Linux, as software, is free as in speech, and can be free as in beer, too. That doesn't give any indication over the cost of support.
I've never understood where people get this mindset that they're entitled to support. If you can't conform to the rules/etiquette of a particular support venue, you get no support. Simple as that. Does that attitude make me a snob? I don't really care.
Bottom line, if you didn't pay for support, and you didn't get that great of an experience, then you got what you paid for. If you got good support, (this is usually in most cases) then that just means you got a good value for the money you didn't pay.
If Dell offered a PC sans OS at a discount from the regular price it would sell very well. They would stock bare drives to supply these configurations. Dell doesn't sell naked boxes because Microsoft won't let them. They know that 99% of all blank hard drives end up with a pirated copy of Windows on them.
Um.
Dell does sell boxes without OSes. Thats the N-Series the GGP was mentioning. However, he didn't read far enough down. The N-Series has no OS on the hard drive, and it has a FreeDOS CD dropped in the box with it, before shipping. You're responsible for the OS and the drivers.
The n64 was an awesome console with an awesome controller. An analog stick, standard on all controllers, genius. Ever since then a D-pad has felt so wrong.
While I will agree that it had some great features, I have to say that the N64 controller was one of the most uncomfortable controllers I've used. Maybe it's because I have large hands, but the "grips" on the ends of the controllers felt too thin, and that ended up making the controller's top feel too "flat" when playing fighting/wrestling games. I remember while playing one of the early THQ WWF games (I think it was Smack Down!, but I'm not sure), I had to quit playing after about 15 minutes of play, because my right hand was aching from the repetitive button mashing the game required.
It could just be that WWF games sucked back then(SHOCKER!), but any time I had to smash those A/B buttons repetitively in any N64 game, I got that ache, and would have to stop playing for around an hour or so. Aside from that, I think the N64 controller really helped bring some features like the analog joystick and the "Rumble Pack" into modern console gaming.
Because the property you earned during you life work and investiments was due to a stable society, economy and government investment in infastructure.
Many others have pointed out issues with your statements. I shall ask you one question: What about those who made money, despite there being an unstable society, economy, or infrastructure? There are rich people in 3rd world countries, for instance, that didn't get their money by dishonest means. They did so despite the poor conditions.
I'd just like to reiterate that all throughout your life, you're paying taxes on what you earn. When you earn wages, you're taxed. When you buy a house with those wages, you're taxed. Every year you own that house, you're taxed. If you sell the house, you're taxed if you made a profit from the sale.
I'm sorry, but it's just ridiculous how many taxes we pay. If we haven't contributed to the stable society, infrastructure, and economy after all of that, I question the people in charge of making the decisions. I'm certainly paying too much, and I submit it's because they're spending too much.
Do us all a favor. If you don't cite articles from a liberal propaganda machine like CommonDreams.org, I won't cite articles from everyone's neocon "news" machine, Fox News. Did you check today's headlines? OMFG! AN OIL PIPE BUSTED AMINALS R GONNA DIE!!! -- OMFG! BUSH'S POST WAR POLICY SI TEH GHEY!!! As much as I take issue with some of President Bush's actions, I think it's a bit much to draw parallels between him and Slobodan Milosevic just so you can push the idea of OMFG BUSH SI TEH GHEY!!!
Geez. That's something you're going to have to get used to.
Have you ever played Battlefield 2?
NON-skippable EA splash logo.
NON-skippable DICE logo ...and then there's like 3 skippable movies.
I don't like spam in emails, I don't like obnoxious ads on web pages. What makes them think I want to sit there and endure a company's spam when I just want to hop in for a quick game.
...and then comes the day that your OS goes tits-up for some reason, and you didn't make a backup recently. How do you suppose you're going to get your files?
Personally, I'd rather make sure I had a good firewall, etc, and that I was really careful about where I set my portable system down.
So I took a good look around and they still have some parts like resistors and stuff, and some stuff I have no earthly clue about, but the majority of their store is overpriced phones, overpriced computers, and overpriced toys for adults with too much money and too little sense. I was very disheartened.
Did you notice that the items you described were not only overpriced, but even poor quality? Radio shack used to have some decent deals on things like audio equipment, and RC toys. Not any more-- they still sell those things, but they're nowhere near the quality they used to be.
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I still use Gnome, and like it overall, but I hate how they force EVERY change on me. Sometimes the old way was fine (or better!).
This is why I've quit using Gnome entirely. I have to use an FC4 box at work, and I can't change the default DE on it. I'm actually impressed with Gnome's responsiveness on FC4. But, I can't stomach using a DE/WM that EVERY update changes something, and I don't know if I will or won't be able to change it back to the way I'm used to.
...That's not sustainable, nor is it scalable, in terms of user base. I realize that Linux is all about customization, and all that, but when you're talking about this "user" base that Gnome's trying to placate, it's not acceptable to that same base to have to re-learn things, no matter how intuitive or "for the better" that change is.
I will say this much, and I invite the flames for it: At least, for the most part, Micrsoft has kept a number of things consistent in the Windows UI, or they've at least made the "old" way accessible with a minimum of trouble. I like the fact that I can count on a "Run..." option being in the Start menu no matter if it's Windows 95, or if it's Vista. I'm not advocating one DE over another, but at least with KDE, I can have the same feat, or if I want it differently, it's not like pulling teeth to change the default. (Or in some instances, it's not completely impossible)
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Would you care to explain how gnome-screensaver stops xscreensaver from working?
I'm not the OP, but I can venture a guess at the point of the comment.
Nothing is stopping you from using xscreensaver. But, isn't the point of a Desktop Envirionment to be all-inclusive? If I have to switch back to the "old" program that the "new" one was supposed to supplant, what's the point?
Lag can manifest itself as stuttering in certain situations. When you're looking at an MMORPG, there's tons of low-latency requirement issues to look at. Your position, and the positions of everything around you are constantly being sent to your gaming client. So, if you're not getting data quickly enough, of course your game's going to be "slow".
10 years is FAR too long for software development. You'd either be limiting your functionality, or tip-toeing around bug/quirks of a particular old browser more than making new features.
The only reason why there's a 10 year requirement for car manufacturers (at least in the US) is a safety issue-- you wouldn't want 10 year old cars rolling around on bad brakes due to parts being unavailable, would you?
i'm not sure you can draw valid parallels between running the infrastructure in a small business and running the infrastructure of a first-world nation.
I don't see why not. I'm not the OP, but who said anything about small businesses? If anything, larger businesses and governments should have more staff in-house. They should really rely on outside support more along the lines of a development liason, or something-- a technical resource the in-house "experts" can call to see why some portions of an application's code aren't as highly optimized, or to help identify bugs in the software that could cause catastrophic failure. If one man can keep a 100 seat installation running without having to call a company for support, couldn't that be scaled up such that 100 people could keep a 10,000 seat installation running in the same fashion? (Surely, it wouldn't scale that evenly, but I think the point is clear.)
When I think of "support" for a large IT infrastructure, I'm thinking partnerships for customized solutions and fast critical incident response, not "who do I call when my DB developer gets an error inserting a record into a table?".
An 1/8" jack is what's on your old man's "HiFi" from the 60s or 70s. iPods, PDAs, portable CD players, and other portable audio devices typically use a 3.5mm jack for the headphones, which is much smaller.
No.
You're thinking a 1/4" jack. 3.5mm is 1/8", roughly.
But there's the possibility that life in meteorites was just burned away traveling through the atmosphere at high speeds. I would assume that Stardust would have been designed to keep things from getting TOO hot, so those lifeforms that were previously burned away might possibly have more of a chance to make it to the surface unharmed.
That's true-- and come to think of it, I'm not going to be anywhere near those lifeforms once they're taken off of the probe. Once they find out our atmosphere has been burning up their relatives, they're going to be PISSED.
I hate to break this to ya, but cygwin isn't linux...
Who the hell modded this Flamebait? Cygwin isn't Linux. I can run bash on a Solaris machine, along with a bunch of other GNU tools. Does that mean my Solaris machine just became a Linux box?
Good point Miscrosoft does this all the time - Office and Works, XP pro and XP home.
Actually, no-- Microsoft does not do this.
Not trying to defend anyone here, but Office and Works are aimed at two different consumer segments, as are XP Home and Pro. While one does lack functionality compared to its counterpart, it's more along the lines of a company selling a truck with a tow winch and one without-- not every customer needs that functionality.
This law isn't a bad idea. I've been in workplaces where I've done all I was asked (and more), but the management sucked, you never got recognized for your work, and they couldn't do anything except ask for more.
It really does make a level playing field for hiring. In this state, you rely more on your personal references, and not on your employers. That is, unless you list an employer as a reference-- you're still able to do that if you wanted to.
It's not as bad as you make it out-- it's just a different way of doing things. Just as it protects the poor worker, it protects the good worker as well-- wouldn't you be likely to sue if you found out you didn't get picked for a job because your previous employer falsely indicated that you were a poor performer at your old job?
It's against the law to give a bad reference in my state (TN). You can only answer "yes" or "no" to the question: "Is person eligible to work at your company ever again?
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I've got 2 ECS-based systems, and they work just fine. One's been running now for over 4 years.
...now sea? You just took that too far.
It already does this: the option was called "Download but don't show" in older versions. I don't know what it's called now.
Linux, as software, is free as in speech, and can be free as in beer, too. That doesn't give any indication over the cost of support.
I've never understood where people get this mindset that they're entitled to support. If you can't conform to the rules/etiquette of a particular support venue, you get no support. Simple as that. Does that attitude make me a snob? I don't really care.
Bottom line, if you didn't pay for support, and you didn't get that great of an experience, then you got what you paid for. If you got good support, (this is usually in most cases) then that just means you got a good value for the money you didn't pay.
Um.
Dell does sell boxes without OSes. Thats the N-Series the GGP was mentioning. However, he didn't read far enough down. The N-Series has no OS on the hard drive, and it has a FreeDOS CD dropped in the box with it, before shipping. You're responsible for the OS and the drivers.
BINGO!
It could just be that WWF games sucked back then(SHOCKER!), but any time I had to smash those A/B buttons repetitively in any N64 game, I got that ache, and would have to stop playing for around an hour or so. Aside from that, I think the N64 controller really helped bring some features like the analog joystick and the "Rumble Pack" into modern console gaming.
Many others have pointed out issues with your statements. I shall ask you one question: What about those who made money, despite there being an unstable society, economy, or infrastructure? There are rich people in 3rd world countries, for instance, that didn't get their money by dishonest means. They did so despite the poor conditions.
I'd just like to reiterate that all throughout your life, you're paying taxes on what you earn. When you earn wages, you're taxed. When you buy a house with those wages, you're taxed. Every year you own that house, you're taxed. If you sell the house, you're taxed if you made a profit from the sale.
I'm sorry, but it's just ridiculous how many taxes we pay. If we haven't contributed to the stable society, infrastructure, and economy after all of that, I question the people in charge of making the decisions. I'm certainly paying too much, and I submit it's because they're spending too much.
Do us all a favor. If you don't cite articles from a liberal propaganda machine like CommonDreams.org, I won't cite articles from everyone's neocon "news" machine, Fox News. Did you check today's headlines? OMFG! AN OIL PIPE BUSTED AMINALS R GONNA DIE!!! -- OMFG! BUSH'S POST WAR POLICY SI TEH GHEY!!! As much as I take issue with some of President Bush's actions, I think it's a bit much to draw parallels between him and Slobodan Milosevic just so you can push the idea of OMFG BUSH SI TEH GHEY!!!
Have you ever played Battlefield 2?
NON-skippable EA splash logo.
...and then there's like 3 skippable movies.
NON-skippable DICE logo
I don't like spam in emails, I don't like obnoxious ads on web pages. What makes them think I want to sit there and endure a company's spam when I just want to hop in for a quick game.
Personally, I'd rather make sure I had a good firewall, etc, and that I was really careful about where I set my portable system down.
So I took a good look around and they still have some parts like resistors and stuff, and some stuff I have no earthly clue about, but the majority of their store is overpriced phones, overpriced computers, and overpriced toys for adults with too much money and too little sense. I was very disheartened. Did you notice that the items you described were not only overpriced, but even poor quality? Radio shack used to have some decent deals on things like audio equipment, and RC toys. Not any more-- they still sell those things, but they're nowhere near the quality they used to be.
This is why I've quit using Gnome entirely. I have to use an FC4 box at work, and I can't change the default DE on it. I'm actually impressed with Gnome's responsiveness on FC4. But, I can't stomach using a DE/WM that EVERY update changes something, and I don't know if I will or won't be able to change it back to the way I'm used to.
I will say this much, and I invite the flames for it: At least, for the most part, Micrsoft has kept a number of things consistent in the Windows UI, or they've at least made the "old" way accessible with a minimum of trouble. I like the fact that I can count on a "Run..." option being in the Start menu no matter if it's Windows 95, or if it's Vista. I'm not advocating one DE over another, but at least with KDE, I can have the same feat, or if I want it differently, it's not like pulling teeth to change the default. (Or in some instances, it's not completely impossible)
I'm not the OP, but I can venture a guess at the point of the comment.
Nothing is stopping you from using xscreensaver. But, isn't the point of a Desktop Envirionment to be all-inclusive? If I have to switch back to the "old" program that the "new" one was supposed to supplant, what's the point?
Same here. Just opened up Simpletext on my System 7.1 Macintosh IIci. Lo and behold, there's Quit under the File menu.
Darwin would have a fit over this!!!
Lag can manifest itself as stuttering in certain situations. When you're looking at an MMORPG, there's tons of low-latency requirement issues to look at. Your position, and the positions of everything around you are constantly being sent to your gaming client. So, if you're not getting data quickly enough, of course your game's going to be "slow".
The only reason why there's a 10 year requirement for car manufacturers (at least in the US) is a safety issue-- you wouldn't want 10 year old cars rolling around on bad brakes due to parts being unavailable, would you?
I don't see why not. I'm not the OP, but who said anything about small businesses? If anything, larger businesses and governments should have more staff in-house. They should really rely on outside support more along the lines of a development liason, or something-- a technical resource the in-house "experts" can call to see why some portions of an application's code aren't as highly optimized, or to help identify bugs in the software that could cause catastrophic failure. If one man can keep a 100 seat installation running without having to call a company for support, couldn't that be scaled up such that 100 people could keep a 10,000 seat installation running in the same fashion? (Surely, it wouldn't scale that evenly, but I think the point is clear.)
When I think of "support" for a large IT infrastructure, I'm thinking partnerships for customized solutions and fast critical incident response, not "who do I call when my DB developer gets an error inserting a record into a table?".
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You're thinking a 1/4" jack. 3.5mm is 1/8", roughly.
That's true-- and come to think of it, I'm not going to be anywhere near those lifeforms once they're taken off of the probe. Once they find out our atmosphere has been burning up their relatives, they're going to be PISSED.
Who the hell modded this Flamebait? Cygwin isn't Linux. I can run bash on a Solaris machine, along with a bunch of other GNU tools. Does that mean my Solaris machine just became a Linux box?
Actually, no-- Microsoft does not do this.
Not trying to defend anyone here, but Office and Works are aimed at two different consumer segments, as are XP Home and Pro. While one does lack functionality compared to its counterpart, it's more along the lines of a company selling a truck with a tow winch and one without-- not every customer needs that functionality.
It really does make a level playing field for hiring. In this state, you rely more on your personal references, and not on your employers. That is, unless you list an employer as a reference-- you're still able to do that if you wanted to.
It's not as bad as you make it out-- it's just a different way of doing things. Just as it protects the poor worker, it protects the good worker as well-- wouldn't you be likely to sue if you found out you didn't get picked for a job because your previous employer falsely indicated that you were a poor performer at your old job?
It's against the law to give a bad reference in my state (TN). You can only answer "yes" or "no" to the question: "Is person eligible to work at your company ever again?