Your argument only works if before I built said building, such rules were already in place, and I knew about them in advance of starting construction, as Walt Disney and company did before creating the Mickey phenomenon.
These guys want the rules changed every time the game doesn't go their way.
It was kind of funny actually, having read the trilogy, and sat through 2h and 20m of movie, when it ended, I was like "That's it??? That can't be it... they have to destroy the ring... they can't end it.... doh!"
Totally forgot it was a trilogy for a second there. It's actually a credit to the director for being able to generate such involvement in the movie that I'd suffer another 6 hours to see it finished!:-)
Right, but with research and what *I* consider science, the concrete results might not lead to saleable product.
The job of science isn't to make products. It's to come up with the shit that makes products POSSIBLE. Private industry can then use the science that someone (taxpayers) funded to make product that benefits us.
Our failure to invest in space sciences will allow China, Japan and India to surpass us. Which is all well and good. Maybe it's time to let someone else be king of the space-hill.
Hehehe... at least the Linux users can continue to write. Emacs, vi and pico work perfectly fine without X. But those pesky Windows users are busy finding their rescue disks...
You know, I REALLY wouldn't dislike NT/2000/XP so much if it had a really robust command line/non-GUI mode.
Now, I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but the Iraqi embargo is a UN, not a US embargo. Cuba on the other hand, I concede is a US monstrosity (as I think embargoes are in general). But stop blaming the US for every embargo and every kid who's dead because of one.
You live in any UN member state, you TOO are responsible for dead children.
Really? Not to sound like a troll, and not having read the last two books yet, I don't recall a SINGLE point where Gandalf actually killed anyone.
Fought yes. Killed? Perhaps it was the goblins in the caves of Moria? Do you count the trolls in "The Hobbit"?
I mean, I always considered Gandalf to be the epitome of Neutral Good... Went out of his way to do the right thing, but never tipped the scales in favor of good or evil either way...
I challenge you to name a single one of the other astronauts who died aboard Challenger, without looking it up at http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/chron/sts51-l.h tm. And Christa McAuliffe is not an answer.:-)
I know I couldn't.
So, on another note, anyone know how many people it takes to actually FLY the shuttle? 2? pilot and co-pilot?
Ok, so let's use an example. Gasoline. The government doesn't use some special brand of gasoline in their weapons of war (unless you call diesel special). No, they use relatively common fuels that 1) are cheap 2) are the same from every pump that dispenses said fuel, and not just from say, Shell's pumps.
If we were to demand the same of our governments information, we'd want all documents in XML, with our imagines in TIFF or PNG or GIF or something. As opposed to all documents being patent restricted.GIF's and Microsoft Office.DOCs and.XLSs.
I could care less what application they use to create those documents. As long as the files are open, I'm happy. Because say I want to use those images in a tiny little mapping computer. I surely don't want to embed WindowsXP in every single one I sell. No, I want to author my own lightweight application that uses the same data that you can with Adobe Photoshop at home...
Now you're positing a straw man. We're not discussing access to information. We're discussing access to information to the lowest common denominator. When talking about computer information systems, there's a blatant assumption that you have a computer.
And for those who don't, there's the library down the street. Which is still grounds for making sure you have open standards for information dissemination.
There would be people who would abuse the system. But a majority of the people would get bored. Quickly.
Jury-duty like requirements for things like infrastructure repair, roads, sewer, power, food, etc would work to give people in mentally stressful jobs somewhere to let themselves recuperate, give everyone a bit of exercise, etc.
In 3 months if my lazy ass roommate is still not picking up his share, a whole boatload of us are gonna open up a can of whoop-ass on him...
Collective civilizations won't work as long as there are people who need to reinforce a power hierarchy. As long as Alpha-male syndrome exists, it'll never happen.
Once upon a time I wrote a MAPI Message Store Provider for Outlook. Never finished it, but was getting damn close. At one point I could present messages from our proprietary T&E management app via CORBA to Outlook, and read my task lists in Outlook.
So it's not impossible. Perhaps a simple SOAP/XML-RPC protocol for an open source server to make it easy to build web-apps on top of, coupled with a MAPI Store Provider, and the problem is solved.
Hell, I'll volunteer the VOLUMES of knowledge and time I spent on this (3 years ago, so my NDA's no longer apply;-) ) to build the MSP...
chris.mapimsp@ckaminski.com for those who might like to take on such a project. Or how about this, anyone got a good calendaring system that I can just interface with?
Or a calendaring system coupled with an IMAP mail server would make it relatively easy to build mail functionality into the system without having to go to the integration levels that MS did with Exchange.
I'm sorry, but if I don't have lynx handy, I'm not going to waste my time picking through HTML tags (considering the SHIT that most HTML mailers produce..). I have better things to do with my time than find the 5 sentences of important shit you have to say in 20K of HTML.
It's not a hate of HTML. I *LOVE* HTML, if you read my post, I explained that profusely. However, in my world:
1. I use multiple types of mailers depending on where I am, and what I'm doing, and how fast my VPN pipe is. (Including webmail, pine, and Outlook).
2. To be honest, I never really thought of such an addition to my mailcap file. Thanks for the tip. Hmm... HTML mail everywhere... unless there's no lynx, but then there's probably no pine either...
Your argument has absolutely NOTHING to do with his point.
His point: By using non-standard or proprietary (same thing, right) tools, you limit the size of your audience, and overly complicate delivery of information.
Creating Word documents to explain HR benefits is pointless when you can just create an HTML that everyone can read. Nevermind the famous.DOC version problems between Office 95, Office 97, Office 2000, and OfficeXP. Just use HTML. Standard HTML 3.0 works in EVERY compliant browser.
A better analogy is say, plugging your house into the power grid. 80hz 135v 3phase may be well suited to the devices in YOUR house... but isn't it just better to use the standardized power supply given you by the utility company?.DOC isn't a standard. RTF is much more of a standard. HTML is even better (although it has it's limitations)..TXT is even better.
FWIW: I will read HTML mail if I have a mailer that supports it (outlook, netscape, outlook express). If I'm using Pine that day, I will automatically delete the HTML mail, I don't care who it's from.
I will reject EVERY office document that comes into my mailbox, unless it's in RTF or HTML. I'll send a polite email back to the author explaining why. I won't open power point documents, because I don't install powerpoint. Excel is a useful tool, but I prefer all my data in.CSV format.
I've lost enough documents to obsolescence over the years, I'm sticking with tried and try 7bit (sometimes 8bit) ASCII...;-)
Once upon a time, nothing Intel EVER made could touch the likes of an HP/UX or Sparc or Alpha or SGI...
When I was working for a company doing high-end CAD work in the early-mid 90's, if I wanted my testing to finish overnight, the only machines it'd have a reasonable chance of finishing were the SGI's and the Alphas. Followed closely by the Suns and IBMS, then the HPs, and until the Pentium Pro came out, Intel was always dead last (except for those poor hitachis and data general machines)...
Needless to say, 6 years ago, it was a wise decision in many cases to spent $20-30K a seat on a UNIX development system.
Sorry...:) Didn't see your retraction before I finished my previous response. My sources were about as authoritative as cheezedawg's were, since neither his, nor my own came from a U.S. Goverment Law repository.
By your logic, playing the game of battleship involves cheating.
Say I have the first move in Battleship. I score a hit. Based on my knowledge of the rules of the game, I can make an assumption that there is another part of the ship in one of 4 other squares.
Your logic would demand that I NOT take advantage of that knowledge and randomly pick another space on the board to fire at.
And then, when there's only 10 free spots left on the board, and only 2 possible places a 2 slot ship could fit, your logic would have me not take advantage of the knowledge of WHAT HAS COME BEFORE.
As an analogy it's as close as I can come up with in my dazed caffeine stupor.
As others have already intelligently stated, blackjack is a public game, every card is displayed for both the house and every other player on the board. Just because I happen to be keeping track of the aces doesn't mean I'm cheating. If I'm doing it with a computer or video camera, or marking cards, then yes, I'm cheating.
But this doesn't really matter, because you are not willing to listen, you aren't willing to face the fact that counting cards is not against the law, and that casinos have little recourse against your counting cards (mentally) except asking you to leave.
I attempted to find a statute in the Nevada state law library online, but could not in the 15 minutes I allotted for a rebuttal to you. I suggest if you want to continue in these veins that you PROVE your assumption. Several magazine and news articles:
But AHA!! A case review of a pair of individuals caught card-counting, and the only PENALTY was one of them spent a night in jail because he refused to identify himself to peace officers:
But you don't call a gator a gatour or a operator an operatour. But maybe it's just words with two syllables?? If so, that's a REALLY stupid language rule. Almost as bad as two, to, and too, or there, their, and they're.
And what HELL is up with the "eigh" crap. Why not just naybor? Pretty simple, eh?
Face it, English sucks, and you're just pissed because the American's wanted to simplify it. Jealous? Or should that be jellus?;-)
I *NEVER* thought I'd see the day when Ed Parker and diamond rings showed up in the same story on/. Wow, I think I've had one too many Dew's today, I MUST be seeing things...
No, he wasn't telling her she couldn't WEAR diamonds... just that he wasn't buying them. If she can't respect that, too bad.
But yes, I agree that the sensitive, subtle way is best, but if he truly values "African children" over crystallized carbon, then he shouldn't back down...
Nor should she if she wants to wear that 200 carat necklace.
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Your argument only works if before I built said building, such rules were already in place, and I knew about them in advance of starting construction, as Walt Disney and company did before creating the Mickey phenomenon.
These guys want the rules changed every time the game doesn't go their way.
It was kind of funny actually, having read the trilogy, and sat through 2h and 20m of movie, when it ended, I was like "That's it??? That can't be it... they have to destroy the ring... they can't end it.... doh!"
:-)
Totally forgot it was a trilogy for a second there. It's actually a credit to the director for being able to generate such involvement in the movie that I'd suffer another 6 hours to see it finished!
IIRC, I think the year was '41.
Right, but with research and what *I* consider science, the concrete results might not lead to saleable product.
The job of science isn't to make products. It's to come up with the shit that makes products POSSIBLE. Private industry can then use the science that someone (taxpayers) funded to make product that benefits us.
Our failure to invest in space sciences will allow China, Japan and India to surpass us. Which is all well and good. Maybe it's time to let someone else be king of the space-hill.
We're no good at it.
-Chris
Hehehe... at least the Linux users can continue to write. Emacs, vi and pico work perfectly fine without X. But those pesky Windows users are busy finding their rescue disks...
You know, I REALLY wouldn't dislike NT/2000/XP so much if it had a really robust command line/non-GUI mode.
Disclaimer: I use Unix and Windows about 50/50.
Now, I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but the Iraqi embargo is a UN, not a US embargo.
Cuba on the other hand, I concede is a US monstrosity (as I think embargoes are in general). But stop blaming the US for every embargo and every kid who's dead because of one.
You live in any UN member state, you TOO are responsible for dead children.
-Chris
well by that definition, the beating I gave to that idiot at the bar last night was terrorism... It was unlawful force and violence, right?
-Chris
Really? Not to sound like a troll, and not having read the last two books yet, I don't recall a SINGLE point where Gandalf actually killed anyone.
:-)
Fought yes. Killed? Perhaps it was the goblins in the caves of Moria? Do you count the trolls in "The Hobbit"?
I mean, I always considered Gandalf to be the epitome of Neutral Good... Went out of his way to do the right thing, but never tipped the scales in favor of good or evil either way...
I'm just curious.
-Chris
Oh please.
h tm. And Christa McAuliffe is not an answer. :-)
I challenge you to name a single one of the other astronauts who died aboard Challenger, without looking it up at http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/chron/sts51-l.
I know I couldn't.
So, on another note, anyone know how many people it takes to actually FLY the shuttle? 2? pilot and co-pilot?
-Chris
That's why I IMMEDIATELY dial "0" for an operator as soon as I get the chance... :-)
Helps me skip shitloads of menus.
-Chris
Ok, so let's use an example. Gasoline. The government doesn't use some special brand of gasoline in their weapons of war (unless you call diesel special). No, they use relatively common fuels that 1) are cheap 2) are the same from every pump that dispenses said fuel, and not just from say, Shell's pumps.
.GIF's and Microsoft Office .DOCs and .XLSs.
If we were to demand the same of our governments information, we'd want all documents in XML, with our imagines in TIFF or PNG or GIF or something. As opposed to all documents being patent restricted
I could care less what application they use to create those documents. As long as the files are open, I'm happy. Because say I want to use those images in a tiny little mapping computer. I surely don't want to embed WindowsXP in every single one I sell. No, I want to author my own lightweight application that uses the same data that you can with Adobe Photoshop at home...
Now you're positing a straw man. We're not discussing access to information. We're discussing access to information to the lowest common denominator. When talking about computer information systems, there's a blatant assumption that you have a computer.
And for those who don't, there's the library down the street. Which is still grounds for making sure you have open standards for information dissemination.
Or have I just been trolled?
>> Should a goverment buy from a convicted offender?
If he's paid his debt to society, why the hell not? If he's still on probation, well, maybe not... because he truly hasn't finished paying his debt...
Because my systems make me have one.
:-)
I'd use a blank password if I could.
There would be people who would abuse the system.
But a majority of the people would get bored. Quickly.
Jury-duty like requirements for things like infrastructure repair, roads, sewer, power, food, etc would work to give people in mentally stressful jobs somewhere to let themselves recuperate, give everyone a bit of exercise, etc.
In 3 months if my lazy ass roommate is still not picking up his share, a whole boatload of us are gonna open up a can of whoop-ass on him...
Collective civilizations won't work as long as there are people who need to reinforce a power hierarchy. As long as Alpha-male syndrome exists, it'll never happen.
-Chris
Once upon a time I wrote a MAPI Message Store Provider for Outlook. Never finished it, but was getting damn close. At one point I could present messages from our proprietary T&E management app via CORBA to Outlook, and read my task lists in Outlook.
;-) ) to build the MSP...
So it's not impossible. Perhaps a simple SOAP/XML-RPC protocol for an open source server to make it easy to build web-apps on top of, coupled with a MAPI Store Provider, and the problem is solved.
Hell, I'll volunteer the VOLUMES of knowledge and time I spent on this (3 years ago, so my NDA's no longer apply
chris.mapimsp@ckaminski.com for those who might like to take on such a project. Or how about this, anyone got a good calendaring system that I can just interface with?
Or a calendaring system coupled with an IMAP mail server would make it relatively easy to build mail functionality into the system without having to go to the integration levels that MS did with Exchange.
-Chris
I'm sorry, but if I don't have lynx handy, I'm not going to waste my time picking through HTML tags (considering the SHIT that most HTML mailers produce..). I have better things to do with my time than find the 5 sentences of important shit you have to say in 20K of HTML.
It's not a hate of HTML. I *LOVE* HTML, if you read my post, I explained that profusely. However, in my world:
1. I use multiple types of mailers depending on where I am, and what I'm doing, and how fast my VPN pipe is. (Including webmail, pine, and Outlook).
2. To be honest, I never really thought of such an addition to my mailcap file. Thanks for the tip. Hmm... HTML mail everywhere... unless there's no lynx, but then there's probably no pine either...
Your argument has absolutely NOTHING to do with his point.
.DOC version problems between Office 95, Office 97, Office 2000, and OfficeXP. Just use HTML. Standard HTML 3.0 works in EVERY compliant browser.
.DOC isn't a standard. RTF is much more of a standard. HTML is even better (although it has it's limitations). .TXT is even better.
.CSV format.
;-)
His point: By using non-standard or proprietary (same thing, right) tools, you limit the size of your audience, and overly complicate delivery of information.
Creating Word documents to explain HR benefits is pointless when you can just create an HTML that everyone can read. Nevermind the famous
A better analogy is say, plugging your house into the power grid. 80hz 135v 3phase may be well suited to the devices in YOUR house... but isn't it just better to use the standardized power supply given you by the utility company?
FWIW: I will read HTML mail if I have a mailer that supports it (outlook, netscape, outlook express). If I'm using Pine that day, I will automatically delete the HTML mail, I don't care who it's from.
I will reject EVERY office document that comes into my mailbox, unless it's in RTF or HTML. I'll send a polite email back to the author explaining why. I won't open power point documents, because I don't install powerpoint.
Excel is a useful tool, but I prefer all my data in
I've lost enough documents to obsolescence over the years, I'm sticking with tried and try 7bit (sometimes 8bit) ASCII...
YMMV.
-Chris
Once upon a time, nothing Intel EVER made could touch the likes of an HP/UX or Sparc or Alpha or SGI...
When I was working for a company doing high-end CAD work in the early-mid 90's, if I wanted my testing to finish overnight, the only machines it'd have a reasonable chance of finishing were the SGI's and the Alphas. Followed closely by the Suns and IBMS, then the HPs, and until the Pentium Pro came out, Intel was always dead last (except for those poor hitachis and data general machines)...
Needless to say, 6 years ago, it was a wise decision in many cases to spent $20-30K a seat on a UNIX development system.
Sorry... :) Didn't see your retraction before I finished my previous response. My sources were about as authoritative as cheezedawg's were, since neither his, nor my own came from a U.S. Goverment Law repository.
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A good day to you, this has been a WEIRD day on
-Chris
By your logic, playing the game of battleship involves cheating.
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Say I have the first move in Battleship. I score a hit. Based on my knowledge of the rules of the game, I can make an assumption that there is another part of the ship in one of 4 other squares.
Your logic would demand that I NOT take advantage of that knowledge and randomly pick another space on the board to fire at.
And then, when there's only 10 free spots left on the board, and only 2 possible places a 2 slot ship could fit, your logic would have me not take advantage of the knowledge of WHAT HAS COME BEFORE.
As an analogy it's as close as I can come up with in my dazed caffeine stupor.
As others have already intelligently stated, blackjack is a public game, every card is displayed for both the house and every other player on the board. Just because I happen to be keeping track of the aces doesn't mean I'm cheating. If I'm doing it with a computer or video camera, or marking cards, then yes, I'm cheating.
But this doesn't really matter, because you are not willing to listen, you aren't willing to face the fact that counting cards is not against the law, and that casinos have little recourse against your counting cards (mentally) except asking you to leave.
I attempted to find a statute in the Nevada state law library online, but could not in the 15 minutes I allotted for a rebuttal to you. I suggest if you want to continue in these veins that you PROVE your assumption. Several magazine and news articles:
http://www.gambling.com/static/go_page.cfm?ID=7
But AHA!! A case review of a pair of individuals caught card-counting, and the only PENALTY was one of them spent a night in jail because he refused to identify himself to peace officers:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/9th/0
-Chris
But you don't call a gator a gatour or a operator an operatour. But maybe it's just words with two syllables?? If so, that's a REALLY stupid language rule. Almost as bad as two, to, and too, or there, their, and they're.
;-)
And what HELL is up with the "eigh" crap. Why not just naybor? Pretty simple, eh?
Face it, English sucks, and you're just pissed because the American's wanted to simplify it. Jealous? Or should that be jellus?
I *NEVER* thought I'd see the day when Ed Parker and diamond rings showed up in the same story on /. Wow, I think I've had one too many Dew's today, I MUST be seeing things...
Got to admit though, the man WAS a genius...
No, he wasn't telling her she couldn't WEAR diamonds... just that he wasn't buying them. If she can't respect that, too bad.
But yes, I agree that the sensitive, subtle way is best, but if he truly values "African children" over crystallized carbon, then he shouldn't back down...
Nor should she if she wants to wear that 200 carat necklace.