Not all of the opposition to GM crops stems from "...asshole science-fearing luddites." How about all of the farmers getting sued for infringement by Monsanto because Monsanto's GM crops contaminated the farmer's own crops?
or here's this: " The real possibility of interbreeding is dramatized by the defense of farmers against lawsuits filed by Monsanto, the agribusiness company most involved in research and development of genetically modified crops. The company has filed patent infringement lawsuits against some farmers. Monsanto claims that the farmers obtained Monsanto-licensed genetically modified seeds from an unknown source and did not pay royalties to Monsanto. The farmers claim that their unmodified crops were cross-pollinated from someone else's genetically modified crops planted a field or two away.
Percy Schmeiser has been farming in Saskatchewan, Canada, for 53 years. He has served in the Canadian Parliament and been a mayor. Instead of retiring, he has spent the last several years fighting Monsanto after having been sued for patent infringement. Schmeiser grew canola plants on his farm, over the years developing his own seed that was resistant to diseases common in western Canada.
Property rights
In 1998, he was sued by Monsanto, charging that Schmeiser had infringed on their patent by growing genetically altered canola--Monsanto's Roundup Ready--without paying their technology fee. Schmeiser claimed he had never purchased seed from Monsanto. The suit went to trial in June 2000 in the Federal Court of Canada. The judge ruled that it didn't matter how Monsanto's genetically altered canola got onto Schmeiser's land, that any conventional plant that cross-pollinates with the genetically modified plants becomes Monsanto's property, that patent infringement had taken place and that Schmeiser must pay his 1998 profits from his canola crop to Monsanto." This is from here: (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/i s_30_38/ai_87353922)
So maybe you want to change that last declaration a little, unless you are truly that stupid...if so, nevermind- you're as closed minded as your "asshole science-fearing luddites", and a troll not worth having a discussin with.
Sorry, all I could get is this: " 500 - Internal Error
The server was unable to process your request.
Support personel has been notified, no further action is needed." And from the second link in TFA: "This thread does not exist."
Apparently they have more problems than a scam, I can smell server smoke from here!
I don't know if it's related to the taking over of accounts of other MMORPG's or not. My buddy's son had his WoW account hijacked last week, totally wiping out all of his character's inventory- he found his account for sale on ebay after I jokingly told him to look there for it, LOL!, and reported it to the WoW admin's. I think he got everything straightened out now, but have not had a chance to get the details from him yet.
I guess gold farming wasn't working fast enough for some of the greedy bastards.
*sarcasm warning* Probably disgrunted **AA lawyers/exec's- those MMORPG's are keeping everyone out of the theaters and record stores! *end sarcasm*
What an interesting concept. This may or may not go against mine, but I find it highly worthy of further thought. Thanks!
I always figured the concept of soul was formulated in our arrogance to further seperate us from the "animal world". I've seen too many references that either blatantly seperate humans from animals, or many more that imply the seperation. I don't subscribe to the seperation myself, as we are mammals, thus part of the animal world.
When I may express this in conversation, I usually get some response along the lines of "they (animals) don't have souls, but humans do." How do they know this- is the concept of soul really valid, or just made up to enable us to "rise above the dumb animal" mentality?
I mostly blame religion for this attempted discrimination, as I don't see any way in the near future to actually refute the hypothesis that "dumb animals" have no soul, or the means to prove that humans DO have a soul- to me, it's all conjecture, speculation, and FUD.
The importance of having a soul or not seems to tie into religion too much for me to even worry about it, maybe I will find out for sure when I die, maybe not- not wanting to cross that bridge just yet.
Ahhh! We don't learn, do we? "And then the gorilla's will freeze to death in the winter." (Simpson's show paraphrase- too lazy to look up the exact dialog for more accurate quote.)
This has not worked too well in the past from my experience/knowledge, as I recall Pennsylvania releasing some type of fly that was a natural foe of the gypsy moths that were denuding PA of it's forests. The flies turned out to be very aggressive against not only the gypsy moths, but also seemed to LOVE mammals also- worst fly bites I ever recieved, and the only time I've been thrown from a horse due to the horse being bitten by an insect. Impressive bucking bronco acts occured from normally mild-mannered equines after the fly's release!
(not much info, but here is a quick Google search- see Biological Controls) (http://www.ento.psu.edu/extension/factsheets/gyps ymoth.htm)
TFA states that: "They found that the jaws, used to capture prey and to defend the ant from harm, accelerate at 100,000 times the force of gravity, with each jaw generating forces exceeding 300 times the insect's body weight. The ants in this study had body masses ranging from 12.1 to 14.9 milligrams."
100,000 G's is pretty impressive IMHO. I think I'd have to fall into the sun to even come NEAR that, and I'm a fatboy-geek! (wouldn't work on earth- air resistence would limit me to 125-140 mph, I remember from my US Army days jumping out of perfectly good aircraft!?)
Awckk! I just spewed coffee all over my monitor, you insensetive clod!
LOL! Very good post- funny, and gets back ontopic, yet is directly replying to offtopic posts. Well done, since I don't have mod points to give you now.
I also thought of the space station reading the summary, but then RTFA- no, no space station was harmed (or even used) in creating this article.
The article might have been more interesting if it was about IBM buying the space station- especially if they included Russia's response!
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All hail the mighty/. effect! But the big/main question remains: does Netcraft confirm this? Does it run on Linux? (well, probably not since it has fragged itself!)
do not mod me- it won't make a diff!
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You have obviously never served your country. (ie:military, USO,Red Cross, etc.), so, STFU! Traitor?!? "And I could make an argument for calling you a traitor, or perhaps more accurately as being "Unamerican", for not being a proper defendant of the true American way. Nothing is more important to this society that the promulgation of profit."
You sir, are a complete asshat, and are not deserving of an opinion as far as "being a traitor" or an American.
If you want to seperate yourself from the real world, then ok- your fantasy world may work for you....good luck with that.
You have NO rights to infer "traitor" to anyone with your attitude, and as for your "god-given DUTY", then all I can say is show up here: 708 S. McDonald St., Stillwater, OK 74074 at at ANY TIME and I will set you straight, or end your miserable existence on this planet..that is a PROMISE, not a threat.
Un-American?, you have no fsckin' clue, assclown. Got a problem with this?- Fsck you- show up and we can discuss this face to fist. Yeah I'm militant about this, but having been in combat and fscked-up firefights in E.Berlin, Vietnam, and a few other places I would (gladly- for you) have to kill you for telling you about, I can tell you that the front-line troops are more worried about keeping themselves and their buddies alive, and have NO thoughts about copyright/patent infringement.
If they can download tunes to keep themselves entertained, so good for them.
Got a problem with that?....Tough shiite! Take it up with the front- line troops, or (better yet for me) follow my address to me, it's above.
BTW, I don't agree we should be in Iraq still, or should have even went there, but will support and defend my alumni at all costs. Not every mission do you as an individual ( as military personel) have a choice on deployment, but you still have an obligation to do your duty.
On the subject of imposing our will on oil/capitalism: yes, that may be an issue, but not the only one at stake.
Consider free choice about the way the respective countries are wanting to exercise their rights.
Also, where do you get off on the "god-given DUTY" aspect of the arg's? What gives you the right to invoke your "god" in this. That is already a defeatist argument.
Yes, I mod only when drunk, so SUE ME!- Ive got karma to burn!!!!
Wow, sorry about that. I even tested that page/link seconds (maybe 2 minutes) before I posted that! Oh well, I guess I have to get off my butt here and update some of my links.
I assure you if you check my journel, I will have some valid links (relative to my post) in there by Monday. ( If not, then at least a short description of what went wrong!)
I actually try and "support" my musical buddies, even though I can't play anymore myself! (probably best for the sane world!- I was NOT very good, but I sure enjoyed trying!)
I marked you as a friend here, so I can easily get back to you.
This is more for the support of my buddies, my Karma can stand some abuse, but my pride should not let my friends suffer.
My thinking is this: it's good to remember where you came from, as that gives you a point to work from (as in to get from point a to point b).
Thank you for the encouragement, tho' I hardly need it! Tea Party is calm compared to my imagination and knowledge (thanks Uncle Sam for the specific training you gave me to defend our Constitution from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!) Man what a quandrary!;)
*minor rant* Use paragraphs- much easier to get your message to your audience. *end rant*
I agree with you, but let's take it a little farther back.
Imagine you are living in the 1700's or the 1800's and computers and "digital" media is not even thought of yet, but these same type of patent and copyright laws that we have today (in the USA) are present back then.
Would the future people of the world (our present day) be aware of Mozart, Chopin, Beethoven, Shakespere, etc.? Maybe, maybe not. Copyright law and Patents were in place then, but for a very limited time. They (patents and copyrights) were deliberately set up to protect the inventor/creator for a short time- enough to get a few years monopoly on income, but not long enough to stifle innovation or improvement on the original works.
This worked out in the public's favor by allowing branching off/ improvement markets, but at the same time allowed the creator/inventor to profit for several years from it. The setup kind of forced the inventors/creators to keep at it- they could not afford to rest on their past works, as the public could get in on the act after a reasonable time- basically encouraging further progress.
Society as a whole could benefit from this arrangement- better our world and our place in the world, not like it used to be in the past (think "dark" or middle ages when the priests and/or King/gov't. had all of the knowledge/arts--sound familiar yet?)
IP is a counterproductive concept to all except copyright/patent holders. This would not be an issue if not for the drastic changes in patent life and copyright life as it is now, and even worse if the corp.'s have their way.
We are repeating history here folks, welcome to the dark ages again! We may not work our way out of it in our lifetime without catastrophic actions/measures. We either have to start turning things around now (to do this semi-peacefully), give up on it and accept it, or forcefully bring about reforms.
Don't kid yourselves, none of the options will be easy or painless. It's hard to "fight the beast" when your looking to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, but make no mistake- what we do or do not do will have an impact on how it "all turns out".
No easy answers, just some scary-assed problems to deal with,or ignore and let the kids deal with it...after all they be young and full of energy! (just kidding)
I keep thinking of one of the things my instructors used to keep trying to pound through our heads: the biggest strength the human race has is it's adaptibility- observe, adapt, overcome! The biggest weakness of the human race is it's adaptability- it's truly disgusting and amazing what we can adapt to and accept!
"THE RIAA HAD THEIR WAY WITH MUSICIANS FOR A LONG TIME. NOW IT'S OUR TURN TO HAVE OUR WAY WITH THEM."
Whoah! Wow! I have many friends that are professional musicians (I'm not- I used to be a "hobby" musician until an East German Border Guard shot my thumb off during a defecter extraction in Berlin in 1979- but htat's another story) that have the SAME EXACT attitude you just expressed, only it was never put forth so directly as you did so!
Thanks for that concept so plainly put. It gives me the "warm fuzzies" with even more outrage at the same time. Weird combo that!
I'm glad you qualified that with the "most people" statement. Truly (no sarcasm intended!) that sets you apart from the rest of your crowd, and allows for reasonable discussion. Salute!
What I would like to put forth as an argument has been too well covered by Eric Flint on Baen Books' website for me to even comment further, so without further ado... (http://www.baen.com/library/).
You may not agree, but at least you should find a well reasoned, well presented argument in favor of some free distribution of works. Please give that a read- it's well put, and there is a VERY good library of sci-fi/fantasy books availabe there also (some free as in speech, some you have to purchase- and after reading the free library, my appetite for more caused me to GLADLY seek out retail channels for most of the authors on Baen Library, and purchase their work!!).
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with Baen Books other than a satisfied reader/customer. I mean, come on, the works of David Weber, David Drake, Keith Laumer, James H. Schmitz- what's not to like!
Well said! Imagine if Martin Luther King Jr. had not been so active and determined. Also, remember the Boston Tea Party? That was REALLY against the law- just ask England! Nevermind the rebel uprising in 1776! I mean, those terrorists! What were they thinking going against unfair laws- the insolence of those lawbreakers! **Rant warning!!** Sheesh people, wake up, or accept Orwell's 1984....your choice. I've made mine, and in my visions of the future the **AA are blips in the history books as illustrations of how to stifle the arts instead of foster them.
(yeah S. Bono- you get special mention in company with Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Adolph H., and J. Stalin. You did well scumbag...and your music sucked-wasn't worth the changes to copyright terms IMO. May your scrotum be pulled up around your ears and tied in a square/reef knot, may your rectum swell shut permanently and you pecker rot off, and lastly, may you realize how pathetic you truly are and live forever with the knowledge that no one cares about what you did as an "artist", just what you did to fsck your alledged fans.) **end rant**
Issues? No, I don't have issues, but I DO have strong convictions!
That's what I'm seeing on teh intarweb- see these two from my journal:(http://slashdot.org/~rts008/journal/142267). No commentary- just two links.
Also I have several friends that are professional musicians and they are totally against the RIAA and their tactics. They offer their music online through an indie producer, and frequently pass out cd's at their gigs to promote themselves. (and do quite well with making money!)
Shameless plug warning: Fashinetta, and 60 Watt Jackass (http://www.geocities.com/sixtywattjackass/60WattJ ackass.html), it's an old website, but I can update in my journal later. BTW-Fashionetta and 60 Watt Jackass are mostly the same band, and they are currently working on some new stuff. (no- I don't get paid for this plug, but I do get to sit in on the recording sessions, and get free cd's! w00t!)
I'm sure from the tone of your post that it was meant as sarcasm, but...it's all pretty true. Congrat's for sinking your own argument with shoddy sarcasm. As a side note: "Anyway, it's not theft, because there were empty seats in the theater, so they weren't going to get any money even if I didn't go. "...this is not theft, as you watching the movie did not deprive anyone else the chance to watch the movie.
Get a clue on what theft actually is. Pick up a dictionary before you start spouting your hyperbole.
There is a big difference between copyright infringement and theft. Get a clue, and get over it. Otherwise, you sound like any other random idiot with their inane analogies.
The level of civil disobedience( (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary):"Main Entry: civil disobedience Function: noun : refusal to obey governmental demands or commands especially as a nonviolent and usually collective means of forcing concessions from the government.") should help clue you in where the majority of the PEOPLE (not the various corp.'s) see the issue.
Feel free to disagree (I'm sure you will), but do so in a physically public place- if you have the balls and don't mind losing them.
Now if you want to change your "theft" to infringing on copyrights, we can debate this further, if not- get bent, and get lost.
After this: (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/18/1 333217), let's see how things work out. The telecoms may be looking at a bleak future ($$$) after some lawsuits, and who knows what legislation (if any- but I expect telecom's lobbyists to go into overtime over this one) may transpire.
If nothing else, it will be VERY interesting in the forseeable near-future. Hopefully we won't have to lube up and bend over 'cause of these two things.
*dons tinfoil hat and backs into corner with "trapped rat mentality" due to recent happenings*
I have not had a haircut in 15 years (*nix user by damn!), you insensitive clod!
I get a lot of compliments on my ponytail, BTW, even if it is grey!
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Same here! If it was not for this one phenomenon, I would totally give up on any form of mysticism.
As it is now, my fiance (I know- invoking mythical creatures on/.- but really true!) claims my "girlfriend" (my PC) is inhabited by karmically unsound demons. It works fine for me, but she has all kinds of weird issues with it. And she does have some real strange crap happen, yet on her PC, none of these issues crop up- even tho' the two PC's share similar config's and app's. WTF!?
I guess my best bet is to convert the family's PC's to all Linux. Right now all three user PC's are WinXP SP2, with a fourth (Cent OS) as server. My "possesed biatch" is a tri-boot PC (Win98se for older games that won't run in XP, Win XpSP2, and Fedora Core 5- which is used 65-75% of the time).
I will get it straightened out when I can afford to take the network and all 4 PC's with me to Japan and have a Shinto preist perform an exorcism on the equipment. Don't know what else to do at this stage, but at least most of the problems are entertaining (but a hassle) instead of debilitating. LOL!... as a side note- I used to work with a guy who no matter what disaster would happen, he would just laugh. It would really bug me until I finally asked him why he could laugh at 4-6 hours "wasted" work- his reply: "well, I can either laugh about it, or cry about it, and laughing feels better and keeps me in a better frame of mind to deal with the problem, so I laugh about it when I can."
Good advice, tho' not easy sometimes. (this was when working in a heavy truck garage just out of the Army, thus the 4-6 hr.'s wasted work above- some jobs can get you in MUCH deeper than half or 2/3 a shift!!!)
Arrgh matey, methinks they be feelin' the sting of me cutlass! They'll be walkin' the plank soon lads, soon.
After the rootkit debacle, anything that goes bad for Sony is music to my ears! They (and their **AA cronies) seem to be losing their grip on reality more every day. They are starting to sound desperate and panicky. w00t!
As a former rancher, you should then know the difference between wheatfields (RTFA, or look at the pics with all of the heads formed on the wheat) and cornfields.
Ahh...I get it! I guess that is one of the reasons you're a FORMER rancher.
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Not all of the opposition to GM crops stems from "...asshole science-fearing luddites."
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How about all of the farmers getting sued for infringement by Monsanto because Monsanto's GM crops contaminated the farmer's own crops?
Start here:
(http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rl
or here's this:
" The real possibility of interbreeding is dramatized by the defense of farmers against lawsuits filed by Monsanto, the agribusiness company most involved in research and development of genetically modified crops. The company has filed patent infringement lawsuits against some farmers. Monsanto claims that the farmers obtained Monsanto-licensed genetically modified seeds from an unknown source and did not pay royalties to Monsanto. The farmers claim that their unmodified crops were cross-pollinated from someone else's genetically modified crops planted a field or two away.
Percy Schmeiser has been farming in Saskatchewan, Canada, for 53 years. He has served in the Canadian Parliament and been a mayor. Instead of retiring, he has spent the last several years fighting Monsanto after having been sued for patent infringement. Schmeiser grew canola plants on his farm, over the years developing his own seed that was resistant to diseases common in western Canada.
Property rights
In 1998, he was sued by Monsanto, charging that Schmeiser had infringed on their patent by growing genetically altered canola--Monsanto's Roundup Ready--without paying their technology fee. Schmeiser claimed he had never purchased seed from Monsanto. The suit went to trial in June 2000 in the Federal Court of Canada. The judge ruled that it didn't matter how Monsanto's genetically altered canola got onto Schmeiser's land, that any conventional plant that cross-pollinates with the genetically modified plants becomes Monsanto's property, that patent infringement had taken place and that Schmeiser must pay his 1998 profits from his canola crop to Monsanto." This is from here: (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/
So maybe you want to change that last declaration a little, unless you are truly that stupid...if so, nevermind- you're as closed minded as your "asshole science-fearing luddites", and a troll not worth having a discussin with.
Sorry, all I could get is this:
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500 - Internal Error
The server was unable to process your request.
Support personel has been notified, no further action is needed."
And from the second link in TFA:
"This thread does not exist."
Apparently they have more problems than a scam, I can smell server smoke from here!
I don't know if it's related to the taking over of accounts of other MMORPG's or not.
My buddy's son had his WoW account hijacked last week, totally wiping out all of his character's inventory- he found his account for sale on ebay after I jokingly told him to look there for it, LOL!, and reported it to the WoW admin's. I think he got everything straightened out now, but have not had a chance to get the details from him yet.
I guess gold farming wasn't working fast enough for some of the greedy bastards.
*sarcasm warning* Probably disgrunted **AA lawyers/exec's- those MMORPG's are keeping everyone out of the theaters and record stores! *end sarcasm*
What an interesting concept. This may or may not go against mine, but I find it highly worthy of further thought. Thanks!
I always figured the concept of soul was formulated in our arrogance to further seperate us from the "animal world". I've seen too many references that either blatantly seperate humans from animals, or many more that imply the seperation. I don't subscribe to the seperation myself, as we are mammals, thus part of the animal world.
When I may express this in conversation, I usually get some response along the lines of "they (animals) don't have souls, but humans do." How do they know this- is the concept of soul really valid, or just made up to enable us to "rise above the dumb animal" mentality?
I mostly blame religion for this attempted discrimination, as I don't see any way in the near future to actually refute the hypothesis that "dumb animals" have no soul, or the means to prove that humans DO have a soul- to me, it's all conjecture, speculation, and FUD.
The importance of having a soul or not seems to tie into religion too much for me to even worry about it, maybe I will find out for sure when I die, maybe not- not wanting to cross that bridge just yet.
But I like to switch! (tho' not in mid-stroke...not that coordinated!)
I doubt the whole company could do this, but Tony Hawk did a 900!
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(not a skaterpunk, but still impressed!)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9lDh8Bckl8&mode=
LOL!
But if I had mod points, I would also give you some +insightful/informative mods to apply to karma here, 'cause it's not only funny, but true!
Ahhh! We don't learn, do we?
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"And then the gorilla's will freeze to death in the winter." (Simpson's show paraphrase- too lazy to look up the exact dialog for more accurate quote.)
This has not worked too well in the past from my experience/knowledge, as I recall Pennsylvania releasing some type of fly that was a natural foe of the gypsy moths that were denuding PA of it's forests. The flies turned out to be very aggressive against not only the gypsy moths, but also seemed to LOVE mammals also- worst fly bites I ever recieved, and the only time I've been thrown from a horse due to the horse being bitten by an insect. Impressive bucking bronco acts occured from normally mild-mannered equines after the fly's release!
(not much info, but here is a quick Google search- see Biological Controls)
(http://www.ento.psu.edu/extension/factsheets/gyp
TFA states that:
"They found that the jaws, used to capture prey and to defend the ant from harm, accelerate at 100,000 times the force of gravity, with each jaw generating forces exceeding 300 times the insect's body weight. The ants in this study had body masses ranging from 12.1 to 14.9 milligrams."
100,000 G's is pretty impressive IMHO. I think I'd have to fall into the sun to even come NEAR that, and I'm a fatboy-geek! (wouldn't work on earth- air resistence would limit me to 125-140 mph, I remember from my US Army days jumping out of perfectly good aircraft!?)
Awckk!
I just spewed coffee all over my monitor, you insensetive clod!
LOL! Very good post- funny, and gets back ontopic, yet is directly replying to offtopic posts. Well done, since I don't have mod points to give you now.
I also thought of the space station reading the summary, but then RTFA- no, no space station was harmed (or even used) in creating this article.
The article might have been more interesting if it was about IBM buying the space station- especially if they included Russia's response!
All hail the mighty /. effect!
But the big/main question remains: does Netcraft confirm this?
Does it run on Linux? (well, probably not since it has fragged itself!)
do not mod me- it won't make a diff!
You have obviously never served your country. (ie:military, USO,Red Cross, etc.), so, STFU!
Traitor?!?
"And I could make an argument for calling you a traitor, or perhaps more accurately as being "Unamerican", for not being a proper defendant of the true American way. Nothing is more important to this society that the promulgation of profit."
You sir, are a complete asshat, and are not deserving of an opinion as far as "being a traitor" or an American.
If you want to seperate yourself from the real world, then ok- your fantasy world may work for you....good luck with that.
You have NO rights to infer "traitor" to anyone with your attitude, and as for your "god-given DUTY", then all I can say is show up here:
708 S. McDonald St., Stillwater, OK 74074 at at ANY TIME and I will set you straight, or end your miserable existence on this planet..that is a PROMISE, not a threat.
Un-American?, you have no fsckin' clue, assclown. Got a problem with this?- Fsck you- show up and we can discuss this face to fist.
Yeah I'm militant about this, but having been in combat and fscked-up firefights in E.Berlin, Vietnam, and a few other places I would (gladly- for you) have to kill you for telling you about, I can tell you that the front-line troops are more worried about keeping themselves and their buddies alive, and have NO thoughts about copyright/patent infringement.
If they can download tunes to keep themselves entertained, so good for them.
Got a problem with that?....Tough shiite! Take it up with the front- line troops, or (better yet for me) follow my address to me, it's above.
BTW, I don't agree we should be in Iraq still, or should have even went there, but will support and defend my alumni at all costs. Not every mission do you as an individual ( as military personel) have a choice on deployment, but you still have an obligation to do your duty.
On the subject of imposing our will on oil/capitalism: yes, that may be an issue, but not the only one at stake.
Consider free choice about the way the respective countries are wanting to exercise their rights.
Also, where do you get off on the "god-given DUTY" aspect of the arg's? What gives you the right to invoke your "god" in this. That is already a defeatist argument.
Yes, I mod only when drunk, so SUE ME!- Ive got karma to burn!!!!
Evil, truly evil genius type thinking there! You get to keep your BOFH badge another week. ;)
Congrat's on that lofty acomplishment!
Wow, sorry about that. I even tested that page/link seconds (maybe 2 minutes) before I posted that!
Oh well, I guess I have to get off my butt here and update some of my links.
I assure you if you check my journel, I will have some valid links (relative to my post) in there by Monday. ( If not, then at least a short description of what went wrong!)
I actually try and "support" my musical buddies, even though I can't play anymore myself! (probably best for the sane world!- I was NOT very good, but I sure enjoyed trying!)
I marked you as a friend here, so I can easily get back to you.
This is more for the support of my buddies, my Karma can stand some abuse, but my pride should not let my friends suffer.
My thinking is this:
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it's good to remember where you came from, as that gives you a point to work from (as in to get from point a to point b).
Thank you for the encouragement, tho' I hardly need it! Tea Party is calm compared to my imagination and knowledge (thanks Uncle Sam for the specific training you gave me to defend our Constitution from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!) Man what a quandrary!
*minor rant*
,or ignore and let the kids deal with it...after all they be young and full of energy! (just kidding)
Use paragraphs- much easier to get your message to your audience.
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I agree with you, but let's take it a little farther back.
Imagine you are living in the 1700's or the 1800's and computers and "digital" media is not even thought of yet, but these same type of patent and copyright laws that we have today (in the USA) are present back then.
Would the future people of the world (our present day) be aware of Mozart, Chopin, Beethoven, Shakespere, etc.? Maybe, maybe not. Copyright law and Patents were in place then, but for a very limited time. They (patents and copyrights) were deliberately set up to protect the inventor/creator for a short time- enough to get a few years monopoly on income, but not long enough to stifle innovation or improvement on the original works.
This worked out in the public's favor by allowing branching off/ improvement markets, but at the same time allowed the creator/inventor to profit for several years from it. The setup kind of forced the inventors/creators to keep at it- they could not afford to rest on their past works, as the public could get in on the act after a reasonable time- basically encouraging further progress.
Society as a whole could benefit from this arrangement- better our world and our place in the world, not like it used to be in the past (think "dark" or middle ages when the priests and/or King/gov't. had all of the knowledge/arts--sound familiar yet?)
IP is a counterproductive concept to all except copyright/patent holders. This would not be an issue if not for the drastic changes in patent life and copyright life as it is now, and even worse if the corp.'s have their way.
We are repeating history here folks, welcome to the dark ages again! We may not work our way out of it in our lifetime without catastrophic actions/measures. We either have to start turning things around now (to do this semi-peacefully), give up on it and accept it, or forcefully bring about reforms.
Don't kid yourselves, none of the options will be easy or painless. It's hard to "fight the beast" when your looking to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, but make no mistake- what we do or do not do will have an impact on how it "all turns out".
No easy answers, just some scary-assed problems to deal with
I keep thinking of one of the things my instructors used to keep trying to pound through our heads: the biggest strength the human race has is it's adaptibility- observe, adapt, overcome!
The biggest weakness of the human race is it's adaptability- it's truly disgusting and amazing what we can adapt to and accept!
"THE RIAA HAD THEIR WAY WITH MUSICIANS FOR A LONG TIME. NOW IT'S OUR TURN TO HAVE OUR WAY WITH THEM."
Whoah! Wow! I have many friends that are professional musicians (I'm not- I used to be a "hobby" musician until an East German Border Guard shot my thumb off during a defecter extraction in Berlin in 1979- but htat's another story) that have the SAME EXACT attitude you just expressed, only it was never put forth so directly as you did so!
Thanks for that concept so plainly put. It gives me the "warm fuzzies" with even more outrage at the same time. Weird combo that!
I'm glad you qualified that with the "most people" statement. Truly (no sarcasm intended!) that sets you apart from the rest of your crowd, and allows for reasonable discussion. Salute!
What I would like to put forth as an argument has been too well covered by Eric Flint on Baen Books' website for me to even comment further, so without further ado...
(http://www.baen.com/library/).
You may not agree, but at least you should find a well reasoned, well presented argument in favor of some free distribution of works. Please give that a read- it's well put, and there is a VERY good library of sci-fi/fantasy books availabe there also (some free as in speech, some you have to purchase- and after reading the free library, my appetite for more caused me to GLADLY seek out retail channels for most of the authors on Baen Library, and purchase their work!!).
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with Baen Books other than a satisfied reader/customer. I mean, come on, the works of David Weber, David Drake, Keith Laumer, James H. Schmitz- what's not to like!
Well said!
Imagine if Martin Luther King Jr. had not been so active and determined. Also, remember the Boston Tea Party? That was REALLY against the law- just ask England! Nevermind the rebel uprising in 1776! I mean, those terrorists! What were they thinking going against unfair laws- the insolence of those lawbreakers!
**Rant warning!!**
Sheesh people, wake up, or accept Orwell's 1984....your choice.
I've made mine, and in my visions of the future the **AA are blips in the history books as illustrations of how to stifle the arts instead of foster them.
(yeah S. Bono- you get special mention in company with Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Adolph H., and J. Stalin. You did well scumbag...and your music sucked-wasn't worth the changes to copyright terms IMO. May your scrotum be pulled up around your ears and tied in a square/reef knot, may your rectum swell shut permanently and you pecker rot off, and lastly, may you realize how pathetic you truly are and live forever with the knowledge that no one cares about what you did as an "artist", just what you did to fsck your alledged fans.)
**end rant**
Issues? No, I don't have issues, but I DO have strong convictions!
That's what I'm seeing on teh intarweb- see these two from my journal :(http://slashdot.org/~rts008/journal/142267). No commentary- just two links.
J ackass.html), it's an old website, but I can update in my journal later. BTW-Fashionetta and 60 Watt Jackass are mostly the same band, and they are currently working on some new stuff. (no- I don't get paid for this plug, but I do get to sit in on the recording sessions, and get free cd's! w00t!)
Also I have several friends that are professional musicians and they are totally against the RIAA and their tactics. They offer their music online through an indie producer, and frequently pass out cd's at their gigs to promote themselves. (and do quite well with making money!)
Shameless plug warning:
Fashinetta, and 60 Watt Jackass (http://www.geocities.com/sixtywattjackass/60Watt
I'm sure from the tone of your post that it was meant as sarcasm, but...it's all pretty true. Congrat's for sinking your own argument with shoddy sarcasm. As a side note: "Anyway, it's not theft, because there were empty seats in the theater, so they weren't going to get any money even if I didn't go. " ...this is not theft, as you watching the movie did not deprive anyone else the chance to watch the movie.
Get a clue on what theft actually is. Pick up a dictionary before you start spouting your hyperbole.
There is a big difference between copyright infringement and theft. Get a clue, and get over it. Otherwise, you sound like any other random idiot with their inane analogies.
The level of civil disobedience( (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary):"Main Entry: civil disobedience
Function: noun
: refusal to obey governmental demands or commands especially as a nonviolent and usually collective means of forcing concessions from the government.") should help clue you in where the majority of the PEOPLE (not the various corp.'s) see the issue.
Feel free to disagree (I'm sure you will), but do so in a physically public place- if you have the balls and don't mind losing them.
Now if you want to change your "theft" to infringing on copyrights, we can debate this further, if not- get bent, and get lost.
After this: (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/18/1 333217), let's see how things work out.
The telecoms may be looking at a bleak future ($$$) after some lawsuits, and who knows what legislation (if any- but I expect telecom's lobbyists to go into overtime over this one)
may transpire.
If nothing else, it will be VERY interesting in the forseeable near-future. Hopefully we won't have to lube up and bend over 'cause of these two things.
*dons tinfoil hat and backs into corner with "trapped rat mentality" due to recent happenings*
I have not had a haircut in 15 years (*nix user by damn!), you insensitive clod!
I get a lot of compliments on my ponytail, BTW, even if it is grey!
Same here! If it was not for this one phenomenon, I would totally give up on any form of mysticism.
/.- but really true!) claims my "girlfriend" (my PC) is inhabited by karmically unsound demons. It works fine for me, but she has all kinds of weird issues with it. And she does have some real strange crap happen, yet on her PC, none of these issues crop up- even tho' the two PC's share similar config's and app's. WTF!?
As it is now, my fiance (I know- invoking mythical creatures on
I guess my best bet is to convert the family's PC's to all Linux. Right now all three user PC's are WinXP SP2, with a fourth (Cent OS) as server. My "possesed biatch" is a tri-boot PC (Win98se for older games that won't run in XP, Win XpSP2, and Fedora Core 5- which is used 65-75% of the time).
I will get it straightened out when I can afford to take the network and all 4 PC's with me to Japan and have a Shinto preist perform an exorcism on the equipment. Don't know what else to do at this stage, but at least most of the problems are entertaining (but a hassle) instead of debilitating. LOL!... as a side note- I used to work with a guy who no matter what disaster would happen, he would just laugh. It would really bug me until I finally asked him why he could laugh at 4-6 hours "wasted" work- his reply: "well, I can either laugh about it, or cry about it, and laughing feels better and keeps me in a better frame of mind to deal with the problem, so I laugh about it when I can."
Good advice, tho' not easy sometimes. (this was when working in a heavy truck garage just out of the Army, thus the 4-6 hr.'s wasted work above- some jobs can get you in MUCH deeper than half or 2/3 a shift!!!)
Arrgh matey, methinks they be feelin' the sting of me cutlass!
They'll be walkin' the plank soon lads, soon.
After the rootkit debacle, anything that goes bad for Sony is music to my ears! They (and their **AA cronies) seem to be losing their grip on reality more every day. They are starting to sound desperate and panicky. w00t!
As a former rancher, you should then know the difference between wheatfields (RTFA, or look at the pics with all of the heads formed on the wheat) and cornfields.
Ahh...I get it! I guess that is one of the reasons you're a FORMER rancher.