I see your point -- but wouldn't the best solution be for a commercial distro to address the peripherial-problem? this way, the "core" of the OS could remain completely open and free -- great for server people, for example -- and the desktop "joe user" could just buy Linspire, whom have liscensed the 3rd party drivers and such.
Forgive me if this idea is naive, I'm not privy to the particulars of linux distro/liscensing.
you know, i wonder why microsoft doesn't just start their own hardware branch -- that way they'd be able to integrate the hardware and OS like apple does -- and sell a machine that "just works" . . .
You want to protest the war, fine -- but don't exepct me to care what you have to say when you can't make your voice heard in a public and legal forum.
just curious, what public and legal forums do anti-war activists in chile have at their disposal to have their message heard (in america)?
for that matter, what forum does *anyone* have in america to have their voices heard -- we're an ADD society...
This is a fair comparison, but everyone on/. should know by now -- YOU GET OS X WITH A MAC! forgetting the arguement whether it's better/worse than windows/linux, there are a lot of features/apps that many pros will require, meaning the dell is plain out of the question -- they need a machine that will run os X at (almost) any price.
i think wikipedia presupposes just a bit of critical thinking on part of the user. that is, looking up an article on a controversial subject or person (such as ken lay), one has to expect some editorial liscense. luckily, wikipedia is usually pretty quick to have a warning with a link to a discussion page, which often makes better reading than the article -- and this brings up an interesting point:
if i visit the ken lay page, eg, i do want some facts, but the facts aren't necessarily what is interesting -- i may read about his birthplace, childhood, and the fact that he was an executive at enron during the peak of its scandal. but this is where the facts will end, and this in itself is informative, but not about the ISSUE -- that is, and this is key, the going back and forth with posts (hopefully they'll be quarantined to the discussion page quickly) can clue the reader in to the issues and the opposing viewpoints on a subject.
i don't think that wikipedia fails, i think it's mainly that people expect it to behave like an old dusty book on a shelf, and that, thankfully, is just what it isn't -- it's alive with the issues of our contemporary world -- sometimes up to the minute.
i'll put it another way -- the fact that ken lay's page was "vandalized" is in of itself a barometer of the current climate on the subject.
i noticed a few people have responded with, "*yawn*, why would i do this when i already have a great connection" or "why would i expose myself to risk"? one thing to remember is that europe for the most part isn't as connected as the us -- and also isn't as paranoid.
i just returned from berlin (go deutschland!) and my friend was doing good to have an ISDN connection -- dsl isn't available in his area yet. and, as i mentioned, europeans don't have to worry so much about secret rooms in AT&T switching stations, nor monitored bank accounts, etc.
there is something like this in berlin based on oslr, but the coverage is spotty, and i was having trouble getting it working on my mac (admittingly, i am not an uber-geek).
in the states, it would be hard for this to take hold because of cheap broadband, threat of riaa lawsuits, and huge distances between homes. in europe, something like this could really take hold.
i'm going to be upgrading to a macbook so i can check out this new os i've been hearing about -- "WinDOS EXPY" i think it's called? i understand it has much to offer that my old tired os x (it's already on the fourth version) just doesn't, like a registry, a "my documents" folder, a command line (i need to learn more about the advantages of \ vs/), and a software-based start button. i am a bit worried about the supposed lack of games and software development tools . . .
unfortunately, my job forces me to use os x -- (have pity on me -- i have to use it for music and video production, and graphic design) ugh! how i wish i could just do some database queries. . .
they also insist my hair remain uncombed. i have high hopes for the lifestyle changes this new OS may hold for me!
this is the ONLY app i miss from windows. sure, i use audacity, and have tried peak on os x, but neither of these are as straightforward and stable as soundforge.
For those who don't know, soundforge is a 2-track wave editor that is quick as lightning when you're doing a lot of editing . . .
every other software i've used on windows has been a delicate toy compared to os X.
oh, except firefox -- truly the killer (as in spyware killer) app for winXP.
i understand where you're coming from, but i think you lack complete understanding here. sure, you want to be able to buy os x for your intel box, and you feel apple is *keeping it from you*, but you must understand, that there is no way apple can make os x as stable and useful AND make it work on the bazillion permutations of pc's that are (or could be) out there.
apple still sees the hardware and OS as intricately tied (which they are). only when IBM decided to use some OS from redmond did people start to see the two as separate.
let me get this straight. kid records himself on rental equipment. returns equipment with tape still in the recorder. tape gets digitized and distributed on the net. kid gets $300k in damages.
good point, but i why wouldn't the average user be able to replace windows? the average user i see mainly surfs the web, manages their music and photos, maybe does some word processing.
it makes perfect sense for google to release a web-orientated OS that ran their apps.
while i realise that postings to a dev list shouldn't be taken as gospel, why would a dev list posting of benchmarks be assumed to be doctored? of course i would expect this from a marketing dept, but a dev list?
as far as i'm concerned, i hate using WMP -- it just seems like a piece of shit. the problem is that windows forces me into using it. itunes is ok to use -- i don't mind it, so i don't notice that os x forces me to use it. not that any of this is right or not hypocritical, but thems the mechanics of the psychology.
as another poster noted, they dropped firewire 800 (now it's just 400) on the macbook (nice, uh, name guys). seems like there was a recent story about the demise of firewire -- as if apple was phasing it out. this sure would support that claim -- anyone know the digs?
mr c
perhaps a compromise here is to have a limit on the number of links per time frame. that is, say the limit is 10 stories per month. say user XXX submits 15 very GOOD stories -- they all get accepted, but only the first 10 get the links.
learned on a ][e, and there wasn't a whole lot to do except program (only games i had were infocom games, so, to a degree, i think it helped my reading -- also made me think about grammer a little bit when i wanted to write my own game, had to design a parser).
although i learned a lot, i think it scewed my perception some, too. i think it made me think a bit too deterministically, and this is the real danger in video games, methinks. how many games don't have a clear-cut "way to go"? and are still fun (ie, actually get played)?
30G is a bit thin, but think of this: having a 10Gig solid state partition for the OS, pagefile, applications and etc., then a 100G(or whatever) for all the data (mp3's, video, photos, if you have a lot). this way, unless you're really crunching data, watching a video or something, the OS would run off the RAM disk, which would save battery life, and, with possibly faster access times.
i might try this once usb sticks get up to 6G or more -- i only need 3G for OS X.
well, it kinda depends on whether you are a completist in story terms. i agree wholeheartedly with the reviewer about WW -- i think some nu-metal-post-grunge band godsmack or something or other did the soundtrack; it serves to inform the overall vibe of WW. i also found myself losing any empathy for the prince in WW, but in the context of the trilogy, i do suppose it makes sense -- overall WW is rather shallow, especially given the depth of SOT -- wow, what great story and character development (something video games mostly lack, for some reason).
so, to answer your question, you would probably be ok skipping WW, but if you're completionist, and can find a copy for $10, go for it -- just be prepared to kick up your suspension of tast-- er, disbelief.
the person whom is seen as largely responsible for wikipedia (can't think of his name) was on npr the other day, basically saying that wikipedia is in its "beta" stage. once enough articles are solidified and reviewed, they will be "locked" into the official release, which is how much OSS works, IIUC.
how hard is this to grasp? i suppose they would do good to make this known on the home page, but while everyone is calling for "moral responsibility" from wikipedia, what about "individual responsibility" for each person using it?
the attack on the politician is also a non issue. what would happen if someone posted a post on/. smearing, say, bill gates? would the press at large be screaming out for "moral responsibility" from/.?
and why isn't an email to the editors to please remove said content (assuming it is complied with) not enough?
wikipedia is an awesome phenomenon no matter how you slice it, warts and all. anyone who wants to naysay with, "there are errors, and no way to control content" and the like are missing the forest for the trees.
one of the most toxic substances around, which, not at all incidentally, we are advised to just "dispose" of when we're done with it. Gee, I wonder what the author did with his? Tossed it in the garbage, or throw it into the sewer?
good point, but how many people do you think even *know* there's Hg in their LCDs, let alone A) know it's dangerous or B) will *bother* putting it anywhere but in the trash?
just back off, god. mob mentality is so retarded on the internet. especially from you minority zealots. "BUT MY 0.25% of the market share browser doesn't work flawlessly, waaaaaaah"
i can go along with the rest of your post (ie. "you get what you pay for"), but this is pretty obtuse. so the whole internet should only support IE? why not throw out the whole http, tcp/ip, et al, spec and let microsoft rewrite them?
this is like telling me i can't take my motorbike on the road since >1% of vehicles on the road are bikes. . .
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I see your point -- but wouldn't the best solution be for a commercial distro to address the peripherial-problem? this way, the "core" of the OS could remain completely open and free -- great for server people, for example -- and the desktop "joe user" could just buy Linspire, whom have liscensed the 3rd party drivers and such.
Forgive me if this idea is naive, I'm not privy to the particulars of linux distro/liscensing.
mr c
you know, i wonder why microsoft doesn't just start their own hardware branch -- that way they'd be able to integrate the hardware and OS like apple does -- and sell a machine that "just works" . . .
mr c
An in depth discussion of the mechanics of sword fighting on slashdot . . . could it get any more stereotypical?
At least it wasn't in terms of die . . .
mr c
You want to protest the war, fine -- but don't exepct me to care what you have to say when you can't make your voice heard in a public and legal forum.
just curious, what public and legal forums do anti-war activists in chile have at their disposal to have their message heard (in america)?
for that matter, what forum does *anyone* have in america to have their voices heard -- we're an ADD society...
mr c
This is a fair comparison, but everyone on /. should know by now -- YOU GET OS X WITH A MAC! forgetting the arguement whether it's better/worse than windows/linux, there are a lot of features/apps that many pros will require, meaning the dell is plain out of the question -- they need a machine that will run os X at (almost) any price.
mr c
here we go again with some wikipedia bashing.
i think wikipedia presupposes just a bit of critical thinking on part of the user. that is, looking up an article on a controversial subject or person (such as ken lay), one has to expect some editorial liscense. luckily, wikipedia is usually pretty quick to have a warning with a link to a discussion page, which often makes better reading than the article -- and this brings up an interesting point:
if i visit the ken lay page, eg, i do want some facts, but the facts aren't necessarily what is interesting -- i may read about his birthplace, childhood, and the fact that he was an executive at enron during the peak of its scandal. but this is where the facts will end, and this in itself is informative, but not about the ISSUE -- that is, and this is key, the going back and forth with posts (hopefully they'll be quarantined to the discussion page quickly) can clue the reader in to the issues and the opposing viewpoints on a subject.
i don't think that wikipedia fails, i think it's mainly that people expect it to behave like an old dusty book on a shelf, and that, thankfully, is just what it isn't -- it's alive with the issues of our contemporary world -- sometimes up to the minute.
i'll put it another way -- the fact that ken lay's page was "vandalized" is in of itself a barometer of the current climate on the subject.
mr c
i noticed a few people have responded with, "*yawn*, why would i do this when i already have a great connection" or "why would i expose myself to risk"? one thing to remember is that europe for the most part isn't as connected as the us -- and also isn't as paranoid.
i just returned from berlin (go deutschland!) and my friend was doing good to have an ISDN connection -- dsl isn't available in his area yet. and, as i mentioned, europeans don't have to worry so much about secret rooms in AT&T switching stations, nor monitored bank accounts, etc.
there is something like this in berlin based on oslr, but the coverage is spotty, and i was having trouble getting it working on my mac (admittingly, i am not an uber-geek).
in the states, it would be hard for this to take hold because of cheap broadband, threat of riaa lawsuits, and huge distances between homes. in europe, something like this could really take hold.
mr c
i'm going to be upgrading to a macbook so i can check out this new os i've been hearing about -- "WinDOS EXPY" i think it's called? i understand it has much to offer that my old tired os x (it's already on the fourth version) just doesn't, like a registry, a "my documents" folder, a command line (i need to learn more about the advantages of \ vs /), and a software-based start button. i am a bit worried about the supposed lack of games and software development tools . . .
unfortunately, my job forces me to use os x -- (have pity on me -- i have to use it for music and video production, and graphic design) ugh! how i wish i could just do some database queries. . .
they also insist my hair remain uncombed. i have high hopes for the lifestyle changes this new OS may hold for me!
mr c
this is the ONLY app i miss from windows. sure, i use audacity, and have tried peak on os x, but neither of these are as straightforward and stable as soundforge.
For those who don't know, soundforge is a 2-track wave editor that is quick as lightning when you're doing a lot of editing . . .
every other software i've used on windows has been a delicate toy compared to os X.
oh, except firefox -- truly the killer (as in spyware killer) app for winXP.
mr c.
i understand where you're coming from, but i think you lack complete understanding here. sure, you want to be able to buy os x for your intel box, and you feel apple is *keeping it from you*, but you must understand, that there is no way apple can make os x as stable and useful AND make it work on the bazillion permutations of pc's that are (or could be) out there.
apple still sees the hardware and OS as intricately tied (which they are). only when IBM decided to use some OS from redmond did people start to see the two as separate.
mr c.
let me get this straight. kid records himself on rental equipment. returns equipment with tape still in the recorder. tape gets digitized and distributed on the net. kid gets $300k in damages.
bull.shit.
maybe he deserved an apology, but not money.
good point, but i why wouldn't the average user be able to replace windows? the average user i see mainly surfs the web, manages their music and photos, maybe does some word processing.
it makes perfect sense for google to release a web-orientated OS that ran their apps.
search engine. check
mail. check
blogs. check
maps. check
photo organizer. check
i think the only thing missing is google office.
mr c
while i realise that postings to a dev list shouldn't be taken as gospel, why would a dev list posting of benchmarks be assumed to be doctored? of course i would expect this from a marketing dept, but a dev list?
chris
as far as i'm concerned, i hate using WMP -- it just seems like a piece of shit. the problem is that windows forces me into using it. itunes is ok to use -- i don't mind it, so i don't notice that os x forces me to use it. not that any of this is right or not hypocritical, but thems the mechanics of the psychology.
mr c
as another poster noted, they dropped firewire 800 (now it's just 400) on the macbook (nice, uh, name guys). seems like there was a recent story about the demise of firewire -- as if apple was phasing it out. this sure would support that claim -- anyone know the digs? mr c
perhaps a compromise here is to have a limit on the number of links per time frame. that is, say the limit is 10 stories per month. say user XXX submits 15 very GOOD stories -- they all get accepted, but only the first 10 get the links.
mr c
and "creativity, skill and experience will always be in demand" comments.
this thread goes the same way every time . . .
mr c
learned on a ][e, and there wasn't a whole lot to do except program (only games i had were infocom games, so, to a degree, i think it helped my reading -- also made me think about grammer a little bit when i wanted to write my own game, had to design a parser).
although i learned a lot, i think it scewed my perception some, too. i think it made me think a bit too deterministically, and this is the real danger in video games, methinks. how many games don't have a clear-cut "way to go"? and are still fun (ie, actually get played)?
mr c
30G is a bit thin, but think of this: having a 10Gig solid state partition for the OS, pagefile, applications and etc., then a 100G(or whatever) for all the data (mp3's, video, photos, if you have a lot). this way, unless you're really crunching data, watching a video or something, the OS would run off the RAM disk, which would save battery life, and, with possibly faster access times.
i might try this once usb sticks get up to 6G or more -- i only need 3G for OS X.
mr c
1. rant against co. creating huge media blitz
2. invest in said company
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!
well, it kinda depends on whether you are a completist in story terms. i agree wholeheartedly with the reviewer about WW -- i think some nu-metal-post-grunge band godsmack or something or other did the soundtrack; it serves to inform the overall vibe of WW. i also found myself losing any empathy for the prince in WW, but in the context of the trilogy, i do suppose it makes sense -- overall WW is rather shallow, especially given the depth of SOT -- wow, what great story and character development (something video games mostly lack, for some reason).
so, to answer your question, you would probably be ok skipping WW, but if you're completionist, and can find a copy for $10, go for it -- just be prepared to kick up your suspension of tast-- er, disbelief.
cheers,
mr c
the person whom is seen as largely responsible for wikipedia (can't think of his name) was on npr the other day, basically saying that wikipedia is in its "beta" stage. once enough articles are solidified and reviewed, they will be "locked" into the official release, which is how much OSS works, IIUC.
/. smearing, say, bill gates? would the press at large be screaming out for "moral responsibility" from /.?
how hard is this to grasp? i suppose they would do good to make this known on the home page, but while everyone is calling for "moral responsibility" from wikipedia, what about "individual responsibility" for each person using it?
the attack on the politician is also a non issue. what would happen if someone posted a post on
and why isn't an email to the editors to please remove said content (assuming it is complied with) not enough?
wikipedia is an awesome phenomenon no matter how you slice it, warts and all. anyone who wants to naysay with, "there are errors, and no way to control content" and the like are missing the forest for the trees.
cheers,
mr c
one of the most toxic substances around, which, not at all incidentally, we are advised to just "dispose" of when we're done with it. Gee, I wonder what the author did with his? Tossed it in the garbage, or throw it into the sewer?
good point, but how many people do you think even *know* there's Hg in their LCDs, let alone A) know it's dangerous or B) will *bother* putting it anywhere but in the trash?
mr c
just back off, god. mob mentality is so retarded on the internet. especially from you minority zealots. "BUT MY 0.25% of the market share browser doesn't work flawlessly, waaaaaaah"
i can go along with the rest of your post (ie. "you get what you pay for"), but this is pretty obtuse. so the whole internet should only support IE? why not throw out the whole http, tcp/ip, et al, spec and let microsoft rewrite them?
this is like telling me i can't take my motorbike on the road since >1% of vehicles on the road are bikes. . .
mr c
i wonder how this legislation would affect america's army -- the game that is promoted by the u.s. army for recruitment and training . . .
http://www.americasarmy.com/
mr c.