Larry Page's Vision of the Future

adamjh writes "Yesterday, Google co-founder Larry Page gave an amazing talk to the 2005 graduating class of the University of Michigan College of Engineering. In true geek form, I made sure to record Larry's entire speech on my mobile phone in order to share with the Slashdot community a rare glimpse into Larry's thoughts on the past, present, and future -- on topics ranging from dropping out of Stanford to start Google to "Thinking Big" and the abundance of venture capital to traveling to Mars, curing world hunger, and well, much much more."

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LARRY PAGE OWNS YOU

[Aeron65432]

Funny enough, you blogged a speech by Larry Page it on Blogspot. Of all the blogsites....

Re:LARRY PAGE OWNS YOU

[mOoZik]

Don't forget Sergey Brin! ;):D

Re:LARRY PAGE OWNS YOU

[bsharitt]

MP3 direct dowload here

Re:LARRY PAGE OWNS YOU

[ThePromenader]

Sergey with the goo-goo-google-y eyes? : )

Drop out.....

[wpiman]

Well- seems he dropped out of Stanford. Seems all the successful CEOs drop out- Gates, Ellsion, and Page. Seems all the people he was preaching to are already doomed to be losers.

Re:Drop out.....

[learn fast]

Don't forget Dell, Jobs, Ballmer... also drop-outs

Re:Drop out.....

[whh3]

He dropped out of GRADUATE school. There's a difference. Bill Gates never finished undergrad.

From the google website:
(http://www.google.com/intl/en/corporate /execs.htm l#larry)
"Page became an honors graduate from the University of Michigan, where he earned a bachelor of science degree in engineering, with a concentration on computer engineering."

"While in the PhD program in computer science at Stanford University, Page met Sergey Brin and together they developed and ran Google, which began operating in 1998. Page went on leave from Stanford after earning his master's degree."

Re:Drop out.....

[DoubleReed]

hmmm... losers eh?

Re:Drop out.....

[timeOday]

He dropped out of GRADUATE school. There's a difference. Bill Gates never finished undergrad.

Yeah there's a difference... B.G. is still worth about 7x as much as Larry Page!

Re:Drop out.....

[Urusai]

Excellent. I've dropped out of graduate school, too. My future prosperity is assured. I just need to learn how to fool people with vaguely theory-based commercial schemes, and people will eventually pay me to talk about how flying cars, Martian tourism, and self-sudsing bath loofas are the future.

Re:Drop out.....

[Headcase88]

Damn! Imagine how rich I'd be if I dropped out of Elementary School >:(

Re:Drop out.....

[donothingsuccessfull]

> B.G. is still worth about 7x as much as Larry Page!
Yes, I for one would be willing to trade one Gates for seven Pages. Or one Page for a seventh of a gates, so long as they used a saw.

Re:Drop out.....

[smittyoneeach]

You will do nothing of the kind, once my patent is approved, mister!

Re:Drop out.....

[northcat]

Yeah, becoming a CEO and earning a shit load of money is successful. Becoming an engineer and inventing/innovating/doing something technically challenging is being a loser. Looks like I was right in my earlier post when I said slashdot is becoming more and more a site for corporate whores.

Re:Drop out.....

[mwood]

I'd say that those are two different kinds of success. Much of the strife in this world seems to be generated by contact among people who believe that only one (either one) of these is success, and the other just wasted motion.

Go for whichever one contributes most to your motivation to get out of bed in the morning, but please remember that others are motivated by different things.

Peak oil (again)

[s1234d]

I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but Peak Oil is going to prevent all this amazing sounding stuff in the future. We're going back to the Middle Ages and we need to find the best ways of dealing with that.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Do you find peace and comfort predicting the downfall of modern society? You'll just grow old and be a miserable loser while everyone else is fucking in their private space station.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[wpiman]

Well damn... I gues it is time to invest in that oxen farm......

Re:Peak oil (again)

[ardor]

I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but while Peak Oil is likely to happen, it will NOT prevent the stuff he is talking about, it will delay it.

Middle Ages are a thing of the past. You need to get rid of ALL SCIENCE, of all technical achievements, of all cultural changes, reinstall the church as the supreme power....

While it is wise to take Peak Oil seriously, doomsaying won't help anyone. Oh yes, a crisis is likely, it will result in drastic cuts in energy until alternative energy sources are fully installed. When fusion power becomes feasible, we're back on track again.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[StarKruzr]

Really "all" we have to do is move the energy economy away from petroleum. If we make the right investments now, we'll be okay with a minimum of pain.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Middle Ages are a thing of the past. You need to get rid of ALL SCIENCE, of all technical achievements, of all cultural changes, reinstall the church as the supreme power....

A significant number of people in the US are trying to do just that. They call it "intelligent design"

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Mac Degger]

You make light of the problem: fusion is expensive in terms of money and especially time (we have 50 year projections, assuming we build a giant fussion test plant right now, followed by actual usuable plants (if nothing goes wrong at all)...maybe). What makes you think we have enough energy reserves as it is to bridge the gap? And what makes you assume that fusion is the end of the need for oil?

Re:Peak oil (again)

[squidsoup]

The IEA has recently shifted its peak forecast date from 2035, to a vague 2015-2024. This is particularly significant, as the IEA's forecasts have traditionally been rather optimistic. There are a number of geologists that are suggesting we have hit global peak production now, or that we will in the very near future i.e. 2005-2007. If that is the case, we do not have enough time to replace our existing energy infrastructure. We also currently do not have a source of liquid fuel with the ERoEI of petroleum. Rather than being complacent in the hopes that future technologies will replace oil, we should be doing everything possible to reduce our consumption.

We will not be regressing to medieval civilisation, but life as we all know it will change irrevocably.

Get ready for some interesting times.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[ArbitraryConstant]

Peak oil will happen, but fusion isn't going to help us. We're generations away from commercial fusion power.

Fission is the only thing that is ready and available to step up, along with a few other things like coal gassification.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[nate nice]

Once oil goes over something like $100.00/barrel it becomes cost efficient to refine shale oil, which we have loads and loads of. Not to mention geological surveys that point to the Gulf of Mexico having more oil than the Saudis ever could dream of. It costs more to get at this oil, but as the cost/barrel rises, it become efficient to drill this and refine it. So in this regard, America is in fact in a great future position in regards to oil as a primary source of power. However, I would agree we should reduce our consumption if possible and seek other methods for generating power. Oil rising to a high price is probably the natural way to make people consume less.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[lee1026]

simple: if you have fusion why in the hell do you want to burn oil for?

Re:Peak oil (again)

[squidsoup]

According to Walter Youngquist, shale oil is a net loser i.e. it takes more energy to produce shale oil than is recovered from the shale oil/kerogen. It's not a question of economics. This is also the case with oil sands.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

the IEA's forecasts have traditionally been rather optimistic

The running-out-of-oil bleaters have been consistently, dependably, foolishly pessimistic.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

It is a question of economics, since tar sands operations are profitable when oil goes above $15/barrel. You can run your tar sand facility on anything. You can't fly an airplane on coal.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[ardor]

If that is the case, we do not have enough time to replace our existing energy infrastructure. Enough time - for what? You sound as if after a certain timespan there is no chance to ever again be able to create something like a generator. This will *not* be the case. I live in Austria, however, where 2/3rd of all power is gained by hydroelectric plants, and the remaining 1/3rd from caloric plants and renewable energies. I don't know how the United States gets its electricity, but AFAIK in Europe *electricity* won't be the main problem. The big issue is transportation. Currently there is no battery with enough energy density capable of replacing oil. Also, batteries are not that reliable, and can't store electricity for a long amount of time. Hydrogen could be a potential replacement, but right now its too insecure and expensive. I expect Peak Oil to be a big, BIG economical hit, leading to a massive world-wide crisis. But then people will start building solar cells, fission plants etc. Slowly at first, but there is nothing making the production of solar cells *impossible*. AFAIK there is no oil needed in the production of the latest solar cell types. And even if there is one: a) Peak Oil means the end of *CHEAP* oil, not the end of all Oil. Which leads to b) thermal depolymerization (for gaining it as a resource for other materials, NOT for transportation!), which is too expensive *right now*, but would be a net gain then (get the power from solar cells). Of course there would be a rather slow oil production at first, but in the meantime, society could - slowly - rebuild, and research could be done in fusion, renewable energies, and better thermal depolymerization. As for plastics, there are several ways to grow plastics with algae, and I even read about a way how to get plastics from orange peel and CO2. The part that's left is mostly medicines like aspirine (which needs oil directly as a resource). Thermal depolymerization would address this issue. Still, transportation remains. Well, we'll have to wait until somebody gets those hydrogen tanks right. It is not that research will be *impossible*. It will just take longer. So, relax.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[ardor]

What makes you think we have enough energy reserves as it is to bridge the gap?
I can always build some crude generator working with hydroelectric power. Just stick it into a river.
Then you have some electric power, you can power machines to build a better hydroelectric plant etc. Until you get nice hydroelectric plants. Then you can connect a thermal depolymerization facility, or a factory for solar cells. Then use the solar cells for yet more power etc.

Electricity has been around well *before* the age of oil. In fact, industralization began before the age of oil. So no middle age scenario here. And no perpetual doom either, since an electricity grid can be achieved without any oil.

We need something for the cars, though. Oh well, in Europe many trains have electrical engines, so maybe we would see a revival of the train. That is, until someone finds a way how to stuff a lot of energy in a battery or in a H2 tank (without being so unstable that it could blow up).

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Mac Degger]

But what did we use before oil? Coal (and the like), which at the time wasn't the most cleanly burning fuel.

Anyway, how exactly are you going to build all that you're proposing to build? How are you gonna power the transportation needed? What's gonna power the crane you need?

Re:Peak oil (again)

[ardor]

It is actually quite interesting. In the US no dogmatic belief has firmly established itself fully because there are dozens of other sects trying to do the same (Scientology for example). In Europe, this isn't possible either, but because the catholic church still has considerable power and privileges. While they are far from being the ultra-totalitary cruel governor it was in the middle ages, the catholic church still gets loads of money by convenient church-taxes only they get (!) no other religion gets income from taxes - this tax exists at least in Austria and Germany, i don't know about other countries.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[squidsoup]

We're not talking about electricty or the grid, but liquid fuels. Conventional oil isn't typically used to generate electricty. The energy infrastructure I was referring to was - oil refineries, oil distribution, petrol stations. Hypothetically, if we found an effecient way to produce hydrogen, with a positive ERoEI, making the transition would take decades. If peak oil geologists are correct, we do not have decades.

The oil crisis of the 70s, which was the result of an artifical shortage, was caused by a 5% drop in production. One we have reached the point of global decline, production will drop by 3-7% every year. Where will that leave us 5 years after decline?

Re:Peak oil (again)

[ardor]

You can build the first generator yourself, or using coals. Small, humble beginnings. We don't need oil for that.

Then we can power machines with electricity to build better plants etc. The obvious disavantage is the lack of speed here, but it would be a way out.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Mac Degger]

The first form of viable power-generating fussion will most likely be not-so-portable. And you might need oil for a number of other reasons, like plastics and medicine, not to mention tens of thousands of other chemicals which you can'yt produce without oil.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[ardor]

Yes, transportation is the real problem. I agree with that. The oil crisis of the 70s, which was the result of an artifical shortage, was caused by a 5% drop in production. One we have reached the point of global decline, production will drop by 3-7% every year. Where will that leave us 5 years after decline? The old infrastructure will most likely crash. After that, we have to rebuild everything. Not pleasant, but it is the way out. As I mentioned before, you can build crude plants, or use still standing ones, and power machines to create better plants etc. Once you reach a certain power output, connect a solar cell factory to it etc.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Before coal we used muscle power of draft animals and slaves. It was the only energy source available. Still, steam engines (both reciprocating and turbines) exist, they do not need to be re-invented, and their boilers burn almost anything from urban waste to hydrogen. Basically you can run steam power on anything which burns.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Any combustion engine in this world can burn either ethanol (Otto engines) or rapeseed oil (Diesel engines). Methanol is easily produced from coal by using Fischer-Tropsch synthesis, and ethanol can be produced from natural gas by catalytic hydration. Besides, any fermentable carbohydrates, like food industry and domestic leftovers, can be conveniently turned into ethanol by yeast and distilled.

What we will see is a shift from oil economy into ethanol/methanol economy. Diesel oil will be replaced by rapeseed oil - ethanol/methanol ester.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

You can run aircraft on anything which is liquid and combustible. Avgas can easily be replaced by ethanol and Jet-A by vegetable oil.

Coal can be converted into methanol by Fischer-Tropsch synthesis, which dates back to WWI.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Catholic Church is strong only in the Latino countries and in Ireland and Poland. Germanic and Baltic countries are mainly either Lutheran or Calvinist. Or totally paganish, like Finland.

Not to say, though, due to historical reasons many countries still have State Churches, which may or may not be funded by taxation (members only, though). In a sense this is a good idea. Nobody really needs to believe on what they teach (and can resign if they want), but those people with lukewarm religious affections find their haven in the State Church - and such paradigmatic status of the State Church also dampens a lot of both credibility and fanaticism of really outre denominations.

US is basically a Wild West of religions, and just anyone can come up with just as strange religion as he or she wants. With all the side effects.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Oil is nothing but a source of hydrocarbons, and there are several other sources of hydrocarbons available - natural gas, biomass, turf, coal, agricultural and food industry and domestic food leftovers, wood industry waste - you name it. Everything is a question of economy. The point on oil is about that it a) is easily available b) is conveniently transportable as it is liquid and c) easily refineable. That has so far made oil cheap compared to other sources of hydrocarbons. Once the price of oil will rise, we will see other sources of hydrocarbon becoming more and more feasible economically.

What we will see is end of cheap liquid fuel, shift on coal and bioenergy, and shift from gasoline and diesel oil into ethanol, methanol and vegetable fuel oil. Southern Sweden already runs on E85 - a fuel cocktail of 85% ethanol and 15% other alcohols and hydrocarbons. Its price is completely competeable with gasoline-based fuels.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[HuguesT]

Perhaps you are referring to a "crisis" as something as mild as what happened in the 70s when oil suddently became 3x as more expensive overnight. Oil was still available, it was just suddently not quite as cheap as before.

Now imagine that oil became suddenly 3x as expensive as it is now within the next 12 months. Would it be fun ? Is it impossible ?

This is not the worst that could happen. To bring us back to the middle ages would only take a small nuclear war. How does nuclear war between China and the US over oil sound to you ? Impossible again ? Within 20 years time China will be consuming as much oil as the US is consuming today.

One can only assume that China will have as aggressive a policy then as the US has now. I can't imagine things will go down smoothly.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[HuguesT]

Oil at $100 a barrel doesn't just mean that filling up your car is more expensive. Everything depends on oil, including growing and transporting your food.

The whole capitalist system is mostly a pyramid scheme that depends on growth. Expensive everything means less growth, more unemployment and potentially a nasty negative spiral when debt repaiments are not met, at the level of a whole country.

It can be very nasty. We will not run out of oil or out of oil replacements, this is not the problem.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[ardor]

No, for the middle ages to come again you need: a total devastation (nuclear war), total eradication of all cultural and social advances (like, human rights), complete and utter eradication of science, complete reinstallation of some dogmatic church as the center of power, total destruction of any technological advancements (even as simple as a canal system - in the middle ages there was no canal system) etc. So it is a little more difficult. The aftermath would be more likely a cuban- or south america-like scenario.

I don't like the situation either. No, I wasnt referring to a mild crisis with only 3x increase. Actually, I was thinking it from the worst case - have an infrastructure with little to no oil. Transportation would collapse, but my main concern was water and electricity, and you don't need oil for either of these. Take Austria for example, 2/3rd of the produced electricity is gained with hydroelectric plants. For the middle ages to come back, you need people to forget about electricity as well. As someone posted before, you can get a generator to work with steam.

The scenario I was referring to was a world after a total collapse, slowly rebuilding things like electricity and infrastructure. This was not the case in the 70ies.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[Anonymous Coward]

Finland is 89% Lutheran. So depending your definition of words "totally", "paganish", "like" and "Finland" you are either right or wrong.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[strider3700]

No It's a question of physics. Oil sands take about 2 barrels of oil to make 3 barrels of oil. so you're gaining oil. The more difficult it becomes to get to the sand the more oil required to get it out. My understanding of oil shale is it's much closer to a 1-1 ratio or a net lose in energy then the tar sands. Same goes for that ultra deep water oil. It's not a question of money it's a question of the energy required to get it out.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[new500]

. .

Once oil goes over something like $100.00/barrel it becomes cost efficient to refine shale oil,

Not if oil prices drive general inflation.

Although it is not a solitary inflationary driver, 1973 comes to mind, as does the double digit inflation that followed.

I do not have sufficient handle on the "import capital, export labor" model that some moot as a reason for continued low dollar interest rates, but dollar supply inflation is a common byproduct of both now and the (mid to late) 70's.

Though it's now widely appreciated that dollar money supply was inflated by policy in the 70's, so that the suddenly important "petrodollar" (value of dollar in Arabian reserve terms) would be 1. deflated due to supply 2. have to pass through the Federal Reserve and so back into the US banking system in any event, i do not wish to guess if there is an comparable policy today.

Anyone looking for a non academic view of this might read "Wriston" the bio of Walt Wriston, then chairman of Citibank. In there you have many anecdotal takes on how Citi expanded it's huge overseas network in lock - step with petrodollar recycling policy. I would even say that bio is fun - as it has enough interview material to cover the development of Citi in a very human, almost soap - opera style, whilst being very high on content. (I found myself re-reading individual *pages* to catch the significance of board - member quotes, e.g.)

As i'm interested recently in micro- not macro- economics, please forgive my lack of position on the issues i raised.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[mwood]

Not to mention about a bazillion bearings which still crave oil.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[mwood]

If there's enough energy available, we can assemble something resembling current liquid fuels from whatever is handy. I'd rather have batteries or H2 but we don't *have* to give up liquid hydrocarbons if that's the most practical bridge to the future, so long as we have some way of collecting or liberating enough energy to run the process.

It might be inefficient, but nobody ever cared much about the efficiency of a wood fire when he was wet and cold.

Re:Peak oil (again)

[sploxx]

fusion energy will be ready when mankind needs it - Lev Artsimovich

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[These are surely not the original words, but the message. I can't find a good online reference now.]

Re:Peak oil (again)

[lee1026]

well you can transmit power via electicity. and then you can charge up batterys with it. batterys are transportable.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Ninwa]

Much appreciated JBleau@gmail.com Take care! PS: Mod Parent Up

Thanks

[sammykrupa]

In true geek form,

From one geek to another: Thanks!

Re:Thanks

[Anonymous Coward]

In True Geek form...

Where's the Oggs man. I suppose I could just oggenc those .wavs but the "true geek form" was asking for it.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[The_Fire_Horse]

Hello helpful person!
Could you please email 2 copies to me - one is for my cousin.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

Textual transcript, anyone?

[rice_burners_suck]

You must have boatloads upon boatloads of bandwidth to be able to post something like that right on the front page of Slashdot.

I'll wait a few hours before hitting that link, but man, I wish there were a textual transcript of the same, because that would be easier to analyze, quote, and reference.

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[he-sk]

I'd like a textual transcript, too. Much easier to digest, at least for me.

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[siobHan]

Well, there is boatloads of bandwidth, but I don't think he'd like to see his bill.

About 8GB was transferred in about 18 minutes, before it was shut down.

J

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[shizzle]

Reminds me of an old SNL Weekend Update line (Kevin Nealon, I think... paraphrased from memory): "If you would like a transcript of tonight's broadcast, get a pen and write down everything I say really fast."

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[Anonymous Coward]

Would some kind time-traveller please provide a text version of the speech and reply in this thread.
Many thanks.

(Hey - what are the lotto numbers for this Saturday? I'll split the winnings with a nominated ancestor)

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[wahsapa]

listening to it serves its own purpose... i never knew kermit the frog graduated from standford

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[adamjh]

Actually, about 8GB was transferred in about 18 minutes, before pair.com's web server crashed and couldn't handle the load, and I received an email telling me that my files were being "locked".

Quoted from an email I received from pair.com technical support:

Because of the requests for these files, no other site hosted on the entire server was able to accept request due to the saturation to and from your server.

And lastly, your account transferred about 8 GB of data in 18 minutes.

So, 3 thoughts come to mind:

1. What bill? pair.com drops the day with the most-used bandwidth when calculating billing!

2. The files were quickly moved to University web servers which handled the load fine.

3. It's interesting that a pair.com support rep posted my account statistics in a public forum.. hmmm.

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[siobHan]

The server's Fast Ethernet was saturated and no other site could receive service. We handle Slashdottings on a regular basis, usually for customers with dedicated servers or high-volume accounts.

By the time the files moved to university servers, the article was no longer at the top of the Slashdot front page.

J

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[Tibe]

Rough text transcript of Larry Page's speach. '??' means I couldn't hear it.

I typed this out, but don't blame me for stuff thats wrong, reply to it to correct it. Or Google anything you want to know from it ;-)

I have no idea about copyrights, but it's Larrys speach, and I would bet deaf people have the right to see it.

--

Well thank you, it's a pleasure and honor to be here, and I don't know I think we're in trouble with details ?? the most authoritative source.

It's really kind of amazing to be here 10 years after I graduated, in 1995, from the electrical engineering and computer science department. [cheers] I have so much I want to say to you in a really short time, and we're going to go though it pretty quickly. Before I do that there is something I wish I was able to do at my graduation. You have tons and tons and tons of people here to supporting you. I'd like you all to get up and wave to your support, family, friends, and everybody.

I am deeply indebted to Michigan. Let try to give you a little of my history. One thing we didn't mention is my parents actually met here cleaning a car. So I really thought we should give them some thanks for that. ?? My dad actually said to me when I was deciding what school to go to "Well Ill pay for any school you want to go to as long as its Michigan" I have to admit this had a significant impact on where I ended up going. I'm also indebted to Michigan which was amazingly advanced in computation and this had been going on for a really long time. I remember using Zaptor? Which you guys probably don't know about, but in 1993 we had instant messaging, in the computer labs. Somebody would arrive, you'd know when they left, where they were. and you could instant message them, just like you do now on the internet, but that was in 1993, not today. In fact the main ?? speaker John ?? Brown, graduated in 1970, computer and communication sciences, which wasn't the normal kind of degree to have in 1970. In fact my dad graduated with his PhD in '65 also from that department having one of the first degrees like that to be awarded. I also learned from my father his electrical engineering assignments he would bring home he's 9 years older than me, and he went here as well, and I had learned how to do them all 9 years early. Its pretty helpful, made the classes a lot easier. I got great leadership training in ?? selling doughnuts apparently, that aparently still goes on here. One relaxing summer and I built an inkjet printer out of legos witch I recommend to everyone. If you have some extra time on your hands.

I also got a deep and relevant engineering education, just like all of you, and that's been very valuable in the time since I left Michigan. With good and lasting values, which I know a lot of you probably don't understand because your here, but its not true about everywhere people are nice and will talk to you and generally do the right things. Many of Goggles early employees came from Michigan too and I've really tried to give back to the university in anyway I can. I have been on the advisory board here and I'm sure I'll do other things in the future.

Now, I need to know a little more about you guys before I continue, so how many of you? I'll ask the graduates and the audience here, 'How many of you work, or will work, in Michigan?'

That's a pretty good number.

Alright, How about, 'Work or will work for a really big company?'

Uh huh, even more.

How about 'Work or will work for a start-up?'

Oh, that's a pretty good number.

Uh, 'Will go to grad school ?? ?'

Did I miss anybody else? Raise your hands.

OK well I thought that would cover most people.

How about, 'How many of you are Women?'

Yeah.

Alright, alright. How about 'Work or will work for Google?'

We got a couple in the audience too.

Help me out a bit. 'How many of you would consider working for ?? the ?? engineering ?? ?'

OK I think that's wha

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[Anonymous Coward]

Arrr! Reading this speech makes me so mad. First of all, it's not like Google is all that great of a company. Think about it. Have they done anything that Yahoo hasn't already done? Except for some minor differences, no.

In fact, I think Yahoo and some other companies do a lot of these thing much better, like reporting the news for example.

And I am still bitter about not even being able to try out gmail even though I signed up to recieve updates on when I would be able to signup. I just waited and watched everyone else is the whole world get a gmail account when I was more interested in trying it out when it first came out.

And, I am bitter about spending a lot of time solving a computational problem(a Google problem) that was in Linux Journal so that I could email them the answer along with my resume. I never even got a reply from anyone. Why do they advertize all over my school for positions at Google, as if anyone has a chance of being hired, let alone getting a reply when you submit your resume.

So I think Google really sucks and I will never work for them and I hate them with a vengence and I only use Yahoo! search now.

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[michaelredux]

thanks for transcribing this. here are my interpretations for a few places where you put '??' in the text:


You can build totally crazy things [and you can do that cheaply ...]

...what's the lower [bound]

...we had the [honor of having] Marisa Coleman out to Google recently

China is building something like 9 and a half [Manhattan] size cities for the next 15 years...

He also says that. "[...Brand]-USA could use some polishing

...make Google better anyway so its a great [culture].

Re:Textual transcript, anyone?

[Anonymous Coward]

>> ...we had the [honor of having] Marisa Coleman out to Google recently

Should be Mary Sue Coleman

Well...

[Xarius]

Re:Well...

[Anonymous Coward]

Wierd the missed the recent story on Wired that compared Google to Walmart. I wonder why....

Re:Well...

[nametaken]

Well, it was this or the story about the slashdotter who followed Sergey around until he was able to collect a stool sample for disection. Later it was placed on his Google-Shrine. An article was submitted and photos were available, but bandwidth was limited.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[FunkyRat]

Hey thanks! Please send it to funkyrat NOSPAM at gmail.com

Conspiracy

[AndrenidEnder]

Someone's vision for the future next to the story about the time travellers' convention.

Re:Conspiracy

[rewinn]

Hopefully the time-traveller's convention will include a panel on the future.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[LiquidCoooled]

I thought gmail didn't allow public addresses under 6 characters?

Larry Paige's recent activities

[Daniel294]

It seems that Mr. Paige has gone on a philonthropic course lately (not that that's a bad thing). At the FIRST robotics competition in Atlanta, he made a 15 minute long speech with some great messages (although I thought his delivery was sub-par). Among them, he pledged money from www.google.org to FIRST. He is very inspiring. Larry, from FIRST to you, thanks. -Daniel

Re:Larry Paige's recent activities

[Zoekan]

I second that. I only got to watch the FIRST championship over the webcast but I still thought his speech was quite good. At least, the message was good, and I think he did a good job at relating to the students. Besides, anybody who pledges to support FIRST is a cool person in my (somewhat small and insignificant on a global scale) book. ~Allison

Consumption Junction?

[alienfluid]

Hmmm .. at least someone shares my interest in Consumption Junction. For those who are wondering what the heck I'm talking about, check out this guy's blog title.

Re:Consumption Junction?

[wpiman]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamjh/11685336/

Slim pickins at Michigan.

Re:Consumption Junction?

[Anonymous Coward]

They don't look that slim to me

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[papukanghi]

You dumbasss! Is this spam me if you can or what?

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks, keep up the good trolling!

Ex-Pope/Queen of England, now a full-time SCO employee.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

warhawk92@adelphia.net
thanks, mp3 please. its like a podcast

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

innerspin AT gmail.com Cheers!

Re:Google - GoogleGoogleGoogle!

[Anonymous Coward]

mod parent up!

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

hahahahaha..... oh man you crack me up.

obvious troll people.

Re:In other news

[CypherXero]

You blog is on Blogger...which is owned by Google. Looks like Google owns YOU!

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Ninwa]

The name calling was unneccasary, but my response is only: Google's spam filter works quite nicely.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[alienfluid]

alright, send over an mp3 to farhan@yootz.com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[black2d]

Please send to black2d at gmail.com Thank you

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

You mean he really isn't an Ex-Tom's Hardware, Ex-NASA, Ex-O'Reilly, Ex-MIT employee who now works for Google? I find that hard to believe, just look at his spectacular karma!

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[dspasovski]

Troll alert! Troll alert! Put on your mod-parent-troll shields!

+5??? Known Troll

[Anonymous Coward]

C'mon people, look at the poster's history. It's nothing but a string of -1s.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Evangelion]

Apply s/rogers\.com/gmail.com/ to my account's email address.

Thanks!

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

ben.hiltonsmith AT gmail DOT com

much thanks for doing this

Re:In other news

[jb.hl.com]

Heh, I have a GMail account too...doesn't mean I worship everything Google does though, as Slashdot seems to do now. It seriously is becoming a site for Google and Apple fanboys, and very little else. The only reason I'm still here is because I'm thoroughly addicted to this place :)

And of course, Taco/Timothy/Neal etc don't listen to what the users of Slashdot actually want...I'm fairly sure daily Google updates is fairly low on most peoples' list of priorities :)

Re:In other news

[jb.hl.com]

Haha, flamebait...cool.

Don't see many flames, do you?

Page's Take on Business

[Pavan_Gupta]

I couldn't agree with Page more ..

larry page: "I know a lot of you are planning on going to business school, but I don't think you need to go to business schoool"

larry page: "I just read a bookshelf of business books"

From a man worth 7 billion dollars, it sure seems to me like his statement on how to run a business is pretty reputable.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

Right ... you know that Google had to hire a professional CEO a long time ago because Larry and Sergey couldn't hack it by themselves, right? They're smart people, but if they hadn't been the ones to found the company they wouldn't be at the top of the org chart, they would be run-of-the-mill Ph.D. researchers near the bottom.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

just because a successful business man says don't bother going to b-school doesn't mean he's right. it depends very much on what he said in context. if by "don't go, i just ready books," page meant "don't go to b-school to gain business knowledge, because it's better to gain experience," then his advice is probably a good one. if the message you took home is that someone became successful without going to b-school and he said don't bother, so b-school is useless, then that's not a very smart interpretation of his message.

i know it's not quite the same thing, but a lottery-winning millionaire simply recommending "don't bother to take jobs, just buy lottery tickets" and listening to it simply because he/she is wealthy is dumb, don't you think?

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

Uh, Page is NOT Google's CEO. You might want to overcome your blissful ignorance and research whether or not Google's CEO did in fact go to business school.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[mnemonic_]

Interestingly, what Larry Page did emphasize was the fact that their CEO has a PhD in computer science, not his business background.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Concerned Onlooker]

From a man worth 7 billion dollars, it sure seems to me like his statement on how to run a business is pretty reputable.

I doubt that you'd base most of your other decisions based on one data point. Why do it now?

For every successful dropout there are thousands who are very unsuccessful. Too often we point to these sui generis cases and say "see! I don't have to go to school." The drop-out, under-educated successful type happens, but it's not the norm.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

These billionaire drop-outs are successful because they already had a thriving business when they dropped out, not because they dropped out! Some run of the mill nerd is better off staying in school if the alternative is working somewhere for $10/hr. If you see an opportunity, you should take it. That's the message. On the other hand, I know a lot of kids who went back to Stanford with their tails between their legs after the dot-com bust...

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, Schmidt didn't go to b-school, but he did have decades of on-the-job training in a growing industry, like Gates or Jobs. If someone wants to be a dot-com executive, then he makes a hell of a lot more sense to go to Stanford GSB to get their MBA. I wish I was a billionaire, too, but looking at what a billionaire did to get where he is isn't the best course of action for the rest of us.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

People who drop out of school do it because they have other opportunities. That's the key here. It's very unwise to drop out just because you're bored. Real life is much less interesting than school, and being successful takes a LOT of work from anybody who didn't buy a lotto ticket at the 7-Eleven.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Paradise Pete]

Right ... you know that Google had to hire a professional CEO a long time ago

Maybe that was one of the things he read in the books.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[KingJoshi]

They hired a big time CEO because their venture capitalists basically forced it on them. The CEO is obviously worth something, but even he says he had to let them do their thing. They seem like stubborn principled people. Sometimes, that's good.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[thoth_amon]

College doesn't teach you how to make money, it teaches you how to conform, how to fit into the machine. To be a leader, you have to UNlearn a lot of what they teach in college, even the best colleges. With a great college education, you can be a successful part of the machine. You will probably make middle-to-upper-middle wages if your degree is in the sciences or engineering; you will probably become a manager at some point, or if you are especially good, maybe an executive. Unless you learn leadership and independent thinking, you will never be really rich; you will always implement somone else's idea and ultimately you will always be, at most, a well-treated slave.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[CHESTER COPPERPOT]

I dunno if anyone of you guys may of read this but there was a blog entry doing the rounds the last few months how to think like a MBA grad by reading about 30-40 books. The link is here.

From the site:

Seth says that you can get most of the value of an MBA education without forking over the big bucks by reading 30-40 books. I agree.

An MBA may be valuable from a networking standpoint, as Bren points out. The classroom environment and case method can also be a plus, as Diego acknowledges. Points well made, gentlemen.

Both Diego and Seth bring up another point: the MBA is a still a stamp of approval for some careers, like consulting and investment banking. I think that's a damn shame, but I don't run those HR departments. Maybe it's my personality, but I have a hard time working my butt off simply for a "stamp of approval." I think that the primary purpose of pursuing an education is learning something valuable, not adding a line to my resume. (For what that's worth.)

In the context of learning useful knowledge that will make you a more productive and valuable employee, I maintain that you can educate yourself effectively for less than a quarter of the time and money spent in most current MBA programs.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

I know how Schmidt was hired. The VCs had Page and Brin meet with lots of successful people in the Valley, and they all told them that they needed someone with experience. They listened, and they paid Schmidt a billion bucks or so in stock. He's not there just for decoration, he does a lot of shit work that has to get done if a company is going to succeed, and unless one has experience or training, one won't know how to do this shit work.
Every example of a non-MBA at the head of a highly successful tech company either has decades of experience or someone with experience or an MBA working underneath him.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

Sounds like somebody got a thin envelope from Harvard!

Re:Page's Take on Business

[slashdot.org]

From a man worth 7 billion dollars, it sure seems to me like his statement on how to run a business is pretty reputable.

Well, if you are really interested in basing your decisions on what one guy who represents, what?, like 0.0000001% (ROM) of the population has to say, then I'd recommend a certain Bill in Redmond. Honestly though, it doesn't matter much what either one of them says; it's pretty unlikely that it will make you a 7 billion dollar man.

I personally think that the biz-school bashing is kinda cheap, and frankly I thought we were past that.

It's great it all worked out for Page, but (despite popular believe), biz school can be quite useful. I didn't go, but I would recommend it to anyone that's interested.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[drsquare]

Not really, he's only had one successful business, what makes you think it wasn't just luck, having the right business at the right time? He's hardly been 'running' it very long, and he's got bags of cash to play with, which makes it pretty easy.

Give him a company in a struggling industry, with spiralling costs, a shrinking market, and no money in the bank, and see how successful he is.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

>>
larry page: "I just read a bookshelf of business books"

I must be smarter than Larry. I just googled for "Business plan."

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Reservoir Penguin]

There is one advantage tho. Even if you dont succeed after dropping out atleast you wont be like the ones who did get a formal education and has been outsourced while still having 100K+ in student loans.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[16K Ram Pack]

I've met quite a lot of MBAs, and they almost universally fall into the "sharp but useless" school of management. They'll make sure all the ISO9000 documentation is up to date, but few of them are leaders. You learn leadership from life experience.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[akaina]

That's a great analogy except he didn't win any lottery. He simply knew how to perform without sitting in a class room.

In fact Paul Graham tells us that if you look at the top Fortune 500 companies, you won't find a founder with an MBA until you reach number 22, and even after that they're relatively scarce.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, sit in class.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[Anonymous Coward]

Seems to me, he didn't say "learn by experience," he said "learn by reading a bunch of books." I guess you could twist that into whatever interpretation you want, but his statement's pretty clear.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[mwood]

Sometimes? I would say that it's essential at all times. Any number of companies have spiralled down toward mediocrity, and some much further, when the business folks overpowered the people who had the ideas that produced all the money.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[mwood]

It takes two sets of qualities to be a successful founder with staying power. You need to be a person who generates great ideas and is able to follow them through to implementation -- that gives you a product or service which will grow your company. You also need to understand your business *as a business* so that you don't stupid away all the resources you need to support the development of great ideas.

The combination is rare in single individuals. The more usual approach is to bring one set of qualities or the other and hire what you don't have. But the business guys and the idea guys have got to respect each other and work together to preserve and grow the business they have. When either type comes to see the other as nonessential, the company is about to embark on a painful evolution which many similarly-managed companies have not survived.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[KingJoshi]

I didn't say the CEO was worthless. There's no proof that Larry and Sergey couldn't hack it themselves. They wanted to, but they were pressured not to. That's all I was saying. Maybe after Larry's speech, they still believe they could've done without the CEO, we don't know. And we'll never know how it would've turned out without Schmidt.

Re:Page's Take on Business

[mwood]

Y'know, some of us would consider that getting others to do the management and executive jobs for us, so that we can go on making enough money doing work we actually like, is the highest form of success.

And leadership doesn't always come from the top. Some of us "well-treated slaves" are leading in the aspects which matter most to us. When your boss relies on your recommendation, or even just changes his mind based on your input, you're a leader.

Anyone...

[jgold03]

want to write a transcript of the message for us... ...please :)

Re:Anyone...

[Anonymous Coward]

In true geek form...

Use Sphinx-II and speech-to-text it.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[thoughtcriminal87]

theducknamedhuey at gmail.com

Transcript?

[Tirinal]

For those of us unable to listen to auditory files for whatever reason, could someone write up a transcript of some sort?

Many thanks.

Re:In other news

[NanoGator]

"Jesus guys, you may as well change it to "Googledot: Google google Googles. Google google googles." Every single day another story about how absolutely marvellous Google is and how they're going to make the whole Internet better and they're doing it all out of the kindness of their hearts."

It's a pleasant change from "Microsoft does everything wrong" and "here's our 303rd story about how SCO hasn't produced any evidence." stories that perpetually orbited Slashdot.

It's not that I disagree with you, but Slashdot always has a fad to chase. I remember when every week it was headline news that Mozilla incremented the version number.

If only there was a way to block entire topics

[0racle]

If only the Slashdot editors had written some way of blocking stories some people didn't want to see.

Re:If only there was a way to block entire topics

[jb.hl.com]

They did. And then they removed it.

Mod parent DOWN, he's lying.

[cynical kane]

Parent poster has a long history of lying, telling ridiculous stories and otherwise karma whoring. I bet you 100 dollars to 1 donut he doesnt have the file.

Check out, for example, http://slashdot.org/~Amsterdam%20Vallon. Note the 11 "-1 Troll" posts in a row.

Torrent?

[ArbitraryConstant]

If we don't have anyone that can handle mirroring it can we set up a torrent? I don't think gmail will allow > 10 mb files.

Re:Torrent?

[ploss]

Torrent set up here: http://notespace.org/Larry_Page-Graduation_Speech. mp3.torrent

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[FleaPlus]

Indeed. I've had my email on the slashdot front page once or twice, and almost no spam gets through the filter.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

cliffmusicinfo@gmail.com

I was there too (though I've not graduated)

[mnemonic_]

I found it pretty underwhelming. Page is not a great speaker he's a geek. There were several ums and 4-second awkward pauses, unlike the other speeches (by students and others). He fumbled with words at times and it seemed he had barely rehearsed. And the content was nothing fantastic. "Take risks, space flight is cool [cheers from aero majors], my parents met in a coop, how many of you would work for Google if we opened an Ann Arbor office, blah." It was nice, somewhat encouraging but to me, his manner of speaking made the whole thing fall flat. He gave not pearls of wisdom, but offhand comments on fun bits of tech.

Re:I was there too (though I've not graduated)

[Paradise Pete]

Now that you have read the chant, you will meet this little girl. In the middle of the night she will be on your ceiling.

Considering how many people have now read this, she's going to have to get around like Santa Claus if she's going to make it to everyone's ceilings.

Re:I was there too (though I've not graduated)

[gonaddespammed.com]

When you're richer you can give a better speech ;)

Re:I was there too (though I've not graduated)

[Fizzl]

Where's the "-1 WTF?!?"-moderation when you need one?

www.clownpenis.fart

[Anonymous Coward]

snl@clownpenis.fart

thx!

Re:In other news

[Anonymous Coward]

How is it not tech news?

Plus you have a gmail and blogspot account.
What a hippacrit!!

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

yes pls , in ogg. steve at burnitbaby.com

Re:In other news

[CypherXero]

In your user preferences, you can choose which topics you don't want to see on the front page. You can block Google stories on the front page alltogether if you want.

Please!

[StarKruzr]

That would be awesome. It looks like the mp3 copies have already been slashdotted and are unavailable.

jtd@starNOSPAMkruzr.com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[GryphonKlaw]

You work with Larry Page but have a Yahoo! address? THAT'S TREASON, MAN!!

Re:In other news

[jb.hl.com]

No. You can't. If you look in your user prefs, you'll notice that that option has miraculously disappeared. you can now only block by section.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[iMacorIBM]

Great; I'll join the ranks and prefer ogg anyways. Thanks in advance.

Hit me at .ian. /AT/ .ianbmacdonald.com.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[ewithrow]

weasel@almostsmart.com thanks.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Adam Heath]

What a useless use of even more bandwidth. Instead of trolling for emails, and/or letting other people insert their own email, so spammers can get it, it would be much more useful for everyone if a torrent was posted.

BitTorrent was designed for this sort of thing. Email was not.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

i've got a fancy ass email at google. i'm rtfminc. send it please. me too! me too!

Wall Street will get them

[Anonymous Coward]

He thinks that he owns it. The truth is that Wall Street has root privaleges already.

Re:In other news

[jb.hl.com]

Heh, I didn't say I don't like Google, I said I'm sick about hearing about how wonderful Google is all the fucking time...

Also, learn to spell.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[thenetbox]

khurrum1@gmail.com thank you :)

Re:ENOUGH GOOGLE ALREADY

[Anonymous Coward]

So? Some people think cucumbers taste better pickled.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Obiwan Kenobi]

eerwin AT gmail dizzot com

Thanks! :)

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Dolly_Llama]

WTF?

28 Replies and they're all AOL metoo?

If Slashdot were to look down right now, she would see a shark just under her waterskis.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Johnno74]

HAHAA!!

Normally I hate trolls, but thats the best trollage I've ever seen. Nice one, had me going until I saw your posting history.

Re:In other news

[jb.hl.com]

Thank you for your kind comments regarding my post. Would you care to elaborate as to what was wrong with it?

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

Direct link:

http://www38.pair.com/adamjh/blogfiles/Larry_Page- Graduation_Speech.mp3

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Haszak]

Ian.C.Rae@gmail.com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Lost Found]

chase dot venters at gmail dot com. Thanks!

Google more now.

[Saeed al-Sahaf]

Listen, you heretic, your day of reckoning will come. Don't you know thou art a subject of the divine, created in the image of The Google, by The Google, for The Google? Let us be thankful we have Google. Google more. Google more now. Google. And be happy. Remember, you have nowhere to go. Google is here to protect you.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

junkkyy@gmail.com please :)

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

klesser@gmail.com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[NoGuffCheck]

no bacon at gmail shizd0t com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

Good luck getting to everyone. Thanks for doing this!

gadgetman726@yahoo.com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[thedustbustr]

dust3r~gmail;com

you are the man, thank you

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Xierox]

xierox GO'WAYSPAMMERS AT gmail dot-com

Thanks, man.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

I want this mp3 so bad I can't wait..!.Can you please gmail it to me at sameeraonline?.

Thanks,
Sameera

DUPE!

[Anonymous Coward]

Its not slashdots fault this time!

Its his fault, ha gave the EXACT SAME SPEECH at the first robotics nationals in georgia

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

vogelz at gmail please if you would

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Begossi]

begossi at gmail dot com thx a lot AV!

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[cynix.org]

I thought "bobNOSPAM" is 9 characters? :D

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[oneeyedelf1]

I dont get the big hype of vorbis files that have been transcoded from mp3, quality doesnt magically appear.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

california1@gmail.com

Thanks

Can someone post a torrent?

[Xierox]

Hey, can someone who's downloaded the file post a torrent of the file for those of us who don't have it yet? - Xierox

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[pydron]

pydronNOSPAM@charter[[[.]]]net

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[laemas]

jacob_briggs@paradise.net.nz

Thanks heaps :)

Google is changing things

[Infonaut]

We get it. Google is teh roxx0r. Move on. Please.

Google is one of the few market-changing forces in computer tech these days. There's a reason you read a lot about Google, Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo, AMD, Intel, etc. on Slashdot. It's because these are the companies that are changing the way other companies do business, and in turn how we all work and play.

Because you didn't include any sort of solution to what you see as an overabundance of stories about Google, I'm curious: What specific types of stories would you like to see?

Re:Google is changing things

[green pizza]

Because you didn't include any sort of solution to what you see as an overabundance of stories about Google, I'm curious: What specific types of stories would you like to see?
Linux. GNOME. Overclocking. Water-cooling.

Re:Google is changing things

[Infonaut]

Linux. GNOME. Overclocking. Water-cooling.

I'm interested in the first two, but not the last two. That's the nature of Slashdot, I suppose. The popular stuff makes the page, and the unpopular stuff doesn't show up as often. But for my part I'll keep my eyes peeled for Linux and Gnome stories (and not just Linux stories about Linus either) to submit.

Re:Google is changing things

[drsquare]

I really don't see how what Google employees eat for dinner has anything to do with market-changing forces, or how companies do business, or how we all work and play. There's news, and there's blatant drooling fanboyism.

I'd like to see more stories on science and technology, and less on piracy-excusing, less on Sco, less on the latest Firefox releases. Yeah Firefox is good, but we don't need to hear about it every fucking day. I'm sure the slashdot editors think that if we don't hear about Firefox/Google every other day we'll go back to using IE/MSN search or something.

Either that or they're just after a job at google. Sorry lads but I think they have enough talent so they don't need some illiterate, drooling, technically-incompetent fanboys working ofr them. You can't even do HTML/CSS properly, what makes you think Google would want you?

Re:Google is changing things

[McDutchie]

You can't even do HTML/CSS properly, what makes you think Google would want you?

Because Google can't do HTML/CSS properly either, maybe? They're quite the match, when it comes to that.

Re:Google is changing things

[northcat]

I fucking hate how people think science and "technology" is just a business and call it a "market". Another reason to shut all Americans' mouths with superglue.

Re:Google is changing things

[Infonaut]

I fucking hate how people think science and "technology" is just a business and call it a "market".

Actually my point was not that business dictates all things, but that those who lead in the technology business tend to be the ones who get all of the press. Like it or not, economics exists, and it is a huge force in all our lives. Technology isn't just formed in a bubble outside of market forces.

Another reason to shut all Americans' mouths with superglue.

It might be handier to superglue our fingers together, so we can't type.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Rupan]

Please send me the audio here:
akihana at gmail dot com
TIA
Mike

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks so much!

larryspeech (at....) tsection dot com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[koonz]

please send to germio at gmail dot com. thanks for the effort!

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

excalibrax @ gmail . com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

i would appreciate this,

gregday [at] ecsis [dot] net

1999 called...

[Anonymous Coward]

They want their dot-com stupidity back...

He lucked into that stuff, he didn't manage his way there as a business person. At best, he had a great idea. A business degree will not help you come up with a great idea.

Now, on the other hand, all you business school types can go to hell too. This world doesn't need more business-types. It needs more people coming up with ideas with worthy of making a business from. You business types with your quick money ideas created the dot-com disaster, and you'll bring it back again I'm sure.

Running a good business isn't about marketing your stock.

Re:1999 called...

[Anonymous Coward]

You should watch startup.com. It's a good movie, and it shows why having even an inexperienced MBA is necessary for survival if the rest of the people on the team are just engineers.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[terpri]

bpt NO at SPAM tunes dot org

Thanks!

Re:What, no American Fascism?

[Anonymous Coward]

Show some balls!

Ok -- you're boring and incapable of posting on-topic. And, judging by your slashdot user id, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Anything we haven't covered?

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

billg AT microsoft.com

I LOVE LARRY!!!! ^o^ XD

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[jtravis]

e-mail jtrav03 at gmail dot com. Thanks.

I'm mirroring the mp3

[DrHanser]

Here

Please don't link to the file directly. Gracias.

Re:I'm mirroring the mp3

[sexecutioner]

Go all you want. Mirror

Re:I'm mirroring the mp3

[sexecutioner]

If the MP3 gets clogged then I'll remove it, but go for the torrent at the link further down, or here.

Re:I'm mirroring the mp3

[sexecutioner]

Er, OK, I'm stupid.

http://ash.anu.edu.au/tmp/larry_page.mp3.torrent

Ohh! What a brazen reckloose!

[PocketPick]

Dropping out of his PH.D? *GASP*! What with only a pathetic Masters, how could he have made it?

Sarcasm aside, his leaving the academic world doesn't supprise me. Given that a PH.D won't expand practical knowledge of Computer Science as a Bachelors and Masters would, I would of done the same thing. He didn't take a chance, he just came to his senses.

Re:Ohh! What a brazen reckloose!

[whh3]

Indeed. I didn't mean it like that. I was trying merely trying to point out that he had completed college. I emphasized the way I did only to make the distinction more complete. Sorry to have offended.

Re:Ohh! What a brazen reckloose!

[Stween]

His Ph.D. involved information retrieval technology, and in particular, was what gave birth to Google. If quitting to expand his practical knowledge of CS was his intention, why has he not moved on from the Google project?

Re:Ohh! What a brazen reckloose!

[NotBorg]

I'm reminded of something my brother once said about getting a degree. He said that there are two types of people with degrees. Those who can use the degree do. Those that can't, teach. He further went on to say that most of his instructors were genuinely talented at analyzing algorithms, critiquing papers, or whatever but at the same time lacked creativity. They could critique one's creation, but in general couldn't create one of their own. I believe the truth to be some what greyer, but it's still an interesting out take of his x years at school.

Re:Ohh! What a brazen reckloose!

[Anonymous Coward]

While I agree with your main premise, I think you have forgotten what the difference between a MS and PhD is(at least for those schools that require a dissertation for the Masters). A PhD, by definition, requires that you make a useful and original contribution to the general knowledge of the field. A Masters is essentially a certificate acknowledging that you can independently run a research project.

Many Masters are original research and there are additional hoops that you have to jump through with a PhD, but at the core of it, this is it.

Re:Ohh! What a brazen reckloose!

[Anonymous Coward]

You probably of done even sooner than him, congrats.

Re:Ohh! What a brazen reckloose!

[Taco John]

Because the Google project has moved on and grown so far, and so fast that it probably gives him plenty of fulfillment to work on just it.

MEEE TOOOOO

[Anonymous Coward]

This is funny as hell, check Mr. Vallon's posting history, people! You are all going to get signed up for spam or worse!

Files back online...

[adamjh]

mp3 and wav files moved to University webspace -- should be able to withstand the /.ing. cheers.

Has AOL replaced it's start page with /. ?

[Anonymous Coward]

Seriously, WTF is with all these Me TOO! posts?

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[chesterjosiah]

chester.millisock@houghton.edu

Re:Files back online... (with torrent)

[ploss]

MOD PARENT UP, works great. Also, set up a torrent
here (if you're into that stuff):

http://notespace.org/Larry_Page-Graduation_Speech. mp3.torrent

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[alfrin]

I would like the file in mp3 please alfrin at gmail . com

The Google and the future from another one

[hermank]

I did not listen to the speech. However, I found that the EPIC 2014 has more insight on the google and the future.
http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/

For those who dont want to see the flash movie, here goes the text: (some content is omitted near the end, so I would recommend to see the flash movie)

* * * *

In 1989, Tim Berners-Lee, a computer scientist at the CERN particle physics laboratory in Switzerland, invents the World Wide Web.

1994 sees the founding of Amazon.com. Its young creator dreams of a store that sells everything. Amazon's model, which would come to set the standard for Internet sales, is built on automated personalized recommendations - a store that can make suggestions.

In 1998, two Stanford programmers create Google. Their algorithm echoes the language of Amazon, it treats links as recommendations, and from that foundation powers the world's most effective search engine.

In 1999, TiVo transforms television by unshackling it from the constraints of time - and commercials. Almost no one who tries it ever goes back.

That year, a dot-com start-up named Pyra Labs unveils Blogger, a personal publishing tool.

Friendster launches in 2002 and hundreds of thousands of young people rush to populate it with an incredibly detailed map of their lives, their interests and their social networks. Also in 2002, Google launches GoogleNews, a news portal. News organizations cry foul. GoogleNews is edited entirely by computers.

In 2003, Google buys Blogger. Google's plans are a mystery, but their interest in Blogger is not unreasonable.

2003 is the Year of the Blog.

2004 would be remembered as the year that everything began.

Reason Magazine sends subscribers an issue with a satellite photo of their houses on the cover and information custom-tailored to each subscriber inside.

Sony and Philips unveil the world's first mass-produced electronic paper.

Google unveils GMail, with a gigabyte of free space for every user.

Microsoft unveils Newsbot, a social news filter.

Amazon unveils A9, a search engine built on Google's technology that also incorporates Amazon's trademark recommendations.

And then, Google goes public.

Awash in new capital, the company makes a major acquisition. Google buys TiVo.

2005 - In response to Google's recent moves, Microsoft buys Friendster.

2006 - Google combines all of its services - TiVo, Blogger, GMail, GoogleNews and all of its searches into the Google Grid, a universal platform that provides a functionally limitless amount of storage space and bandwidth to store and share media of all kinds. Always online, accessible from anywhere. Each user selects her own level of privacy. She can store her content securely on the Google Grid, or publish it for all to see. It has never been easier for anyone, everyone to create as well as consume media.

2007 - Microsoft responds to Google's mounting challenge with Newsbotster, a social news network and participatory journalism platform. Newsbotster ranks and sorts news, based on what each user's friends and colleagues are reading and viewing and it allows everyone to comment on what they see.

Sony's ePaper is cheaper than real paper this year. It's the medium of choice for Newsbotster.

2008 sees the alliance that will challenge Microsoft's ambitions. Google and Amazon join forces to form Googlezon. Google supplies the Google Grid and unparalled search technology. Amazon supplies the social recommendation engine and its huge commercial infrastructure. Together, they use their detailed knowledge of every user's social network, demographics, consumption habits and interests to provide total customization of content - and advertising.

The News Wars of 2010 are notable for the fact that no actual news organizations take part.

Googlezon finally checkmates Microsof

Re:The Google and the future from another one

[sabinm]

Monday, Mar 10, 2014, Skynet becomes aware.

Re:The Google and the future from another one

[sneakyrussiian]

2023 - Longhorn finally released. Still uses Windows XP style file searching.

Re:The Google and the future from another one

[LoveTheIRS]

Yeah, That's exactly how it sounds.

Re:The Google and the future from another one

[attemptedgoalie]

2074, Duke Nukem Forever is released, as a joke by a group of children who read about vaporware in their history books.

Oh, come on, you knew that was coming. :-)

Re:The Google and the future from another one

[Jesus IS the Devil]

Another dumb prediction. Every day some "guru" has a new one.

Re:The Google and the future from another one

[AussieVamp2]

What year for Googlent Blue staple foodstuff and Googlewear biodegradeable disposable clothing? (complete with one of those cute season variable Google logos)?

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[psiph]

nothingisreal at gmail dot com -thanks

Wow

[mgbaron]

That reminds me exactly how much I hate graduation speeches...

Torrent

[Anonymous Coward]

It seems someone has done as you asked. See here for a torrent of the mp3.

Credit where credit is due: I got the torrent link from this comment by ploss.

[posting anon. to avoid the karma whore stigma]

MOD PARENT UP

[ArbitraryConstant]

Excellent. I shall seed overnight at least.

Re:In other news

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't see many flames, do you?

Well ya know, that's the purpose of modding it down. Less people see it, less flames baited.

We missed google

[Anonymous Coward]

And I was wondering why didnt we have google story since morning....

Now I can rest in my grave peacefully

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[unknown_goth]

a first post worth something. if it wasn't for posting i would mod him up. please people show him some love. anywho thanks a lot man, i'll take a copy ala mp3 since ogg still doesn't work in iTunes. unknown(dot)root(at)gmail(dot)com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[GileadGreene]

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

Especially when slashdotters are involved...

Phone?

[klausner]

What kind of phone has that kind of recording capacity?

Re:Phone?

[Blurredplacebo]

any one where you can stick a memory card in

Re:Phone?

[adamjh]

This kind:

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/pda/t-mobile-m da-iii.html

:-)

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE..and more

[fideli]

I think you just asked for a LOT more than an mp3.

Pagerank and nothing more

[Ars-Fartsica]

I give Page and Brin kudos for pagerank, but frankly I don't think he knows anything about space travel and even less about solving world hunger, although if he were to start, he could sign over all his shares in GOOG to a feed-the-children charity, which I doubt he will do (talk's cheap, Larry).

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[claygate]

So Larry signs his shares over and we feed the starving for 10 maybe 15 years. When the money runs out, the starving children who are now adults will not have the infrastructure to feed themselves because money was spent feeding them. Instead of looking for short term answers think of the long term independence of the poor countries; creating industry, schooling and a stable, corruption free government. Do you have the answers? (Talk is cheap, Ars-Fartsica)

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[Ars-Fartsica]

I'm not the one pontificating about world hunger to fawning morons. In any case your entire post is a non-sequiter - where did I say his money should not go to sustainable development. That said, I applaud your shabby attempt to appear intelligent....keep trying.

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[claygate]

If you were to take his money to feed the poor then there wouldn't be money to go to sustainable development. Fun times on slashdot. I need to post more than 5 times a year.

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[Anonymous Coward]

industry yes. schooling yes. a stable, corruption free government. stable not too hard, but I'd like it if non poor countries could get a corruption free government, even if it were just for a year or two.

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[drsquare]

So why doesn't he give all his money towards sustainable development?

It seems all these rich people go on and on about charity, but their charity ends long before the point where it would threaten their massive wealth and luxurious lifestyles. People talk about how much money Bill Gates has given to charity, but he still lives in a massive fucking house, and has 600 yachts. It's easy to be charitable when it doesn't affect your lifestyle.

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[JaredOfEuropa]

It's easy to be charitable when it doesn't affect your lifestyle.

Does that make it any less charitable? (Especially to the people on the receiving end). Or is charity only really charity when it hurts the giver?

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[JaredOfEuropa]

I give Page and Brin kudos for pagerank

Give them kudos for turning it into a popular search engine and succesfull business as well. Think of it: many of us are able to come up with some brilliant bits of coding or clever ideas for on-line services. It's just a few people that have the guts and the business sense to turn their inventions into a thriving company.

However, I agree with you that people give far too much weight to his opinion on world problems. Well, that happens to many celebrities, including those who you would not expect to be particularly clever, but just wrote a few songs people seem to like, or are able to punt a ball into a net strung between two posts.

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[drsquare]

Yeah pretty much, otherwise it's just PR. Being rich doesn't make you a better person, just a richer person. I'm not a religious person, but I remember this story in the bible of this rich man donating money to a church, and pouring a load of money into the pot, although it was a mere fraction of his wealth. Then this poor woman came and put in a single coin, but it was the only coin she had, so apparently it was more charitable.

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[northcat]

Heh, I never understood why Americans have this ideas about "visionaries" and how these visionaries know everything and can solve all problems and shit. And these visionaries are almost always rich business people or sometimes a politician/bearucrat. Over here in India, we value people only for what they know or what they're actually capable of doing. Although this visionary shit is catching up among some business people with shit loads of money (I guess the reason for this not existing earlier was "underdevelopment"), but people aren't valuing it that much. We do have a "visionary" president who used to be a nuclear scientist, but he just sticks making comments about science, which he is fairly authorised to do. (And of course, he visits schools and talks with children, making the media feel all warm and fuzzy inside.)

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[Tristor]

Exactly. It has less to do with *how much* you give, and more to do with how much you *give up*. It is less to do with the amount, and more to do with the feeling and meaning behind it. Following that parable in the Bible, the woman gave all she had, 100%, and didn't feel any less for it. The man on the other hand gave only a fraction of his sum total (his being), and did so with the sole intention of *looking* good, but not out of the mindset of *doing* good. It is one of those questions of intent, that have nothing to do with the act in and of itself, but rather the intent and reasoning, if any, behind the act. True charity is both a philisophical and a spiritual thing, and is a rarity on this world. I see more true charity among people who give their skills, their livelihood, and their very existence to the things they love for the benefit of all than somebody who would give up a large fraction of their massive wealth to some foundation with their name all over it. Think of it this way, if you were to be truly charitable, would you throw money at something big and grand with your name plasted on it, or make an anonymous donation of monetary or temporal value to some organization with a dire need and a good goal? In this example, Bill Gates is all well and good to throw money at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, but he is doing it more in the spirit of good PR than anything else. He makes more money off people believing that he gives a rat's ass about the rest of the planet than he would off squirreling everything away. On the other hand, some random person who takes the time out of their life to use the skills they worked very hard to earn to benefit everybody, such as in the case of an open source project, and expects little to no credit in return. Well, that is truly charitable. This is also a part of the reason that OSS takes off like it does. People feel a deep connection to those in the OSS community, because as they give of themselves, they establish bonds with all of those who use that labor of love they worked on. On the other hand, when you are dealing with a huge corporation and it's leader who throws money at some foundation with a grand name and an opaque surface where the true purpose isn't known, well the feelings are completely different.

Re:Pagerank and nothing more

[hyperventilate]

Well, they did donate 1% of GOOG shares to a charity, http://google.org/ , in the form of a foundation. What furthur foundations and charities will be funded by a that is TBD. But 1% of the market cap of Google is a lot. I should tell you exactly how much but I would rather leave the task of dividing by 100 to the reader.

It was all in the IPO paperwork, in case you wererent paying attention.

1% of GOOG is a lot more than donating 1% of their personal stock, by the way.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Fookin]

fookin AT gmail DOT com Thanks!

Re:In other news

[qualico]

*bangs head on desk at another fucking Google cocksucking story on Slashdot*

lol!

I'm doing that now with every web page I see that has been infected by Google Ads.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[SeventyBang]

I'd like one, please.

Re:In other news

[zulux]

It seriously is becoming a site for Google and Apple fanboys

I'm tired of it too -- where's the site for fans of MSN and Emachines?

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[anadem]

thanks -- please add me (as anadem@gmail.com) to your ogg sending

Un-inspirational, bordering on un-listenable

[Anonymous Coward]

Damn, this was not a good speech. it was inspirational in the sense that I could have given a better one!

The whole first half is "I made billions of dollars, it's really pretty easy, in fact all us silicon valley types are just waiting to give it all away... we just can't find enough smart people!"

And a direct quote:

"The best way to change the world is to be in a position of power."

Wow, thanks Larry.

I hope whoever gives the graduation address in June (who the hell graduates in April, BTW?) at UCSC will be a much better speaker.

Yes google is old news

[Anonymous Coward]

I know isn't it really annoying how everyone loves google so much, I mean I use it as my search engine but the other stuff i do not really like. Google maps is good but their directions and time for driving is not as good as Yahoo.

Can we find some other great company now?

Re:In other news

[iggymanz]

wow, you have a lot of nerve sitting there with your Googleportal hooked to the GoogleNet trashing Google like that

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

Lol, mod parent up please.

Re:In other news

[Anonymous Coward]

100% Agreed on the Google/Apple point. This isn't about technology, it's about a bunch of technophile sheep looking for the next technophile prophet/idol/whatever. Pretty lame if you ask me.

Re:In other news

[Anonymous Coward]

*bangs head on desk at another fucking Google cocksucking story on Slashdot*

Al Swearengen, is that you?

Indeed, diplomas are for losers

[Anonymous Coward]

As Ellison said to grads

slim pickins at michigan.

[s/nemisis]

yeah i just graduated from EE, heard the speech, and i can honestaly say... you are right. there are slim pickins at michigan. but there is the rare polished stone amongst the coal.

gta

Re:In other news

[SA Stevens]

And I can remember when it was 'They are close to having a press release ready at Transmeta.'

Comes around, goes around, etc.

The 80's

[Anonymous Coward]

Larry's thoughts on ... curing world hunger,

Probably a different Larry Page but I was friends with a Lawrence Page in something like the 5th grade in Ann Arbor. He would get a ride to school with one of the school administrators and he complained that she was always playing "We Are The World" on the way to school. I don't know how much he cared about the African famine back then but it would be funny if he's now interested in world hunger.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

Ouch..i wouldn't want to be your spam filter next week.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

Ouch...I would hate to be your spam filter next week.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

Ouch..I would hate to be your spam filter next week.

Sounds like

[rednoserudolph]

ranger, army, beau, etc...

What the hell happened to this topic?

[ShyGuy91284]

I was reading the comments like usual, and then they all went off-topic about oil, and may blah blah, email for file crap? Slashdot has hit a new low....

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

It absolutely boggles my mind, really, that people can be THIS stupid. This post is like a bug zapper, and the Slashdotters are the flies...

heh..and you though that was it...

[Nexcet]

These guys knew before they dropped out, they had a chance. They always done, ones that have done this. Given by choice of gift.

c'mon really....

[aybiss]

This is my first post, but for a supposed 'geek' site I'm surprised how many people were willing to give their email addresses away. And did you all think at all about the readability of the thread when you filled the discussion with free private details? Honestly... BTW this site _does_ suck google's d*ck a lot.

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd hate to say 100000 times that he's a troll. Do you have to keep saying this?

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[arnorhs]

arnorhs@gmail.com

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[aim2future]

I would very much like a copy of Larry's speech. ogg is fine!
Thanx beforehand!

Re:EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THE FILE

[Anonymous Coward]

And to think that a few days ago slashdot thought the new mark for h4axx0rz stupidity was set for good.
And many a slashdotter had a hard time believeing it was even possible to be *that* stupid.

Maybe it's because I'm not native but...

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm not really sure since there is no image, but from the sound it seems as though he is talking to a megaphone in a small indoor swimming pool with prerecorded laughter stolen from a Friends episode. Anyone care to transcribe?

Re:In other news

[jb.hl.com]

Right here. ;)

don't you feel stupid...

[Anonymous Coward]

So, the guy said 'email me if you want the file' and left his email address. So....why is everyone and their mother posting their email addy here?

morons.

One Name....:

[euxle]

Peter Drucker

MSN/Emachines Site Unavailable! :(

[solomonrex]

It's "/.++ ", but you can't log in right now, it's being virusscanned and then rebooted. They tout 5 9's availability: .99999% available!

Re:In other news

[Anonymous Coward]

Google blows. And they are evil too.

Hmm

[magnus_1986]

See how rich those poor little shoe-mending lads are in third world countries, they would love to high school in your place. You should be thankful for what you have

fusion

[LordMyren]

i cried when i read aneutronic fusion is unworkable.

goes to show, no magic bullets.

Re:fusion

[ArbitraryConstant]

Well the fuel for D-T fusion is plentiful, and the radioactives left behind are short lived compared to fission. It'll be a better solution when it becomes economical.

It's just that I'm not sure anyone around today will live to see it become economical. It's generations away.

Many thanks!

[he-sk]

(mod parent up)

Artificial Intelligence is Google's Ultimate Goal

[michaelredux]

an especially interesting quote from the end of the speech:

"...Our mission at google is really to build the ultimate search engine. That means that it would understand everything in the world. It would understand exactly what you wanted when you typed the query, and it would give you that, exactly. In computer science they like to call that 'artificial intelligence'. You could type any query into Google, and it would always give you the right answer. It would be smart, and so obviously that is not the easiest thing in the world do to, but as we get closer and closer to that we have little improvements in quality, and we make Google better and better anyway..."

there was a lot more, but that was the punchline. google's motto is "do no evil", and their mission is to make all of the information in the world easily accessable. that's pretty cool. they have always wanted to digitize existing libraries of books, but it has taken ten years to convince people it was possible. he also talked about nanotechnology, and encouraged the idea of ending world poverty. google devotes 70 percent of their resources to the search engine, 20 percent to related technologies, and 10 percent to other unrelated projects. current revenues are over one billion dollars per quarter, so they are spending over a million dollars a day on projects completely un-related to search, in a culture the encourages taking risks and having a healthy disregard for the impossible. it boggles the mind what the future may bring forth from google.

regards,
michael.

transcript is here

[michaelredux]

full transcript is posted here
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=148012&cid=124 11005

E-mail

[jtravis]

Please e-mail jtrav03@gmail.com

A few corrections to the transcript

[saha]

Thanks for placing the transcript online. Its easier to follow than the audio recording.

I remember using Zaptor?
I believe the program Larry Page was referring to is Zephyr messing service. People could use use zlocate and ytalk to find and talk to their fellow students logged onto the unix mostly Sun and HP workstations in those days at Michigan.

Marisa Coleman
President of the University of Michigan is Mary Sue Coleman.

Dean director
This confuses many people, so its understandable. The College of Engineering's dean is Steve Director leaving this summer '05. So his name is Director, not director as a position.