My my, harsh words. Particularly from someone who doesn't quite grasp what "progress of... useful arts" is supposed to mean...
Human storytelling has ALWAYS been based on the past; most "new" stories play upon some older idea, maybe with some new twist. Completely fresh ideas are a rare thing.
The original copyright law (known as "the Statute of Anne", if you weren't aware of it) was written with this in mind. The idea is to protect your ideas in the short term, in order to encourage you to share these ideas, so that society can freely use them in the long term. This is the "progress" that passage you quoted refers to.
The main problem with modern copyright law is the massive inflation of that "short" term; now, by the time society gets to play with these ideas, they're either forgotten or irrelevant.
Does anyone else get the feeling that this dumbass troll doesn't quite grasp the concept that "Anonymous Coward" isn't a single person, but rather the label applied to anyone posting anonymously?
There is no DirectX on Linux and just look at how laughtable the situation is. Yeah theres nethack and some clone of Civilization 2 with worse graphics, but it's far from both console games and PC games that gamers play. It's a joke.
Don't blame the lack of DirectX for the lack of games on Linux. OpenGL works just fine on it, as it does on Windows.
And Mac, much to the delight of the four people who want to play games under OS X.
As far as getting rid of graphics APIs, yeah, that's exactly what we need: to go back in time fifteen years, and make devs write their games for every piece of graphics hardware under the sun. There's a damn good reason the industry started using them, and its still as relevant today as it was back then.
Did the telecoms that sued already provide some form of broadband access in those regions? Because the area TFA is talking about doesn't have any form of broadband AT ALL.
Are you honestly trying to argue that playing the game in an unintended way actually changes the game's genre? Does Doom become an RPG if I call myself an Elf and try to convince all the demons to stop being "naughty"?
Nice of you to not get the entire point I was trying to make, even after I explicitly stated it:
But that's a compatibility issue, not a control issue.
Apple restricting you to running only the apps they LET you is about control. Having to upgrade your firmware because an app you want to run uses newer features is about compatibility. The thread was about the CONTROL issue. The compatibility issue is a different, unrelated issue, and thus using it to argue the control issue is a blatant strawman.
If an app won't run on your HTC Android phone, it's not because Google or HTC won't let you, it's because the app's developer didn't make it work. You might as well compare Windows 3.1 to the iPhone's "walled garden", because it won't run 64 bit applications.
Except... wait... you DON'T have to install the firmware to run third party apps!
So long as the application supports the version of Android your phone is running, you can run any damn app you want. IF the app needs a newer version of the OS, and IF the manufacturer won't update the phone, then yeah, you'll need to install a third-party fireware, which WILL require rooting your phone. But that's a compatibility issue, not a control issue.
The G-G-GP's post was that the Android system will let you install any compatible app, include third-party app stores, that is compatible with the phone. Compare this to the iPhone, wherein you must jailbreak the thing to accomplish the same.
The GP post was a strawman, because he was substituting an argument about firmware in a discussion about applications. Installing unsigned firmware is not the same as installing apps that haven't run through some approval process.
Yes, because installing third party firmware is EXACTLY like installing applications, which is what the thread has been about.
YES, you need to root most Android phones in order to install third party firmware, such as CyanogenMod. NO, you do not need to root your Android phone in order to install apps that haven't been explicitly allowed by the phone's manufacturer, included alternative app stores.
Protip: Strawman arguments work significantly better when they aren't so bloody obvious.
To my knowledge, Turbine states that free players don't get customer support; they can post on the forums, but can't use the customer support system.
VIP players (aka, those who pay a subscription fee) get full customer support, and Premium players (those who have paid Turbine for something related to the game, at any point) get support for 30 days past the last time they bought Turbine Points.
Oh, please. Before you jump to conclusions based solely on your own gaming preferences, why don't you do some actual research before you declare that an entire genre is "dying".
To the contrary; if they hadn't, the PS3 would have had this kind of attention from these people from the beginning. By including Other OS, they placated them for quite some time.
Except that that sends a message to the publisher that the GP is willing to put up with the DRM, which he isn't. Part of the problem we're facing is just getting the right message across to the publishers.
If we buy it, whether we play the boxed version or the cracked version, all the publisher sees is another sale; the DRM is working!
If we don't buy it, whether we pirate it or not, the publisher sees lower sales; the pirates are killing our business!
Ether way, simply voting with our wallets here is not going to help. We need to be VOCAL about this. But if we buy their crap, they'll see us as a "vocal minority", since all the people who buy the game MUST be willing to accept their shitty DRM.
While I agree whole-heartedly on your views of copyright law, and have expressed pretty much the exact same arguments elsewhere, the sad fact is that the vast majority of so-called "pirates" don't even KNOW that copyright was supposed to be shorter, let alone CARE about it. They don't view it as "retaliation" against a corporation that is "screwing them over", because they don't even recognize that they ARE being screwed over. They download things because they don't care. They aren't involved with the people who create it, and (to their knowledge) they won't see any direct consequences to their actions, so it registers as someone else's problem.
In short, I'm saying that copyright law DOES desperately need to be fixed (including a return to shorter lengths, so things can actually still be RELEVANT when they enter public domain), but solving the copyright problem will have little to no affect on the "piracy" "problem".
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That would most certainly NOT be funny.
Now, if you were wearing a clown suit...
My my, harsh words. Particularly from someone who doesn't quite grasp what "progress of ... useful arts" is supposed to mean...
Human storytelling has ALWAYS been based on the past; most "new" stories play upon some older idea, maybe with some new twist. Completely fresh ideas are a rare thing.
The original copyright law (known as "the Statute of Anne", if you weren't aware of it) was written with this in mind. The idea is to protect your ideas in the short term, in order to encourage you to share these ideas, so that society can freely use them in the long term. This is the "progress" that passage you quoted refers to.
The main problem with modern copyright law is the massive inflation of that "short" term; now, by the time society gets to play with these ideas, they're either forgotten or irrelevant.
That they'll lose 1% of their customers, while charging the rest a hell of a lot more?
Troll moar plz.
Aww, copy-paste troll hurt my feelings.
Oh, wait, I don't give a crap about GOOD trolls, let alone shitty ones like you...
Carry on, idiot, carry on.
No, I'm pretty sure that's not the work of a bot; he's just that fucking retarded.
Does anyone else get the feeling that this dumbass troll doesn't quite grasp the concept that "Anonymous Coward" isn't a single person, but rather the label applied to anyone posting anonymously?
Only for very large values of 2.
Mod parent +1 Has a Fucking Clue.
There is no DirectX on Linux and just look at how laughtable the situation is. Yeah theres nethack and some clone of Civilization 2 with worse graphics, but it's far from both console games and PC games that gamers play. It's a joke.
Don't blame the lack of DirectX for the lack of games on Linux. OpenGL works just fine on it, as it does on Windows.
And Mac, much to the delight of the four people who want to play games under OS X.
As far as getting rid of graphics APIs, yeah, that's exactly what we need: to go back in time fifteen years, and make devs write their games for every piece of graphics hardware under the sun. There's a damn good reason the industry started using them, and its still as relevant today as it was back then.
Did the telecoms that sued already provide some form of broadband access in those regions? Because the area TFA is talking about doesn't have any form of broadband AT ALL.
You only have to satisfy one of the conditions, not all.
Are you honestly trying to argue that playing the game in an unintended way actually changes the game's genre? Does Doom become an RPG if I call myself an Elf and try to convince all the demons to stop being "naughty"?
That is true, but the original poster was discussing ONLINE multiplayer games, and the cheating that ruins them. i.e. MMOs.
You're... you're kidding me, right? Are you honestly confusing MASSIVELY multiplayer online games (MMOs) with online multiplayer games in general?
Here's a hint for you: World of Warcraft is an MMO. City of Heroes is an MMO. Lord of the Rings Online, also an MMO.
Call of Duty: Black Ops? Fuck no, that's just an online game.
Probably right next to my '-1 Vomiting' mod...
Nice of you to not get the entire point I was trying to make, even after I explicitly stated it:
But that's a compatibility issue, not a control issue.
Apple restricting you to running only the apps they LET you is about control. Having to upgrade your firmware because an app you want to run uses newer features is about compatibility. The thread was about the CONTROL issue. The compatibility issue is a different, unrelated issue, and thus using it to argue the control issue is a blatant strawman.
If an app won't run on your HTC Android phone, it's not because Google or HTC won't let you, it's because the app's developer didn't make it work. You might as well compare Windows 3.1 to the iPhone's "walled garden", because it won't run 64 bit applications.
Except... wait... you DON'T have to install the firmware to run third party apps!
So long as the application supports the version of Android your phone is running, you can run any damn app you want. IF the app needs a newer version of the OS, and IF the manufacturer won't update the phone, then yeah, you'll need to install a third-party fireware, which WILL require rooting your phone. But that's a compatibility issue, not a control issue.
The G-G-GP's post was that the Android system will let you install any compatible app, include third-party app stores, that is compatible with the phone. Compare this to the iPhone, wherein you must jailbreak the thing to accomplish the same.
The GP post was a strawman, because he was substituting an argument about firmware in a discussion about applications. Installing unsigned firmware is not the same as installing apps that haven't run through some approval process.
Yes, because installing third party firmware is EXACTLY like installing applications, which is what the thread has been about.
YES, you need to root most Android phones in order to install third party firmware, such as CyanogenMod. NO, you do not need to root your Android phone in order to install apps that haven't been explicitly allowed by the phone's manufacturer, included alternative app stores.
Protip: Strawman arguments work significantly better when they aren't so bloody obvious.
Italics work just fine. Perhaps you should stop using the deprecated <i> tag, and start using the <em> tag that replaced it.
The post also claims Fox is mainstream media. I don't believe that to be true at all.
Neither do I. I don't believe they're media at all.
To my knowledge, Turbine states that free players don't get customer support; they can post on the forums, but can't use the customer support system.
VIP players (aka, those who pay a subscription fee) get full customer support, and Premium players (those who have paid Turbine for something related to the game, at any point) get support for 30 days past the last time they bought Turbine Points.
Oh, please. Before you jump to conclusions based solely on your own gaming preferences, why don't you do some actual research before you declare that an entire genre is "dying".
You know, like asking Netcraft?
To the contrary; if they hadn't, the PS3 would have had this kind of attention from these people from the beginning. By including Other OS, they placated them for quite some time.
Except that that sends a message to the publisher that the GP is willing to put up with the DRM, which he isn't. Part of the problem we're facing is just getting the right message across to the publishers.
If we buy it, whether we play the boxed version or the cracked version, all the publisher sees is another sale; the DRM is working!
If we don't buy it, whether we pirate it or not, the publisher sees lower sales; the pirates are killing our business!
Ether way, simply voting with our wallets here is not going to help. We need to be VOCAL about this. But if we buy their crap, they'll see us as a "vocal minority", since all the people who buy the game MUST be willing to accept their shitty DRM.
While I agree whole-heartedly on your views of copyright law, and have expressed pretty much the exact same arguments elsewhere, the sad fact is that the vast majority of so-called "pirates" don't even KNOW that copyright was supposed to be shorter, let alone CARE about it. They don't view it as "retaliation" against a corporation that is "screwing them over", because they don't even recognize that they ARE being screwed over. They download things because they don't care. They aren't involved with the people who create it, and (to their knowledge) they won't see any direct consequences to their actions, so it registers as someone else's problem.
In short, I'm saying that copyright law DOES desperately need to be fixed (including a return to shorter lengths, so things can actually still be RELEVANT when they enter public domain), but solving the copyright problem will have little to no affect on the "piracy" "problem".