"Linux is already making progress in smartphones."
From Series 60 Developer Platform 1.0/2.0: Basics paper:
Symbian C++ APIs enable extremely efficient multitasking and memory management. Memory-intensive operations such as context switching are minimized. Symbian OS is primarily event-driven rather than multithreaded. Multithreading is possible but is avoided because it potentially creates several kilobytes of overhead per thread. Conversely, a primarily event-driven approach doesn t need any context switching and can have an overhead as low as a few tens of bytes. Special attention has been given to designing the Symbian OS to be robust and reliable. Among the user requirements that were kept in mind when the Symbian OS was developed were that user data should never be lost and that the device should never have to be rebooted (there isn t a boot sequence when the device is turned on). This has been achieved by:
Effective memory management that prevents memory leaks Releasing resources as soon as they are no longer needed
Effective error-handling framework that handles out-of-memory errors properly
Secure data storage
Careful and device-specific power management
I know that there allready exists Linux smartphones, but how do they perform in "real life"?
As far as I know, it's not even possible to develop Symbian mobile apps on linux (lack of emulators), which is a drag, so come on, give us Linux smartphones, or Mr Symbian, release some emulators for Linux (a lá suns java-WTK) or else.....
I did some searching on google and yahoo, and I found nothing besides a note on an cached copy on yahoo of www.mbloom.co that says that the cherryos is moving to an own site (www.cherryos.com), google hasn't even indexed the page (that doesn't really tell us too much...) yet. The cached page on yahoo is broken:(
I have the model: 90FB REV B and it used to shut down, everytime this happened i noticed that it was burning hot (Since I have been messing with my kernel, Klaptop didn't work, hence no warning...) so I ripped out a big heatsink from an optiplex gxl 5100 (133 MHz?) and GLUED it to the adapter. Problem fixed! I wish slashdot had a way of publishing pics so you could see it (very ugly)...
It's only a matter of time before the UnmarkedBlackHelis is coming....
Think what this could do in the hands of TheTerrorists... They could destroy the American economy (and the American way of life as we know it). IT HAS TO BE STOPPED - SOMEONE CALL ASHCROFT!
IF the patent is enforceable (I don't know if that is the case) MS with their huge pile of cash should buy it from Kodak. THEN THEY WOULD OWN THE WORLD!!
The BigBoys that owns MS could do WHATEVER THEY WANTED!! They could bitchslap the Transport Minister of Afghanistan if they so saw fit, without getting into trouble;)
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10 years forward Linux and Windows will be the only OSs left in the market.
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stirring the pot are we?;)
He can't say "10 years forward Windows will be the only OSs left in the market." now can he?? (remember the european court has a ruling coming soon). He could say "10 years forward Macintosh and Windows will be the only OSs left in the market." but that would send too many to the mac sales rep. Whatever he puts in the "[any-os] and Windows will be the only OSs.." the "Linux" choice is the smartest, it will push (further) Schwartz and McNealy to launch their attack on RedHat . My guess is that he had those brainwashed to belive that LINUX is the threat to them, and if they would get back to former greatness, they could still get the high-end server market - "and between us [he put his arms around them, tilts his head and smiles], we don't plan to pursue the server market, we belive the desktop is our thing, you know, china and the expanding market" As they embraced the idea, he padded them on their backs and forwarded a bunch of cash as a part of a "bigger deal" and laught to himself.
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Sometimes, the people don't know what they want and you have to do the RIGHT thing for the country instead.
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You gotta be kidding?? Are you serious?
It's called democracy, and the people may not share YOUR opinions, but thats how it works. The idea is that you give them as much information as possible and let them (we, us, you) make a decision, that may or not may to be of your (or my) liking.
What's scary is that your view is very common among politicians and elitists. Our culture is seriosly (in my opinion) depraved in that respect.
I never had any doubt they would do it (ok, I know, one more to go...), this kind of leaps are only possible if you got passionate people doing their thing (design, testing, flying, sponsoring etc), and what really counts is the "where the rubber meats the track" mentality!
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If Sun were to put Java into the OS community, it would need to ensure that the write once run anywhere still worked >>
HAHAHA HIIiiiiii hiih.. Auch, You're killing me....ohhh hihi, good lord./me wipes the tears of cheek..
I'd like someone like Linus (but a little bit more of a facist) taking control of Java. I don't care if it's Sun or some open source dude, maybe a group run in an non democratic way.. or democratic if they all are sane... I don't know..But things have to improve!! As long as the control stays away from MS or any of a "special intrests" entity.
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"National Geographic News reports in this story that a giant, peanut shaped asteroid known as 4179 Toutatis will pass within 1 million miles of Earth on Weds, the 29th
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Gee.... I was expecting to be informed of a direct hit! That way I would be prepared for the chaos down town, the complete armageddon as the result of people running amok in cheer panic.
So, what are they using at dmoz?? There are tons of 403's in there. Not that I use dmoz, but it's suppose to be "serious". What other serious directories exists?
This is also what ppl in my surrondings are feeling. They dont use their gmail any more, somehow it makes them weary (the "we just scan your emails, and put it in a huge db"). This browser project makes me weary too, mostly becourse I don't understand WHY they are doing it...There are already free browsers around.
I wish there was some kind of study showing the importance of unis in the FOSS world, a LOT of the software I use was made or started in one uni or the other (most the rest is/was made by folks working for commersial sw companies, and a small part was made by folks working as paperboys).
This reminds me of the kind of debate that goes on in the corp world. Say, two guys (good guy, bad guy) argues the right way of using a product. One of the (good guy) says, "Well, Yea... I agree that everybody needs this soap, but it should be used with warm water", the other guy answers "No, no no no! It can be used with both cold AND warm water!". To add to the cred, the "disussion" turns ugly (now, this reminds me of the 2 dudes Bush&Kerry) and they start to throw soaps on eachother. Whereupon the good guy proceeded to take that mittenful of the deadly soap crystals and rub it all into his (bad guy) beady little eyes with a vigorous
circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area (this sound familiar), Well he (the bad guy) was very upset, as you can understand
And rightly so, because the
Deadly yellow snow crystals had
deprived him of his (hang on, yellow snow?? This is a RIPOFF!!).
Ehhrr ok, this has turned a itzy bit OT, so I wish U all a nice holiday!
I am a little bit worried of the term "prove". To "prove" something we need to colloborate something with a "known fact". We assume that the "known fact" (may that be a mathematical expression or a common belief, based on our common concius) is "true", but where did we get this "true" fact from?? I could play a "childish" game where I ask you "how do you know that an apple is attracted to the earth?", you would tell me the laws of gravity, and I would ask "how do you know that the gravity propogate through the three dimensions?", you would tell me that Newton proved it with is mathematical findings of the force is the inverse of the distance in square, that this is in line with the sphere's area relative to the distance of the center (this is ofcourse not a proof in it self, it's just very likely that it's related). I would ask you how this was proved, and we would go on to findings of the "old greeks", and finally I would question the fact that 1+1 is alway 2. And you would tell me that this is silly, I would argue that sometimes it's not, sometimes 1+1 is 3. It just happens once every gazillionth year. And we would be back to square 1. Now, whats up with that flying pig?
By the way, I think I suffer from sleep depravation (the cats keeps me awake, my body is aking).
P.S
I read somewhere that Boole "proved" that god exists...THAT would be fun to see.
They must be really carefull not to loose any highly-billed traffic. Thats why you cant put any java app on a three (3?) phone (nec?), at least thats what I read somewhere. You could write an java app that had an conn to a server, which in turn could send you data (when any of your friends decided to send you stuff) and you would be notified. Come to think about it, there already exists irc and IM software for java mobiles. No need for expensive SMS. Apart from the battery dying after a couple of hours, it works well.
The thing is, if the implementations of devices wasn't so retarded, there would be heaps of uses for bluetooth. To start with, there should be a sane API for the devices, not only bluetooth-wise, but the environment. If all phones had linux or symbian, or whatever, one could start building all kinds of cool apps for mobile devices but as it is now, the only environment these devices has in common is (usually) j2me, and as you all know, there doesnt really exists to many useful j2me applications, the reason is that all manufactors have their own little implementation of midpx. Try downloading a game (or if you can find a useful app), and you will see what I mean. How is this? Why?? Is it a conspiration of bill&co?? Do Nokia want to rule the mobile world with symbian?? Do MS want to rule the world with pocketPC?? Has SUN completely lost it??
Good lord, if this is true (I am not an American) I sure wonder what has happened to US. Or was it just me projecting ideas of what US was suppose to be....
I wonder if anyone except companies need encryption? I for one dont care too much, I dont mind anyone reading what I am typing in a IM session... mind you, I used to have ssl setup with jabber, but I didn't care to do it last time I changed computer. I do icq/irc chat over ssh (mobile ssh client) but thats not end to end...
P.S I changed Threshold to "1", most post by AC are useless anyway...
I remember some test involving ac powerlines, and they found that around them a whole bunch of of hazardous particles "hanged around" similar to what the effect of an ionic air cleaner gives, in each given moment the particles was on the way in one direction, next in the other direction, so in beetween the cable and the metal construction there was a huge amount of unhealthy particles.
I was under the impression that unless U take it with T3 (L-T3) you will get close to nothing (other than kicking the life out of your liver), and it will drain your wallet.. unless u have got fake, VERY common here in Europe..... I hope you know what you are doing... I am not trying to be an smart-ass, I just have seen so many wasting their money...
Regarding the steroids... you are smart, the best thing is to stay away.. ppl dont seem to understand how important the BALANCED diet is (and the timing of proteins and "right" carbs) and SLEEP. To me, the best performance enhancing tech is SLEEP. As soon I have an injury, I sleep (up to 15 hours a day).
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From Series 60 Developer Platform 1.0/2.0: Basics paper:
Symbian C++ APIs enable extremely efficient multitasking and memory management. Memory-intensive operations such as context switching are minimized. Symbian OS is primarily event-driven rather than multithreaded. Multithreading is possible but is avoided because it potentially creates several kilobytes of overhead per thread. Conversely, a primarily event-driven approach doesn t need any context switching and can have an overhead as low as a few tens of bytes. Special attention has been given to designing the Symbian OS to be robust and reliable. Among the user requirements that were kept in mind when the Symbian OS was developed were that user data should never be lost and that the device should never have to be rebooted (there isn t a boot sequence when the device is turned on). This has been achieved by:
Effective memory management that prevents memory leaks Releasing resources as soon as they are no longer needed
Effective error-handling framework that handles out-of-memory errors properly
Secure data storage
Careful and device-specific power management
I know that there allready exists Linux smartphones, but how do they perform in "real life"?
As far as I know, it's not even possible to develop Symbian mobile apps on linux (lack of emulators), which is a drag, so come on, give us Linux smartphones, or Mr Symbian, release some emulators for Linux (a lá suns java-WTK) or else.....
I did some searching on google and yahoo, and I found nothing besides a note on an cached copy on yahoo of www.mbloom.co that says that the cherryos is moving to an own site (www.cherryos.com), google hasn't even indexed the page (that doesn't really tell us too much...) yet. The cached page on yahoo is broken :(
The mloom site sells an pdf2html converter....
I have the model: 90FB REV B and it used to shut down, everytime this happened i noticed that it was burning hot (Since I have been messing with my kernel, Klaptop didn't work, hence no warning...) so I ripped out a big heatsink from an optiplex gxl 5100 (133 MHz?) and GLUED it to the adapter. Problem fixed! I wish slashdot had a way of publishing pics so you could see it (very ugly)...
It's only a matter of time before the UnmarkedBlackHelis is coming....
Think what this could do in the hands of TheTerrorists... They could destroy the American economy (and the American way of life as we know it). IT HAS TO BE STOPPED - SOMEONE CALL ASHCROFT!
Ok, I hope to have the cash availble when this flights are availble on virgin :)
IF the patent is enforceable (I don't know if that is the case) MS with their huge pile of cash should buy it from Kodak. THEN THEY WOULD OWN THE WORLD!!
;)
The BigBoys that owns MS could do WHATEVER THEY WANTED!! They could bitchslap the Transport Minister of Afghanistan if they so saw fit, without getting into trouble
They were busy doing their "kill Linux, kill RedHat and kill everyone that takes a bite out of OUR cake"!
You just wait and see....
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;)
10 years forward Linux and Windows will be the only OSs left in the market.
>>
stirring the pot are we?
He can't say "10 years forward Windows will be the only OSs left in the market." now can he?? (remember the european court has a ruling coming soon). He could say "10 years forward Macintosh and Windows will be the only OSs left in the market." but that would send too many to the mac sales rep. Whatever he puts in the "[any-os] and Windows will be the only OSs.." the "Linux" choice is the smartest, it will push (further) Schwartz and McNealy to launch their attack on RedHat . My guess is that he had those brainwashed to belive that LINUX is the threat to them, and if they would get back to former greatness, they could still get the high-end server market - "and between us [he put his arms around them, tilts his head and smiles], we don't plan to pursue the server market, we belive the desktop is our thing, you know, china and the expanding market" As they embraced the idea, he padded them on their backs and forwarded a bunch of cash as a part of a "bigger deal" and laught to himself.
>>
Sometimes, the people don't know what they want and you have to do the RIGHT thing for the country instead.
>>
You gotta be kidding?? Are you serious?
It's called democracy, and the people may not share YOUR opinions, but thats how it works. The idea is that you give them as much information as possible and let them (we, us, you) make a decision, that may or not may to be of your (or my) liking.
What's scary is that your view is very common among politicians and elitists. Our culture is seriosly (in my opinion) depraved in that respect.
Following link is the best I've read this year (not that is related but...).
psychopaths and the American Dream
Hear hear!!
;)
.net/C#/mono is cool, it has to be!
In addition I should mention....eh....hmmm...
Thats pretty complete I guess...But, YEAH, mono got that cool miguel guy! I have seen his name all over the place (even booting my linnuxx boxen)..
Didn't he enlighten us about the qt dangers (evil doers taking over qt and rule them (us) all) and started that gnome thingy??
If HE says
AND O'really giving out a book and all...It has to be good(TM)!
This is great!!
I never had any doubt they would do it (ok, I know, one more to go...), this kind of leaps are only possible if you got passionate people doing their thing (design, testing, flying, sponsoring etc), and what really counts is the "where the rubber meats the track" mentality!
>>
/me wipes the tears of cheek..
If Sun were to put Java into the OS community, it would need to ensure that the write once run anywhere still worked
>>
HAHAHA HIIiiiiii hiih.. Auch, You're killing me....ohhh hihi, good lord.
I'd like someone like Linus (but a little bit more of a facist) taking control of Java. I don't care if it's Sun or some open source dude, maybe a group run in an non democratic way.. or democratic if they all are sane... I don't know..But things have to improve!! As long as the control stays away from MS or any of a "special intrests" entity.
>>So the question, still to answer is: where to deposite the glass blocks?
>>
Why, ship it up to Sweden! Thats where the they make a living of receiving waste like that. ??
Right?
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"National Geographic News reports in this story that a giant, peanut shaped asteroid known as 4179 Toutatis will pass within 1 million miles of Earth on Weds, the 29th
>>
Gee.... I was expecting to be informed of a direct hit! That way I would be prepared for the chaos down town, the complete armageddon as the result of people running amok in cheer panic.
So, what are they using at dmoz?? There are tons of 403's in there. Not that I use dmoz, but it's suppose to be "serious". What other serious directories exists?
This is also what ppl in my surrondings are feeling. They dont use their gmail any more, somehow it makes them weary (the "we just scan your emails, and put it in a huge db"). This browser project makes me weary too, mostly becourse I don't understand WHY they are doing it...There are already free browsers around.
Isn't this great news for FOSS??
:)
I wish there was some kind of study showing the importance of unis in the FOSS world, a LOT of the software I use was made or started in
one uni or the other (most the rest is/was made by folks working for commersial sw companies, and a small part was made by folks working as paperboys).
Thank you sir Bill Gates!
This reminds me of the kind of debate that goes on in the corp world. Say, two guys (good guy, bad guy) argues the right way of using a product. ... I agree that everybody needs this soap, but it should be used with warm water",
One of the (good guy) says, "Well, Yea
the other guy answers "No, no no no! It can be used with both cold AND warm water!". To add to the cred, the "disussion"
turns ugly (now, this reminds me of the 2 dudes Bush&Kerry) and they start to throw soaps on eachother. Whereupon the good guy proceeded to take
that mittenful of the deadly soap crystals and rub it all into his (bad guy) beady little eyes with a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of
this area (this sound familiar), Well he (the bad guy) was very upset, as you can understand And rightly so, because the Deadly yellow snow crystals had
deprived him of his (hang on, yellow snow?? This is a RIPOFF!!).
Ehhrr ok, this has turned a itzy bit OT, so I wish U all a nice holiday!
Cheers.
I am a little bit worried of the term "prove". To "prove" something we need to colloborate something with a "known fact". We assume that the "known fact" (may that be a mathematical expression or a common belief, based on our common concius) is "true", but where did we get this "true" fact from?? I could play a "childish" game where I ask you "how do you know that an apple is attracted to the earth?", you would tell me the laws of gravity, and I would ask "how do you know that the gravity propogate through the three dimensions?", you would tell me that Newton proved it with is mathematical findings of the force is the inverse of the distance in square, that this is in line with the sphere's area relative to the distance of the center (this is ofcourse not a proof in it self, it's just very likely that it's related). I would ask you how this was proved, and we would go on to findings of the "old greeks", and finally I would question the fact that 1+1 is alway 2. And you would tell me that this is silly, I would argue that sometimes it's not, sometimes 1+1 is 3. It just happens once every gazillionth year. And we would be back to square 1. Now, whats up with that flying pig?
By the way, I think I suffer from sleep depravation (the cats keeps me awake, my body is aking).
P.S I read somewhere that Boole "proved" that god exists...THAT would be fun to see.
You are right!
They must be really carefull not to loose any highly-billed traffic. Thats why you cant put any java app on a three (3?) phone (nec?), at least thats what I read somewhere. You could write an java app that had an conn to a server, which in turn could send you data (when any of your friends decided to send you stuff) and you would be notified. Come to think about it, there already exists irc and IM software for java mobiles. No need for expensive SMS. Apart from the battery dying after a couple of hours, it works well.
The thing is, if the implementations of devices wasn't so retarded, there would be heaps of uses for bluetooth. To start with, there should be a sane API for the devices, not only bluetooth-wise, but the environment. If all phones had linux or symbian, or whatever, one could start building all kinds of cool apps for mobile devices but as it is now, the only environment these devices has in common is (usually) j2me, and as you all know, there doesnt really exists to many useful j2me applications, the reason is that all manufactors have their own little implementation of midpx. Try downloading a game (or if you can find a useful app), and you will see what I mean. How is this? Why?? Is it a conspiration of bill&co?? Do Nokia want to rule the mobile world with symbian?? Do MS want to rule the world with pocketPC?? Has SUN completely lost it??
I dont know.
Good lord, if this is true (I am not an American) I sure wonder what has happened to US. Or was it just me projecting ideas of what US was suppose to be....
Anyhow, I'll google on this myself...
I wonder if anyone except companies need encryption? I for one dont care too much, I dont mind anyone reading what I am typing in a IM session... mind you, I used to have ssl setup with jabber, but I didn't care to do it last time I changed computer. I do icq/irc chat over ssh (mobile ssh client) but thats not end to end... P.S I changed Threshold to "1", most post by AC are useless anyway...
I remember some test involving ac powerlines, and they found that around them a whole bunch of of hazardous particles "hanged around" similar to what the effect of an ionic air cleaner gives, in each given moment the particles was on the way in one direction, next in the other direction, so in beetween the cable and the metal construction there was a huge amount of unhealthy particles.
Bro,
Is hgh really giving U an "energy boost" ???
I was under the impression that unless U take it with T3 (L-T3) you will get close to nothing (other than kicking the life out of your liver), and it will drain your wallet.. unless u have got fake, VERY common here in Europe..... I hope you know what you are doing... I am not trying to be an smart-ass, I just have seen so many wasting their money...
Regarding the steroids... you are smart, the best thing is to stay away..
ppl dont seem to understand how important the BALANCED diet is (and the timing of proteins and "right" carbs) and SLEEP. To me, the best performance enhancing tech is SLEEP. As soon I have an injury, I sleep (up to 15 hours a day).