place such a tempting button halfway down the longest finger... the scroll wheel has been moved from its middle-finger position to a bi-directional button at the side
Two things. You probably never used that scroll wheel as intended. Also, you probably never saw a good logitech mouse.
we should be hearing it ALL THE TIME since taking stabs at new ideas shouldn't be successful all the time
Thing is, if you're working on an idea, and the solution you try doesn't seem to work [which happens quite frequently], you just move on, and eventually you'll be able to solve the problem someway. If too much time is spent and no viable solution seems to be found, then it's time to move on, unless you have unlimited time and resources to waste. Havign said that, outsiders don't usually hear about failed ideas because 1). if a solution is found, it is published, the failures are not, 2). a funded project usually doesn't have such explicitely narrow goals that it only would have one and only one solution which means at least some parts will be done/finished/solved/etc and then it's prettier to say it's partially successfull than to say it's mostly a failure.
Now please tell us then, why most og the big studios use Maya on linux and not on windows ? Also, please tell us why most of the professionals use Photoshop on a mac and not on windows ? I don't even want to go into render apps and farms.
And from the average user's perspective, anything more than 0 steps is too many.
Now this is the type of arrogant ignorance I get series headaches from when I come across it. How many steps did you require to learn to use a Windows ? Ok, scrap that. What you mean is that you got so so mentally stuck and so unable to change, to learn and to adapt, or became simply too fragging lazy to even consider using anything else than some good/bad [doesn't really matter] app you got used to ? If that's the case I really deeply feel sorry for you, but all I can say is that all you get is what you deserve. God forbid you happen to drop into a situation where you need to learn new things. What will you do, hang yourself ? Bah, I'm outa here.
When they hear "you have to learn more to do that" they throw a temper tantrum then throw the computer out the window
Yeah, right, good attitude. So e.g. if a new developer/company comes out with a better pro audio editing solution for Windows than all others, they won't use it ever, because they don't want to learn doing things a different way ? Yeah, crowd says Linux distros and FOSS apps are wierd, hard to learn, etc., which is quite a aubjective and biased assessment. Saying they don't have time to learn new stuff is just plain ridiculous, a very lame excuse, if somebody was working for me and saying things like that (s)he would have 10 seconds left to leave the building for good.
Typical microsoftish pr talk, one of those that makes me puke this time early in the morning. My point is that e.g. among all my friends and other people I know only quite a limited number of them uses yahoo's or microsoft's im applications for messaging. Even if they have msn and/or yahoo ids. Quite a lot of people (fortunately) know alternative, lightveight, less obtrusive, nicer, faster, etc. applications which they can use instead, and quite a lot of them support many different im networks simultaneously
At the end, I don't think that merging the two im clients would necessarily mean increased client-using userbase, unless they think the users do not use anything else besides msn or yahoo, and their respective clients.
So it's simple, it only uses
- Python,
- SQLObject,
- CherryPy,
- Kid,
- MochiKit,
- some extra pythonic glue.
I know you don't really have to know these to trash together some wiki. Still, I would never ever in this life give the task to someone who doesn't know them just uses them (by some higher level lib or toolkit whatever).
All in all, I find it nice that there are quite some number of ways for mostly average skilled users to put together stuff like that wiki. Still, for a real task, I'd prefer someone who can make it all happen with one or max two languages and some db backend.
If they want to be paid, they must first come forward with a marketable product. This isn't "hey, I'll pay you and then you make something," it's "hey, if you make something good I'll pay for it."
Marketable product ? You miss the whole point, concept, philosophy and driving force behind FOSS development. You wrongly assume - probably can't get out of your mental box office - that every single human that writes a line of code does it for getting paid for it. Wrong. Thousands of developers - without whom the FOSS world would not exist - do their free development work after real paid work, finding time aside professional work and family to dedicate some fo their time and effort for creating FOSS software.
Of course, who wouldn't like to get some form of appreciation for a long time devoted free work ? Some get it as user mails thanking their efforts, some fo them are lucky enough to get some donation of real payment, but there are quite a lot of them who probably don't get anything. But, for most of them the appreciation of the community is the real payment.
Your philosphy of every code is for profit is the result of the dozens of years of behavior that large software comanies have pushed upon the masses.
All in all, if every FOSS developer would only work for money, Linux, foo/Linux distros, GNU and the whole concept of free software wouldn't exist. Instead, it's a growing, evolving, enthusiastic community of people.
And hey, you'd probably be quite surprised to find out how many professional software developers are involved in how many FOSS application development, those who you call hobbyists.
How seriously can anyone take software that's just a hobby?
Ignorance won't help you here. Oh wait, this is/. Whatever. The point is, it's "hobby" because most developers do FOSS development in their free time, and if most of them wouldn't do it because they like it, they wouldn't do it at all. And since this is something they like doing, and they do it in their free time, it's naturally called a hobby. "Professional" is what most people call what you do for a company for a paycheck.
I mean every game has some built-in scripting language at some level, without it game development would be a much more major pain in the ass. Of course, most of these are not publicly available, yet still, how is it news, that python can be used to develop such a scripting language ? How would it be news if they said almost any other language can be used to build such a scripting language ? Ehh, sunday morning.
If facelift means DRM'd time/copy/read/etc-limited electronic versions, then I don't really want any of that facelift. If it means books would also be available in some electronic form on reauest, with and without DRM, then I'd say probably okay. Generally I think I'd welcome much much more a solution where pritned books would be available as they are now, but a vastly enourmosuly huge electronic library with online access would be made available for a subscription fee where we could lend electronic versions of printed books, should the need arise.
I, personally, would never ever prefer buying an electronic-only reduced rights book over a traditional paper edition.
I mean, From March 2005 to September 2005 ?! Good god, I thought ignorance could no longer make me mad, but yes, it can. Educate us please, 1) how many versions of IE were released in this timespan, 2) how many vulnerabilities were disclosed about IE6 since it was released, 3) how many vulnerabilities had IE when it had the same [release] age as Firefox has now, 4) how does the patch release speed of Firefox and IE compare, 5) how does the feature set of Firefox and IE compare, 6) how does the size, stability, platform support, plugin support of Firefox and IE compare, 7) how many vulnerabilties of IE's and how many of Firefox's were/could in fact be exploited by worms and trojans in this period.
I could go on with this, but for me, even these questions are more important, by a magnitude, than how many exploits were discovered.
I guess you know nothing about the "Spore" game (check at http://www.pqhp.com/cmp/gdctv/). A friend of mine sent me the link, and the game seem nothing less than amazing.
They said the same about walkmans back in the day. I'd like to see some real statistics about how many people went deaf from walkman listening, then some real statistics about how many went deaf from portable music player listening, then maybe I'll start paying attention. Until then, all this is just yet another guy's need for attention.
Yeah, and you're the guy who tells who's who, right ? Or else, what did you do for FOSS in the weight of ESR that you feel you're entitled to call him a fraud and his work nothing ?
Linux users should understand that "idiot" users using an "idiot" distribution is okay
I'm also fed up with some things, like ignorant idiotic "Linux [distro] reviews" and "Linux will be ready for [substitute as required] in 5 years" rants.
For the record, I have nothing against making one or more distribuions which would target the joe6pack masses, the "idiot" user base who doesn't know a kernel from an OS, a computer from a monitor, etc.
What I don't like is when dozens of reviews say Linux is a piece of junk because the usual computer-illiterate is not able to click his/her way through the installation process, because they can't be expected to know their hardware, and so on, coming to the conclusiont hat Linux is not ready for anything.
What I'd like my point to be here is that Linux is ready for a huge variety of things. Literally. It just takes a few energetic people and some funding to prepare a 6pack-friendly disto. Besides that, it is already ready to be used for datacenters, web server farms, clusters, developer workstations, and I could just go on with this, and many of you could even name exemples for them with known big players to back up the claims.
Stating anything that sounds like "Linux is/isnot/will/willnot be ready for this/that in 1/2/3/... years/ever" is just plain fraggin' stupid and idiotic. There is no "linux". Linux is what you make of it. One could correctly state that there does not exist a specific Linux distro that would specifically target the 6pack clicking crowd, but one should not state that such a distro could not be developed.
I can imageine what the slashdot opinion is. Still, I don't have anything against it. It's a nice game, it's no problem that they make money from it for a longer period. All others have to do is make a better, nicer, more addictive game. E.g. take a look at the demo that was given on the GDC (www.gdconf.com) on Spore (I'm not affiliated).
and if you refill the cartridge you are liable for patent infringement
Seriously, who fraggin' cares ? Thise who did refilling for money will probably manage, no worry, and those who refill themselves, nobody cares about them. So again, who cares ? Damn, this must be a monday morning:]
... I mean you can only fight PR with PR. It was abotu time that after the some dozen MS-sponsored "objetive" tco campaigns a big player stands up and makes a campaign in favour of Linux.
Don't get me wrong, I would never blindly trust any campaign's result which is payed by the winner. Still, for the masses it is important that a big player says Linux tco is lower. It really matters.
What you call fraud, some call help. It's not a big job to cure a Windows machine from its deadly diseases. The job should be giving information to those users, to let them know why their machine ended up like that, what in that is their fault and what is not their fault, what are the ways and options of avoiding it to happen again, etc. People mostly do what they do based on very limited information and/or knowledge. Providing them with information and making them able to choose is (should be) an important task.
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place such a tempting button halfway down the longest finger ... the scroll wheel has been moved from its middle-finger position to a bi-directional button at the side
Two things. You probably never used that scroll wheel as intended. Also, you probably never saw a good logitech mouse.
we should be hearing it ALL THE TIME since taking stabs at new ideas shouldn't be successful all the time
Thing is, if you're working on an idea, and the solution you try doesn't seem to work [which happens quite frequently], you just move on, and eventually you'll be able to solve the problem someway. If too much time is spent and no viable solution seems to be found, then it's time to move on, unless you have unlimited time and resources to waste. Havign said that, outsiders don't usually hear about failed ideas because 1). if a solution is found, it is published, the failures are not, 2). a funded project usually doesn't have such explicitely narrow goals that it only would have one and only one solution which means at least some parts will be done/finished/solved/etc and then it's prettier to say it's partially successfull than to say it's mostly a failure.
Ok. It either is LED-based, or it's an LCD. It can't be a LED-based LCD.
Most people use 3dsMax and/or Maya, and Photoshop
Now please tell us then, why most og the big studios use Maya on linux and not on windows ? Also, please tell us why most of the professionals use Photoshop on a mac and not on windows ? I don't even want to go into render apps and farms.
special industry only on windows not linux or macs
Which can also be true for quite a number of apps which have only mac or linux versions.
And from the average user's perspective, anything more than 0 steps is too many.
Now this is the type of arrogant ignorance I get series headaches from when I come across it. How many steps did you require to learn to use a Windows ? Ok, scrap that. What you mean is that you got so so mentally stuck and so unable to change, to learn and to adapt, or became simply too fragging lazy to even consider using anything else than some good/bad [doesn't really matter] app you got used to ? If that's the case I really deeply feel sorry for you, but all I can say is that all you get is what you deserve. God forbid you happen to drop into a situation where you need to learn new things. What will you do, hang yourself ? Bah, I'm outa here.
When they hear "you have to learn more to do that" they throw a temper tantrum then throw the computer out the window
Yeah, right, good attitude. So e.g. if a new developer/company comes out with a better pro audio editing solution for Windows than all others, they won't use it ever, because they don't want to learn doing things a different way ? Yeah, crowd says Linux distros and FOSS apps are wierd, hard to learn, etc., which is quite a aubjective and biased assessment. Saying they don't have time to learn new stuff is just plain ridiculous, a very lame excuse, if somebody was working for me and saying things like that (s)he would have 10 seconds left to leave the building for good.
44% of the instant messaging market
Typical microsoftish pr talk, one of those that makes me puke this time early in the morning. My point is that e.g. among all my friends and other people I know only quite a limited number of them uses yahoo's or microsoft's im applications for messaging. Even if they have msn and/or yahoo ids. Quite a lot of people (fortunately) know alternative, lightveight, less obtrusive, nicer, faster, etc. applications which they can use instead, and quite a lot of them support many different im networks simultaneously
At the end, I don't think that merging the two im clients would necessarily mean increased client-using userbase, unless they think the users do not use anything else besides msn or yahoo, and their respective clients.
So it's simple, it only uses
- Python,
- SQLObject,
- CherryPy,
- Kid,
- MochiKit,
- some extra pythonic glue.
I know you don't really have to know these to trash together some wiki. Still, I would never ever in this life give the task to someone who doesn't know them just uses them (by some higher level lib or toolkit whatever).
All in all, I find it nice that there are quite some number of ways for mostly average skilled users to put together stuff like that wiki. Still, for a real task, I'd prefer someone who can make it all happen with one or max two languages and some db backend.
If they want to be paid, they must first come forward with a marketable product. This isn't "hey, I'll pay you and then you make something," it's "hey, if you make something good I'll pay for it."
Marketable product ? You miss the whole point, concept, philosophy and driving force behind FOSS development. You wrongly assume - probably can't get out of your mental box office - that every single human that writes a line of code does it for getting paid for it. Wrong. Thousands of developers - without whom the FOSS world would not exist - do their free development work after real paid work, finding time aside professional work and family to dedicate some fo their time and effort for creating FOSS software.
Of course, who wouldn't like to get some form of appreciation for a long time devoted free work ? Some get it as user mails thanking their efforts, some fo them are lucky enough to get some donation of real payment, but there are quite a lot of them who probably don't get anything. But, for most of them the appreciation of the community is the real payment.
Your philosphy of every code is for profit is the result of the dozens of years of behavior that large software comanies have pushed upon the masses.
All in all, if every FOSS developer would only work for money, Linux, foo/Linux distros, GNU and the whole concept of free software wouldn't exist. Instead, it's a growing, evolving, enthusiastic community of people.
And hey, you'd probably be quite surprised to find out how many professional software developers are involved in how many FOSS application development, those who you call hobbyists.
How seriously can anyone take software that's just a hobby?
/. Whatever. The point is, it's "hobby" because most developers do FOSS development in their free time, and if most of them wouldn't do it because they like it, they wouldn't do it at all. And since this is something they like doing, and they do it in their free time, it's naturally called a hobby. "Professional" is what most people call what you do for a company for a paycheck.
Ignorance won't help you here. Oh wait, this is
I mean every game has some built-in scripting language at some level, without it game development would be a much more major pain in the ass. Of course, most of these are not publicly available, yet still, how is it news, that python can be used to develop such a scripting language ? How would it be news if they said almost any other language can be used to build such a scripting language ? Ehh, sunday morning.
If facelift means DRM'd time/copy/read/etc-limited electronic versions, then I don't really want any of that facelift. If it means books would also be available in some electronic form on reauest, with and without DRM, then I'd say probably okay. Generally I think I'd welcome much much more a solution where pritned books would be available as they are now, but a vastly enourmosuly huge electronic library with online access would be made available for a subscription fee where we could lend electronic versions of printed books, should the need arise.
I, personally, would never ever prefer buying an electronic-only reduced rights book over a traditional paper edition.
I mean, From March 2005 to September 2005 ?! Good god, I thought ignorance could no longer make me mad, but yes, it can. Educate us please, 1) how many versions of IE were released in this timespan, 2) how many vulnerabilities were disclosed about IE6 since it was released, 3) how many vulnerabilities had IE when it had the same [release] age as Firefox has now, 4) how does the patch release speed of Firefox and IE compare, 5) how does the feature set of Firefox and IE compare, 6) how does the size, stability, platform support, plugin support of Firefox and IE compare, 7) how many vulnerabilties of IE's and how many of Firefox's were/could in fact be exploited by worms and trojans in this period.
I could go on with this, but for me, even these questions are more important, by a magnitude, than how many exploits were discovered.
I guess you know nothing about the "Spore" game (check at http://www.pqhp.com/cmp/gdctv/). A friend of mine sent me the link, and the game seem nothing less than amazing.
They said the same about walkmans back in the day. I'd like to see some real statistics about how many people went deaf from walkman listening, then some real statistics about how many went deaf from portable music player listening, then maybe I'll start paying attention. Until then, all this is just yet another guy's need for attention.
Yes, instead of our rights being "eroded", we should erode a few heads gere and there and we should be done with it.
I am not as well known as ESR in general linux circles
I'm no audio professional, still, all I can say regarding your work on JACK and Ardour: respect !
About MS "changing", yeah, right. Only possible anwser to that would be: 1xaction>1000xword.
Yeah, and you're the guy who tells who's who, right ? Or else, what did you do for FOSS in the weight of ESR that you feel you're entitled to call him a fraud and his work nothing ?
Never mind.
Linux users should understand that "idiot" users using an "idiot" distribution is okay
I'm also fed up with some things, like ignorant idiotic "Linux [distro] reviews" and "Linux will be ready for [substitute as required] in 5 years" rants.
For the record, I have nothing against making one or more distribuions which would target the joe6pack masses, the "idiot" user base who doesn't know a kernel from an OS, a computer from a monitor, etc.
What I don't like is when dozens of reviews say Linux is a piece of junk because the usual computer-illiterate is not able to click his/her way through the installation process, because they can't be expected to know their hardware, and so on, coming to the conclusiont hat Linux is not ready for anything.
What I'd like my point to be here is that Linux is ready for a huge variety of things. Literally. It just takes a few energetic people and some funding to prepare a 6pack-friendly disto. Besides that, it is already ready to be used for datacenters, web server farms, clusters, developer workstations, and I could just go on with this, and many of you could even name exemples for them with known big players to back up the claims.
Stating anything that sounds like "Linux is/isnot/will/willnot be ready for this/that in 1/2/3/... years/ever" is just plain fraggin' stupid and idiotic. There is no "linux". Linux is what you make of it. One could correctly state that there does not exist a specific Linux distro that would specifically target the 6pack clicking crowd, but one should not state that such a distro could not be developed.
I can imageine what the slashdot opinion is. Still, I don't have anything against it. It's a nice game, it's no problem that they make money from it for a longer period. All others have to do is make a better, nicer, more addictive game. E.g. take a look at the demo that was given on the GDC (www.gdconf.com) on Spore (I'm not affiliated).
and if you refill the cartridge you are liable for patent infringement
:]
Seriously, who fraggin' cares ? Thise who did refilling for money will probably manage, no worry, and those who refill themselves, nobody cares about them. So again, who cares ? Damn, this must be a monday morning
employ "copyright" and "licenses" -- also known as "legal restrictions" -- that prevent you from doing things
First I wanted to say this anonymously, but then I changed my mind: you are a freakin' idiot.
... I mean you can only fight PR with PR. It was abotu time that after the some dozen MS-sponsored "objetive" tco campaigns a big player stands up and makes a campaign in favour of Linux.
Don't get me wrong, I would never blindly trust any campaign's result which is payed by the winner. Still, for the masses it is important that a big player says Linux tco is lower. It really matters.
IBM, thumbsup.
What you call fraud, some call help. It's not a big job to cure a Windows machine from its deadly diseases. The job should be giving information to those users, to let them know why their machine ended up like that, what in that is their fault and what is not their fault, what are the ways and options of avoiding it to happen again, etc. People mostly do what they do based on very limited information and/or knowledge. Providing them with information and making them able to choose is (should be) an important task.