If the gNewSense people were satisfied with Gobuntu, then gNewSense would not need to be maintained. However they continue to insist that their version is free and Gobuntu is not, for the reasons I stated. If you think that's not correct, feel free to comment constructively, instead of what you actually posted.
Furthermore, Paul O'Malley was working on Gnubuntu and Ubuntu-libre before gNewSense was ever conceived, so perhaps you meant to say that gNewSense was released before Gobuntu - big difference, especially if you're planning to respond so arrogantly.
That's true, but the point being made is that it should run locally. That way it won't depend on his site being available - which it currently is not - nor would I be sharing all my Google searches with a new site that I do not trust. I also wouldn't have to open a browser to use it, although most of the time you're going to open the browser next anyway.
I like the options, but it should be a local script. Maybe when the source is posted we can just copy the php down and bookmark the file.
Maybe part of your problem is that the FA is wrong. Mark Shuttleworth would not rather focus on gNewSense, but if the community is not interested in Canonical's Gobuntu work, then that community should go off and do their thing, and he will try to support them wherever it makes sense. In other words, if less collaboration is what they want, then that can be accommodated.
The Colorado Rapids play at Dick's Sporting Goods Park. The locals just say that they are going down to "The Dick". So you see, these things happen in the commercial world too.
Except that the lone G usually signifies Gnome. They've admitted that it's not a great name, but they say that they haven't come up with anything they like better. If it depends on their ability to come up with a good name, I think this one is here to stay.
Secondly, there is already a free version of Ubuntu, called Gobuntu. gNewSense exists because "pure" isn't good enough for some people. Some of the issues were:
-Gobuntu uses the Ubuntu repositories, so you could, if you wanted, install non-free software. -The binaries had non-free removed, but the source packages, if you downloaded them, would not. -Some Ubuntu OS "enhancements" encouraged the downloading of proprietary software. -Gobuntu/Ubuntu development uses Launchpad, which is a non-open-source server application. (Nevermind that it's not runnning on your computer. Nevermind that you couldn't modify Canonical's version even if it was OSS. Nevermind that these same people use Google, etc.)
So, if any of these reasons make any sense to you, or if you'd just like a pat on the back from RMS, then gNS might be for you.
The Mini Inspiron appears to have made the same compromise. In this regard, the MSI Wind looks promising. The HP Mini-Note has gotten favorable reviews for it's keyboard, but is weak in other respects. Maybe 2nd gen Mini-Note will be a contender. I tend to think the MSI will be better, because like ASUS, they do their own engineering.
The unanimity of this point of view in the comments is heartening. If they have to push ads, they'll need to do better than this waste of space. Let's all recommend alternative products so that this slashvertizement backfires:
Ok, let's say want to work on a media player. I'm a programmer, but I don't have much experience in this area. I want to be my own boss, have completely flexible hours, and collaborate, entirely remotely, with people I can learn from. How am I supposed to get paid for this?
If the income opportunity is not there, then I'm not losing anything. Or maybe you would say that I'm still losing $20,000? If I'm losing $20,000 whether I program or not, I may as well program.
I don't get paid overtime, so seven hours for $350 sounds like a good deal for me. Especially, since it's for installing and customizing a Linux distribution. Easy money! Sign me up.
H-Bomb?! I'm not surprised you didn't know that date.
Like or not (apparently "not") this is a small measure of IQ. It is difficult to make such questions culturally neutral, but if you speak English, then it's a fair question - not 1/10th of your score, of course. There are non-IQ reasons you might have missed it, but IQ tests are not exact.
I didn't see the answers, but if they were far apart, then you might have reasoned it out from other dates.
Clearly the solution is to prepare for your exit in your last weeks, and tell them one day before you go. Your co-workers may wonder why your passing on all this information on how to do your critical responsibilities, though. Maybe you should schedule vacation to allay suspicion.;-)
Seriously though, if this is a contest to decide the best way to wrap up your duties, you might as well have your input.
Give them one week notice - Prudent Give them two weeks notice - Generous Give them three or more weeks notice? You do realize they might give you two weeks severance pay on the spot and escort you out of the building, right? Or, if you mind being a paperweight for three or four weeks in a row, you only have yourself to blame when this happens to you.
My router comes with instructions to not even risk flashing through a wireless LAN connection
It must not have enough ram to hold the whole image. So, it starts flashing on the fly, and any interruption is fatal. This is a cheap router we're talking about, right?
No CLI involved - and compiz customization is not intended for the masses anyway. Surely this is not your example of why Ubuntu is not ready for the desktop.
I still want to know some "basic" configuration that cannot be changed without editing text.
Does he think he has no competition? If they require "real id" and other sites don't, then that's where the traffic will go. I'm already skipping news sites that require registration. I'm sure he remembers what that transition was like. Maybe he thinks he can wear us down with incremental changes. That is truly clueless, because he'll never get to where he wants to go. You were right about charging a fee,. That would identify most people, and it would probably be more successful than just asking for my CC number and not charging it, which seems damn suspicious. Just say, "we need $5 a year", and see how many people bite without thinking of privacy.... oh, and good luck with that;-)
BTW, those bastards are letting the googlebot freely roam their pages, but when a user follows the resulting link, he's slapped with the registration page. It's dishonest if you ask me. I don't even click on a New York Times link anymore. Mind you, I know I can just select the googlebot in my User Agent Switcher and get right in, but I don't need them to get the news, and I want them to know that.
"Consequently, because the Court has previously resolved all of the issues raised in Plaintiffs' motion to dismiss, and because the Court is not convinced that its prior decision was wrong, the Court needs no response from Defendant and the motion is due to be denied."
I think I understand very clearly their goal. I think it's worthy, up to the point where they don't want to use launchpad to manage and improve the distro. (It's run on a central server. Software freedom doesn't mean you get to modify someone else's copy anyway. How pointless.) I'm OK with removing kernel blobs, ditching Firefox, providing modified source packages, and not inviting or supporting the user to install non-free software. I think I mostly get it. So, how would having a more compelling name hurt this cause?
Don't they want to build a community that will identify with this disrto?
Don't they want to evangelize to new users that don't make the distinction between free and almost-free?
It's hard to imagine how they could have come up with something worse than "Gobuntu", and yet they did.
Slashdot Mirror
If the gNewSense people were satisfied with Gobuntu, then gNewSense would not need to be maintained. However they continue to insist that their version is free and Gobuntu is not, for the reasons I stated. If you think that's not correct, feel free to comment constructively, instead of what you actually posted.
Furthermore, Paul O'Malley was working on Gnubuntu and Ubuntu-libre before gNewSense was ever conceived, so perhaps you meant to say that gNewSense was released before Gobuntu - big difference, especially if you're planning to respond so arrogantly.
That's true, but the point being made is that it should run locally. That way it won't depend on his site being available - which it currently is not - nor would I be sharing all my Google searches with a new site that I do not trust. I also wouldn't have to open a browser to use it, although most of the time you're going to open the browser next anyway.
I like the options, but it should be a local script. Maybe when the source is posted we can just copy the php down and bookmark the file.
Are you saying that Gobuntu doesn't exist? Download it here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/releases/7.10/release/
or here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/daily/current/
Maybe part of your problem is that the FA is wrong. Mark Shuttleworth would not rather focus on gNewSense, but if the community is not interested in Canonical's Gobuntu work, then that community should go off and do their thing, and he will try to support them wherever it makes sense. In other words, if less collaboration is what they want, then that can be accommodated.
The Colorado Rapids play at Dick's Sporting Goods Park. The locals just say that they are going down to "The Dick". So you see, these things happen in the commercial world too.
Free and Open Source, because all coders should have the option to live as they choose...
;-)
Unless they choose non-free software, because then the OS should make it more difficult, otherwise they might hurt themselves
Except that the lone G usually signifies Gnome. They've admitted that it's not a great name, but they say that they haven't come up with anything they like better. If it depends on their ability to come up with a good name, I think this one is here to stay.
First of all, this is a dupe: http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/01/1153204
Secondly, there is already a free version of Ubuntu, called Gobuntu. gNewSense exists because "pure" isn't good enough for some people. Some of the issues were:
-Gobuntu uses the Ubuntu repositories, so you could, if you wanted, install non-free software.
-The binaries had non-free removed, but the source packages, if you downloaded them, would not.
-Some Ubuntu OS "enhancements" encouraged the downloading of proprietary software.
-Gobuntu/Ubuntu development uses Launchpad, which is a non-open-source server application. (Nevermind that it's not runnning on your computer. Nevermind that you couldn't modify Canonical's version even if it was OSS. Nevermind that these same people use Google, etc.)
So, if any of these reasons make any sense to you, or if you'd just like a pat on the back from RMS, then gNS might be for you.
The Mini Inspiron appears to have made the same compromise. In this regard, the MSI Wind looks promising. The HP Mini-Note has gotten favorable reviews for it's keyboard, but is weak in other respects. Maybe 2nd gen Mini-Note will be a contender. I tend to think the MSI will be better, because like ASUS, they do their own engineering.
"We were therefore distinctly underwhelmed when he said it was...a flash drive."
Join the party, pal.
The unanimity of this point of view in the comments is heartening. If they have to push ads, they'll need to do better than this waste of space. Let's all recommend alternative products so that this slashvertizement backfires:
Sony Micro Vault Tiny
PQI i810/i815
Ok, let's say want to work on a media player. I'm a programmer, but I don't have much experience in this area. I want to be my own boss, have completely flexible hours, and collaborate, entirely remotely, with people I can learn from. How am I supposed to get paid for this?
If the income opportunity is not there, then I'm not losing anything. Or maybe you would say that I'm still losing $20,000? If I'm losing $20,000 whether I program or not, I may as well program.
Wait a second. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with the parent?
Spun, you write good comments. You don't need to top-post/karma whore to be read.
I don't get paid overtime, so seven hours for $350 sounds like a good deal for me. Especially, since it's for installing and customizing a Linux distribution. Easy money! Sign me up.
H-Bomb?! I'm not surprised you didn't know that date.
Like or not (apparently "not") this is a small measure of IQ. It is difficult to make such questions culturally neutral, but if you speak English, then it's a fair question - not 1/10th of your score, of course. There are non-IQ reasons you might have missed it, but IQ tests are not exact.
I didn't see the answers, but if they were far apart, then you might have reasoned it out from other dates.
Clearly the solution is to prepare for your exit in your last weeks, and tell them one day before you go. Your co-workers may wonder why your passing on all this information on how to do your critical responsibilities, though. Maybe you should schedule vacation to allay suspicion. ;-)
Seriously though, if this is a contest to decide the best way to wrap up your duties, you might as well have your input.
Give them one week notice - Prudent
Give them two weeks notice - Generous
Give them three or more weeks notice? You do realize they might give you two weeks severance pay on the spot and escort you out of the building, right? Or, if you mind being a paperweight for three or four weeks in a row, you only have yourself to blame when this happens to you.
YAML is a recursive acronym for ...
Next!
This is an usually common reply to tech questions on message boards: "You shouldn't want to do that."
Can you at least wait until they've gotten a real answer or two?
My router comes with instructions to not even risk flashing through a wireless LAN connection
It must not have enough ram to hold the whole image. So, it starts flashing on the fly, and any interruption is fatal. This is a cheap router we're talking about, right?
Is this the end of the France bashing/WWI&II recap?! The MS bashing doesn't start until page 3? Unbelievable!
To turn on Compiz:
System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects->Extra
To configure:
System->Administration->compizconfig-settings-manager->Apply
System->Preferences->Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
No CLI involved - and compiz customization is not intended for the masses anyway. Surely this is not your example of why Ubuntu is not ready for the desktop.
I still want to know some "basic" configuration that cannot be changed without editing text.
Preloaded Ubuntu has the initial configuration taken care of. Nobody will need to do this.
A) I was talking about the Post. The NYT reference was because they also do it. Sorry, it wasn't clear.
;-)
B) They stopped? Did I mention I don't click them anymore?
I think I'll remain one of the alientated.
Does he think he has no competition? If they require "real id" and other sites don't, then that's where the traffic will go. I'm already skipping news sites that require registration. I'm sure he remembers what that transition was like. Maybe he thinks he can wear us down with incremental changes. That is truly clueless, because he'll never get to where he wants to go. You were right about charging a fee,. That would identify most people, and it would probably be more successful than just asking for my CC number and not charging it, which seems damn suspicious. Just say, "we need $5 a year", and see how many people bite without thinking of privacy.... oh, and good luck with that ;-)
BTW, those bastards are letting the googlebot freely roam their pages, but when a user follows the resulting link, he's slapped with the registration page. It's dishonest if you ask me. I don't even click on a New York Times link anymore. Mind you, I know I can just select the googlebot in my User Agent Switcher and get right in, but I don't need them to get the news, and I want them to know that.
"Consequently, because the Court has previously resolved all of the issues raised in Plaintiffs' motion to dismiss, and because the Court is not convinced that its prior decision was wrong, the Court needs no response from Defendant and the motion is due to be denied."
Translation: Not this shit again.
I think I understand very clearly their goal. I think it's worthy, up to the point where they don't want to use launchpad to manage and improve the distro. (It's run on a central server. Software freedom doesn't mean you get to modify someone else's copy anyway. How pointless.) I'm OK with removing kernel blobs, ditching Firefox, providing modified source packages, and not inviting or supporting the user to install non-free software. I think I mostly get it. So, how would having a more compelling name hurt this cause?
Don't they want to build a community that will identify with this disrto?
Don't they want to evangelize to new users that don't make the distinction between free and almost-free?
It's hard to imagine how they could have come up with something worse than "Gobuntu", and yet they did.