you had for breakfast yesterday?
Wow, you sure do have bacon and eggs a lot. People in that demographic often have higher cholesterol, making you a high risk. Your insurance premiums have been increased accordingly. Have a nice day!
Chances are VERY few would care very much, unless they knew you, or they shared your interests anyway.
The problem is, the very few people who care are EXACTLY the people who shouldn't have it. They're not your friends; if your friends want to know what books you read, or what music you like, or what food you eat, they ask. Or more likely they already know from hanging around with you.
Almost anyone willing to put the effort into tracking down personal information on you without alerting you needs the information but assumes you would refuse to tell them or lie about it. This pretty much boils things down to companies looking to market to your weaknesses or someone looking for dirt, neither of which has your best interests in mind.
Every time I hear the "Well, if you have nothing to hide..." canard, I want to scream.
Ditto. Though I found I can occasionally shut people up by saying "If you have nothing to hide, then what's your social security number? Credit card numbers and expiry dates? Medical history?"
Really, the Pet Shop Boys song "Integral" gets more depressing every day.
She has not aged well.
My fantasies are ruined.
Time's a bitch. But then, I've seen that happen before. Hell, a girl I had a severe crush on in high school managed to age about 20 years during her college years. A computer screen between two people can be a blessing because that first "Oh my God what happened to you?" look doesn't transmit.
Not only have I played Phoenix Wright, but also SimCity and Civilization. I'm pretty sure that qualifies me for President in 2012. I'm also fairly certain I know the cheatcode to fix the economy.
I'm not qualified at all, but I'm the only candidate not afraid to save scum until I get it right.
Like, will it still count as masturbation if he uses the cybernetic hand?
Yes, but he will have the option of also calling it "cybersex".
But will Gadget ever figure it out? Probably not.
I doubt he will, because Dr. Claw will get him next time. Next time.
I'd rather spend it learning something interesting, not twiddling with SATA cables or burn testing memory chips.
Some people think that IS interesting. See also baking your own pastry and tweaking your car engine.
I've put enough together to know that it's about as complicated as legos and it no longer qualifies anyone for a "geek" card.
Geek designation being subjective, I won't argue that point. But saying it's as (un)complicated as Lego is severe hyperbole. I seriously doubt Lego sees as many broken pieces coming back because they were installed wrong as your average computer store service department technician does. Let's see...
DDR 1/2/3 RAM for a board with some other kind of RAM. Or, just buying the fastest stuff out there without checking if the board can support it.
Laptop RAM for a desktop.
AMD CPU, Intel board. Or, AM2 CPU/AM3 board or Core 2 CPU/Core i7 board.
RAM or CPU of any flavor, bought right but installed backwards.
Dragging the board along standoffs and ruining the traces on the underside.
Forgetting the standoffs entirely so the board is right against the case. (Bonus points if you start arguing with the tech that you're an A+ certification instructor and that's how it's SUPPOSED to be built.)
Wrong numbers of or misplaced standoffs.
Somehow swapping the +4 of a 20+4 PSU and the 4 pin CPU power. Or the 8 pin CPU power and the 8 pin PCI-E.
Case USB plugged into motherboard Firewire port, or vice versa. Front panel sound plugged into whereever it will fit, usually a 13(?) pin digital audio header, but once into the IDE header.
Thinking all those extra cables coming off the PSU must go SOMEWHERE and plugging them in wherever. (Floppy power to any motherboard port, typically.)
Having the ground pins on the I/O shield INSIDE the ports instead of resting on top of (this is as common as dirt, I'm afraid).
Not using the I/O shield and then complaining about the dust getting through the big hole in the back.
Installing fans wrong so they fight against each other rather than encourage good airflow.
Not grounding one's body before working, or doing it once and then thinking you don't have to do it again after you walk across that nice carpet to get something.
Drinking pop while doing the install.
Trying to recycle parts from a 486 era system into a new one. Like case and power supply.
Assuming, at any point at all, that tin snips or physical exertion will be required to make something fit.
A qualification for intelligence? Whatever, my 8 year old nephew assembled his own computer. Congratulations, you are as smart as a 3rd grader.
Congratulations on forgetting every single joke about programming VCRs, using computers, and working remote controls with more than 20 buttons in the past two decades.
But it's not as easy as all that. And never will be. A person can luck out, or do it well enough, but building ANYTHING from scratch has pitfalls.
On the other hand, his contract never said he wasn't able to run these types of background calculation programs.
Probably doesn't outright say he can't use the PCs as an altar to sacrifice goats to Sauron, but that doesn't mean he can.
Even superintendent Denise Birdwell admitted, "We support educational research and certainly would have supported cancer research." So the issue is not the installation of the program, which would have been okay if the technician had installed Cancer@Home instead.
Perhaps, but she could just be saving face. If it was cancer research, they'd say they supported some other use, or that the extra power bills cost some kids new schoolbooks or something.
I answer the same to Thais when they ask "What days of the week were you born on?" and to westerners' "What's your sign?" Unfortunately, I can't pretend I don't know my birth date.
If you can even give a toss about this, try figure out what the LEAST compatible sign for each sign is, then ask them theirs and adjust yours to fit. Not like you want someone who really buys into that around you a lot anyway, right?
It's still stupid, and as a Canadian I'm just glad that I live in Quebec and we run our program separately. english version. ... though someone should tell them the blink tag is dead!
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Why is a Carnot reference here? Probably because there's not that many publications with user forums where you can mention a thermodynamic cycle in the first paragraph and get back responses more coherent than "I saw Lance Armstrong riding one of those!"
do i even need to bring up the constitution here? free speech anyone?
Since it's a corporation, it's not bound by the First Amendment.
Hey, wait, that means bringing up the Constitution is off topic.
Very good.
BTW: If this proves viable, expect the patent to be bought by someone who will fight/bribe tooth and nail to have "Animal Slavery" outlawed
That will be a bad thing? Since lobbying and bribery accomplish so much muck, why not let them have a beneficial effect for a change?
Changing laws specifically so one individual or group has great power over everyone else is always a bad thing, no matter what the fringe benefits are.
If people stop eating actual animals, we'll be overrun with chickens in a decade. Up to our friggin' ears I tells ya! We'll have to carve our way through with machetes while wearing goalie masks.
You say this like it's a bad thing.