This is a really interesting concept. Not only from the demanding perspective (eg earthquake, blizzard) but think of the planning possibilities.
If you add some metadata about the input (eg. a snow blocked road would be a requirement for clearance, and a snow plough would be a method of clearing) and a higher level system could start to organise resources accordingly, with or without human intervention.
Of course, a "humanitarian crisis" would have human involvement anyway, but think about traffic for example. Cars could send their current speed and location to a network that redistributed traffic in peak hour. This is more than just traffic avoidance, it's highway load balancing...
Nor did we last time. Nobody understands the list it seems:) But your point was "people won't find out", not they "won't understand".
"...But about half of the sites on the list are not related to child porn and include a slew of online poker sites, YouTube links, regular gay and straight porn sites, Wikipedia entries, euthanasia sites, websites of fringe religions such as satanic sites, fetish sites, Christian sites, the website of a tour operator and even a Queensland dentist..." (Sydney Morning Herald)
In everyday terms, this energy isn't so great – a flying mosquito has about 1 TeV of kinetic energy. What makes the LHC so special is that this energy is concentrated in a region a thousand billion times smaller than a speck of dust.
... I'll remember that next time I squat a mosquito!
You make an interesting point, if not necessarily for sexbots...
Think of the Star Trek movie First Contact where Data gets feeling on his arm from the Borg - image what a difference this could make to a robot?!
Imagine not only touch sensitive fingers, but the ability to detect wind, or feel past objects such as trees or guage the movement of a crowd. For a robot that's pretty cool.
This has big implications for the robot industry. They shouldn't look like us, but they should be as functionally similar to us as possible (or better).
Are you having a laugh? 12 children specifically chosen because of their having a specific diagnosis in a population of >60 million people in the middle of a mass innoculation aren't diagnosed with a similar syndrome.
yes of course, and I think you meant "aren't"? A lack of ethics approval is different to a specific ethics committee disapproval (which appears what they got, for valid reasons).
Seriously. You aren't claiming anything, you're just suggesting something that you are denying having said you even believe. So why are you saying anything at all?
wait, which one is the car?
*sigh* I'm not suggesting that MMR vaccine causes autism. This is my last post, if you guys don't get it then too bad.
I am saying "anything at all" because originally there was a comment
There is more anecdotal evidence to prove vaccines don't cause autism, so wouldn't that push the debate into being over, if anecdotal evidence is the measuring bar?
This comment in itself is wrong. Let's disengage the issue and analyse it. Paraphrasing:
"There is more anecdotal evidence to prove x doesn't cause y, so wouldn't that push the debate into being over, if anecdotal evidence is the measuring bar?"
Answer: No.
Reason: let there be a theory that f(x) = f(y) for all values of x. You could try and prove it by substituting numbers for x. You could show that thousands of values of x are consistent with your theory. This does not prove it.
You could find one value for which the theory does not hold. This does disprove it.
I am not saying that therefore the MMR - autism link is proven.
I am not saying that any child with autism who's had an MMR vaccine proves the link.
My original mistake was to use a personal anecdote in my post. I thought people might find it interesting. I'll take care not do to that in the future.
As a parent I can understand those that prefer to error on the side of caution, because even with 1000 to 1 odds against it happening that is still your kid that you are risking.
I'd suggest looking up the mortality rates of the diseases you're failing to immunize against.
Negatory ghost rider. Statistics mean nothing to the individual, only to large groups. According to statistics, both my kids should have had Down Syndrome (from the scans) but neither of them have. That doesn't disprove the measurement theories for early detection of Down Syndrome, just that in my case we had 2 exceptions.
If he wants to ignore the vaccine, and go with the consequences, then that's up to him, so long as he accepts the consequences whatever they may be (including death).
Or its proof there was something else wrong with the person who took the vaccine and it was all coincidental that they showed symptoms after being vaccinated.
And you're telling me this because...?
Let me say it slowly: I. Agree. With. You.
I'm not drawing any links between MMR and Autism. I was just talking about proofs in and of themselves, nothing to do with MMR / autism.
The night before I showed symptoms of ALL, I had been playing with a late 1970s Han Solo blaster pistol in my uncle's unfinished basement. Dose that mean a toy gun, an unfinished basement and/or playing are linked to ALL?
If that's what you want to think, but that's going a bit far.
"Descending into autism" is an awfully broad term. It's sure as hell not scientific. Just right for anecdotal evidence really.
I'm not trying to use it as scientific evidence. I said "descending" because she wasn't diagnosed until much later, but the symptoms started then.
If you talk to autistic children's parents you'll find they often describe it as a descent. Changes don't happen immediately, or from birth, but they often reach a developmental point and then start going backwards, hence my use of the word
The scientific studies conducted over hundreds of thousands of people that showed no evidence that MMR caused autism may carry more weight than what your friends say.
Of course, but I never claimed to:
- be a scientist
- conduct studies
- believe the link between MMR and autism
I was previously talking about proofs. I used an example because I have a close relationship to the story.
me too, but that's my point which you might be missing. You can't take one healthy MMR-vaccinated person and prove that all MMR vaccine cases will never cause any side-effects.
It only takes one person with a side effect LINKED to the MMR vaccine to prove that they're all potentially dangerous. Note the link has to be well proven.
I'm not saying it is or isn't a good vaccine, I'm just talking about proofs.
What does that mean? And because the local ethics committee didn't approve it does that mean the results are invalid? (Granted assuming the tactics didn't skew the results, they could still be valid)
It only takes one exception to disprove a rule, but to prove a rule you need to prove it for all cases.
Friends of ours have a daughter who started descending into autism one week after the MMR vaccine.
However I think the larger issue here is the weakening of the human race - as we continue to vaccinate, use antibiotics, and fix defects with surgery, we're allowing weak genetic traits to propagate that would otherwise be bred out. Nevertheless I still get my kids vaccinated.
xinerama + xrandr does not solve the question posed by the OP.
Yes it does.
... or a separate screen on each monitor which does not allow moving windows between screens).
OP wants two monitors with their own separate workspaces,
Xinerama.
while still being able to drag windows between them.
Xinerama
In other words, OP wants to be able to transfer running applications between separate X screens,
No he doesn't. You implied separate X screens. The OP just wanted separate virtual desktop switching.
which to my knowledge is not currently possible (or, if it's possible, the functionality is not exposed in Gnome or KDE).
Xinerama
This isn't "+1 Insightful", it's "-1 Didn't bother reading the OP" (or "-1 Doesn't really know what xinerama+xrandr does").
There are two types of xinerama. X xinerama, and nvidia xinerama. nvidia's xinerama is provided so that nvidia twinview (which fools X into thinking you only have one monitor) doesn't make windows maximise across two screens and dialogs pop up in the centre. You can use the original X xinerama without using nvidia's twinview which gives you separate virtual desktops and everything the OP wants. X sees the two monitors and uses it's own xinerama.
xinerama is understood by metacity, compiz, wine, tvtime, mplayer, xscreensaver, and a whole host of other programs. Even if they don't, it's usually sufficient for the window manager to handle it.
The first prototype of the Dymaxion Vehicle had been on the road for just three months when it crashed, near the entrance to the Chicago World's Fair; the driver was killed, and one of the passengers-a British aviation expert-was seriously injured. Eventually, it was revealed that another car was responsible for the accident, but only two more Dymaxion Vehicles were produced before production was halted, in 1934. Although Wikipedia claims "The cause of the accident was not determined, although Buckminster Fuller reported that the accident was due to the actions of another vehicle that had been closely following the Dymaxion."[1][2]
One of Buckminster Fuller's earliest inventions was a car shaped like a blimp. The car had three wheels-two up front, one in the back-and a periscope instead of a rear window. Owing to its unusual design, it could be maneuvered into a parking space nose first and could execute a hundred-and-eighty-degree turn so tightly that it would end up practically where it had started, facing the opposite direction. In Bridgeport, Connecticut, where the car was introduced in the summer of 1933, it caused such a sensation that gridlock followed, and anxious drivers implored Fuller to keep it off the streets at rush hour.
Fuller called his invention the Dymaxion Vehicle. He believed that it would not just revolutionize automaking but help bring about a wholesale reordering of modern life. Soon, Fuller thought, people would be living in standardized, prefabricated dwellings, and this, in turn, would allow them to occupy regions previously considered uninhabitable-the Arctic, the Sahara, the tops of mountains. The Dymaxion Vehicle would carry them to their new homes; it would be capable of travelling on the roughest roads and-once the technology for the requisite engines had been worked out-it would also (somehow) be able to fly. Fuller envisioned the Dymaxion taking off almost vertically, like a duck.
I for one hail our Dymaxion driving, geodesic dome dwelling overlords...
ebay just sent me this email with the subject "Important update: Delay to 17 June changes". Look what they're saying!
AN IMPORTANT UPDATE
As you may be aware, a number of changes were scheduled to come into effect on eBay.com.au on 17 June 2008.
Most of these changes have been delayed by almost one month and are now scheduled to commence on 15 July 2008.
PayPal Buyer Protection will still increase to $20,000 on 17 June 2008.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR YOU?
SELLING ON EBAY.COM.AU Current policies regarding accepted payment methods still apply. This means PayPal is required on all listings on eBay.com.au. Other payment methods (i.e. bank deposit, cheque/money order) may also be offered until 15 July 2008.
As previously communicated any listings that do not comply with eBay's Accepted Payments Policy will be removed. We strongly recommend that in order to ensure your listings comply with the Accepted Payments Policy you remove any details of payment methods other than PayPal or pay on pick up within the item description. Listings that have other payment methods offered within the payment options field will be allowed to expire as these options will not be displayed to buyers from 15 July 2008.
BUYING ON EBAY.COM.AU As mentioned PayPal Buyer Protection will still increase to $20,000 on 17 June 2008.
To ensure you benefit from PayPal's Buyer Protection Policy, eBay strongly recommends you use PayPal when paying for your purchases on eBay.com.au.
>From 15 July 2008 the available payment methods will be limited to PayPal, Visa/MasterCard, or pay on pick up. Please note that some of our onsite communications will still refer to changes taking place on 17 June 2008. These communications are being updated and should reflect the new date of 15 July 2008 within the coming days.
WHY ARE THESE CHANGES HAPPENING?
The decision to delay these changes was made by eBay following the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's (ACCC) draft notice issued on Thursday 12 June 2008.
eBay released a media statement on Friday 13 June regarding the ACCC's draft notice.
eBay will continue to fight for safety benefits for consumers
13 June 2008: eBay challenges yesterday's Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's (ACCC) draft notice and is disappointed that the ACCC's current view delays the opportunity to provide consumers a more secure way to shop on eBay.com.au with confidence.
eBay intends to work with the ACCC and hopes to achieve a final outcome which has the safety and security of eBay's members as its paramount objective. eBay will delay the removal of other payment methods from the site until Tuesday 15 July.
PayPal offers consumers a range of payment choices, including bank transfer and credit cards. It's a safer and easier online payment system that significantly enhances protection for eBay buyers and sellers.
eBay is pleased to confirm that PayPal buyer protection will jump to $20,000 on eBay.com.au for purchases paid for using PayPal from Tuesday 17 June.
eBay believes the consumer benefits of this initiative are worth fighting for on behalf of its buyers which will ultimately benefit sellers.
When you can see the news any moment, you expect the news every moment. When people read newspapers primarily, it was considered acceptable to not be up-to-date until the next day.
The next day?! It was only 132 years ago that the overland telegraph was completed from Adelaide(ish) to Darwin (only 3200km). Before the overland and undersea telegraphs, news would come via ship from England to Perth, Pt Augusta, then Sydney many months later.
When the telegraph to Sydney was completed (before the Darwin telegraph) reporters would travel to Perth, hop on the ship to write up their news stories, and then wire them to Sydney when they arrived in Pt Augusta. This would save a few weeks!
When the undersea cable was completed from Java to Darwin, the overland cable wasn't quite ready by a stretch of a few kms. To save the large penalties involved for late completion, horsemen would transcript the message to paper, ride the gap, and re-wire them the rest of the way!
Even with this uncompleted section, news times dropped from months to just days.
Fast forward a hundred or so years, to a small island in the Indian Ocean where I used to live in the early 90's. One weeks TV and news coverage would be recorded from the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) and then flown to the island for viewing the following week. When the plane was delayed due to weather etc. we would be without any news for a week. When it finally arrived we could choose whether to watch the oldest news first, or the latest news first. We'd often get news of a cyclone coming our way the week after it had passed!
Fast forward again to 9-11 as you mention, and my brother rang me up after the first "event". I turned on cable tv to watch the rest of it live from many different angles.
When Steve Irwin died, I got an SMS within minutes of the story breaking and I could confirm early reports minutes later on the internet.
What will we be complaining about in another 100 years?
Slashdot Mirror
This is a really interesting concept. Not only from the demanding perspective (eg earthquake, blizzard) but think of the planning possibilities.
If you add some metadata about the input (eg. a snow blocked road would be a requirement for clearance, and a snow plough would be a method of clearing) and a higher level system could start to organise resources accordingly, with or without human intervention.
Of course, a "humanitarian crisis" would have human involvement anyway, but think about traffic for example. Cars could send their current speed and location to a network that redistributed traffic in peak hour. This is more than just traffic avoidance, it's highway load balancing...
There are doubtless many more opportunities!
Benson and Stabler know where every perv in New York is located.
that's easy, every perv is in New York!
(just kidding ;)
I don't mean old as in "last week", this came up months ago, if not even pre 2009!
Not with cell phones, but some study was claiming to predict human location based on a study of your previous location, to a high degree of accuracy.
Now if I could just find the original link... I'm sure it was on slashdot...
Maybe you should pay some attention ;) The current generation of SSDs are all supporting some type of trimming.
I would expect the first generation of any technology to have issues. Don't write them off just because the first round was sub-optimal!
true, I shouldn't have written it like that.
Nor did we last time. Nobody understands the list it seems :) But your point was "people won't find out", not they "won't understand".
"...But about half of the sites on the list are not related to child porn and include a slew of online poker sites, YouTube links, regular gay and straight porn sites, Wikipedia entries, euthanasia sites, websites of fringe religions such as satanic sites, fetish sites, Christian sites, the website of a tour operator and even a Queensland dentist..."
(Sydney Morning Herald)
You'd just have to wait for the govt to let the list slip to the public, as they have done in the past.
From New Scientist:
In everyday terms, this energy isn't so great – a flying mosquito has about 1 TeV of kinetic energy. What makes the LHC so special is that this energy is concentrated in a region a thousand billion times smaller than a speck of dust.
... I'll remember that next time I squat a mosquito!
Hey, I live in Australia and therefore I resemble that remark...
Engage the Ion Thrusters, No. 1.
You make an interesting point, if not necessarily for sexbots...
Think of the Star Trek movie First Contact where Data gets feeling on his arm from the Borg - image what a difference this could make to a robot?!
Imagine not only touch sensitive fingers, but the ability to detect wind, or feel past objects such as trees or guage the movement of a crowd. For a robot that's pretty cool.
This has big implications for the robot industry. They shouldn't look like us, but they should be as functionally similar to us as possible (or better).
Are you having a laugh? 12 children specifically chosen because of their having a specific diagnosis in a population of >60 million people in the middle of a mass innoculation aren't diagnosed with a similar syndrome.
yes of course, and I think you meant "aren't"? A lack of ethics approval is different to a specific ethics committee disapproval (which appears what they got, for valid reasons).
Fixed that for you.
Seriously. You aren't claiming anything, you're just suggesting something that you are denying having said you even believe. So why are you saying anything at all?
wait, which one is the car?
*sigh* I'm not suggesting that MMR vaccine causes autism. This is my last post, if you guys don't get it then too bad.
I am saying "anything at all" because originally there was a comment
There is more anecdotal evidence to prove vaccines don't cause autism, so wouldn't that push the debate into being over, if anecdotal evidence is the measuring bar?
This comment in itself is wrong. Let's disengage the issue and analyse it. Paraphrasing:
"There is more anecdotal evidence to prove x doesn't cause y, so wouldn't that push the debate into being over, if anecdotal evidence is the measuring bar?"
Answer: No.
Reason: let there be a theory that f(x) = f(y) for all values of x. You could try and prove it by substituting numbers for x. You could show that thousands of values of x are consistent with your theory. This does not prove it.
You could find one value for which the theory does not hold. This does disprove it.
I am not saying that therefore the MMR - autism link is proven.
I am not saying that any child with autism who's had an MMR vaccine proves the link.
My original mistake was to use a personal anecdote in my post. I thought people might find it interesting. I'll take care not do to that in the future.
Goodbye.
I'd suggest looking up the mortality rates of the diseases you're failing to immunize against.
Negatory ghost rider. Statistics mean nothing to the individual, only to large groups. According to statistics, both my kids should have had Down Syndrome (from the scans) but neither of them have. That doesn't disprove the measurement theories for early detection of Down Syndrome, just that in my case we had 2 exceptions.
If he wants to ignore the vaccine, and go with the consequences, then that's up to him, so long as he accepts the consequences whatever they may be (including death).
Or its proof there was something else wrong with the person who took the vaccine and it was all coincidental that they showed symptoms after being vaccinated.
And you're telling me this because...?
Let me say it slowly: I. Agree. With. You.
I'm not drawing any links between MMR and Autism. I was just talking about proofs in and of themselves, nothing to do with MMR / autism.
The night before I showed symptoms of ALL, I had been playing with a late 1970s Han Solo blaster pistol in my uncle's unfinished basement. Dose that mean a toy gun, an unfinished basement and/or playing are linked to ALL?
If that's what you want to think, but that's going a bit far.
"Descending into autism" is an awfully broad term. It's sure as hell not scientific. Just right for anecdotal evidence really.
I'm not trying to use it as scientific evidence. I said "descending" because she wasn't diagnosed until much later, but the symptoms started then.
If you talk to autistic children's parents you'll find they often describe it as a descent. Changes don't happen immediately, or from birth, but they often reach a developmental point and then start going backwards, hence my use of the word
The scientific studies conducted over hundreds of thousands of people that showed no evidence that MMR caused autism may carry more weight than what your friends say.
Of course, but I never claimed to:
- be a scientist
- conduct studies
- believe the link between MMR and autism
I was previously talking about proofs. I used an example because I have a close relationship to the story.
me too, but that's my point which you might be missing. You can't take one healthy MMR-vaccinated person and prove that all MMR vaccine cases will never cause any side-effects.
It only takes one person with a side effect LINKED to the MMR vaccine to prove that they're all potentially dangerous. Note the link has to be well proven.
I'm not saying it is or isn't a good vaccine, I'm just talking about proofs.
What does that mean? And because the local ethics committee didn't approve it does that mean the results are invalid? (Granted assuming the tactics didn't skew the results, they could still be valid)
Sounds like mudslinging to defame them.
It did pass a previous investigation after all.
And now they're scaring parents who might want to research this issue by posting a picture of a young guy with mumps in the middle of the article...
FUD!
Nope, it doesn't work like that.
It only takes one exception to disprove a rule, but to prove a rule you need to prove it for all cases.
Friends of ours have a daughter who started descending into autism one week after the MMR vaccine.
However I think the larger issue here is the weakening of the human race - as we continue to vaccinate, use antibiotics, and fix defects with surgery, we're allowing weak genetic traits to propagate that would otherwise be bred out. Nevertheless I still get my kids vaccinated.
xinerama + xrandr does not solve the question posed by the OP.
Yes it does.
... or a separate screen on each monitor which does not allow moving windows between screens).
OP wants two monitors with their own separate workspaces,
Xinerama.
while still being able to drag windows between them.
Xinerama
In other words, OP wants to be able to transfer running applications between separate X screens,
No he doesn't. You implied separate X screens. The OP just wanted separate virtual desktop switching.
which to my knowledge is not currently possible (or, if it's possible, the functionality is not exposed in Gnome or KDE).
Xinerama
This isn't "+1 Insightful", it's "-1 Didn't bother reading the OP" (or "-1 Doesn't really know what xinerama+xrandr does").
There are two types of xinerama. X xinerama, and nvidia xinerama. nvidia's xinerama is provided so that nvidia twinview (which fools X into thinking you only have one monitor) doesn't make windows maximise across two screens and dialogs pop up in the centre. You can use the original X xinerama without using nvidia's twinview which gives you separate virtual desktops and everything the OP wants. X sees the two monitors and uses it's own xinerama.
xinerama is understood by metacity, compiz, wine, tvtime, mplayer, xscreensaver, and a whole host of other programs. Even if they don't, it's usually sufficient for the window manager to handle it.
FTA:
The first prototype of the Dymaxion Vehicle had been on the road for just three months when it crashed, near the entrance to the Chicago World's Fair; the driver was killed, and one of the passengers-a British aviation expert-was seriously injured. Eventually, it was revealed that another car was responsible for the accident, but only two more Dymaxion Vehicles were produced before production was halted, in 1934. Although Wikipedia claims "The cause of the accident was not determined, although Buckminster Fuller reported that the accident was due to the actions of another vehicle that had been closely following the Dymaxion."[1][2][1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_car
[2] http://shl.stanford.edu/Bucky/dymaxion/index.htm
For the article-reading-challenged:
One of Buckminster Fuller's earliest inventions was a car shaped like a blimp. The car had three wheels-two up front, one in the back-and a periscope instead of a rear window. Owing to its unusual design, it could be maneuvered into a parking space nose first and could execute a hundred-and-eighty-degree turn so tightly that it would end up practically where it had started, facing the opposite direction. In Bridgeport, Connecticut, where the car was introduced in the summer of 1933, it caused such a sensation that gridlock followed, and anxious drivers implored Fuller to keep it off the streets at rush hour.Fuller called his invention the Dymaxion Vehicle. He believed that it would not just revolutionize automaking but help bring about a wholesale reordering of modern life. Soon, Fuller thought, people would be living in standardized, prefabricated dwellings, and this, in turn, would allow them to occupy regions previously considered uninhabitable-the Arctic, the Sahara, the tops of mountains. The Dymaxion Vehicle would carry them to their new homes; it would be capable of travelling on the roughest roads and-once the technology for the requisite engines had been worked out-it would also (somehow) be able to fly. Fuller envisioned the Dymaxion taking off almost vertically, like a duck.
I for one hail our Dymaxion driving, geodesic dome dwelling overlords...ebay just sent me this email with the subject "Important update: Delay to 17 June changes". Look what they're saying!
AN IMPORTANT UPDATE
As you may be aware, a number of changes were scheduled to come into effect on eBay.com.au on 17 June 2008.
Most of these changes have been delayed by almost one month and are now scheduled to commence on 15 July 2008.
PayPal Buyer Protection will still increase to $20,000 on 17 June 2008.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR YOU?
SELLING ON EBAY.COM.AU
Current policies regarding accepted payment methods still apply. This means PayPal is required on all listings on eBay.com.au. Other payment methods (i.e. bank deposit, cheque/money order) may also be offered until 15 July 2008.
As previously communicated any listings that do not comply with eBay's Accepted Payments Policy will be removed. We strongly recommend that in order to ensure your listings comply with the Accepted Payments Policy you remove any details of payment methods other than PayPal or pay on pick up within the item description. Listings that have other payment methods offered within the payment options field will be allowed to expire as these options will not be displayed to buyers from 15 July 2008.
There are a small number of categories where PayPal is not mandatory. There are also some categories that do not qualify for PayPal Buyer and Seller Protection. Learn more about these excluded categories.
? http://mail.ebay.com.au/op/c/85246396a2II2bde88a16II18bd769II88015ff01f
BUYING ON EBAY.COM.AU
As mentioned PayPal Buyer Protection will still increase to $20,000 on 17 June 2008.
To ensure you benefit from PayPal's Buyer Protection Policy, eBay strongly recommends you use PayPal when paying for your purchases on eBay.com.au.
>From 15 July 2008 the available payment methods will be limited to PayPal, Visa/MasterCard, or pay on pick up.
Please note that some of our onsite communications will still refer to changes taking place on 17 June 2008. These communications are being updated and should reflect the new date of 15 July 2008 within the coming days.
WHY ARE THESE CHANGES HAPPENING?
The decision to delay these changes was made by eBay following the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's (ACCC) draft notice issued on Thursday 12 June 2008.
eBay released a media statement on Friday 13 June regarding the ACCC's draft notice.
The statement reads as follows:
ACCC draft notice undermines online consumer protection
eBay will continue to fight for safety benefits for consumers
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The next day?! It was only 132 years ago that the overland telegraph was completed from Adelaide(ish) to Darwin (only 3200km). Before the overland and undersea telegraphs, news would come via ship from England to Perth, Pt Augusta, then Sydney many months later.
When the telegraph to Sydney was completed (before the Darwin telegraph) reporters would travel to Perth, hop on the ship to write up their news stories, and then wire them to Sydney when they arrived in Pt Augusta. This would save a few weeks!
When the undersea cable was completed from Java to Darwin, the overland cable wasn't quite ready by a stretch of a few kms. To save the large penalties involved for late completion, horsemen would transcript the message to paper, ride the gap, and re-wire them the rest of the way!
Even with this uncompleted section, news times dropped from months to just days.
Fast forward a hundred or so years, to a small island in the Indian Ocean where I used to live in the early 90's. One weeks TV and news coverage would be recorded from the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) and then flown to the island for viewing the following week. When the plane was delayed due to weather etc. we would be without any news for a week. When it finally arrived we could choose whether to watch the oldest news first, or the latest news first. We'd often get news of a cyclone coming our way the week after it had passed!
Fast forward again to 9-11 as you mention, and my brother rang me up after the first "event". I turned on cable tv to watch the rest of it live from many different angles.
When Steve Irwin died, I got an SMS within minutes of the story breaking and I could confirm early reports minutes later on the internet.
What will we be complaining about in another 100 years?