Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this way. MS and the rest of the proprietary software "industry" is too fucking rich and powerful for F/OSS people to win. Propritary people will win either through law or through filthy business.
The sad part is FSF will have to actually defend themselves at court. IANAL, is there some procedure in which a US court throws out a lawsuit because it's too fucking ridiculous?
I too would like to use any oppurtunity I can get to lash out at the "IP" people, but this just isn't one such case. Phishing is illegal and companies like Citibank have a lot more than just trademark infringement to take action against phishers. You do have a point that Citibank et al should make strong efforts to stop phishing. But I don't know if they're making any considerable efforts to stop this, so I won't make any comments about that. (I do know that they spend a lot of resources to stop credit-card fraud in which they're the ones who lose money)
Come on, the guy who posted the slashdot story is an "amateur" who doesn't really know how to "test" gcc. But I know what's going to happen. More "technology experts" like him are going to post "reviews" on their blogs, slashdot and other "technology" sites and within a few weeks, there will be a general opinion on the 'net that GCC 4.0 sucks. Especially since a lot of people seem to hate GNU so much.
I fucking hate how people think science and "technology" is just a business and call it a "market". Another reason to shut all Americans' mouths with superglue.
Heh, I never understood why Americans have this ideas about "visionaries" and how these visionaries know everything and can solve all problems and shit. And these visionaries are almost always rich business people or sometimes a politician/bearucrat. Over here in India, we value people only for what they know or what they're actually capable of doing. Although this visionary shit is catching up among some business people with shit loads of money (I guess the reason for this not existing earlier was "underdevelopment"), but people aren't valuing it that much. We do have a "visionary" president who used to be a nuclear scientist, but he just sticks making comments about science, which he is fairly authorised to do. (And of course, he visits schools and talks with children, making the media feel all warm and fuzzy inside.)
Yeah, becoming a CEO and earning a shit load of money is successful. Becoming an engineer and inventing/innovating/doing something technically challenging is being a loser. Looks like I was right in my earlier post when I said slashdot is becoming more and more a site for corporate whores.
Leveraging? You mean using?. Slashdot is getting more and more a discussion forum for corporate whores. Heck, the discussions are not even technical anymore. They're just useless "analisys" by "enlightened" individuals who think they have it all figured out. Slashdotters show their non-technical nature and idiocy in articles like the Google 302 redirect problem. (People were even claiming that this was not true and just impossible, while it was a known fact that this was possible.)
Seems like you're saying exactly what the author is saying. Except that he's saying it's bad, you're saying it's good. I'm going with the author. And I feel sympathy for him for being attacked by all the idiots. Oh and BTW, the slashdot summary is, as usual, completely misleading. Go read TFA. The summary almost resembles gossip between 12 year old school girls.
Parent really is *informative*. And despite other posts asking mods to mod parent up, I'm seeing the post being modded *down*. Apple zealots are really amazing.
Parent is serious. Well, at least I think that parent is true. People on slashdot either think that laws define morality (Apple is doing what it's legally bound to do, so there is no problem) or they just don't care about morality (Apple should do only what they're legally bound to do). Slashdotters say "They're in it for the money and they'll do something (including raping your dog) if it profits them and only if it profits them" as if that's acceptable. Well, theives are in it for the money too, and, by slashdotters' logic, it's only the legality of what they do that makes it unacceptable. So if theiving was legal, it would also be morally right and everyone should think theiving is acceptable (I'm not saying Apple is theiving. Learn to read English).
His kids have obviously showed him too much Halo 2, and not enough Half-Life 2.
So how is Half-Life 2 extremely different from Halo 2? They're both just FPS with good graphics. There's a guy standing, holding a weapon, geometrically everything seems like any other game and he shoot other things/people. Maybe he gets on some vehicle. That's exactly Dvorak's point. All we see each year are the same games (or same type of games) with improved graphics. In the past each game used to be wildly different from the other, were innovative and had good gameplay and not shiny graphics. Really. Super mario or even some more recent games are much better according to me. Although I'm not sure if Dvorak's right about whether this will be bad for game sellers. People (game buyers) these days are pretty stupid.
Untill you've had enough time to see how it performs for others
They did have time to see how it runs (maybe not on others' systems). That's why it came out of beta. MS does have enough resources to test their OS before it comes out of beta.
I think the problem here comes from just how not beta Microsoft considers the overall GUI shown in those screenshots...
No, Longhorn is going to be released in the future anyway so disappointing people early won't make much difference. Longhorn is still in beta and the GUI is not as polished/done as it will be in the end. So making screenshots of an unfinished product public early might, according to MS, create a negative opinion about it among people. And MS doesn't want that.
Offtopic: Is it just me or when you click on that superbowl ad link in firefox, firefox doesn't actually go to that page and just displays a blank white page? It happens to me with other links too. Usually when this happens, if i restart firefox, I can visit that link properly. Has anyone else experienced this? Is this some reported bug (with a solution) that I'm not aware of?
FYI, not all Mac users are enamored of Jobs. I'm a diehard Mac user, and I love Apple's products, but that doesn't mean that I love Apple, or blindly approve of Apple's actions.
You don't. The majority of others do. More so than the users of any other commercial/proprietary software. Although, judging by the rest of your post, I can't really be sure that you're not in that majority. (BTW, your post has nothing but rhetoric to counter my point. Come back when you have something real.)
"Poor capitalist". Heh. Don't know why but this phrase really makes me laugh.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this way. MS and the rest of the proprietary software "industry" is too fucking rich and powerful for F/OSS people to win. Propritary people will win either through law or through filthy business.
The sad part is FSF will have to actually defend themselves at court. IANAL, is there some procedure in which a US court throws out a lawsuit because it's too fucking ridiculous?
Probably paid by Apple.
I too would like to use any oppurtunity I can get to lash out at the "IP" people, but this just isn't one such case. Phishing is illegal and companies like Citibank have a lot more than just trademark infringement to take action against phishers. You do have a point that Citibank et al should make strong efforts to stop phishing. But I don't know if they're making any considerable efforts to stop this, so I won't make any comments about that. (I do know that they spend a lot of resources to stop credit-card fraud in which they're the ones who lose money)
Come on, the guy who posted the slashdot story is an "amateur" who doesn't really know how to "test" gcc. But I know what's going to happen. More "technology experts" like him are going to post "reviews" on their blogs, slashdot and other "technology" sites and within a few weeks, there will be a general opinion on the 'net that GCC 4.0 sucks. Especially since a lot of people seem to hate GNU so much.
I fucking hate how people think science and "technology" is just a business and call it a "market". Another reason to shut all Americans' mouths with superglue.
Heh, I never understood why Americans have this ideas about "visionaries" and how these visionaries know everything and can solve all problems and shit. And these visionaries are almost always rich business people or sometimes a politician/bearucrat. Over here in India, we value people only for what they know or what they're actually capable of doing. Although this visionary shit is catching up among some business people with shit loads of money (I guess the reason for this not existing earlier was "underdevelopment"), but people aren't valuing it that much. We do have a "visionary" president who used to be a nuclear scientist, but he just sticks making comments about science, which he is fairly authorised to do. (And of course, he visits schools and talks with children, making the media feel all warm and fuzzy inside.)
Yeah, becoming a CEO and earning a shit load of money is successful. Becoming an engineer and inventing/innovating/doing something technically challenging is being a loser. Looks like I was right in my earlier post when I said slashdot is becoming more and more a site for corporate whores.
Time travelling is a logical impossibility. It's science fiction. I can't believe that some people, at *MIT*, are taking this seriously.
You must be working in the marketing department of a company.
leveraging existing XML parsing libraries
Leveraging? You mean using?. Slashdot is getting more and more a discussion forum for corporate whores. Heck, the discussions are not even technical anymore. They're just useless "analisys" by "enlightened" individuals who think they have it all figured out. Slashdotters show their non-technical nature and idiocy in articles like the Google 302 redirect problem. (People were even claiming that this was not true and just impossible, while it was a known fact that this was possible.)
Seems like you're saying exactly what the author is saying. Except that he's saying it's bad, you're saying it's good. I'm going with the author. And I feel sympathy for him for being attacked by all the idiots. Oh and BTW, the slashdot summary is, as usual, completely misleading. Go read TFA. The summary almost resembles gossip between 12 year old school girls.
Parent really is *informative*. And despite other posts asking mods to mod parent up, I'm seeing the post being modded *down*. Apple zealots are really amazing.
Flamebait and Overrated? Oh come on, I can make far worse comments about Mother Teresa on slashdot and get modded as funny.
Parent is serious. Well, at least I think that parent is true. People on slashdot either think that laws define morality (Apple is doing what it's legally bound to do, so there is no problem) or they just don't care about morality (Apple should do only what they're legally bound to do). Slashdotters say "They're in it for the money and they'll do something (including raping your dog) if it profits them and only if it profits them" as if that's acceptable. Well, theives are in it for the money too, and, by slashdotters' logic, it's only the legality of what they do that makes it unacceptable. So if theiving was legal, it would also be morally right and everyone should think theiving is acceptable (I'm not saying Apple is theiving. Learn to read English).
His kids have obviously showed him too much Halo 2, and not enough Half-Life 2.
So how is Half-Life 2 extremely different from Halo 2? They're both just FPS with good graphics. There's a guy standing, holding a weapon, geometrically everything seems like any other game and he shoot other things/people. Maybe he gets on some vehicle. That's exactly Dvorak's point. All we see each year are the same games (or same type of games) with improved graphics. In the past each game used to be wildly different from the other, were innovative and had good gameplay and not shiny graphics. Really. Super mario or even some more recent games are much better according to me. Although I'm not sure if Dvorak's right about whether this will be bad for game sellers. People (game buyers) these days are pretty stupid.
(-1 troll, here I come)
Untill you've had enough time to see how it performs for others
They did have time to see how it runs (maybe not on others' systems). That's why it came out of beta. MS does have enough resources to test their OS before it comes out of beta.
The MS website seems fine now. This is about 13 minutes from your post. (Maybe they fixed it)
Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.
Evil will always succeed because people think this way.
I think the problem here comes from just how not beta Microsoft considers the overall GUI shown in those screenshots...
No, Longhorn is going to be released in the future anyway so disappointing people early won't make much difference. Longhorn is still in beta and the GUI is not as polished/done as it will be in the end. So making screenshots of an unfinished product public early might, according to MS, create a negative opinion about it among people. And MS doesn't want that.
That's why tooltips exist.
Offtopic: Is it just me or when you click on that superbowl ad link in firefox, firefox doesn't actually go to that page and just displays a blank white page? It happens to me with other links too. Usually when this happens, if i restart firefox, I can visit that link properly. Has anyone else experienced this? Is this some reported bug (with a solution) that I'm not aware of?
FYI, not all Mac users are enamored of Jobs. I'm a diehard Mac user, and I love Apple's products, but that doesn't mean that I love Apple, or blindly approve of Apple's actions.
You don't. The majority of others do. More so than the users of any other commercial/proprietary software. Although, judging by the rest of your post, I can't really be sure that you're not in that majority. (BTW, your post has nothing but rhetoric to counter my point. Come back when you have something real.)
The team around John Penix, Willem Visser, and Peter Mehlitz fought long and hard to get the development hosted outside of NASA
Long and hard indeed.
(I'm going to hell for this.)