Are these people just repackaging news from the mainstream news sources? Doesn't duplication introduce the potential for there to be omissions of important information? What is the benefit of a service like this one?
I use both regularly. VS.NET 2005 at work most of the time, and Eclipse for the OSS development and some side projects.
As far as writing code goes, Eclipse still beats the poop out of VS.NET 2005. Better refactoring and formatting options, TODO and FIXME integration into the task pane (I can't stress how important this is), and that cool strip beside the scrollbar that shows where errors, warnings and tasks are located in the file. I consider these features indispensable and I notice them not being there in VS.NET. I write a lot of code that has to be well documented so I like that I can set Eclipse to view an undocumented method or member as an warning or even an error so that it won't compile. A lot of these options can be set on a project to project basis too. Useful if you write a lot of code, or are writing code with people using different code style than you do (and you want to play nicely). Or how about file icons in the project panel showing whether there are errors or warnings in the file, or whether they're up to date with source control...I could go on and on, but I won't.
I guess the downside of Eclipse is that once and awhile you can feel it lagging, even on a faster machine...I can't say this bothers me much though.
I do like all the integrated tools and palettes VS.NET 2005 provides. I also like the organizational tools for websites (although they're kind of shoving their ideas down your throat...but the ideas aren't bad). Code completion is fast. Unnamed bookmarks are great (I can't STAND that I have to name bookmarks in Eclipse). Support for source control system plugins (thank god, not everyone uses Sourcesafe). Not to mention super tight integration with their framework, which rocks I might add. The new refactoring tools are nice as well. It's a great editor, no doubt.
But if you asked me what I'd rather write code in, I'd pick Eclipse, hands down.
This is the case according to Windows live. Google local reports 8 pizza places within a few kilometers of my house. I do like my pizza.
And man is that Windows Live interface terrible. The scaling of images to zoom in looks terrible.
On that note, I will continue to use Google.
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Not for experienced developers? VB.net is just another language that compiles down to MSIL, so you can do anything that C# does. Although I'm not too big a fan of the syntax, this language can do a ton.
And how can you not like debuggers? They can save you a lot of time, and accomplish things that tracing never can. The new version of VB.net even lets you edit code while debugging (just like the old versions of VB)...how's that for cool?
I'm a serious web developer, and I want it...I just don't want to use Macromedia's tools to build it.
That's why I'm developing ActionStep (check my link). It's an open-source (BSD) implementation of OpenStep (Apple's Cocoa is another implemenation), and is compiled using the open source MTASC compiler. ActionStep is a full out application development library, and some of our contributors have been having amazing success deploying great client apps quickly using Ruby on the backend.
I read Popular Science when I was a teenager, and I now enjoy Wired. Wired appeals to me now for the same reasons PS appealed to me then, although they aren't exactly the same.
Scientific American goes more into depth on science subjects, but you also get little to no gadgets and cool stuff.
Every computer science class involving programming that I've taken (at the University of Toronto) involves unit testing, regardless of the language used.
The Orz always freaked me out. I never knew what the hell they were talking about, and man did you not want to make them angry. Those space marines were a force to be reckoned with.
Ever notice that you don't know shit?
Little software companies are great! The teams are small and elite. No rampant hiring policies, no idiot business types (maybe save a few sales people). Software devs are in control, as they should be.
There was support for this in ASP.NET 1 I believe.
And it's just URL rewriting to pass sess ids as far as I can tell...nothing more. I think that most web languages do that.
Flash is just a tool. You'll find that anyone building a serious application will not design anything "Flashy" in Flash. These applications are the ones you're most likely to *have* to use (and maybe even want to use?).
The other, effects-laden pages are not important and thus easily ignored.
I know hating Flash is the popular opinion to have right now but developers are working hard to make it better. Open-source frameworks are becoming more popular (including the application framework based on Cocoa to which I contribute, ActionStep) that are compatible with the open-source compiler, MTASC. There is nothing flashy about this Framework, and it has been seen to be faster than Macromedia's framework.
Give Flash a chance. If you're using the right tools, you might find it to be an enjoyable experience that creates a good product.
Just thought I'd mention that the new Flash virtual machine coming out in a few months time is about 5-10X faster by Macromedia's claims, and these claims have been backed up by users of the public alpha (myself included).
The days of Flash killing your CPU cycles may soon be history.
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I'm not trying to flame, I'm really wondering.
Are these people just repackaging news from the mainstream news sources? Doesn't duplication introduce the potential for there to be omissions of important information? What is the benefit of a service like this one?
I use both regularly. VS.NET 2005 at work most of the time, and Eclipse for the OSS development and some side projects.
As far as writing code goes, Eclipse still beats the poop out of VS.NET 2005. Better refactoring and formatting options, TODO and FIXME integration into the task pane (I can't stress how important this is), and that cool strip beside the scrollbar that shows where errors, warnings and tasks are located in the file. I consider these features indispensable and I notice them not being there in VS.NET. I write a lot of code that has to be well documented so I like that I can set Eclipse to view an undocumented method or member as an warning or even an error so that it won't compile. A lot of these options can be set on a project to project basis too. Useful if you write a lot of code, or are writing code with people using different code style than you do (and you want to play nicely). Or how about file icons in the project panel showing whether there are errors or warnings in the file, or whether they're up to date with source control...I could go on and on, but I won't.
I guess the downside of Eclipse is that once and awhile you can feel it lagging, even on a faster machine...I can't say this bothers me much though.
I do like all the integrated tools and palettes VS.NET 2005 provides. I also like the organizational tools for websites (although they're kind of shoving their ideas down your throat...but the ideas aren't bad). Code completion is fast. Unnamed bookmarks are great (I can't STAND that I have to name bookmarks in Eclipse). Support for source control system plugins (thank god, not everyone uses Sourcesafe). Not to mention super tight integration with their framework, which rocks I might add. The new refactoring tools are nice as well. It's a great editor, no doubt.
But if you asked me what I'd rather write code in, I'd pick Eclipse, hands down.
This is the case according to Windows live. Google local reports 8 pizza places within a few kilometers of my house. I do like my pizza.
And man is that Windows Live interface terrible. The scaling of images to zoom in looks terrible.
On that note, I will continue to use Google.
Not for experienced developers? VB.net is just another language that compiles down to MSIL, so you can do anything that C# does. Although I'm not too big a fan of the syntax, this language can do a ton. And how can you not like debuggers? They can save you a lot of time, and accomplish things that tracing never can. The new version of VB.net even lets you edit code while debugging (just like the old versions of VB)...how's that for cool?
The Flash player download already includes the Yahoo toolbar...something that I don't think wants.
I'm a serious web developer, and I want it...I just don't want to use Macromedia's tools to build it.
That's why I'm developing ActionStep (check my link). It's an open-source (BSD) implementation of OpenStep (Apple's Cocoa is another implemenation), and is compiled using the open source MTASC compiler. ActionStep is a full out application development library, and some of our contributors have been having amazing success deploying great client apps quickly using Ruby on the backend.
Check it out!
Just out of interest, what are some alternatives? I really don't know.
Did I hear someone say "free ham sandwich"?
Offtopic? This is hilarious! Someone mod this guy up.
You think that's hard? Feel lucky you aren't me. Computational complexity would scare the living daylight out of you.
What exactly about this is Web 2.0?
You, and your Web 2.0, are ridiculous.
I read Popular Science when I was a teenager, and I now enjoy Wired. Wired appeals to me now for the same reasons PS appealed to me then, although they aren't exactly the same. Scientific American goes more into depth on science subjects, but you also get little to no gadgets and cool stuff.
Um...no.
Every computer science class involving programming that I've taken (at the University of Toronto) involves unit testing, regardless of the language used.
How many times do people have to say this?
WE GET IT ALREADY. Google is all-seeing, all-knowing. FEAR GOOGLE! Run! Run now!
Oh, and don't forget, "the web empowers you".
And why are those buzzwords an image...graaahhhh. It drives me nuts!
oh wait...the go go go space marines were Ur-Quan...ah, it doesn't matter. Great game!
The Orz always freaked me out. I never knew what the hell they were talking about, and man did you not want to make them angry. Those space marines were a force to be reckoned with.
"Go! Go! Go!"
Ever notice that you don't know shit? Little software companies are great! The teams are small and elite. No rampant hiring policies, no idiot business types (maybe save a few sales people). Software devs are in control, as they should be.
There was support for this in ASP.NET 1 I believe. And it's just URL rewriting to pass sess ids as far as I can tell...nothing more. I think that most web languages do that.
Is this some sort of cipher? I've been seeing these around...what do they mean?
Man does that make me angry.
Flash is just a tool. You'll find that anyone building a serious application will not design anything "Flashy" in Flash. These applications are the ones you're most likely to *have* to use (and maybe even want to use?).
The other, effects-laden pages are not important and thus easily ignored.
I know hating Flash is the popular opinion to have right now but developers are working hard to make it better. Open-source frameworks are becoming more popular (including the application framework based on Cocoa to which I contribute, ActionStep) that are compatible with the open-source compiler, MTASC. There is nothing flashy about this Framework, and it has been seen to be faster than Macromedia's framework.
Give Flash a chance. If you're using the right tools, you might find it to be an enjoyable experience that creates a good product.
Sorry for the OT rant.
Just thought I'd mention that the new Flash virtual machine coming out in a few months time is about 5-10X faster by Macromedia's claims, and these claims have been backed up by users of the public alpha (myself included). The days of Flash killing your CPU cycles may soon be history.