And by these signs shall ye be warned: natural order turned a-head - the chicken rises from the pot; laws of logic lose their sway - appropriate analogies on Slashdot
Step 1: Buy game Step 2: copy disk, use key Step 3: Exchange game claiming key is in use (well, it is now!) Step 4: Refund new, shrinkwrapped game. Try a refunding at a different branch if you want to play it safe.
Hah, that's interesting. I've heard people complaining about the Ico cover art before, and I was inclined to agree. Funny thing is, I never realised before that here in New Zealand we actually got the japanese box art. I thought the art sucked because it used a poorly drawn cartoon style and featured a large, boring open area. The game itself is one of the most visually impressive games ever released for the PS2 and has machinery and architecture of the design calibre you might expect from a Myst game.
Who would have thought that the American cover was even worse?
1. Is contact with aliens going to signal the end of humanity as we know it at the hands of our new alien overlords? 2. Are the presenters hot, and can I get a copy?
Oh yeah, I agree totally. The tram really sucked. You're right that you shouldn't have to slow down for the interface, the important bit is solving the problem. Just off the top of my head I'd say that the puzzle interfaces got better in the later games, but I haven't played any for a while so I could be wrong.
Well, I see your point about only being able to falsify thing which are "within one's own reality", but I worry that you might be making an a priori assumption about what is within reality. Sub-atomic particles, which I'm sure you would agree are within reality, were thought up as a theory and confirmed by experiment.
What if we could perform repeatable scientific experiments which showed a correlation between sacrificing a bull to Mars and victory in battle? Would you accept that Mars was actually within the realm of reality? The situation is parallel to sub-atomic particles, but involves a God. I would claim that under these circumstances the theory "sacrificing to Mars increases the chance of victory in battle" is scientific, whereas I think you would not on the grounds that it involves a God.
Well, I wasn't going to support my nomination since I just assumed that everyone was familiar with the franchise.
from Wikipedia:
"Myst has sold over 6 million copies and held the title of best-selling computer game of all time throughout much of the 1990s before being overtaken by The Sims"
"it was also intensively criticised, mostly around the lack of "action" in the game, leading some to claim the game is boring... [but] which those who like the game would claim is the main point."
To address the great+ grandparent:
1) it largely appeals to geeks who are fond of the subtle and contemplative play style, and also literary types who appreciate the biblical themes.
2) Myst players look down on players of games which resort to such crass mechanics as 'action' and 'excitement', and particularly those who look up the solutions to puzzles on the internet
3) couldn't comment on where it would be sold in America. BUT you might get a sales assistant suggesting that you should only buy it if you're sure you're into "that kind of thing".
I think I understand what you're saying. I agree with you 100% about terrorists being the new witches/commies.
To address the trampling of terrorists' rights, you might not be as far from the main stream as you think. Which rights were you thinking of trampling? Once someone is convicted as a terrorist they lose most of their rights anyway, there's not much left to trample.
More generally, and in agreement with you, I'd like to remind slashdot that whenever you hear about terrorist suspects or child molester suspects or hacker suspects they're talking about YOU. Everyone is potientially a suspect, particularly if the local law enforcement is more interested in persecuting you than determining your innocence or guilt. Don't stand for any treatment of suspects that you wouldn't accept for yourself.
I'm sorry, but that's absolutely NOT what makes a theory scientific. Scientific theories respect no definition of 'natural' or 'unnatural', or whether things are 'in our reality' or not. The important thing is falsifiability. Most theories involving God(s) are unscientific specifically because they are unfalsifiable.
Creationism for instance - if we claim that all species were created 6000 years ago we can examine the fossil record and see if there is a sharp distinction 6000 years ago where all species suddenly appeared. As it happens, there is not, and this shows that creationism as stated above is SCIENTIFIC, FALSIFIABLE, and FALSIFIED. It made a prediction and was shown to be wrong. Fair enough.
Creationism becomes unscientific when you add extra bits like "...because God made it that way", or "God put the fossils there to trick us". How can you show it was God, not Satan? or Loki? or The Flying Spaghetti Monster? If the fossils were put there to trick us, how can you show that this is different from the fossils being there because those animals actually lived and died in the past? With no way to test these questions, Creationism becomes unscientific because it cannot be falsified.
Back to String Theory. I wouldn't say I understand it at all, but it's important to remember that a theory is scientific if it makes predictions which can be tested. If String Theory's predictions are all too hard to test given our current micro/macro physics technology then it's what I like to call a crappy scientific theory.
Creating a self-cleaning mouse is all very well, but how long until we can do this for humans? We can cure practically every form of cancer in mice, but reproducing those results in humans is notoriously difficult.
We all know what a boon to humanity it would be to have self-cleaning geeks, but I don't expect to see one within ten years, if at all in my lifetime. This is mmore flying cars and moon domes technology:(
Sure, we all know Sony are completely batshit crazy - but if you ignore the gloom-and-doom reporting you'll realise that the following scenario is more plausible:
Gran Turismo: Menu Edition comes free with your PS3 Live account, which also includes $20 of credit at the Sony store. Everyone picks up a couple of tracks and a couple of cars with their credit and plays a LIMITED PREVIEW of the real new Gran Turismo game. Sony gets to showcase their online service with a popular franchise and gets free publicity for said franchise. Micropayments seperate fanboys from their money, everyone else just plays the game with a couple of cars.
The game is also available as Gran Turismo: I'm Too Lame For The Internet Edition, which has a couple of cars and a couple of tracks and you can play it with your mates without ever connecting to the internet.
Now THAT'S a sensible plan... what Sony will actually do remains to be seen.
Having been in your position, I can tell you why to upgrade. I upgraded 98->ME when I got my digital camera - ME shows thumbnail previews in windows explorer. I upgraded ME->2k at the start of this year when I got a new computer, mostly so I could rip all my cds to iTunes (oh, the irony). iTunes doesn't run on win9x.
Of course I didn't actually pay for any of these upgrades, just cadging of what my mates had lying around.
And what, pray tell, is a proper design for a voting system? Unless you're using it to print a paper ballot you can't verify that your vote is being correctly reported. Granted, existing voting machines don't even seem to properly implement their own crappy designs, but the root of the problem with electronic voting is that there's no physical artifact that you can keep track of.
I'm from New Zealand, yet another country that still uses paper ballots. The system works great. You put your vote in a box at a local polling station (school/church/something) and any interested parties can hang around to make sure that nobody messes with the ballot boxes. How do you do that with bits in a computer? FYI, we also have results by about midnight on the day and television coverage of results as they are returned. It makes for a great night of drinking while watching democracy in action:)
... or everyone would just go back to buying CDs and ripping them - like they do right now in all the territories where iPods are available but ITMS isn't.
The lady said she completed a VISA application to go to Russia, and went to China last year.
I'm not sure what to make of that. She tried to go to Russia but ended up in China instead? Sure they're next to each other but they're both FRICKIN' HUGE! How do you make a mistake like that?
On the other hand, if you mean that she got a Russian visa and somehow used it to gain access to China... that's AWESOME! Respect to Old Granny Bond, international septugenarian of mystery!
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Whew, that was close. We almost lost the rest of the thread to mismatched parentheses!
;)
Don't mind me, just the Programmer's OCD kicking in
Oh, crap. Here comes the apocalypse.
And by these signs shall ye be warned:
natural order turned a-head -
the chicken rises from the pot;
laws of logic lose their sway -
appropriate analogies on Slashdot
So, some lazy bum at Google used their 'own project' day to reimplement false as a web service?
Or, depending on how alert the store is:
Step 1: Buy game
Step 2: copy disk, use key
Step 3: Exchange game claiming key is in use (well, it is now!)
Step 4: Refund new, shrinkwrapped game. Try a refunding at a different branch if you want to play it safe.
Hah, that's interesting. I've heard people complaining about the Ico cover art before, and I was inclined to agree. Funny thing is, I never realised before that here in New Zealand we actually got the japanese box art. I thought the art sucked because it used a poorly drawn cartoon style and featured a large, boring open area. The game itself is one of the most visually impressive games ever released for the PS2 and has machinery and architecture of the design calibre you might expect from a Myst game.
Who would have thought that the American cover was even worse?
It's only illegal if the Feds are looking for a reason to arrest you ;)
Two important questions:
1. Is contact with aliens going to signal the end of humanity as we know it at the hands of our new alien overlords?
2. Are the presenters hot, and can I get a copy?
Yeah, but putting in a tag makes me feel better... Umm, I mean it provides a certain necessary release.. I mean,.. oh crap, I give up.
Oh yeah, I agree totally. The tram really sucked. You're right that you shouldn't have to slow down for the interface, the important bit is solving the problem. Just off the top of my head I'd say that the puzzle interfaces got better in the later games, but I haven't played any for a while so I could be wrong.
Well, I see your point about only being able to falsify thing which are "within one's own reality", but I worry that you might be making an a priori assumption about what is within reality. Sub-atomic particles, which I'm sure you would agree are within reality, were thought up as a theory and confirmed by experiment.
What if we could perform repeatable scientific experiments which showed a correlation between sacrificing a bull to Mars and victory in battle? Would you accept that Mars was actually within the realm of reality? The situation is parallel to sub-atomic particles, but involves a God. I would claim that under these circumstances the theory "sacrificing to Mars increases the chance of victory in battle" is scientific, whereas I think you would not on the grounds that it involves a God.
Well, I wasn't going to support my nomination since I just assumed that everyone was familiar with the franchise.
... [but] which those who like the game would claim is the main point."
from Wikipedia:
"Myst has sold over 6 million copies and held the title of best-selling computer game of all time throughout much of the 1990s before being overtaken by The Sims"
"it was also intensively criticised, mostly around the lack of "action" in the game, leading some to claim the game is boring
To address the great+ grandparent:
1) it largely appeals to geeks who are fond of the subtle and contemplative play style, and also literary types who appreciate the biblical themes.
2) Myst players look down on players of games which resort to such crass mechanics as 'action' and 'excitement', and particularly those who look up the solutions to puzzles on the internet
3) couldn't comment on where it would be sold in America. BUT you might get a sales assistant suggesting that you should only buy it if you're sure you're into "that kind of thing".
I think I understand what you're saying. I agree with you 100% about terrorists being the new witches/commies.
To address the trampling of terrorists' rights, you might not be as far from the main stream as you think. Which rights were you thinking of trampling? Once someone is convicted as a terrorist they lose most of their rights anyway, there's not much left to trample.
More generally, and in agreement with you, I'd like to remind slashdot that whenever you hear about terrorist suspects or child molester suspects or hacker suspects they're talking about YOU. Everyone is potientially a suspect, particularly if the local law enforcement is more interested in persecuting you than determining your innocence or guilt. Don't stand for any treatment of suspects that you wouldn't accept for yourself.
I'm sorry, but that's absolutely NOT what makes a theory scientific. Scientific theories respect no definition of 'natural' or 'unnatural', or whether things are 'in our reality' or not. The important thing is falsifiability. Most theories involving God(s) are unscientific specifically because they are unfalsifiable.
Creationism for instance - if we claim that all species were created 6000 years ago we can examine the fossil record and see if there is a sharp distinction 6000 years ago where all species suddenly appeared. As it happens, there is not, and this shows that creationism as stated above is SCIENTIFIC, FALSIFIABLE, and FALSIFIED. It made a prediction and was shown to be wrong. Fair enough.
Creationism becomes unscientific when you add extra bits like "...because God made it that way", or "God put the fossils there to trick us". How can you show it was God, not Satan? or Loki? or The Flying Spaghetti Monster? If the fossils were put there to trick us, how can you show that this is different from the fossils being there because those animals actually lived and died in the past? With no way to test these questions, Creationism becomes unscientific because it cannot be falsified.
Back to String Theory. I wouldn't say I understand it at all, but it's important to remember that a theory is scientific if it makes predictions which can be tested. If String Theory's predictions are all too hard to test given our current micro/macro physics technology then it's what I like to call a crappy scientific theory.
Myst.
best of all, the space elevator takes enormous loads!
Creating a self-cleaning mouse is all very well, but how long until we can do this for humans? We can cure practically every form of cancer in mice, but reproducing those results in humans is notoriously difficult.
:(
We all know what a boon to humanity it would be to have self-cleaning geeks, but I don't expect to see one within ten years, if at all in my lifetime. This is mmore flying cars and moon domes technology
Sure, we all know Sony are completely batshit crazy - but if you ignore the gloom-and-doom reporting you'll realise that the following scenario is more plausible:
Gran Turismo: Menu Edition comes free with your PS3 Live account, which also includes $20 of credit at the Sony store. Everyone picks up a couple of tracks and a couple of cars with their credit and plays a LIMITED PREVIEW of the real new Gran Turismo game. Sony gets to showcase their online service with a popular franchise and gets free publicity for said franchise. Micropayments seperate fanboys from their money, everyone else just plays the game with a couple of cars.
The game is also available as Gran Turismo: I'm Too Lame For The Internet Edition, which has a couple of cars and a couple of tracks and you can play it with your mates without ever connecting to the internet.
Now THAT'S a sensible plan... what Sony will actually do remains to be seen.
Ouch! Where's my "+1, Poor Taste" mod option?
Having been in your position, I can tell you why to upgrade. I upgraded 98->ME when I got my digital camera - ME shows thumbnail previews in windows explorer. I upgraded ME->2k at the start of this year when I got a new computer, mostly so I could rip all my cds to iTunes (oh, the irony). iTunes doesn't run on win9x.
Of course I didn't actually pay for any of these upgrades, just cadging of what my mates had lying around.
You mean liberals would use only the necessay force to abridge constitutional freedoms? We know what you mean, but watch your wording son.
And what, pray tell, is a proper design for a voting system? Unless you're using it to print a paper ballot you can't verify that your vote is being correctly reported. Granted, existing voting machines don't even seem to properly implement their own crappy designs, but the root of the problem with electronic voting is that there's no physical artifact that you can keep track of.
:)
I'm from New Zealand, yet another country that still uses paper ballots. The system works great. You put your vote in a box at a local polling station (school/church/something) and any interested parties can hang around to make sure that nobody messes with the ballot boxes. How do you do that with bits in a computer? FYI, we also have results by about midnight on the day and television coverage of results as they are returned. It makes for a great night of drinking while watching democracy in action
Speaking of which, where is Roland Piquepaille?
... or everyone would just go back to buying CDs and ripping them - like they do right now in all the territories where iPods are available but ITMS isn't.
A vote for Bush then ?
I'm not sure what to make of that. She tried to go to Russia but ended up in China instead? Sure they're next to each other but they're both FRICKIN' HUGE! How do you make a mistake like that?
On the other hand, if you mean that she got a Russian visa and somehow used it to gain access to China... that's AWESOME! Respect to Old Granny Bond, international septugenarian of mystery!