so i guess the worst that can happen now is that hackers can get a head start on how to exploit longhorn since longhorn will necessarily accomodate IE6 UI codes...
i'm sure there are things you do on a daily basis, outside of your specialty, that can be judged to be highly detrimental by experts in the respective field.
...that it's impossible to separate it from Windows, according to Microsoft. right? how is it possible, then, for IE7 to come out, even in beta form, for Longhorn, before Longhorn is out?
how can Microsoft claim it's not possible to ship Windows without IE when IE can ship without Windows? or is the IE7 coming out as a part of Longhorn beta?
um, there are 30+ million AOL/MSN dial-up users who won't understand half the words in your paragraph, much less embrase it.
can you name me criteria for a group of computers users counting more than a million that can understand what you wrote completely and are embrasing them as you claim?
no, home users aren't looking for plain old PCs with two year lifespan - because for what they use, PCs last a lot longer than that. there are quite a number of people out there still using windows 95/98, etc. those machines are a lot older than 2 years. and those machines don't feel outdated to those people because they still accomplish core functions as far as those users are concerned.
>1)If you went to a car dealer and bought a car for $30,000 and you found out it only cost the dealer $3,000 would you feel ripped off? If yes - isn't that what MS does with MS Office?
first, no dealer would get the car for that cheap, when you include all the costs, not just physical costs.
>2) How do you feel about governments spending hundreds of millions of dollars on software in countries where a large percent of the population is homeless and hungry (eg Brazil). Wouldn't the governments be better off spending the money locally on support than importing software from the US?
depends on how much local support costs. importing a supported and established software can be more cost efficient. hunger and homelessness are as much social problems as economic problems. i don't believe simply channeling economic resources to those problems will eradicate them.
to be honest, i don't really know. japan has some military capabilities, under self-defense units, but it's nowhere near, say, israel. (well, not many countries are, for that matter.)
if north korea got serious, not much can be done against it. japan's best bet is to threaten economic sanctions. right now, the sentiment from the politicians is that 'let's calm down, wait and see. we can't respond to every childish negotiation leveraging tactics of that country.' japan is asking the return of all the kidnapped nationals from north korea. it's a delicate situation...
completely off topic, but japan's world cup team is doing a bit of a "nuclear" tour. played north korean two days ago... next game is in tehran against iran. the coincidence... (the last team in the group is bahrain - probably no nuclear threat there..?)
>All raising the penalty in that case does is unfairly punish the few people they do manage to catch.
(emphasis mine) why is it unfair? if you break the law despite its punishment, then shouldn't you accept the punishment? "but others get away with it" is no excuse for not accepting the consequences.
google has a solid (i.e. already proven to be profittable) business model. most dot-coms didn't - they were mostly mundane business models that were somehow considered "novel" simply because they used internet as the communication medium.
here's a talk given by a google employee at Univ. of Washington. he mentions the 20% deal - the talk was given Oct. '04, so i don't think it's outdated yet.
is dedicated to working on projects he/she wants to work on, completely unrelated to his/her core job function.
i assume this means you get to take one day a week to brainstorm and work on whatever sounds cool.
when you have a collection of fairly bright and competent people and provide them with computational and other resources and give them some free time, you get some cool stuff.
thanks for your sentiment... as a japanese, my nervous level is also quite higher. (though i don't live in japan right now.) north korea once fired a missile over japan into the pacific... scary stuff...
on a lighter note, does this have anything to do with japan bearing north korea yesterday in the 2006 world cup qualifier with a tie-breaking goal 2 min. before the end of the game, winning 2-1? (just joking... i hope it stays a joke, though.)
>I guess the main influence is Open Source and freeware, which sort of prevent major software makers to gang up on consumers.
yeah, right, wishful thinking. "consumers" buying plasma TVs and other "gadgets" you are talking about hardly know about open source software.
i think it's mostly because it's not "physical." unlike TV, software feels so... not real. it's just something that runs on the computer - why is it "worth" so much money?
in a place like this, with the audience as it is, answers from this guy will be, at best, taken with a grain of salt. his credibility will not improve even if we ask "simple" questions. he will not provide the "answer" we are looking for anyway.
the reason we bother listening to this guy is because he occupies a prominent position at a prominent company of (good or bad) interest. questions would be far better used to probe the company's thought process rather than thinly veiled attempt at establishing credibility, only to be able to say later "ha ha, what is this troll, he knows nothing!"
sorry, but such a question is a waste. we know the answer - rather, we know the answer we want and we know the answer we can expect. they won't match and we end up with nothing new.
questions should be genuine. it shouldn't be used to prove a point, or lack of a point, or to push an agenda or to reinforce what we already know. nor should questions be used to try to push the answerer into a corner to "admit" something. we know it won't happen, it's self-serving and frankly, useless.
i thought about this a lot, since i started using online forums, including slashdot, and reading various blogs... traditionally, much "power" is given to those that can lash out the "last word" in any debate/argument/conversation. i'd like to call it the "last word syndrome."
journalists commanded much power (and editors, even more so) because printed articles are a one-way message. writers always got the last word. then came the online forums and even there, arguments turn into flamewars where every post is a repeat, but people keep on posting because they want to be the last one to put their point of view in.
blog is a hybrid. you post and others can comment, but those comments are not as visible. if you have a blog with decent audience, you do get to put out the "last words" for the most part, while allowing some feedback.
i can understand why management wouldn't like this. it's uncensored and they feel powerless because they don't have the control and they don't get to reply in the same way.
however, i don't understand the mentality of a new hire doing the best he can to appear "pompous, inconsiderate, disloyal" employee (to the management) by complaining openly to the world (but not directly to those at the company) via his blog. it's almost as if he wanted to challenge his perceived "right" to post about google on his blog...
i think labor costs associated with distribution and other various aspect of "selling" such computers will probably push the price up. the hardware may cost less than $100 to manufacture, but getting those to consumers add cost, more in developed countries.
well, then tell me, why does it still take my acrobat reader 10 seconds to launch? 10 seconds for excel? heck, why does it take 30 seconds to launch the OS?
10 years ago, those apps and OS launched about on the same time scale. if all components of a computer has gotten much, much faster, why do we still see the same lag?
i think this kind of question is what the post is about. not about testing the raw hardware improvement to make sure they have actually gotten faster. it's about user experience of performance, not just performance.
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hypocracy isn't l337ist, though. ;)
i don't care what you do or whether you are geek or not. saying incompetent users should be put to death sounds l337ist to me.
so i guess the worst that can happen now is that hackers can get a head start on how to exploit longhorn since longhorn will necessarily accomodate IE6 UI codes...
i'm sure there are things you do on a daily basis, outside of your specialty, that can be judged to be highly detrimental by experts in the respective field.
how can Microsoft claim it's not possible to ship Windows without IE when IE can ship without Windows? or is the IE7 coming out as a part of Longhorn beta?
can you name me criteria for a group of computers users counting more than a million that can understand what you wrote completely and are embrasing them as you claim?
no, home users aren't looking for plain old PCs with two year lifespan - because for what they use, PCs last a lot longer than that. there are quite a number of people out there still using windows 95/98, etc. those machines are a lot older than 2 years. and those machines don't feel outdated to those people because they still accomplish core functions as far as those users are concerned.
>1)If you went to a car dealer and bought a car for $30,000 and you found out it only cost the dealer $3,000 would you feel ripped off? If yes - isn't that what MS does with MS Office?
first, no dealer would get the car for that cheap, when you include all the costs, not just physical costs.
>2) How do you feel about governments spending hundreds of millions of dollars on software in countries where a large percent of the population is homeless and hungry (eg Brazil). Wouldn't the governments be better off spending the money locally on support than importing software from the US?
depends on how much local support costs. importing a supported and established software can be more cost efficient. hunger and homelessness are as much social problems as economic problems. i don't believe simply channeling economic resources to those problems will eradicate them.
i'm still pissed that corporate frauds go around, change their name, hide their past and go on business as usual...
i need a fairly frequent reminder that beef is for dinner... :P
that would sure be attractive, but i can't see how it would make economical sense.
if north korea got serious, not much can be done against it. japan's best bet is to threaten economic sanctions. right now, the sentiment from the politicians is that 'let's calm down, wait and see. we can't respond to every childish negotiation leveraging tactics of that country.' japan is asking the return of all the kidnapped nationals from north korea. it's a delicate situation...
completely off topic, but japan's world cup team is doing a bit of a "nuclear" tour. played north korean two days ago... next game is in tehran against iran. the coincidence... (the last team in the group is bahrain - probably no nuclear threat there..?)
(emphasis mine) why is it unfair? if you break the law despite its punishment, then shouldn't you accept the punishment? "but others get away with it" is no excuse for not accepting the consequences.
google has a solid (i.e. already proven to be profittable) business model. most dot-coms didn't - they were mostly mundane business models that were somehow considered "novel" simply because they used internet as the communication medium.
abstract page (with a link to the archived talk, ~1 hour)
i assume this means you get to take one day a week to brainstorm and work on whatever sounds cool.
when you have a collection of fairly bright and competent people and provide them with computational and other resources and give them some free time, you get some cool stuff.
on a lighter note, does this have anything to do with japan bearing north korea yesterday in the 2006 world cup qualifier with a tie-breaking goal 2 min. before the end of the game, winning 2-1? (just joking... i hope it stays a joke, though.)
yeah, right, wishful thinking. "consumers" buying plasma TVs and other "gadgets" you are talking about hardly know about open source software.
i think it's mostly because it's not "physical." unlike TV, software feels so... not real. it's just something that runs on the computer - why is it "worth" so much money?
the reason we bother listening to this guy is because he occupies a prominent position at a prominent company of (good or bad) interest. questions would be far better used to probe the company's thought process rather than thinly veiled attempt at establishing credibility, only to be able to say later "ha ha, what is this troll, he knows nothing!"
questions should be genuine. it shouldn't be used to prove a point, or lack of a point, or to push an agenda or to reinforce what we already know. nor should questions be used to try to push the answerer into a corner to "admit" something. we know it won't happen, it's self-serving and frankly, useless.
journalists commanded much power (and editors, even more so) because printed articles are a one-way message. writers always got the last word. then came the online forums and even there, arguments turn into flamewars where every post is a repeat, but people keep on posting because they want to be the last one to put their point of view in.
blog is a hybrid. you post and others can comment, but those comments are not as visible. if you have a blog with decent audience, you do get to put out the "last words" for the most part, while allowing some feedback.
i can understand why management wouldn't like this. it's uncensored and they feel powerless because they don't have the control and they don't get to reply in the same way.
however, i don't understand the mentality of a new hire doing the best he can to appear "pompous, inconsiderate, disloyal" employee (to the management) by complaining openly to the world (but not directly to those at the company) via his blog. it's almost as if he wanted to challenge his perceived "right" to post about google on his blog...
if one shuffle goes "corrupt" and music from one shuffle gets "recreated" on another? ;)
charity should be voluntary. and those who are charitable should not use that to make snide comments about those who are not.
i think labor costs associated with distribution and other various aspect of "selling" such computers will probably push the price up. the hardware may cost less than $100 to manufacture, but getting those to consumers add cost, more in developed countries.
10 years ago, those apps and OS launched about on the same time scale. if all components of a computer has gotten much, much faster, why do we still see the same lag?
i think this kind of question is what the post is about. not about testing the raw hardware improvement to make sure they have actually gotten faster. it's about user experience of performance, not just performance.