After my last horrific experience with their 4 in 1 driver set, I vowed to never touch another board with a VIA chipset again. That way lies maddness and death.
Plus the fact that it was the size and weight of a pair of house bricks. It was more of a laptop than a hand held. Ate through batteries like they were going out of fashion and I would just like to point out, for the record, California games was shit.
Damn. Been waiting over a decade to get that off my chest. Yes. I bought one.
I think he means: 'the critical mass has to come from windows'. Why? No technical reason
Yes, the critical mass, at least from the PC point of view, does have to come from windows. This is because windows has 90+ percent of the desktop OS market. The mac has about 5 per cent. You will_never_achieve this "critical mass" (what ever the hell that is) with out using windows. Fact.
Mind you, as has been pointed out, this means sweet FA as far as the ipod is concerned. I know several people who own ipods. To a man, they all use windows. I suspect that there may be more ipod users on windows than on mac. If there aren't, there will be soon.
Oh yeah. MS sucks. There, that should get me modded up.
If you don't have a name... describe the qualities that you would seek and why you seek them.
Never, never allow a get out clause like that. It makes absolutly sure you will not get a meaningfull answer. Both candidates will simply say "Well, I don't have a name, but I would look for blah blah fair blah blah strong blah blah respects the constitution blah blah integrity " and other meaningless crap.
A statement is only meaningful if you could have said the opposite. "I want a fair judge" is pointless, since no one would say they wanted an unfair one.
Of course, you won't get a single straight answer anyway, but why make it easy for them to cop out.
I personally believe every body should vote. I would also support forcing people by law to return their ballots. Not vote mind you, just a law saying that you must hand in your ballot paper, either in person or by post, to a polling station. A "none of the above" option could even be added.
the plain fact is, plenty of people browse websites that can ONLY be viewed properly in IE. I hate it. You hate it. But the fact is, people need to put more pressure on webmasters to create standards-compliant websites.(AHEM SLASHDOT)
I remember having an argument about standards compliance 4 years or so ago. Someone was complaining about a web page I had done not rendering properly in Netscape, and he said (rough quote) "Why can't you just design your pages in accordance with the comonly held standards?"
My reply was along the lines of "90+ percent of people use IE. whats so common about the other 5 or so percent."
I still think this holds true today. IE IS the standard. (disclaimer, I'm typing this in Firefox) You are going to have an uphill struggle to force sites to re-write for non IE browsers, at least with Mozilla's tiny present market share.
A better idea would be to try and make Mozilla render pages as close to the way IE does as possible.
And just for the record, I fixed the page so it rendered in Netscape. Anything for a quiet life.
Maybe the spyware would start displaying the following:
"If windows asks about changing dialup settings, remember to click Yes or you won't see [Insert_Celeb_Name] tits."
All of these problems are caused by operating under Admin anyway, because if I remember rightly, you can't change things like this as a normal user.
The problems mnight stop if users on windows did not run as admin by default. Or that message might start reading:
"If windows asks for your admin password, enter it or you won't see [Insert_Celeb_Name] tits."
As you said: Never underestimate the gullibility of your userbase.
Video game star? What video game was he in besides T2: Arcade?
Virtually every Arnie action movies has a game spun off from it. Red Heat, T1/2, Total Recall, Running Man, Predator, the list goes on. Red Heat was the firts game I bought on disk for my Spectrum +3.
Well Lets face it, none of us have done a survey on this have we? And furthermore, none of us will trust an industry sponsored survey. So all we can do is base an estimate based on personal experience.
So, speaking from my personal experience, I do not know of One_Single_Person who uses windows who does not have some pirated software on their box.
"I wonder how Bush would do in a Prime Minister's Question time that Blair blazes through every Wednesday"
You know, a friend of mine was just saying the other day that we should abolish PMQ's. After all, it's not like Blair ever gives a straight answer.
I have a different view. I think PMQ's performs a very important function. It ensures we will never have a moron as PM. Oh, we've had planty of nutty, misguided, and downright evil PM's, but 20th/21st century prime minister could honestly be described as stupid.
"It won't be around for very much longer....Nice thing about open source is that I don't have to worry about copies becoming scarce when the vendor discontinues it.
That is the one thing that worries me. I have my copies, so I really could not care less if it becomes scarce. But I do expect to be forced to move on in a couple of years when hardware no longer ships with win 98 drivers.
Oh my god! Out of your 31 point list, all I've done is install a firewall. My box must be toast by now!
Wait...no, looks like it's working fine. Could it be that your wrong? Yes, I think it could.
The only security measure I have taken to protect my Win 98 partition is installing Zone Alarm. So far, it appears to be the only security measure I need to take. The litany of woes you describe just dosn't happen.
Please note, I'm talking about Windows 98 NOT XP. If the average home user asks me to recomend an OS, Win98 SE is the one I normally go for. I really, honestly, do believe it is a better choice for most home users than Linux.
"It seems as if we've forgotten who the typical Windows user is. No, they won't do any of the things mentioned above,...... Really, when it comes down to it, why not just recommend Linux? With all the hoops you'd jump through to secure a Windows box"
To be honest, the average user won't be installing an OS from scratch, so it's a moot point, but lets pretend they are. Which is easier?
When windows 98 (that is what we were talking about) has finished installing, install Zone Alarm before you go online.
OR
When Mandrake has finished installing, learn how to use a new OS and a whole new suite of applications?
Go on, answer that and stay fashionable.
I use Linux (Slackware) myself, and I agree it is easy to use, but if you think learning a new OS is easier than double clicking on the Zone Alarm installer, then you are, quite frankly, deluded.
As it happens, my brothers store bought XP system has just died. I'm going to wipe it and install windows 98 this weekend. I did think about recomending Linux. He's a reasonably IT savy chap, I figured I could teach him how to use it. But it's missing his one desperatly needed killer app, Championship Manager, so no go there.
All these horror stories I'm reading about peoples installations being destroyed within 5 seconds of turning on their modems are nothing like my experience of Windows.
Here's how my last windows installation went.
1)Install win98
2)Install Zone Alarm
3)Plug in modem
And that really is it. The box is still running fine 4 months later. I'm typing on it right now.
Why would anybody connect to the net before they have a firewall running?
I expect this will get modded down, since it's not another horror story, but I just don't have the problems you guys are talking about
The vendors are obeying the GPL, so they aren't guilty of copyright infringement. They're careful not to use the software's real name, so of course they aren't guilty of misusing our trademarks.
So, whats your point? Are you saying you disklike people re-branding your software and selling copies of it? If so, might I suggest you do not release it under the GPL.
They might be in violation of deceptive advertising laws
I doubt it. Advertisers are under no obligation to point out that cheaper alternatives (in this case, the same thing for free) are available. If they were, Microsoft would never sell another copy of office.
If the license violation was detected, would anyone have the resources to enforce the license?
That is a pretty big if. After all, if I take some source code from an OSS project and cut n' paste it into my closed source app, how would you ever know?
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VIA you say? *shudder*
After my last horrific experience with their 4 in 1 driver set, I vowed to never touch another board with a VIA chipset again. That way lies maddness and death.
"Atari Lynx: Poor game selection, battery life."
Plus the fact that it was the size and weight of a pair of house bricks. It was more of a laptop than a hand held. Ate through batteries like they were going out of fashion and I would just like to point out, for the record, California games was shit.
Damn. Been waiting over a decade to get that off my chest. Yes. I bought one.
I think he means: 'the critical mass has to come from windows'. Why? No technical reason
Yes, the critical mass, at least from the PC point of view, does have to come from windows. This is because windows has 90+ percent of the desktop OS market. The mac has about 5 per cent.
You will_never_achieve this "critical mass" (what ever the hell that is) with out using windows. Fact.
Mind you, as has been pointed out, this means sweet FA as far as the ipod is concerned. I know several people who own ipods. To a man, they all use windows. I suspect that there may be more ipod users on windows than on mac. If there aren't, there will be soon.
Oh yeah. MS sucks. There, that should get me modded up.
It's a video game, right? But, but, you don't shoot things?
And there are no rocket luanchers? Or machine guns?
No, I just don't understand.
Seriously, I had'nt heard of this, but it looks fantastic.
Do MS really think Russians are going to stop pirating the fully featured version because they get a copy of this crippleware witht their PC?
When you can get a pirate copy of XP pro for next to nothing, your smply going to bring your new PC home, format it and install your full version.
I don't see this cutting piracy at all. In fact, it will probably encourage piracy.
If you don't have a name... describe the qualities that you would seek and why you seek them.
Never, never allow a get out clause like that. It makes absolutly sure you will not get a meaningfull answer. Both candidates will simply say "Well, I don't have a name, but I would look for blah blah fair blah blah strong blah blah respects the constitution blah blah integrity " and other meaningless crap.
A statement is only meaningful if you could have said the opposite. "I want a fair judge" is pointless, since no one would say they wanted an unfair one.
Of course, you won't get a single straight answer anyway, but why make it easy for them to cop out.
I personally believe every body should vote. I would also support forcing people by law to return their ballots. Not vote mind you, just a law saying that you must hand in your ballot paper, either in person or by post, to a polling station. A "none of the above" option could even be added.
the plain fact is, plenty of people browse websites that can ONLY be viewed properly in IE. I hate it. You hate it. But the fact is, people need to put more pressure on webmasters to create standards-compliant websites.(AHEM SLASHDOT)
I remember having an argument about standards compliance 4 years or so ago. Someone was complaining about a web page I had done not rendering properly in Netscape, and he said (rough quote) "Why can't you just design your pages in accordance with the comonly held standards?"
My reply was along the lines of "90+ percent of people use IE. whats so common about the other 5 or so percent."
I still think this holds true today. IE IS the standard. (disclaimer, I'm typing this in Firefox) You are going to have an uphill struggle to force sites to re-write for non IE browsers, at least with Mozilla's tiny present market share.
A better idea would be to try and make Mozilla render pages as close to the way IE does as possible.
And just for the record, I fixed the page so it rendered in Netscape. Anything for a quiet life.
Maybe the spyware would start displaying the following:
:
"If windows asks about changing dialup settings, remember to click Yes or you won't see [Insert_Celeb_Name] tits."
All of these problems are caused by operating under Admin anyway, because if I remember rightly, you can't change things like this as a normal user.
The problems mnight stop if users on windows did not run as admin by default. Or that message might start reading
"If windows asks for your admin password, enter it or you won't see [Insert_Celeb_Name] tits."
As you said: Never underestimate the gullibility of your userbase.
Video game star? What video game was he in besides T2: Arcade?
Virtually every Arnie action movies has a game spun off from it. Red Heat, T1/2, Total Recall, Running Man, Predator, the list goes on. Red Heat was the firts game I bought on disk for my Spectrum +3.
...welcome our new computer graphics ninja overlords.
Well Lets face it, none of us have done a survey on this have we? And furthermore, none of us will trust an industry sponsored survey. So all we can do is base an estimate based on personal experience.
So, speaking from my personal experience, I do not know of One_Single_Person who uses windows who does not have some pirated software on their box.
Except me. Honest
"I wonder how Bush would do in a Prime Minister's Question time that Blair blazes through every Wednesday"
You know, a friend of mine was just saying the other day that we should abolish PMQ's. After all, it's not like Blair ever gives a straight answer.
I have a different view. I think PMQ's performs a very important function. It ensures we will never have a moron as PM. Oh, we've had planty of nutty, misguided, and downright evil PM's, but 20th/21st century prime minister could honestly be described as stupid.
"One thing that Microsoft Word continues to have are some features very useful for the average user."
You've got to be joking. A grammar checker? Anyone else here just dying for a grammar checker?
Repeat after me..."Slashdot readers are NOT average users. Slashdot readers are NOT average users."
Just think, he could have patented this in the 80's, then turned up 300 years to file for damages and 3 centuries of back dated licensing.
"It won't be around for very much longer....Nice thing about open source is that I don't have to worry about copies becoming scarce when the vendor discontinues it. That is the one thing that worries me. I have my copies, so I really could not care less if it becomes scarce. But I do expect to be forced to move on in a couple of years when hardware no longer ships with win 98 drivers.
-1 Troll? I think he was probably going for a +3 funny. It's a joke. Clearly someone has mod points but no sense of humor.
a cute animated paperKlip?
Oh my god! Out of your 31 point list, all I've done is install a firewall. My box must be toast by now!
Wait...no, looks like it's working fine. Could it be that your wrong? Yes, I think it could.
The only security measure I have taken to protect my Win 98 partition is installing Zone Alarm. So far, it appears to be the only security measure I need to take. The litany of woes you describe just dosn't happen.
Please note, I'm talking about Windows 98 NOT XP. If the average home user asks me to recomend an OS, Win98 SE is the one I normally go for. I really, honestly, do believe it is a better choice for most home users than Linux.
Ok, I'll bite.
...... Really, when it comes down to it, why not just recommend Linux? With all the hoops you'd jump through to secure a Windows box"
"It seems as if we've forgotten who the typical Windows user is. No, they won't do any of the things mentioned above,
To be honest, the average user won't be installing an OS from scratch, so it's a moot point, but lets pretend they are. Which is easier?
When windows 98 (that is what we were talking about) has finished installing, install Zone Alarm before you go online.
OR
When Mandrake has finished installing, learn how to use a new OS and a whole new suite of applications?
Go on, answer that and stay fashionable.
I use Linux (Slackware) myself, and I agree it is easy to use, but if you think learning a new OS is easier than double clicking on the Zone Alarm installer, then you are, quite frankly, deluded.
As it happens, my brothers store bought XP system has just died. I'm going to wipe it and install windows 98 this weekend. I did think about recomending Linux. He's a reasonably IT savy chap, I figured I could teach him how to use it. But it's missing his one desperatly needed killer app, Championship Manager, so no go there.
I have to say I agree with you there. I "upgraded" to XP, now I'm back with win 98.
I've used ME (Windows: Massive Error) too, and I have now decided to stick with 98 until I am forced to dump it
More porn, faster!
All these horror stories I'm reading about peoples installations being destroyed within 5 seconds of turning on their modems are nothing like my experience of Windows.
Here's how my last windows installation went.
1)Install win98
2)Install Zone Alarm
3)Plug in modem
And that really is it. The box is still running fine 4 months later. I'm typing on it right now.
Why would anybody connect to the net before they have a firewall running?
I expect this will get modded down, since it's not another horror story, but I just don't have the problems you guys are talking about
The vendors are obeying the GPL, so they aren't guilty of copyright infringement. They're careful not to use the software's real name, so of course they aren't guilty of misusing our trademarks.
So, whats your point? Are you saying you disklike people re-branding your software and selling copies of it? If so, might I suggest you do not release it under the GPL.
They might be in violation of deceptive advertising laws
I doubt it. Advertisers are under no obligation to point out that cheaper alternatives (in this case, the same thing for free) are available. If they were, Microsoft would never sell another copy of office.
If the license violation was detected, would anyone have the resources to enforce the license?
That is a pretty big if. After all, if I take some source code from an OSS project and cut n' paste it into my closed source app, how would you ever know?