This guy needs to play Ninja Gaiden. 1.
Or Megaman 1 Dr Wiley stage. You bring up an excellent point. In the golden era of video games, it was perfectly fine to make stuff near impossible to complete. Now with so many different games to play, people get sickened if stuff is too tough.
(Aside)That's why I like the leveling concept. If you make a game that's actiony, but make it so bosses and higher levels are incredibly tough, you can always add a leveling concept to the game. Super skilled players will have the fight of their life trying to beat the game in under a certain time. Average players will go back and repeat earlier quests to power up their character. Not many games do this. Only ones off the top of my head are Castlevania:Symphony of the night and River City Ransom. I'm a big fan of action games where you can level your dude too.
Super Metroid: You either lose fast to Ridley, or you're super good and he doesn't kill you and he flys away. Either way he flys away.
Sam and Max hit the road(original for 386). If you ride the Cone of Tradjedy, you lose all your items. My friend loaded up a saved game after he rode it, and he couldn't complete the game anymore. I come over his house and ride the Cone of Tradjedy because he says not to ride it, and then I collect all his items at the lost and found.
I think loses and setbacks are ok in games. I mean if you can't lose, its not a game really is it?
Instad of mashing the only skills that do stuff, make all the skills balanced such that combat involves choosing the right move for the right situation. I know when I played my icemage, I'd just keep casting frostbolt, then when something got near me frost nova, backup a step, frostbolts again, the reset the frost skills, frost nova, backup a step, frost bolts until dead. In a group, sometime I'd cast ice block to save myself from the tremendous aggro I got for doing the most damage in the group. In 60 levels, I was only using like 4 skills. You'd think a game could be more complex and make you really think during the game so your choices on the skillbar mattered depending on the situation at hand, instead of a boring repetitive sequence for each battle.
Of course this leads you to the next step: Tekken Online. A game where you have to fight out battles unarmed or with a weapon like hackand slash, but gives you stats to build your character so harder monsters can be taken out with more ease. The moves shouldn't be as hard as a traditional fighter, but instead of trying to mash the right buttons to get off harder moves, they just cost more power and you have to earn them.
I remember playing on my TI-99 learn how to count in my preschool/kindergarden years. It'd show me different shapes like rabbits or spaceships n stuff, then I had to press the right number of how many there were. The game was really fun, so I'd count for hours on end. Then there was advanced stuff like addition and dreaded subtraction. What made the game was the fun animations it had to set up the scene. I think all little kids should be able to play learn how to count games on computer, they're really fun. And a fond memory!
It said they were training kids at grade 1. LOL. What are they going to brain wash them with? "Remember kids, even your parents can't be trusted. If you suspect your mom or dad to be illegally using music or software, call 911 and report them."
Thanks for correcting me. I thought Gears of War was a different game than it is. My main point still stands. I think classifying players as Hardcore or Casual is the 'in thing' in the last year or so and it sickens me. Sure you need to account for making a game where someone who spends 60hrs/week vs someone spending 5 hrs a week can play in peace like the other poster said. But calling one person Hardcore and another Casual are really generic terms that for one are vague and secondly encompass too many variables about the player to lead to anything conclusive on your game making.
I'm sorry but the distinction between a hardcore and a softcore player is blurred. I'm sick of people saying that things a hardcore player likes that a softcore player doesn't like. If you make a quality game, people will play it. The problem lays in the fact that people don't make quality games and they lay their excuse here.
For example: The article says Gears of War sold as many units as Cars even though Gears of War cost more to make. They then go on to say it is because of hardcore vs softcore players. When in fact couldn't it be that Gears of War doesn't do anything new in gaming. Its just another FPS, and doesn't even have a ladder like Halo 2. If they actually did something with all the money they spent in production of Gears of War, it could be the next killer FPS. You only need 2 things for the next killer FPS: 1) Ranked Online Play 2) Balanced Weapons . You could even make a MMOFPS and it'd instantly be better than PlanetSide which lets you level to max in a day basically. But no they chose to do a very expensive FPS.
Hopefully gaming companies will get these terms Hardcore and Casual players out of their head, so they don't give up totally and not try anymore.
MMOG X-Wing vs Tie Fighter. You have to do some missions for rebels/imperial for money before you can go out on your own as a merc. Or maybe it would be funny for you to steal your first vehicle. Once in space, you can run missions to earn more money to buy bigger and badder ships, or extra ships to accompany your fleet: See Star Destroyer for an escort. Finally you get a team of your friends together, and you take on large battles for big money or rebel/imperial control of star systems. It wouldn't be hard to get it right.
You can duel another person by clicking duel. It works something like WOW's duel option.
You may have misunderstood monster play though. Some people play as monsters. Some people play as characters. Then they try and take over castles, quest, or fight each other.
Good:
The quest vs grind ratio is vastly in favor of questing opposed to WOW where grinding was generally better.
It has excellent graphics.
It's run by Turbine, so that means frequent updates to keep the content fresh.
Player vs Monster is fun. I played as a Warg and got over 100 kills and only finally died when lag froze me in place for 30 s
Bad:
Money is more worthless in this game than any other MMORPG. Somehow no newer MMORPGS seem to care to make an economy.
If you get the best lewt in the game, your character will only be about 5-10% better than a storebought character even though you have lots of flashy stats.
Attributes mean about nothing. I won't even post an example of this. Lets just say your stat sheet is a total joke.
I'm an MMOG player too and there are lessons learned there, but I'll focus on Starcraft. If you make an online multiplayer "competitive" game, you must make it so there are no win trading abuses. Warcraft 3 had no win trading abuses and was better in that one aspect. If you make an online competive game, you must make sure you squash hackers like you mean buisness. An anti map hack program could have been made in a various number of ways, but they chose not to pursue that route and the game became pointless with hacks and win traders. If you can make your game fair so no hacks and cheaters can prosper, and use a chess rating style of ranking, you can make a very fun game where you compete to be the world's best. To me there's something really exciting about being ranked in a world class system on a game, it makes me want to become better at it and play it more intensely.
Why only mute for the rest of the game when you could mute them forever on the account. I wouldn't mind muting people if I got a nice long list of people who I never have to hear from again.
Once you have the ability to interpret vision into 3d objects, you can then classify what they are and what they're doing in a language(English is good enough). You can then enter in sentences and the AI would understand the representation by 'imaginging' a scene. And what you have isn't really a thinker, but software that understands English and can be incorporated into robots too.
I knew a couple MMOGS that would have gold being sold from every single server in masses no individual could achieve in month 2 of launch, lets say about 500 listings. Then I a lowly single server player tries to sell just a little bit of gold, but at a cheaper rate. Within 1 hour my listing is banned. How can mysterious Ebayer X sell nearly infinate money on both Anarchy Online AND Dark Age of Camelot, while anyone else who tries to sell even a small amount gets immediately banned. This was back in the day, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw it.
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I think there are several $40 helicopters all of a sudden. My cousin had a good one he was showing the family on Christmas that he bought in a hobby shop in Philly. I saw one on TV and I tracked down the link: HavocHeli.com but I am still not sure if that's the right one, it looks close. If you have a house with a some deal of open room, its good indoors, otherwise I'm sure you'll have to go outdoors. Like anything it takes some practice getting used to and setting the trim, but after you get a hold of the basics its pretty cool.
My favorite new toy is the $40 helicopter
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Its in Hobby stores and on the net in places. Its this small helicopter that charges on a basepad that doubles as the controller and is filled with double AA batteries. You can fly it all around the room and its pretty durable(fly it into the wall a few times). For $40 its really cheap for such an awesome toy. I'd buy one if I didn't lose the link.
I've loved watching others game for almost as long as I've enjoyed gaming. I used to watch my cousin play Super Mario Bros 2, and I was enthralled. You can identify styles of play and even predict what they're going to do next. I guess it depends on the person if they're going to like watching the game. To me, there has to be an element of exploration or creativity for the game to be exciting. If its a seriously competitive game, I want to play myself because I can't stand watching amatuers make mistakes.... though if its a game that's more chance based than skill based I'm less inclined to want to take the controls.
You're right boomerangs FTW. I keep boomerangs from the moment I get them until the Dracula where you practically 'need' the timepiece to beat the Dracula level. So far on 1 life I've defeated Dracula on MARP, but not his second form. A kind Slashdotter told me to use holy water on the 2nd aspect of Dracula, and to watch that his 3rd jump is always the high one. I haven't got back to trying to beat the game on one life though as my computer with all my roms suffered a terrible handling at the airport luggage:P Castlevania 1 is some serious gaming fun that I don't get with many of the new games that come out.
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The fastest motorcyle on Earth. No doubt.
This guy needs to play Ninja Gaiden. 1.
Or Megaman 1 Dr Wiley stage. You bring up an excellent point. In the golden era of video games, it was perfectly fine to make stuff near impossible to complete. Now with so many different games to play, people get sickened if stuff is too tough.
(Aside)That's why I like the leveling concept. If you make a game that's actiony, but make it so bosses and higher levels are incredibly tough, you can always add a leveling concept to the game. Super skilled players will have the fight of their life trying to beat the game in under a certain time. Average players will go back and repeat earlier quests to power up their character. Not many games do this. Only ones off the top of my head are Castlevania:Symphony of the night and River City Ransom. I'm a big fan of action games where you can level your dude too.
Super Metroid: You either lose fast to Ridley, or you're super good and he doesn't kill you and he flys away. Either way he flys away.
Sam and Max hit the road(original for 386). If you ride the Cone of Tradjedy, you lose all your items. My friend loaded up a saved game after he rode it, and he couldn't complete the game anymore. I come over his house and ride the Cone of Tradjedy because he says not to ride it, and then I collect all his items at the lost and found.
I think loses and setbacks are ok in games. I mean if you can't lose, its not a game really is it?
Instad of mashing the only skills that do stuff, make all the skills balanced such that combat involves choosing the right move for the right situation. I know when I played my icemage, I'd just keep casting frostbolt, then when something got near me frost nova, backup a step, frostbolts again, the reset the frost skills, frost nova, backup a step, frost bolts until dead. In a group, sometime I'd cast ice block to save myself from the tremendous aggro I got for doing the most damage in the group. In 60 levels, I was only using like 4 skills. You'd think a game could be more complex and make you really think during the game so your choices on the skillbar mattered depending on the situation at hand, instead of a boring repetitive sequence for each battle.
Of course this leads you to the next step: Tekken Online. A game where you have to fight out battles unarmed or with a weapon like hackand slash, but gives you stats to build your character so harder monsters can be taken out with more ease. The moves shouldn't be as hard as a traditional fighter, but instead of trying to mash the right buttons to get off harder moves, they just cost more power and you have to earn them.
Playerauctions.com was born when ebay started banning people for selling stuff, and now it should be even stronger. Nuff said.
"aliens become poor American citizens put in harm's way."
I remember playing on my TI-99 learn how to count in my preschool/kindergarden years. It'd show me different shapes like rabbits or spaceships n stuff, then I had to press the right number of how many there were. The game was really fun, so I'd count for hours on end. Then there was advanced stuff like addition and dreaded subtraction. What made the game was the fun animations it had to set up the scene. I think all little kids should be able to play learn how to count games on computer, they're really fun. And a fond memory!
Mike or Joel?
It said they were training kids at grade 1. LOL. What are they going to brain wash them with? "Remember kids, even your parents can't be trusted. If you suspect your mom or dad to be illegally using music or software, call 911 and report them."
Thanks for correcting me. I thought Gears of War was a different game than it is. My main point still stands. I think classifying players as Hardcore or Casual is the 'in thing' in the last year or so and it sickens me. Sure you need to account for making a game where someone who spends 60hrs/week vs someone spending 5 hrs a week can play in peace like the other poster said. But calling one person Hardcore and another Casual are really generic terms that for one are vague and secondly encompass too many variables about the player to lead to anything conclusive on your game making.
I'm sorry but the distinction between a hardcore and a softcore player is blurred. I'm sick of people saying that things a hardcore player likes that a softcore player doesn't like. If you make a quality game, people will play it. The problem lays in the fact that people don't make quality games and they lay their excuse here.
For example: The article says Gears of War sold as many units as Cars even though Gears of War cost more to make. They then go on to say it is because of hardcore vs softcore players. When in fact couldn't it be that Gears of War doesn't do anything new in gaming. Its just another FPS, and doesn't even have a ladder like Halo 2. If they actually did something with all the money they spent in production of Gears of War, it could be the next killer FPS. You only need 2 things for the next killer FPS: 1) Ranked Online Play 2) Balanced Weapons . You could even make a MMOFPS and it'd instantly be better than PlanetSide which lets you level to max in a day basically. But no they chose to do a very expensive FPS.
Hopefully gaming companies will get these terms Hardcore and Casual players out of their head, so they don't give up totally and not try anymore.
MMOG X-Wing vs Tie Fighter. You have to do some missions for rebels/imperial for money before you can go out on your own as a merc. Or maybe it would be funny for you to steal your first vehicle. Once in space, you can run missions to earn more money to buy bigger and badder ships, or extra ships to accompany your fleet: See Star Destroyer for an escort. Finally you get a team of your friends together, and you take on large battles for big money or rebel/imperial control of star systems. It wouldn't be hard to get it right.
You can duel another person by clicking duel. It works something like WOW's duel option.
You may have misunderstood monster play though. Some people play as monsters. Some people play as characters. Then they try and take over castles, quest, or fight each other.
The funniest one in beta was: Legomyeggolas
Good:
The quest vs grind ratio is vastly in favor of questing opposed to WOW where grinding was generally better.
It has excellent graphics.
It's run by Turbine, so that means frequent updates to keep the content fresh.
Player vs Monster is fun. I played as a Warg and got over 100 kills and only finally died when lag froze me in place for 30 s
Bad:
Money is more worthless in this game than any other MMORPG. Somehow no newer MMORPGS seem to care to make an economy.
If you get the best lewt in the game, your character will only be about 5-10% better than a storebought character even though you have lots of flashy stats.
Attributes mean about nothing. I won't even post an example of this. Lets just say your stat sheet is a total joke.
I'm an MMOG player too and there are lessons learned there, but I'll focus on Starcraft. If you make an online multiplayer "competitive" game, you must make it so there are no win trading abuses. Warcraft 3 had no win trading abuses and was better in that one aspect. If you make an online competive game, you must make sure you squash hackers like you mean buisness. An anti map hack program could have been made in a various number of ways, but they chose not to pursue that route and the game became pointless with hacks and win traders. If you can make your game fair so no hacks and cheaters can prosper, and use a chess rating style of ranking, you can make a very fun game where you compete to be the world's best. To me there's something really exciting about being ranked in a world class system on a game, it makes me want to become better at it and play it more intensely.
Why only mute for the rest of the game when you could mute them forever on the account. I wouldn't mind muting people if I got a nice long list of people who I never have to hear from again.
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Once you have the ability to interpret vision into 3d objects, you can then classify what they are and what they're doing in a language(English is good enough). You can then enter in sentences and the AI would understand the representation by 'imaginging' a scene. And what you have isn't really a thinker, but software that understands English and can be incorporated into robots too.
I knew a couple MMOGS that would have gold being sold from every single server in masses no individual could achieve in month 2 of launch, lets say about 500 listings. Then I a lowly single server player tries to sell just a little bit of gold, but at a cheaper rate. Within 1 hour my listing is banned. How can mysterious Ebayer X sell nearly infinate money on both Anarchy Online AND Dark Age of Camelot, while anyone else who tries to sell even a small amount gets immediately banned. This was back in the day, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw it.
I think there are several $40 helicopters all of a sudden. My cousin had a good one he was showing the family on Christmas that he bought in a hobby shop in Philly. I saw one on TV and I tracked down the link: HavocHeli.com but I am still not sure if that's the right one, it looks close. If you have a house with a some deal of open room, its good indoors, otherwise I'm sure you'll have to go outdoors. Like anything it takes some practice getting used to and setting the trim, but after you get a hold of the basics its pretty cool.
Its in Hobby stores and on the net in places. Its this small helicopter that charges on a basepad that doubles as the controller and is filled with double AA batteries. You can fly it all around the room and its pretty durable(fly it into the wall a few times). For $40 its really cheap for such an awesome toy. I'd buy one if I didn't lose the link.
Go put your fingers on a 100-watt lightbulb to get an idea of how much heat we're talking about... Ouch, you insensitive clod.
I've loved watching others game for almost as long as I've enjoyed gaming. I used to watch my cousin play Super Mario Bros 2, and I was enthralled. You can identify styles of play and even predict what they're going to do next. I guess it depends on the person if they're going to like watching the game. To me, there has to be an element of exploration or creativity for the game to be exciting. If its a seriously competitive game, I want to play myself because I can't stand watching amatuers make mistakes.... though if its a game that's more chance based than skill based I'm less inclined to want to take the controls.
class BaseClass{ virtual bool impossibility_of_damage(){return true;) } class ActualClass::BaseClass{ virtual bool impossibility_of_damage(){if((rand()%2)==1) return false; else return true; }
You're right boomerangs FTW. I keep boomerangs from the moment I get them until the Dracula where you practically 'need' the timepiece to beat the Dracula level. So far on 1 life I've defeated Dracula on MARP, but not his second form. A kind Slashdotter told me to use holy water on the 2nd aspect of Dracula, and to watch that his 3rd jump is always the high one. I haven't got back to trying to beat the game on one life though as my computer with all my roms suffered a terrible handling at the airport luggage :P Castlevania 1 is some serious gaming fun that I don't get with many of the new games that come out.