Sorry for being such an ass. I realize you meant "quiet", but seeing that typo over and over in your comment felt like someone was repeatedly stabbing my brain with a toothpick:(
Possibly. I just look at the numbers (over 3 years in relative peace, then several strong (as in easy to do by customer) cracks in under a year) involved, and that many of the people trying to crack it now says they only started because linux support was removed.
Did the Sony engineers remove it because they knew this would happen, or did this happen because they removed the support? Did the chicken come before the egg, and was he wearing a condom? We don't know.
However, one thing that I have been thinking about these last minutes.. I don't see why this is the end of the world for Sony. There are a limited number of games using the old key. And with crypto signing / verification you usually work on a hash.. Let's say that the hash is 256bit long (rather overkill, really), and there are 30.000 games released (Wikipedia lists 653 games, but I don't think it's complete. Plus you probably have different versions and locales) - that's still under 1MB of data. It's perfectly doable for them to make a whitelist of hashes allowed to use the old key. And if they use exceptionally large hashes for some reason, or validate against the whole binary code... Just sha256 it. Done deal. If performance is a problem (scanning the table) you could make an index of it during firmware upgrade, or have a local cache of valid hashes.
In short, I see absolutely no reason why they couldn't do this. Sure, it's a lot of work, and you're almost guaranteed to miss some.. But the alternatives are worse. Just give the ones with problems some free store credit, everyone is happy, and The Disaster(TM) is easily averted.
That's true. And Sony have been boasting of having the toughest DRM of all consoles.
However, it only took half a year from removing Linux support, and in that short period have had many partially successful attacks against it. Before, while they had the Linux support, such stories were remarkably rarer.
Many critics meant that the continued security of the console was partially because they allowed linux to run on it, and so many of the talented people had no reason to look closer at it. Since PS3, after four year of "DRM cracking almost never heard of" have now gone to "Completely broken" in just over half a year's time, I think they have a point there.
It's not that it was that much more secure, it's just that most of the really talented people had no reason to look into it.
[Anonymous is] the first internet-based superconsciousness. Anonymous is a group, in the sense that a flock of birds is a group. How do you know they're a group? Because they're travelling in the same direction. At any given moment, more birds could join, leave, peel off in another direction entirely.
Yea and some people think the Klan has the right idea. They are also wrong.
You're doing it wrong, you're supposed to say "the nazis" there.
*sigh* what is the world coming to when people can't even Godwin properly?:(
Anyway, your argument have the same logic as:
Yea and some people think Mahatma Gandhi had the right idea. They are also right.
and thus that is a valid rebuttal. Now, can you get some actual, original arguments going? You're starting to lose the entertainment value here.
BTW, want some fun fact? Citation Wikipedia
Writing on the subject of immigration in 1903, Gandhi commented: "We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do... We believe also that the white race in South Africa should be the predominating race."
During his time in South Africa, Gandhi protested repeatedly about the social classification of blacks with Indians, whom he described as "undoubtedly infinitely superior to the Kaffirs"
Quite the enlightened hero indeed. And some more fun, about the Boston Tea Party:
That evening, a group of 30 to 130 men, some of them thinly disguised as Mohawk Indians, boarded the three vessels and, over the course of three hours, dumped all 342 chests of tea into the water.
They were even disguised as indians! Truly just barbaric thugs that didn't believe anything in what they did!
(Sidenote, I wonder if it's still possible to get "+5, Troll" moderation?)
Please this is simple and harmful vandalism. Nothing more that a few colonists pretending that they are some kind of freedom fighter. Next week those Bostons will attack some company that only offers tea instead of coffee.
Fixed?
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terro... erm I mean script kiddie.
Hurr durr, and that's why they're targeting their corporate web page, and not their payment services (maybe apart from paypal, which runs both on same systems). Thank you for showing that you have no clue what you're talking about. GG BB QQ.
It was around then I realised that there was no such thing as a concrete rule, simply a sensible rule of thumb. Oh yes, and that certain lecturers lived on a totally different planet and only occasionally visited Earth.
Congratulations! You've already learned the important lessons. If you swap the world "lecturers" with "managers" the wisdom also applies to future workplaces:)
This annoys me a lot (Happens especially in RPG's, so that's what I'll use for example):
Here I am. Deadliest thing on the planet. Incredible size and strength, I carry a minigun on each hand, which I do microsurgery with from a mile off. In my backpack I have enough bulliets to kill the full army of a medium sized country, and enough explosives to level said country into a parking lot afterwards.
So why is it that I find myself standing in front of a rickety wooden door, half rotted away already, with a crude, rusty lock, and can't open it because my lockpicking isn't high enough? Seriously?
Basically, it's the game maker's failure to see more than one solution to a proposed problem. You can see it in all genres, but RPG's are the star example of it. When things like that happens, it turns me off the game pretty quickly.
On the other hand, when the game allows creativety, things can be pretty fun:) Like one mission in GTA 1 (still remember it after all this time), where you were supposed to kill some dude. Pretty standard, right? So drive over, jump out, and runs towards the goal marker on the map. Met by 4 people with machine guns + target standing right outside a building. Screw that, pull back after noticing their position, steal a fast car, full speed, and SPLAT. Mission complete.
I've also had several games bug when doing creative stuff like that. Like not completing objective, suddenly popping up invisible walls, items despawning, or even seen games crashing because of it. Not fun:(
These repeaters have been in the news here in Norway a bit. They're legal to buy, but need permit from telecompany to use (which NEVER happens, as far as I can tell).
The big, big problems with these repeaters is that if not correctly set up, they can create feedback loops with nearby cell tower(s) and effectively block all mobile phone use in the area. This have already happen at least once (The town of Voss, iirc. Lost mobile coverage over half the area until the repeater was shut down).
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Should fit perfectly to this audience, then.
I'm sure he just down-wrote it so he wouldn't alienate us with fancy words and sentences.
Grok's head hurt now. Me go smash some linux box.
Already done. My current ATI card was a direct response to AMD starting to open source the drivers.
And this from a customer that have bought Nvidia exclusively since the first GeForce card.
Quite what?
Sorry for being such an ass. I realize you meant "quiet", but seeing that typo over and over in your comment felt like someone was repeatedly stabbing my brain with a toothpick :(
You mean like this? The natural progression of games
Possibly. I just look at the numbers (over 3 years in relative peace, then several strong (as in easy to do by customer) cracks in under a year) involved, and that many of the people trying to crack it now says they only started because linux support was removed.
Did the Sony engineers remove it because they knew this would happen, or did this happen because they removed the support? Did the chicken come before the egg, and was he wearing a condom? We don't know.
However, one thing that I have been thinking about these last minutes.. I don't see why this is the end of the world for Sony. There are a limited number of games using the old key. And with crypto signing / verification you usually work on a hash.. Let's say that the hash is 256bit long (rather overkill, really), and there are 30.000 games released (Wikipedia lists 653 games, but I don't think it's complete. Plus you probably have different versions and locales) - that's still under 1MB of data. It's perfectly doable for them to make a whitelist of hashes allowed to use the old key. And if they use exceptionally large hashes for some reason, or validate against the whole binary code... Just sha256 it. Done deal. If performance is a problem (scanning the table) you could make an index of it during firmware upgrade, or have a local cache of valid hashes.
In short, I see absolutely no reason why they couldn't do this. Sure, it's a lot of work, and you're almost guaranteed to miss some.. But the alternatives are worse. Just give the ones with problems some free store credit, everyone is happy, and The Disaster(TM) is easily averted.
That's true. And Sony have been boasting of having the toughest DRM of all consoles.
However, it only took half a year from removing Linux support, and in that short period have had many partially successful attacks against it. Before, while they had the Linux support, such stories were remarkably rarer.
Many critics meant that the continued security of the console was partially because they allowed linux to run on it, and so many of the talented people had no reason to look closer at it. Since PS3, after four year of "DRM cracking almost never heard of" have now gone to "Completely broken" in just over half a year's time, I think they have a point there.
It's not that it was that much more secure, it's just that most of the really talented people had no reason to look into it.
U mad?
One of the better descriptions I've heard:
[Anonymous is] the first internet-based superconsciousness. Anonymous is a group, in the sense that a flock of birds is a group. How do you know they're a group? Because they're travelling in the same direction. At any given moment, more birds could join, leave, peel off in another direction entirely.
From the wikipedia page.
Yea and some people think the Klan has the right idea. They are also wrong.
You're doing it wrong, you're supposed to say "the nazis" there.
*sigh* what is the world coming to when people can't even Godwin properly? :(
Anyway, your argument have the same logic as :
Yea and some people think Mahatma Gandhi had the right idea. They are also right.
and thus that is a valid rebuttal. Now, can you get some actual, original arguments going? You're starting to lose the entertainment value here.
BTW, want some fun fact?
Citation Wikipedia
Writing on the subject of immigration in 1903, Gandhi commented: "We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do... We believe also that the white race in South Africa should be the predominating race."
During his time in South Africa, Gandhi protested repeatedly about the social classification of blacks with Indians, whom he described as "undoubtedly infinitely superior to the Kaffirs"
Quite the enlightened hero indeed. And some more fun, about the Boston Tea Party:
That evening, a group of 30 to 130 men, some of them thinly disguised as Mohawk Indians, boarded the three vessels and, over the course of three hours, dumped all 342 chests of tea into the water.
They were even disguised as indians! Truly just barbaric thugs that didn't believe anything in what they did!
(Sidenote, I wonder if it's still possible to get "+5, Troll" moderation?)
Or Hashapass for a more portable solution.
It's pure javascript, so you can for example store the page on your cell phone and use it offline.
Please this is simple and harmful vandalism. Nothing more that a few colonists pretending that they are some kind of freedom fighter. Next week those Bostons will attack some company that only offers tea instead of coffee.
Fixed?
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terro... erm I mean script kiddie.
Hurr durr, and that's why they're targeting their corporate web page, and not their payment services (maybe apart from paypal, which runs both on same systems). Thank you for showing that you have no clue what you're talking about. GG BB QQ.
I think they just did, in their own way.
My two questions when reading that:
1. If there is a null pointer in there, what would the return be?
2. Would the return be any more useful than the default mode (which would be crash + burn)?
Sometimes a picture can tell more than 1k words
It was around then I realised that there was no such thing as a concrete rule, simply a sensible rule of thumb. Oh yes, and that certain lecturers lived on a totally different planet and only occasionally visited Earth.
Congratulations! You've already learned the important lessons. If you swap the world "lecturers" with "managers" the wisdom also applies to future workplaces :)
Is it really that hard to include a link to Ubuntu's official Alpha 1 page, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1 ?
Yes, apparently. Natty Narwhal Alpha 1
You make a compelling point there.
Maybe I should become a /. editor, since I already seem to have the vital skills :D
Is it really that hard to include a link to Ubuntu's official Alpha 1 page, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1 ?
Oh wait, guess there's not enough annoying ads and popups on that page..
"I just Jesus'ed the newest movie! It was awesome!"
I think you're on to something here. Who's starting up JesusBay.Com ?
Now, it would be a shame if someone took some stolen credit cards and sent him a lot of money... Right? Truly bad indeed.
Isn't it obvious? They will be too busy fighting ninjas to run such an operation. Besides, the money used on rum will be criminally high.
Why not? It worked fine for the muslims :)
And now they're progressed to "rent-a-rapist".
Repetition?
This annoys me a lot (Happens especially in RPG's, so that's what I'll use for example):
Here I am. Deadliest thing on the planet. Incredible size and strength, I carry a minigun on each hand, which I do microsurgery with from a mile off. In my backpack I have enough bulliets to kill the full army of a medium sized country, and enough explosives to level said country into a parking lot afterwards.
So why is it that I find myself standing in front of a rickety wooden door, half rotted away already, with a crude, rusty lock, and can't open it because my lockpicking isn't high enough? Seriously?
Basically, it's the game maker's failure to see more than one solution to a proposed problem. You can see it in all genres, but RPG's are the star example of it. When things like that happens, it turns me off the game pretty quickly.
On the other hand, when the game allows creativety, things can be pretty fun :) Like one mission in GTA 1 (still remember it after all this time), where you were supposed to kill some dude. Pretty standard, right? So drive over, jump out, and runs towards the goal marker on the map. Met by 4 people with machine guns + target standing right outside a building. Screw that, pull back after noticing their position, steal a fast car, full speed, and SPLAT. Mission complete.
I've also had several games bug when doing creative stuff like that. Like not completing objective, suddenly popping up invisible walls, items despawning, or even seen games crashing because of it. Not fun :(
These repeaters have been in the news here in Norway a bit. They're legal to buy, but need permit from telecompany to use (which NEVER happens, as far as I can tell).
The big, big problems with these repeaters is that if not correctly set up, they can create feedback loops with nearby cell tower(s) and effectively block all mobile phone use in the area. This have already happen at least once (The town of Voss, iirc. Lost mobile coverage over half the area until the repeater was shut down).