What an absolutely wonderful discussion about the problem. This has really pushed thing forward, rather than just being a bunch of jokes about the iPhone, from people clearly obsessed about the device. Why don't you all go back to digg.
Yes, but you are acting like there has never ever been a problem with a device before. Or that there aren't always problems with devices, no matter what they are, who made them, or how much you hate apple.
None of these haughty MBAs and financial geniuses saw the flaw with that setup.
What are you talking about, they saw the flaw with that system, they were on the same deal, just making a lot more per loan. If you are making millions today, who cares what happens tomorrow.
Still nothing has been done about this, people aren't made to repay the bonuses or salaries, or go to jail for being greedy. The us is built on greed, so how can it be?
For example while banks certainly bear a large responsibility for making bad loans to people who clearly lacked the ability to repay them, those people bear responsibility for taking on those loans.
Wow, you really have no idea of the problem do you. There is absolutely nothing wrong with these loans, to poor people or people with no income. They have been going on for 30 years.
The problem comes when these loans get repackaged as good debt, rather than the bad debt it represents, and sold off as A+ investments. People had loads of money, and were buying up lots of these investments, and wanted more. So the financial companies and rating agencies created more, out of a mixture of good and bad debt.
So the people to blame are the people who packaged up bad debt with good, the rating agencies for not rating appropriately, and the investors who would buy anything with a good rating.
No, he hung around, kept on making money. Made loads, but never left. He could have left at anytime, disappeared, with billions. But he though he would never be caught, or didn't care. He could have his own secret island, never to be touched again. But he got greedy...
This is true, and it can work both ways. If the dollar gets stronger, then Microsoft would lose money. Of course, they would have purchased futures, or already sold them to the retailer, so things aren't quite so simple.
What an ignorant statement. So he can invest the money he saved by not buying the panels, but not the money he saves each months from electricity saving.
Why people still think like morons I'll never know, and the lengths you anti-enviros will go to make it look bad have no end.
You are right, don't go after Steve, but do go after Apple. Since the CEO is an important part of the company, no more so than at Apple, it is important for them to make public this information, no matter how appalling it might seem.
Nope, maybe the new 3gS, but with the older versions you are not guaranteed anymore than 20mb. Try to use more than that and you will get memory warnings, depending on what apps you are running/have run in the past. (Some apple apps run in the background).
And how the hell can lack of an app store be a pro??
I have looked at getting into bb development as well, but it is just pure hell. I have an old 8700, I can't even find out if it can run application, and I can use it as a developer platform. There is no guide on the bb website to tell anyone this, going to this shitty bb page for the 8700 reveals no useful information.
They have made it so painful I will not be going back, they can go fuck themselves. Useless fuckers can't even produce a simple document detailing what software you need.
Yes, it is the Indians to blame for being given mission-critical project with clearly very little over site.
I think the problem is that teams over here think they can get working teams over there, using the same processes they have already used. In fact, there is a lot more over site and control needed of off-shoring development.
What I can' understand is why Apple didn't include it as part of the system of day 1. They are cutting out millions. Finally we don't need to carry our c64 with us everywhere we go.
You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
Apple has these rules, are we really going to get surprised ever single time they force you to follow them, and reject your app??? Is this really still news..
What will happen is they will release a games pack, where you can select from 4 games, and you play them in the emulator. I wish I had this problem...
Hey, I spoke to someone from Microsoft, and they thought it would be a good idea is Microsoft separated into two entities, their OS and applications. So I guess this is solid now, guaranteed, we can expect to see Windows on Linux any day now???
Or maybe you will figure out how little it means to say you spoke to someone from Apple Europe???
You are comparing them, of course you are. You are saying that Application control for the iPhone is in the same territory as enslaving people, and needs to be controlled by the government and outlawed.
Well, I for one think this is ridiculous, we really don't need the government stepping into this situation. It wasn't that long ago that you couldn't install anything on a mobile phone.
And there are other phones which give you more control, so you don't have to use the iphone...
You realise that in most civilized countries around the world, you can't actually buy guns freely??? You know, apart from the one that you fucking occupy??
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Wow, -64 minutes? Google is good.
What an absolutely wonderful discussion about the problem. This has really pushed thing forward, rather than just being a bunch of jokes about the iPhone, from people clearly obsessed about the device. Why don't you all go back to digg.
Yes, but you are acting like there has never ever been a problem with a device before. Or that there aren't always problems with devices, no matter what they are, who made them, or how much you hate apple.
Chicken is the worst meat to eat, full of all sort, antibiotics, growth hormone, vitamins, everything.
None of these haughty MBAs and financial geniuses saw the flaw with that setup.
What are you talking about, they saw the flaw with that system, they were on the same deal, just making a lot more per loan. If you are making millions today, who cares what happens tomorrow.
Still nothing has been done about this, people aren't made to repay the bonuses or salaries, or go to jail for being greedy. The us is built on greed, so how can it be?
For example while banks certainly bear a large responsibility for making bad loans to people who clearly lacked the ability to repay them, those people bear responsibility for taking on those loans.
Wow, you really have no idea of the problem do you. There is absolutely nothing wrong with these loans, to poor people or people with no income. They have been going on for 30 years.
The problem comes when these loans get repackaged as good debt, rather than the bad debt it represents, and sold off as A+ investments. People had loads of money, and were buying up lots of these investments, and wanted more. So the financial companies and rating agencies created more, out of a mixture of good and bad debt.
So the people to blame are the people who packaged up bad debt with good, the rating agencies for not rating appropriately, and the investors who would buy anything with a good rating.
No, he hung around, kept on making money. Made loads, but never left. He could have left at anytime, disappeared, with billions. But he though he would never be caught, or didn't care. He could have his own secret island, never to be touched again. But he got greedy...
This is true, and it can work both ways. If the dollar gets stronger, then Microsoft would lose money. Of course, they would have purchased futures, or already sold them to the retailer, so things aren't quite so simple.
You also get MORE space, since you don't have to build roads, driveways, carparks, petrol stations, repair yards, etc...
No, no, there are 3 types of people in the world, those that can count and those that cant.
How will that stop the chinese unlicensed knock-offs, that you get on ebay for $10.
IBM did the same with their laptop batteries, then the chinese just copied the circuit board IBM used on their batteries... the war continues.
What an ignorant statement. So he can invest the money he saved by not buying the panels, but not the money he saves each months from electricity saving.
Why people still think like morons I'll never know, and the lengths you anti-enviros will go to make it look bad have no end.
You are right, don't go after Steve, but do go after Apple. Since the CEO is an important part of the company, no more so than at Apple, it is important for them to make public this information, no matter how appalling it might seem.
I know, but there is something about the smell of a horse that is so much more pleasant than those new automobiles.
See ya later, grandpa...
be very capacious in RAM
Nope, maybe the new 3gS, but with the older versions you are not guaranteed anymore than 20mb. Try to use more than that and you will get memory warnings, depending on what apps you are running/have run in the past. (Some apple apps run in the background).
And how the hell can lack of an app store be a pro??
I have looked at getting into bb development as well, but it is just pure hell. I have an old 8700, I can't even find out if it can run application, and I can use it as a developer platform. There is no guide on the bb website to tell anyone this, going to this shitty bb page for the 8700 reveals no useful information.
They have made it so painful I will not be going back, they can go fuck themselves. Useless fuckers can't even produce a simple document detailing what software you need.
Yes, it is the Indians to blame for being given mission-critical project with clearly very little over site.
I think the problem is that teams over here think they can get working teams over there, using the same processes they have already used. In fact, there is a lot more over site and control needed of off-shoring development.
What I can' understand is why Apple didn't include it as part of the system of day 1. They are cutting out millions. Finally we don't need to carry our c64 with us everywhere we go.
You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
Apple has these rules, are we really going to get surprised ever single time they force you to follow them, and reject your app??? Is this really still news..
What will happen is they will release a games pack, where you can select from 4 games, and you play them in the emulator. I wish I had this problem...
You can write basic applications in the emulator? Then you can run arbitrary code...
You can do that, and Intel do that before they produce the chip. You can emulate a i7 on a pentium 2 if you wanted to.
Hey, I spoke to someone from Microsoft, and they thought it would be a good idea is Microsoft separated into two entities, their OS and applications. So I guess this is solid now, guaranteed, we can expect to see Windows on Linux any day now???
Or maybe you will figure out how little it means to say you spoke to someone from Apple Europe???
You are comparing them, of course you are. You are saying that Application control for the iPhone is in the same territory as enslaving people, and needs to be controlled by the government and outlawed.
Well, I for one think this is ridiculous, we really don't need the government stepping into this situation. It wasn't that long ago that you couldn't install anything on a mobile phone.
And there are other phones which give you more control, so you don't have to use the iphone...
So what OS are you using, and what version of firefox are you using, or is this too much information that only a fanboy would go into???
You realise that in most civilized countries around the world, you can't actually buy guns freely??? You know, apart from the one that you fucking occupy??
How fucking stupid are you people!!!