So anyone else notice that if you remove MSN Messenger and Outlook Express via the Control Panel's "Add/Remove Programs", the programs aren't actually removed from "C:\Program Files\Messenger" and "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express" ?
WindowsUpdate still asks you to install patches for Messenger and OE, even though they are supposedly "uninstalled".
IE still somtimes shows a Messenger icon on one of the toolbars.
I still occasionally find the the MSN Messenger icon in the status tray, even though it is supposedly "uninstalled", and the users on my network aren't smart enough to run MSN Messenger from the commandline.
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Admittedly NT logfiles are slightly more organised than *nix logfiles. Most will at least be under c:\Windows\system rather than spread over/etc/var/usr/root/usr/X11 and even (I kid you not)/bin. The rather haphazard way different programs save their files about *nix systems can be a headache sometimes. It would be nice if someone would standardise the process.
I don't think you understand *nix logging, or you've been working with poorly-designed systems.
Locations for log files has been pretty well standardized by Posix and the LSB. Logs generally go in/var/log (or/var/adm on older systems), or in $APPLICATION_ROOT/log. A sysadmin might write a log to/var or/root, but those are temporary logs.
Logfiles which end up in/etc,/bin,/usr or/usr/X11 is the result of poor or very old configuration.
Now, compare this to a Windows 2003 Server running Exchange 2003, where the log files in c:\windows c:\Windows\system c:\Windows\system\Logfiles c:\Windows\system\security C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\ C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mtdata . Many of the logfiles are not viewable with a text viewer. Some of the log files really aren't "Log files", but are "Transaction Logs", which is a different thing in my book.
Some of this makes sense, some of this does not. But I'm not a windows admin, and I didn't design this network here, so maybe this is the result of a poor configuration.
Different movements, similar time. And actually their music sounds pretty similar. It's all realated.
As I understand it, the futurists were move about burning down the old culture and creating a brand new culture. I think they actually had big ambitions.
Dadaists were more about breaking any rules possible... they did crazy, irrational stuff on purpose. I can't find any music, but think of being stuck in a room with 10 machines all beating at a different rhythm, different tune, and none of the beats work with the beats of another machine, or running forks against garbage can lids.
What are the new movements going on in the electronic music world that the mainstream has yet to become aware of?
Forget the "Hi NRG European Techno" and the crud they play in movies. The repetative beats got old real quick.
For electronic music that is different, here are a couple places to check out. These may not be to your taste, but they definately different then your "unS unS unS unS unS unS unS unS WooooooooOOOOOT WoooooooooOOOOOT! 'Smack my Bitch Up!' unS unS unS unS unS unS unS unS":
Warp Records has released their entire catalog online. I recommend Plaid, Boards of Canada, Squarepusher
Here a couple nice stations playing a range of electronic music:
People in the Dada movement were creating mechanical music (or rather, un-music and noisy stuff) before 1920. Dada has had a pretty heavy influence on the modern industrial scene...
We'll have created a third world underclass in our own country.
I often wonder if that's the goal-- an uneducated labor force will keep wages down (And profits UP UP UP!), are less likely to complain about poor working conditions, less likely to organize, vote, or call their government representative to complain.
Bush just submitted a $2.57 Trillion budget proposal.
However, Bush's proposal doesn't include the majority of funding for the Iraqi war (Which costs approximately $1 Billion per day), and doesn't take into account the costs for Bush's Social Security transition [1].
Bush neglected to include hundreds of billions of dollars in his Budget proposal.
Bush is a bloody thief and a filthy liar.
[1] For the record, I'm still trying to figure out if his SS plan is good or bad overall. However, excluding the numbers from the budget is wrong and deceitful.
They could fix a few bugs too, it's getting old that you still have to jump through hoops to make PDFs open correctly in every version of IE from 4.0 to 6.
Or how about something much simpler, like allowing me to print a standard-width webpage on a 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper without the right edge getting cut off. Seems like it should be pretty easy, and I can do it in Firefox...
Simple: Country is where you whine about your dead wife, Western is where you talk about how you shot your wife.
Johnny Cash - Delia's Gone Delia, oh. Delia Delia all my life If I hadn't shot poor Delia I'd have had her for my wife Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone
I went up to Memphis And I met Delia there Found her in her parlor And I tied to her chair Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone
She was low and trifiling And she was cold and mean Kind of evil make me want to Grab my sub machine Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone
First time I shot her I shot her in the side Hard to watch her suffer But with the second shot she died Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone
But jailer, oh, jailer Jailer, I can't sleep 'Cause all around my bedside I hear the patter of Delia's feet Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone
So if your woman's devlish You can let her run Or you can bring her down and do her Like Delia got done Delia's gone, one more round Delia's gone
I assume since they have abundant electrical power,
He didn't say they had abundant electrical power.
While large parts of Africa certainly don't have reliable power, you could put these laptops to use in Egypt, Eritrea, South Africa, etc. where power may not be abundant, and it doesn't run 24/7, but there might be sufficient power to charge a laptop once in while.
And there are options like solar. There are numerous low-scale solar projects popping up throughout the world. Several nations have large projects underway to distribute solar panel + battery + flourescent light as an alternative to kerosine lamps, for instance. I wonder how hard it would be to adapt one of these to charge a laptop battery...
The last time Netscape was dangled in front of Microsoft, they poured buckets of money into IE and subsequently crushed Netscape.
Yes, but the last time Netscape was at version 4.7x. Netscape was old, buggy, slow, didn't render modern HTML correctly and was missing major features. It had been a couple years since the last major update.
Now, the Mozilla and Firefox projects are running full steam ahead, and they are serious potential competitors to IE. AOL could spend some money and create a new browser based off of the OSS projects.
Although that's just the technical side of things. If I remember right, AOL and Microsoft signed an agreement stating that AOL would use IE as their standard browser for a number of years. Moz isn't on the radar.
Someone please remind me why AOL bought Netscape again?
They bought it for the Netscape brand and the netscape.com portal to aquire more customers for their advertising business. The Netscape Browser wasn't on the top of their wishlist at all. Maybe Netscape allowed AOL to hedge their bets in the grand MSN vs AOL battle, and they probably used the browser while negotiating with Microsoft. But really, in 1998, Netscape 4.x was really starting to suck in comparison to IE.
Here was Steve Case's case for the purchase. Notice how he doesn't mention 'browser':
We should certainly reuse whatever we can, but alot of old computers aren't really that usable, and are really only fit for recyling.
It's one thing to donate your PII-400Mhz machine. It's quite another to dump that stack of 386s that have been rotting in the corporate basement onto some poor nonprofit.
We have several computer reuse places down here. Anything older then a PII sits there untouched, taking up valuable shelfspace.
A P-100 can't really run modern programs, the chips are old and unstable, and most importantly, nobody wants it.
You could ship it to a developing nation, but the shipping and handling is expensive.
No, he was specifically refering to an advertisement in the ionsphere for Van Halen's new album 'Radation Belt'.
The best part is on track 9 when Van goes "AHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
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So anyone else notice that if you remove MSN Messenger and Outlook Express via the Control Panel's "Add/Remove Programs", the programs aren't actually removed from "C:\Program Files\Messenger" and "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express" ?
WindowsUpdate still asks you to install patches for Messenger and OE, even though they are supposedly "uninstalled".
IE still somtimes shows a Messenger icon on one of the toolbars.
I still occasionally find the the MSN Messenger icon in the status tray, even though it is supposedly "uninstalled", and the users on my network aren't smart enough to run MSN Messenger from the commandline.
What gives?
But it is hard for us to admit we are wrong.
Screw you! I'm not wrong, YOU ARE!
Admittedly NT logfiles are slightly more organised than *nix logfiles. Most will at least be under c:\Windows\system rather than spread over /etc /var /usr /root /usr/X11 and even (I kid you not) /bin. The rather haphazard way different programs save their files about *nix systems can be a headache sometimes. It would be nice if someone would standardise the process.
/var/log (or /var/adm on older systems), or in $APPLICATION_ROOT/log. A sysadmin might write a log to /var or /root, but those are temporary logs.
/etc, /bin, /usr or /usr/X11 is the result of poor or very old configuration.
I don't think you understand *nix logging, or you've been working with poorly-designed systems.
Locations for log files has been pretty well standardized by Posix and the LSB. Logs generally go in
Logfiles which end up in
Now, compare this to a Windows 2003 Server running Exchange 2003, where the log files in c:\windows c:\Windows\system c:\Windows\system\Logfiles c:\Windows\system\security
C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\ C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mtdata . Many of the logfiles are not viewable with a text viewer. Some of the log files really aren't "Log files", but are "Transaction Logs", which is a different thing in my book.
Some of this makes sense, some of this does not. But I'm not a windows admin, and I didn't design this network here, so maybe this is the result of a poor configuration.
s/\)c/) c/
E55: Unmatched \)
Invalid command
You rock! I love you! Free beer for you!
MFH was one of the best stations out there. Tons of songs...
seems really pointless to go to all the effort of porting something if a better version of it is going to be out soon.
Possibly, but when the KDE-QT porters began their project, they didn't know that Trolltech was going to change licenses.
I wonder if Trolltech changed licenses because of the porting project...
I bet we could get up there in four years if we thought there was oil.
See the craters? I think we've already been there...
If the Military turns off GPS, they're in the dark too.
I wouldn't be at all suprised if they had the ability to turn it off for the non-Military, yet leave it on for the Military.
Here's a radical idea; how about making sure that kids can handle pencil-and-paper science and mathematics before we throw computers at them?
Why exclude one in favor of another?
Kids are perfectly capable of learning pencil-and-paper science and mathematics AND learning computers at the same time.
Computers can be quite useful in school. They can and should be suppliments to books and a live teacher.
At long last, we have an answer to the Underpants Gnome's business plan
1. Steal Underpants.
2. Let dogs play with underpants. Ignore dog for as long as possible.
3. Charge original owner to clean underpants.
4. Profit!
Different movements, similar time. And actually their music sounds pretty similar. It's all realated.
As I understand it, the futurists were move about burning down the old culture and creating a brand new culture. I think they actually had big ambitions.
Dadaists were more about breaking any rules possible... they did crazy, irrational stuff on purpose. I can't find any music, but think of being stuck in a room with 10 machines all beating at a different rhythm, different tune, and none of the beats work with the beats of another machine, or running forks against garbage can lids.
Annoying as heck. Sometimes quite interesting.
What are the new movements going on in the electronic music world that the mainstream has yet to become aware of?
Forget the "Hi NRG European Techno" and the crud they play in movies. The repetative beats got old real quick.
For electronic music that is different, here are a couple places to check out. These may not be to your taste, but they definately different then your "unS unS unS unS unS unS unS unS WooooooooOOOOOT WoooooooooOOOOOT! 'Smack my Bitch Up!' unS unS unS unS unS unS unS unS":
Warp Records has released their entire catalog online. I recommend Plaid, Boards of Canada, Squarepusher
Here a couple nice stations playing a range of electronic music:
http://www.live365.com/stations/after_party
http://www.live365.com/stations/mrs_emma_peel
http://somafm.com/listen/
Oh, how I miss MusicForHackers!
I was thinking the same thing. The Theramin was invented before 1921.
People in the Dada movement were creating mechanical music (or rather, un-music and noisy stuff) before 1920. Dada has had a pretty heavy influence on the modern industrial scene...
We'll have created a third world underclass in our own country.
I often wonder if that's the goal-- an uneducated labor force will keep wages down (And profits UP UP UP!), are less likely to complain about poor working conditions, less likely to organize, vote, or call their government representative to complain.
Bush just submitted a $2.57 Trillion budget proposal.
However, Bush's proposal doesn't include the majority of funding for the Iraqi war (Which costs approximately $1 Billion per day), and doesn't take into account the costs for Bush's Social Security transition [1].
Bush neglected to include hundreds of billions of
dollars in his Budget proposal.
Bush is a bloody thief and a filthy liar.
[1] For the record, I'm still trying to figure out if his SS plan is good or bad overall. However, excluding the numbers from the budget is wrong and deceitful.
They could fix a few bugs too, it's getting old that you still have to jump through hoops to make PDFs open correctly in every version of IE from 4.0 to 6.
...
Or how about something much simpler, like allowing me to print a standard-width webpage on a 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper without the right edge getting cut off. Seems like it should be pretty easy, and I can do it in Firefox
So which one is country and which is western?
Simple: Country is where you whine about your dead wife, Western is where you talk about how you shot your wife.
Johnny Cash - Delia's Gone
Delia, oh. Delia
Delia all my life
If I hadn't shot poor Delia
I'd have had her for my wife
Delia's gone, one more round
Delia's gone
I went up to Memphis
And I met Delia there
Found her in her parlor
And I tied to her chair
Delia's gone, one more round
Delia's gone
She was low and trifiling
And she was cold and mean
Kind of evil make me want to
Grab my sub machine
Delia's gone, one more round
Delia's gone
First time I shot her
I shot her in the side
Hard to watch her suffer
But with the second shot she died
Delia's gone, one more round
Delia's gone
But jailer, oh, jailer
Jailer, I can't sleep
'Cause all around my bedside
I hear the patter of Delia's feet
Delia's gone, one more round
Delia's gone
So if your woman's devlish
You can let her run
Or you can bring her down and do her
Like Delia got done
Delia's gone, one more round
Delia's gone
I assume since they have abundant electrical power,
...
He didn't say they had abundant electrical power.
While large parts of Africa certainly don't have reliable power, you could put these laptops to use in Egypt, Eritrea, South Africa, etc. where power may not be abundant, and it doesn't run 24/7, but there might be sufficient power to charge a laptop once in while.
And there are options like solar. There are numerous low-scale solar projects popping up throughout the world. Several nations have large projects underway to distribute solar panel + battery + flourescent light as an alternative to kerosine lamps, for instance. I wonder how hard it would be to adapt one of these to charge a laptop battery
The last time Netscape was dangled in front of Microsoft, they poured buckets of money into IE and subsequently crushed Netscape.
Yes, but the last time Netscape was at version 4.7x. Netscape was old, buggy, slow, didn't render modern HTML correctly and was missing major features. It had been a couple years since the last major update.
Now, the Mozilla and Firefox projects are running full steam ahead, and they are serious potential competitors to IE. AOL could spend some money and create a new browser based off of the OSS projects.
Although that's just the technical side of things. If I remember right, AOL and Microsoft signed an agreement stating that AOL would use IE as their standard browser for a number of years. Moz isn't on the radar.
Someone please remind me why AOL bought Netscape again?
They bought it for the Netscape brand and the netscape.com portal to aquire more customers for their advertising business. The Netscape Browser wasn't on the top of their wishlist at all. Maybe Netscape allowed AOL to hedge their bets in the grand MSN vs AOL battle, and they probably used the browser while negotiating with Microsoft. But really, in 1998, Netscape 4.x was really starting to suck in comparison to IE.
Here was Steve Case's case for the purchase. Notice how he doesn't mention 'browser':
"Netscape's brand, portal, and people will help turn the promise of electronic commerce into reality," said AOL chief executive Steve Case in a conference call.
Now I could barely fit a word document.
And how much of that bloat in Word is useful information?
If I open word, type the letter 'a', and save the document, it's a 20K document.
If you type 'a' 2000 times, it's still a 22K document.
What the heck is in that other 99.9% of the document?
a man.
Spam + Man = He feels like such a SMAN.
We should certainly reuse whatever we can, but alot of old computers aren't really that usable, and are really only fit for recyling.
It's one thing to donate your PII-400Mhz machine. It's quite another to dump that stack of 386s that have been rotting in the corporate basement onto some poor nonprofit.
We have several computer reuse places down here. Anything older then a PII sits there untouched, taking up valuable shelfspace.
A P-100 can't really run modern programs, the chips are old and unstable, and most importantly, nobody wants it.
You could ship it to a developing nation, but the shipping and handling is expensive.
No, he was specifically refering to an advertisement in the ionsphere for Van Halen's new album 'Radation Belt'.
E EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
The best part is on track 9 when Van goes "AHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It's The end of the INNERNETS!
No, it's only the end of the Nucular Innernet.