Reimaging is fine and all but what do you use to keep all of the patches current on that image? If you have no way to apply patches to this image, you will be sending the computer out without all of the security patches, and those take time to apply manually.
Unfortunately, in a Microsoft world, everything is painful, even the status quo.
"The classic "baby sticking a fork in the socket and dying a sizzly death" scenario seems remarkably thin on the ground."
At the age of two, my son became infatuated with wall sockets (American). Despite putting plastic adapters and other security precautions, he managed to stick tweezers into a wall socket. He did not die but he never played with wall sockets again.:)
"Out of curiosity, how exactly do you verify that you are infection free without a scanner? Sure, you probably don't have anything overt, like a botnet hijack, but what about less obvious things like rootkits?
You should probably take your magical ninja virus detection powers and do some consulting for those poor bastards who run Norton...."
Odd that you should mention Norton and ninja skills in the same sentence. I have discovered 2 viruses on my work network in the past that were not being detected. Yes, we were running Symantec Antivirus at the time. The two viruses were: msinfo.msi (March 2008) msnupdater.exe(August 2008).
I guess what I am really saying is that yes, magical ninja skills will allow you to detect viruses that are running more reliably than automated programs will.
"fuck your fetishization of the industrial age as all we should aspire to. welcome the poorer, more mellower american age. time to step off the world stage as its master, and fuck you to those of you who think we need to stay in that role for some reason"
Despite the flamebait nature of your comment, I would like to point out an error in your thinking. America did not try to become the master of the world. America just did the best it could and it just so happened that the best that America could do outclassed the rest of the world.
With that in mind, the idea of stepping off of the world stage as its master implies that America should stop trying to do the best that it can. What value is there in not striving for the best? Why can the rest of the world not strive for better rather than America quitting and stepping to the end of the line? What would be the purpose?
In short, it would seem that the words you have spoken display a desire to hold an entity back rather than encouraging other entities to step forward. Such regressive thinking, along with your overly aggressive wording clearly indicate that you harbor a hatred/dislike of America and wish nothing more than to do it, and its populace, harm.
In short, your post should be modded down as flamebait rather than modded as +5 interesting.
I have not read your book yet, however, I think I will now. My question to you concerns this line here in the email:
"I certify under penalty of perjury, that I am an agent authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the intellectual property rights and that the information contained in this notice is accurate."
Can you speak to the Attorney General in California and have this agent brought up on charges of perjury? I am unsure how this kind of thing works but it looks like an actual crime, possibly fraud and/or perjury, has been committed.
Cheers
(these captchas are too omniscient. this one is "concepts")
"The universe is still expanding in all directions at the speed of light, then the entropy per unit volume will still stay low enough to be habitable, right?"
No. You do not add entropy, just as you do not add dark. The expansion of space actually increases entropy as entropy can be characterized by a lack of usable energy (kind of like how dark is defined as a lack of light). Energy can only be extracted from a difference in potential (hot/cold, positive/negative, etc). Entropy "places" everything at the same potential.
Your writing touched me. I too was in love with my Amiga. No modern computer comes close to AmigaDOS 1.3 on any of the Amigas. You should realize that rot was creeping in even as early as AmigaDOS 2.0 though. It was sure to die.
I still almost cry when I think of Armour Geddon. A 3D combat game that allowed you to enter 6 different vehicles, from airplanes to tanks to hovercraft. And, it ran on a 7mhz machine with only 512K (yes, kilobytes, not megabytes) of ram. Just amazing what could be done. Just amazing at how crappy our current systems are.
Yes, my passion died with my Amiga too. I keep trying to resurrect it, but it gets murdered even more each year as new Linux kernels, new versions of OS X, and new versions of MS Windows come out. None of them contain the beauty and resourcefulness of the Amiga. (kernel 2.2 came pretty damned close though!)
"What, you want me to break out a 'scope or packet analyzer? Want me to pop the top on their green box out by the curb? Hack into their Cisco box at the head end? No, thanks -- it's *their* debugging problem, not mine!:)"
Aha! You just proved his point though. It is not all Black Magic to you. The original point was that to most people, all this communication stuff just kind of happens with absolutely no concept of how any of it works. You, obviously, know how it works. The whole premise was that people are making decisions based on insufficient knowledge, not that it is bad to call The Company when things go wrong.
Sorry if this was a bit incoherent. Had a bad night.
"Almost as dumb as correcting people about things you have no knowledge of and are, as it happens, wrong about. The University of Colorado goes by CU. Colorado State University goes by CSU. "Colorado University" doesn't go by anything, because it only exists in your head."
I am honestly trying to be kind here. UCCS is the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs. There is also a campus for Colorado University that exists in Colorado Springs. I say this as a resident of Colorado Springs.
Respectfully,
strike
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Well, to be quite honest, Apple bricked (unable to reflash back to normal) my SuperDrive through a "security" update. The update was to prevent people from being able to rip DVDs. I did not even realize what had happened until after I replaced it.
I wanted to rip a dvd so I stuck a dvd in my replacement superdrive and the ripping process errored out. I said hmmmmm. Performed some research, and searched for a flash update to unlock my drive... which is when I ran across numerous discussions about the model number of my previous drive. These discussions centered around a security update Apple pushed in November 2007 (iirc) which bricked that particular model number. Obviously, the intention was NOT to brick the drive, however, the drive was indeed bricked.
I have bought 2 more laptops since then, neither of them Apple.
"Would you rather that RAM sit there doing nothing? Windows Vista has many features that utilize RAM to its fullest extent. Any free RAM on my system is RAM that is sitting on its lazy ass doing nothing. Windows Vista is actually smart enough to user it (Super Prefetch comes to mind) when my applications are not.
I'm actually typing this in Internet Explorer 8 on Windows Vista Business SP1 32-bit on a Pentium M 1.4 GHz with 1 GB RAM, and it's actually quite snappy."
LOL. You are killing me man. It may be using all of that ram for "caching" but let the computer sit still for a while and then click on the start menu or move a window. What happens? Everything still locks up waiting for the stuff you use all the time to be swapped in from the page file. It kind of makes you wonder what they are caching since it is clearly nothing that is useful to the end user.
If I had to guess, I would guess that all of that ram is being used to hold statistics and other operational information that is useful for DRM or law enforcement purposes.
From my own personal experience as a child and as a parent: Spanking as a punishment does not achieve the desired effect. Spanking as a method of hijacking the evolutionary pain/reflex mechanism works absolute wonders.
I have never had the need to spank my daughter and she is 16.5 years old now. I have spanked my son a total of 6 times in his entire life and will not ever do so again (spanking between the ages of 2 and 12 is fine, any younger and it is nothing but abuse, any older and it could affect their sexual development). He is turning 13 tomorrow. They are both extremely well behaved children.
For my son, I would explain to him, in a calm voice, what he did wrong. I would then spank him with my bare hand on his butt (with his pants on, unlike when I was a child). I would then stand him up and explain why he received the spanking again. His poor behavior never repeated.
In short, physical corrections should only be used in rare cases when major behavioral corrections need to be achieved. It should never be used as punishment. (Fuck you mom, dad, and stepdad!)
"Perhaps you should e-mail Valve asking them to address this problem...have you done that?"
Yes, I did speak with them about it. They told me to ensure that some.blob file (I have forgotten which one now as I stopped playing my Steam games a while ago) was untouched and that I should be able to stay in offline mode indefinitely... however, in practice, that was clearly untrue. The limit was around 30 days of offline use.
I would like to furthermore state, that, not everyone has a high speed connection at all times. This software can only ever be useful to those who are fairly well off financially and in a first world country. The numerous large updates require a fat pipe and the disk usage grows and grows continuously. My son's Steam folder is over 80 GB and he only has something like 4 games installed. All 80 of those gigabytes came over the network.
"Again, like I said above, yes it's fine for me. I buy games cheaply and don't feel the need to make some money back from them. If you really have to resell every game you buy then simply avoid Steam games. Or again, contact Valve asking them what their opinion of first sales rights is, and ask them specifically why Steam doesn't allow people to sell the things they bought. Raging at me won't solve anything."
So, you are saying you never want to give your games away to your friends after you are done playing them? It is not necessarily a monetary issue at stake here. It is about control and ownership. There is no need to ask Valve what their stance on this issue is as their stance is quite obviously clear.
One of the limitations of the written word is that the attitude of the receiver plays a large part in the deciphering of the intended message. At no point was I raging, however, you seem to have taken a slight bit of sarcasm being expressed as an indicator of extreme emotion. What does this imply about society as a whole? It seems many people are programmed in this manner nowadays. Interesting times.
"Some would argue that it's actually one of the least limiting forms of DRM in the software world. You can play your games anywhere, on any PC and download them as many times as you want. Configs and savegames (separate from DRM I know) are portable and stored remotely so it's even less hassle for you.
But don't let me stop you ranting..."
And I will not stop you from ranting either... however, what happens when you have extremely limited connectivity? I spent 2.5 years in Iraq and I could only play my Steam based games for about a month after each vacation period spent back at home. You also neglect to speak about selling games that you own... wait, you do not own them. You are paying money to use them. But I am sure that is OK to you.
I typically use sir when speaking to anyone whose name I do not know. I will drop it immediately if the person proves they do not deserve any sort of respect.
I do not treat police any different than the random stranger, therefore, they get a sir or ma'am added to sentences just as a store clerk, vagrant, or President of the United States would get. This is known as proper courtesy in some parts of America. It has nothing to do with the relative station in life, as in America, we do believe that everyone is created equal and should be granted courtesy until that courtesy is abused.
"(No such problem on Linux, of course; rm -rf / will happily wipe your entire fs, including the rm binary and the/bin directory.)"
Kind of. Let me explain as I have actually done this before, on purpose. rm -rf / will not jump across partitions successfully. So if you have/home mounted from a different partition than/, it will not disappear.
"The landmark research was carried out under Williams' direction, and using a significant fraction of his own director's discretionary time on the Space Telescope. He decided to conduct the Hubble Deep Field program to use Space Telescope's exquisite resolution and high sensitivity to push back the very limits of time and space."
Furthermore, I can see how you might interpret the above posters comments about "nothing being there" as trolling as well, however, I think you saw it only due to your seemingly aggressive nature. When I read his words, I saw the words "nothing known to be interesting" since everyone knows that the universe is supposedly homogenous on a large scale.
*shrug* I do not think it is wise to assume so quickly that people are trolling.
"P.S. be sure to bring a big external drive. You'll need it to hold the thousands of movies people will let you copy off their drives."
Yes, yes, bringing a HUGE drive is a great idea. Several of them even... however, since I work in IA for you folks, could I possibly suggest that you have a virus scanner program on that drive? Honestly, viruses are a major problem as many of you in Afghanistan should know (FRAGO 11 ring a bell?).
In summary, bring hard drives and bring anti virus software.
There are always people who hate others due to nationality, skin color, etc. These people, the haters, are rightly reviled. However, you are mixing that issue up with the issue of whether or not a resource (jobs) that is in short supply should be given to citizens or non-citizens. It is clear that resource (jobs) should be allocated to the citizens first. This also has nothing to do with immigration, so stop wrapping that issue into it as well.
"The problem is that the people here don't want the dream. They want prosperity, and they feel entitled to prosperity."
Where do you get your supposed facts from? I do not recall any scientific poll being performed where the attitudes of Americans towards immigrants were painted in such a manner. It seems clear that you have an axe to grind. I am an American and I am entitled to the pursuit of prosperity. Guess, what, so are you, regardless of your nationality.
I fail to see how pointing out how the H1B program is all fucked up brings out all this hate against the American worker. Sure, there are people in the H1B program who are participating in the spirit of the program, however, the grim reality is that the damned program is overly abused to fuck American workers out of a fair days pay and THAT is what the problem is.
If someone wants to immigrate to American, fine. Great. Come on over. If someone wants to come to America to make lots of money compared to what they would make in their home country, and then go home to that country later and enjoy their riches, fuck you. You are stealing from Americans, plain and simple. We built the infrastructure. We built the society. For you to come over and steal from it is immoral. If you are going to come over and get a job, then fucking stay here and live with the consequences of lowered wages instead of escaping off to where your gains are considered wealth.
They are not cheaters per se. Cheating is their modus operandi. They are griefers. Their goal is to get you as mad as possible. If they can empty out a server, they are happy. If they can make you angry, they have succeeded in their goals.
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Reimaging is fine and all but what do you use to keep all of the patches current on that image? If you have no way to apply patches to this image, you will be sending the computer out without all of the security patches, and those take time to apply manually.
Unfortunately, in a Microsoft world, everything is painful, even the status quo.
Regards
"The classic "baby sticking a fork in the socket and dying a sizzly death" scenario seems remarkably thin on the ground."
At the age of two, my son became infatuated with wall sockets (American). Despite putting plastic adapters and other security precautions, he managed to stick tweezers into a wall socket. He did not die but he never played with wall sockets again. :)
strike
"Out of curiosity, how exactly do you verify that you are infection free without a scanner? Sure, you probably don't have anything overt, like a botnet hijack, but what about less obvious things like rootkits?
You should probably take your magical ninja virus detection powers and do some consulting for those poor bastards who run Norton...."
Odd that you should mention Norton and ninja skills in the same sentence. I have discovered 2 viruses on my work network in the past that were not being detected. Yes, we were running Symantec Antivirus at the time. The two viruses were: msinfo.msi (March 2008) msnupdater.exe(August 2008).
I guess what I am really saying is that yes, magical ninja skills will allow you to detect viruses that are running more reliably than automated programs will.
strike
"fuck your fetishization of the industrial age as all we should aspire to. welcome the poorer, more mellower american age. time to step off the world stage as its master, and fuck you to those of you who think we need to stay in that role for some reason"
Despite the flamebait nature of your comment, I would like to point out an error in your thinking. America did not try to become the master of the world. America just did the best it could and it just so happened that the best that America could do outclassed the rest of the world.
With that in mind, the idea of stepping off of the world stage as its master implies that America should stop trying to do the best that it can. What value is there in not striving for the best? Why can the rest of the world not strive for better rather than America quitting and stepping to the end of the line? What would be the purpose?
In short, it would seem that the words you have spoken display a desire to hold an entity back rather than encouraging other entities to step forward. Such regressive thinking, along with your overly aggressive wording clearly indicate that you harbor a hatred/dislike of America and wish nothing more than to do it, and its populace, harm.
In short, your post should be modded down as flamebait rather than modded as +5 interesting.
strike
Hello Mr Crowell,
I have not read your book yet, however, I think I will now. My question to you concerns this line here in the email:
"I certify under penalty of perjury, that I am an agent authorized to act on
behalf of the owner of the intellectual property rights and that the
information contained in this notice is accurate."
Can you speak to the Attorney General in California and have this agent brought up on charges of perjury? I am unsure how this kind of thing works but it looks like an actual crime, possibly fraud and/or perjury, has been committed.
Cheers
(these captchas are too omniscient. this one is "concepts")
"The universe is still expanding in all directions at the speed of light, then the entropy per unit volume will still stay low enough to be habitable, right?"
No. You do not add entropy, just as you do not add dark. The expansion of space actually increases entropy as entropy can be characterized by a lack of usable energy (kind of like how dark is defined as a lack of light). Energy can only be extracted from a difference in potential (hot/cold, positive/negative, etc). Entropy "places" everything at the same potential.
strike
I am curious. Are you the same guy who wrote DICE, a C compiler for the Amiga?
Thanks,
Dave
Your writing touched me. I too was in love with my Amiga. No modern computer comes close to AmigaDOS 1.3 on any of the Amigas. You should realize that rot was creeping in even as early as AmigaDOS 2.0 though. It was sure to die.
I still almost cry when I think of Armour Geddon. A 3D combat game that allowed you to enter 6 different vehicles, from airplanes to tanks to hovercraft. And, it ran on a 7mhz machine with only 512K (yes, kilobytes, not megabytes) of ram. Just amazing what could be done. Just amazing at how crappy our current systems are.
Yes, my passion died with my Amiga too. I keep trying to resurrect it, but it gets murdered even more each year as new Linux kernels, new versions of OS X, and new versions of MS Windows come out. None of them contain the beauty and resourcefulness of the Amiga. (kernel 2.2 came pretty damned close though!)
strike
"What, you want me to break out a 'scope or packet analyzer? Want me to pop the top on their green box out by the curb? Hack into their Cisco box at the head end? No, thanks -- it's *their* debugging problem, not mine! :)"
Aha! You just proved his point though. It is not all Black Magic to you. The original point was that to most people, all this communication stuff just kind of happens with absolutely no concept of how any of it works. You, obviously, know how it works. The whole premise was that people are making decisions based on insufficient knowledge, not that it is bad to call The Company when things go wrong.
Sorry if this was a bit incoherent. Had a bad night.
strike
"Almost as dumb as correcting people about things you have no knowledge of and are, as it happens, wrong about. The University of Colorado goes by CU. Colorado State University goes by CSU. "Colorado University" doesn't go by anything, because it only exists in your head."
I am honestly trying to be kind here. UCCS is the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs. There is also a campus for Colorado University that exists in Colorado Springs. I say this as a resident of Colorado Springs.
Respectfully,
strike
Well, to be quite honest, Apple bricked (unable to reflash back to normal) my SuperDrive through a "security" update. The update was to prevent people from being able to rip DVDs. I did not even realize what had happened until after I replaced it.
I wanted to rip a dvd so I stuck a dvd in my replacement superdrive and the ripping process errored out. I said hmmmmm. Performed some research, and searched for a flash update to unlock my drive... which is when I ran across numerous discussions about the model number of my previous drive. These discussions centered around a security update Apple pushed in November 2007 (iirc) which bricked that particular model number. Obviously, the intention was NOT to brick the drive, however, the drive was indeed bricked.
I have bought 2 more laptops since then, neither of them Apple.
strike
"Would you rather that RAM sit there doing nothing? Windows Vista has many features that utilize RAM to its fullest extent. Any free RAM on my system is RAM that is sitting on its lazy ass doing nothing. Windows Vista is actually smart enough to user it (Super Prefetch comes to mind) when my applications are not.
I'm actually typing this in Internet Explorer 8 on Windows Vista Business SP1 32-bit on a Pentium M 1.4 GHz with 1 GB RAM, and it's actually quite snappy."
LOL. You are killing me man. It may be using all of that ram for "caching" but let the computer sit still for a while and then click on the start menu or move a window. What happens? Everything still locks up waiting for the stuff you use all the time to be swapped in from the page file. It kind of makes you wonder what they are caching since it is clearly nothing that is useful to the end user.
If I had to guess, I would guess that all of that ram is being used to hold statistics and other operational information that is useful for DRM or law enforcement purposes.
strike
From my own personal experience as a child and as a parent: Spanking as a punishment does not achieve the desired effect. Spanking as a method of hijacking the evolutionary pain/reflex mechanism works absolute wonders.
I have never had the need to spank my daughter and she is 16.5 years old now. I have spanked my son a total of 6 times in his entire life and will not ever do so again (spanking between the ages of 2 and 12 is fine, any younger and it is nothing but abuse, any older and it could affect their sexual development). He is turning 13 tomorrow. They are both extremely well behaved children.
For my son, I would explain to him, in a calm voice, what he did wrong. I would then spank him with my bare hand on his butt (with his pants on, unlike when I was a child). I would then stand him up and explain why he received the spanking again. His poor behavior never repeated.
In short, physical corrections should only be used in rare cases when major behavioral corrections need to be achieved. It should never be used as punishment. (Fuck you mom, dad, and stepdad!)
"Perhaps you should e-mail Valve asking them to address this problem...have you done that?"
Yes, I did speak with them about it. They told me to ensure that some .blob file (I have forgotten which one now as I stopped playing my Steam games a while ago) was untouched and that I should be able to stay in offline mode indefinitely... however, in practice, that was clearly untrue. The limit was around 30 days of offline use.
I would like to furthermore state, that, not everyone has a high speed connection at all times. This software can only ever be useful to those who are fairly well off financially and in a first world country. The numerous large updates require a fat pipe and the disk usage grows and grows continuously. My son's Steam folder is over 80 GB and he only has something like 4 games installed. All 80 of those gigabytes came over the network.
"Again, like I said above, yes it's fine for me. I buy games cheaply and don't feel the need to make some money back from them. If you really have to resell every game you buy then simply avoid Steam games. Or again, contact Valve asking them what their opinion of first sales rights is, and ask them specifically why Steam doesn't allow people to sell the things they bought. Raging at me won't solve anything."
So, you are saying you never want to give your games away to your friends after you are done playing them? It is not necessarily a monetary issue at stake here. It is about control and ownership. There is no need to ask Valve what their stance on this issue is as their stance is quite obviously clear.
One of the limitations of the written word is that the attitude of the receiver plays a large part in the deciphering of the intended message. At no point was I raging, however, you seem to have taken a slight bit of sarcasm being expressed as an indicator of extreme emotion. What does this imply about society as a whole? It seems many people are programmed in this manner nowadays. Interesting times.
strike
"Some would argue that it's actually one of the least limiting forms of DRM in the software world. You can play your games anywhere, on any PC and download them as many times as you want. Configs and savegames (separate from DRM I know) are portable and stored remotely so it's even less hassle for you.
But don't let me stop you ranting..."
And I will not stop you from ranting either... however, what happens when you have extremely limited connectivity? I spent 2.5 years in Iraq and I could only play my Steam based games for about a month after each vacation period spent back at home. You also neglect to speak about selling games that you own... wait, you do not own them. You are paying money to use them. But I am sure that is OK to you.
strike
I was interested in checking why that URL is filtered so I tried to go to the URL http://files.kavefish.com/pictures/collections/funny_cat_pictures/_index-list.html
Apparently, it is blocked in Websense under the category of sex. Is it really funny cat pictures? I guess I will never know.
I typically use sir when speaking to anyone whose name I do not know. I will drop it immediately if the person proves they do not deserve any sort of respect.
I do not treat police any different than the random stranger, therefore, they get a sir or ma'am added to sentences just as a store clerk, vagrant, or President of the United States would get. This is known as proper courtesy in some parts of America. It has nothing to do with the relative station in life, as in America, we do believe that everyone is created equal and should be granted courtesy until that courtesy is abused.
Respectfully,
strikethree
"(No such problem on Linux, of course; rm -rf / will happily wipe your entire fs, including the rm binary and the /bin directory.)"
Kind of. Let me explain as I have actually done this before, on purpose. rm -rf / will not jump across partitions successfully. So if you have /home mounted from a different partition than /, it will not disappear.
strike
I do not think he was trolling. I did some fact checking just now and it does indeed seem that the research was done on the Directors discretionary time. From http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1996/01/text/
"The landmark research was carried out under Williams' direction, and using a significant fraction of his own director's discretionary time on the Space Telescope. He decided to conduct the Hubble Deep Field program to use Space Telescope's exquisite resolution and high sensitivity to push back the very limits of time and space."
Furthermore, I can see how you might interpret the above posters comments about "nothing being there" as trolling as well, however, I think you saw it only due to your seemingly aggressive nature. When I read his words, I saw the words "nothing known to be interesting" since everyone knows that the universe is supposedly homogenous on a large scale.
*shrug* I do not think it is wise to assume so quickly that people are trolling.
"P.S. be sure to bring a big external drive. You'll need it to hold the thousands of movies people will let you copy off their drives."
Yes, yes, bringing a HUGE drive is a great idea. Several of them even... however, since I work in IA for you folks, could I possibly suggest that you have a virus scanner program on that drive? Honestly, viruses are a major problem as many of you in Afghanistan should know (FRAGO 11 ring a bell?).
In summary, bring hard drives and bring anti virus software.
"Also, the Band of Brothers name was claimed by the Goons, so they can't reform under it."
That is correct. They are called KenZoku now. It is apparently supposed to mean Family or somesuch.
strike
There are always people who hate others due to nationality, skin color, etc. These people, the haters, are rightly reviled. However, you are mixing that issue up with the issue of whether or not a resource (jobs) that is in short supply should be given to citizens or non-citizens. It is clear that resource (jobs) should be allocated to the citizens first. This also has nothing to do with immigration, so stop wrapping that issue into it as well.
strike
You know what? Screw you.
"The problem is that the people here don't want the dream. They want prosperity, and they feel entitled to prosperity."
Where do you get your supposed facts from? I do not recall any scientific poll being performed where the attitudes of Americans towards immigrants were painted in such a manner. It seems clear that you have an axe to grind. I am an American and I am entitled to the pursuit of prosperity. Guess, what, so are you, regardless of your nationality.
I fail to see how pointing out how the H1B program is all fucked up brings out all this hate against the American worker. Sure, there are people in the H1B program who are participating in the spirit of the program, however, the grim reality is that the damned program is overly abused to fuck American workers out of a fair days pay and THAT is what the problem is.
If someone wants to immigrate to American, fine. Great. Come on over. If someone wants to come to America to make lots of money compared to what they would make in their home country, and then go home to that country later and enjoy their riches, fuck you. You are stealing from Americans, plain and simple. We built the infrastructure. We built the society. For you to come over and steal from it is immoral. If you are going to come over and get a job, then fucking stay here and live with the consequences of lowered wages instead of escaping off to where your gains are considered wealth.
meh
Dude, that was deep. It made me cry. Truth.
They are not cheaters per se. Cheating is their modus operandi. They are griefers. Their goal is to get you as mad as possible. If they can empty out a server, they are happy. If they can make you angry, they have succeeded in their goals.
strike