I am very certain that if all I had access to was 1Ghz with 512Mb RAM that I would find some way to make do... And yes I am a gamer, so I'm not gonna go into that side of requirements... but I have a gaming system that I use everyday for routine activities as well, 3Ghz, 2Gb ram, and I can tell you I very much notice the difference.
As humans we are creative enough to find more ways to use resources than we have resources to use... Thats why the next processor/mem/speed combination is never enough for very long. We find ways to expand until we are constrained by our resources.
my personal computer is so much better than these (2-3ghz?--system info applet is disabled)p4 512 ram that I actually almost always remote desktop into my own machine, and take the network latency hit because my current computer usage style swamps the systems my university provides.
Right now I have 11 explorer windows open, 2 e-mail, 4 messenger windows with one tabbed with 10 internal windows 4 firefox windows with no less than 8 pages open in each, 1 dos prompt, 2 ssh windows / filetransfer windows 5 notepadwindows 3 pdfs 2 visual studio windows
All of this just for my work (well minus some of the messenger windows). Then I also have a few random apps like skype, bittorrent and itunes, copernic desktop search as mentioned on slashdot, daemon tools and mcafee
Now minus the random crap at the end... all the rest is continuously active... + is my friend 1600x1200 is my pal -- sometime soon I'll be getting another monitor...
The point is that though office, e-mail and webbrowsing a single page all works perfectly fine on the baseline system, people will only be satisfied with the baseline for so long... people's usage habits change as the become accustomed to a certain technology... I wouldn't have started using this many programs if I had to still do it on a 400mhz as we moved up in systems I kept modifying my usage patterns such that after the initial newness of a system wears off I find myself at the limit of its capabilities...
I disagree with your thought that computers have hit that plateau. The car analogy is flawed in this case... I think that along with a gradual modification of the populace's general usage habits, more and more applications will be made available that need more resources. --This is happening already. With more resources available, people will think of more brilliant uses for those resources... AI problems and other complex problems will find more and more solutions in the available hardware... but that hardware will have to grow to fully take advantage of it...
Quick little blurb about skype... its an application for your computer, created by Sharman Networks, the people who brought you Kazaa in all its glory and shame. Its P2P software that encrypts and tunnels voice conversations generally at better quality than normal phone conversations. I first found skype about a year and a half ago... and have been using it since to make calls accross the US, and around the world. During this bit of time they built themselves a network and suddenly provided the service of allowing you to call normal phones from your computer... the price for using SkypeOut to call most locations on the globe is.02 Euro~dollars per minute. Very recently they came out with SkypeIn where you can have a phone number routed to your computer and a list of secondary locations... at will. Haven't used that one personally.
The only times where rate limiting degrades the performance to below same-room communication is when you add normal phone lines to the mix.
I was making a post where I was complaining that it was hard to believe the veracity of this article, until I saw the video, it was pretty damn cool, and now I can't wait for its big brother...
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dude... usually the password is tied to your university name... meaning that to access your transcript, financial data, and loans, you type in the same password as to get to your e-mail... if you forgot your password they wouldn't mail it to yourself (they don't keep other e-mails on file)
of course eGrades is different software, so conceivably they were smart enough to suggest a different password... conceivably...
The sad thing is that we kindof knew that... but they had an agreement where they got to update our software at will... we had already had a working version of software but they decided the needed to update ours. With a completely new I'm only assuming barely tested version, because it completely fried for awhile, and even released private data on 2 or 3 occasions. Privacy breech due to bad code... and the funny thing is that I heard that the company just recently got sent on a move to dissolve (Adobe, or Oracle, or Novell bought them (can't remember which) and decided to cut jobs in them. ALOT, a month or two back)
If you look closely and count the segments you should see that the middle segment is on the edge, since that is hooked and assuming the rest of the snake is equally weighted, on its own you should be able to balance it at that point... I don't really see why thay would only work if the head were heavier than the tail...
Guys... Slashdot wouldn't taken down umich... please let me know when this supposedly happened... I'm an engineer on campus and I've seen some of the servers... I use them every day for all my homework... engin.umich.edu and the various subservers are continuously connected to my desktop with ssh for the AFS serverspace as well as for compiling/running/writing my code for my Programming classes. Around exam time someone fucked up with the news-servers... they were switching them around and brought themselves down, Another time, part of eecs went down... (some of the hosts) some runaway processes started by too many instances of a grading script trying to catch too many e-mails of a class of 150 students of whom apparently more than half had submitted the debug folder of their Visual Studio Projects in directx to the script along with their source files making a bunch of 10 meg zips that were being extracted, built, and run (or attempted to run) until they were killed by timeout.
Finally a piece of lsa umich.edu went down lately because PeopleSoft supplied us with crappy server intensive webapplications for our class selection interface, and due to all the students attempting to simultaneously register for classes near exam times it went down...
Both engin and umich though are extremely stable. 200 liscences of UGNX2 are hosted on the servers. Uncounted licenses of matlab maple maya and a bunch of other programs are also hosted on these terminals
Beyond the normal software available to terminal users below I have attached a list of the extra packages I can add to use... all of these are server side, with X11 forwarding on many.
Fun random fact is that all the CAEN (Engineering Computers) reboot overnight if they're not in use, into linux, and run a distributed computing program.
Sorry about the formatting for the lameness filter
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What happens when a webserver crashed though... it would be trivial to put up a small machine with 302 redirects to a different domain where the content had been mirrored, while the original site is slowly rebuilt...
In fact assuming a site has an off location mirror or two, this would be an ideal solution, if the original site has multiple pieces of hardware that got taken offline catastrophically.
Too long. We people live in an instant feedback world. If its not instant gratification it loses interest... by the time they finished the title they stopped caring.
Oops post too long, you probably won't read this all.
I have actually seriously been curious about this... think about it... release a virus, have it build a botnet of X size, once net is of size X have it each bot copy stop scanning if it is considered part of a net, so network load drops sharply... the rest of the free bots each keep building new nets... everybot knows the location of a few central hub computers considered unlikely to be disconnected. Both because they belong to clueless user, and because they are on broadband, always on. Now there are clusters of botnets, that can easily be setup to request Virusscanner software updates (from a patched source) or OS updates from microsoft final result: possibly a 50,000 computer beowulf (albeit with broadband interconnects) or whatever size is deemed most efficient...
Think about it... Scientists paying a subscription fee to a virus writing group, because they have the most parallel computer in the world, and have started selling access.
I've had that problem...
Randomly recently, I googled my father, and found some articles he had authored in post-doc work, with his mentor/professor and someone else who's name I did not know... I tried to access the article unfortunately the publication had only the listing of the articles of its back volumes online, and even that seemed partially incomplete...
Its sad... unless I can find that article some day in the future in our things... I may never get to read the paper... its the kindof thing that can get too easily lost among one's personal things after 20 years... moving from state to state and country to country...
LOL that would be hilarious as hell
I wish I had the money and the creditability to set up a read-only root for a hacking contest.
Offer my 50% rights to the patent that will come out of figuring out how to write to read only media.
My friend, I do believe you are mistaken the organisms who have most changed the world, are invisible to the naked eye... Bacterium and other tiny organisms, all the way up to insects account for more consumption of energy and production of C02 than people:)
The issue here is that we modify the environment at times purely wastefully, without a direct link to our need to live. This is the needless push we have towards global warming.
Have a good day!
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how would the computer learn that the person was attempting to be random... in all probability its designed to look for patterns... so the human would just be spitting out signs that match a set pattern, maybe based off past choices, and given enough sample data, the computer will find a pattern, even if its not neccessarily a pattern the person thought they were following
My definite bottleneck at times is a mix, but mostly the keyboard... I used to find that I would have to wait until I finished typing a full word, before thinking much about what to write next... meaning, the thinking wouldn't start until the typing had stopped, of course that rapidly changed now, and so w/ the dvorak layout I can type and stare off into space thinking at the same time (note: I'm not saying you can't do this on qwerty, But I personally have noticed great speed increases since I changed over to Dvorak last may)
Most Games I have found are intelligent and allow you to use the dvorak mappings...
which are,aoe for wasd
but this joke of a keyboard is something else... lol.
lol... yeah... I've more and more I've been feeling those chopsticks... Every time I have to fix someone's computer for them I have to spend a few extra minutes rewiring my brain to help them out...
On the bright side, its not much of a problem commonly when I am not at my room because as I am on the University of Michigan Campus, the network is pretty fast, and so whenever I need to work in a computer lab (free printing for engineers - CSE) (something that occurs commonly for those wonderful group programming projects) I just remote connect to my desktop, and the keyboard layout follows...
Slashdot Mirror
Don't laugh, I've done that... A short time after, I started using firefox, and even I couldn't visit that part of my site.
I am very certain that if all I had access to was 1Ghz with 512Mb RAM that I would find some way to make do... And yes I am a gamer, so I'm not gonna go into that side of requirements... but I have a gaming system that I use everyday for routine activities as well, 3Ghz, 2Gb ram, and I can tell you I very much notice the difference.
;) )
As humans we are creative enough to find more ways to use resources than we have resources to use... Thats why the next processor/mem/speed combination is never enough for very long. We find ways to expand until we are constrained by our resources.
my personal computer is so much better than these (2-3ghz?--system info applet is disabled)p4 512 ram that I actually almost always remote desktop into my own machine, and take the network latency hit because my current computer usage style swamps the systems my university provides.
Right now I have 11 explorer windows open, 2 e-mail, 4 messenger windows with one tabbed with 10 internal windows 4 firefox windows with no less than 8 pages open in each, 1 dos prompt, 2 ssh windows / filetransfer windows 5 notepadwindows 3 pdfs 2 visual studio windows
All of this just for my work (well minus some of the messenger windows). Then I also have a few random apps like skype, bittorrent and itunes, copernic desktop search as mentioned on slashdot, daemon tools and mcafee
Now minus the random crap at the end... all the rest is continuously active... + is my friend 1600x1200 is my pal -- sometime soon I'll be getting another monitor...
The point is that though office, e-mail and webbrowsing a single page all works perfectly fine on the baseline system, people will only be satisfied with the baseline for so long... people's usage habits change as the become accustomed to a certain technology... I wouldn't have started using this many programs if I had to still do it on a 400mhz as we moved up in systems I kept modifying my usage patterns such that after the initial newness of a system wears off I find myself at the limit of its capabilities...
I disagree with your thought that computers have hit that plateau. The car analogy is flawed in this case... I think that along with a gradual modification of the populace's general usage habits, more and more applications will be made available that need more resources. --This is happening already. With more resources available, people will think of more brilliant uses for those resources... AI problems and other complex problems will find more and more solutions in the available hardware... but that hardware will have to grow to fully take advantage of it...
(my $0.02 for yours
Quick little blurb about skype... its an application for your computer, created by Sharman Networks, the people who brought you Kazaa in all its glory and shame. Its P2P software that encrypts and tunnels voice conversations generally at better quality than normal phone conversations. I first found skype about a year and a half ago... and have been using it since to make calls accross the US, and around the world. During this bit of time they built themselves a network and suddenly provided the service of allowing you to call normal phones from your computer... the price for using SkypeOut to call most locations on the globe is .02 Euro~dollars per minute. Very recently they came out with SkypeIn where you can have a phone number routed to your computer and a list of secondary locations... at will. Haven't used that one personally.
The only times where rate limiting degrades the performance to below same-room communication is when you add normal phone lines to the mix.
http://skype.net
I was making a post where I was complaining that it was hard to believe the veracity of this article, until I saw the video, it was pretty damn cool, and now I can't wait for its big brother...
Bad Credit? Call 1-800-... Do you want free Software?... Cheep XP... Website Rankings... Computer Infected with Spyware... Install_this_plugin_from_Precision_Date_Services.. .
dude... usually the password is tied to your university name... meaning that to access your transcript, financial data, and loans, you type in the same password as to get to your e-mail... if you forgot your password they wouldn't mail it to yourself (they don't keep other e-mails on file) of course eGrades is different software, so conceivably they were smart enough to suggest a different password... conceivably...
You lie! I followed the link and got lost and had to click "Home" to get back here. No Slashdot in those results.
The sad thing is that we kindof knew that... but they had an agreement where they got to update our software at will... we had already had a working version of software but they decided the needed to update ours. With a completely new I'm only assuming barely tested version, because it completely fried for awhile, and even released private data on 2 or 3 occasions. Privacy breech due to bad code... and the funny thing is that I heard that the company just recently got sent on a move to dissolve (Adobe, or Oracle, or Novell bought them (can't remember which) and decided to cut jobs in them. ALOT, a month or two back)
If you look closely and count the segments you should see that the middle segment is on the edge, since that is hooked and assuming the rest of the snake is equally weighted, on its own you should be able to balance it at that point... I don't really see why thay would only work if the head were heavier than the tail...
Hehe, I am sleeping on the "phat pipe" its fun. :) very warm. about body temperature.
Guys... Slashdot wouldn't taken down umich... please let me know when this supposedly happened... I'm an engineer on campus and I've seen some of the servers... I use them every day for all my homework... engin.umich.edu and the various subservers are continuously connected to my desktop with ssh for the AFS serverspace as well as for compiling/running/writing my code for my Programming classes. Around exam time someone fucked up with the news-servers... they were switching them around and brought themselves down, Another time, part of eecs went down... (some of the hosts) some runaway processes started by too many instances of a grading script trying to catch too many e-mails of a class of 150 students of whom apparently more than half had submitted the debug folder of their Visual Studio Projects in directx to the script along with their source files making a bunch of 10 meg zips that were being extracted, built, and run (or attempted to run) until they were killed by timeout.
,AIX 43. Jack HP,SGI 44. Java ,HP 45. Khoros,SGI,AIX 46. LCLint 47. Labview 48. Lynx 49. Lyx 50. MCNP ,Solaris,HP 51. MPI 52. Mach TA *53. Maple ,SGI,AIX,X86 54. Math All 55. MathematicaAll*56. Matlab 57. MatrixX ,Solaris,HP*58. Maya Linux 59. Mentor AMS 60. Mentor DFT 61. Mentor ICFlow 62. Modelsim ,Windows 63. NAG HP,, Linux 64. NASTRAN 65. NCAR Graphics 66. Nanosim *67. Netscape/Mozilla 68. Opnet 69. Oracle,IBM 70. PV-WAVE 71. Pathmill 72. PatranHP 73. Pico , HP 74. Pine All 75. Primepower 76. Pro/Engineer 77. Purify 78. RDesktop 79. Raphael 80. RealAudio/RealVideo 81. SYNOPSYS 82. Saber 83. Silicon Ensemble 84. Splint 85. Star-RCXT *86. StarOffice , Linux 87. Surfacer 88. TDI IBM 89. TDS 90. TeX 91. TecPlot 92. TetraMax *93. Unigraphics 94. VCS 95. Wordperfect*96. XEmacsHP, 97. XFig ,DEC*98. XMMS
Finally a piece of lsa umich.edu went down lately because PeopleSoft supplied us with crappy server intensive webapplications for our class selection interface, and due to all the students attempting to simultaneously register for classes near exam times it went down...
Both engin and umich though are extremely stable.
200 liscences of UGNX2 are hosted on the servers.
Uncounted licenses of matlab maple maya and a bunch of other programs are also hosted on these terminals
Beyond the normal software available to terminal users below I have attached a list of the extra packages I can add to use... all of these are server side, with X11 forwarding on many.
Fun random fact is that all the CAEN (Engineering Computers) reboot overnight if they're not in use, into linux, and run a distributed computing program.
Sorry about the formatting for the lameness filter
1. ABAQUS 2. ADAMS 3. AMPL 4. ANSOFT 5. ANSYS 6. APPLIX 7. ARC/INFO 8. ARC/VIEW 9. AUTO 10. AVS 11. Allegro Common Lisp 12. Aspen Plus 13. CERIUSHP,SGI 14. COVENTORWARE 15. CPLEX 16. CVS 17. Cadence IC 18. Cadence LDV 19. Calibre *20. DDD *21. EXPLORER HP,,SGI,Linux 22. Emacs All 23. Exmh All 24. FEMLABHP, 25. FLUENTHP, 26. Formality 27. FrameMaker *28. GAIM All*29. GNU Compilers/Utils All 30. GambitAll 31. Gnuplot 32. HP ADS 33. HP-UX 10.20/11.00 Compiler Opti HP 34. HSPICE 35. Hercules *36. Hypermesh *37. I-DEAS 38. ICCAP 39. IDL 40. IMSL 41. Insure++ 42. Island Software
What happens when a webserver crashed though... it would be trivial to put up a small machine with 302 redirects to a different domain where the content had been mirrored, while the original site is slowly rebuilt...
In fact assuming a site has an off location mirror or two, this would be an ideal solution, if the original site has multiple pieces of hardware that got taken offline catastrophically.
Your suggestion would fry these sites.
Too long. We people live in an instant feedback world. If its not instant gratification it loses interest... by the time they finished the title they stopped caring.
Oops post too long, you probably won't read this all.
I have actually seriously been curious about this... think about it... release a virus, have it build a botnet of X size, once net is of size X have it each bot copy stop scanning if it is considered part of a net, so network load drops sharply... the rest of the free bots each keep building new nets... everybot knows the location of a few central hub computers considered unlikely to be disconnected. Both because they belong to clueless user, and because they are on broadband, always on. Now there are clusters of botnets, that can easily be setup to request Virusscanner software updates (from a patched source) or OS updates from microsoft final result: possibly a 50,000 computer beowulf (albeit with broadband interconnects) or whatever size is deemed most efficient... Think about it... Scientists paying a subscription fee to a virus writing group, because they have the most parallel computer in the world, and have started selling access.
I've had that problem... Randomly recently, I googled my father, and found some articles he had authored in post-doc work, with his mentor/professor and someone else who's name I did not know... I tried to access the article unfortunately the publication had only the listing of the articles of its back volumes online, and even that seemed partially incomplete... Its sad... unless I can find that article some day in the future in our things... I may never get to read the paper... its the kindof thing that can get too easily lost among one's personal things after 20 years... moving from state to state and country to country...
yeah, but if they tell slashdot that it has an ftp server, it will be instant martian rover-toast!
LOL that would be hilarious as hell I wish I had the money and the creditability to set up a read-only root for a hacking contest. Offer my 50% rights to the patent that will come out of figuring out how to write to read only media.
No, No, you saw what they meant to type, its just yet another speeling error
free hardware is always welcome. Send me a Mac Mini, a Salina, and while you're at it, I need to write some reviews...
Sorry, I have to say that U of M's car is gonna be winning... my roommate is gonna be a driver, and the mechanics of the car are amazing...
My friend, I do believe you are mistaken the organisms who have most changed the world, are invisible to the naked eye... Bacterium and other tiny organisms, all the way up to insects account for more consumption of energy and production of C02 than people :)
The issue here is that we modify the environment at times purely wastefully, without a direct link to our need to live. This is the needless push we have towards global warming.
Have a good day!
how would the computer learn that the person was attempting to be random... in all probability its designed to look for patterns... so the human would just be spitting out signs that match a set pattern, maybe based off past choices, and given enough sample data, the computer will find a pattern, even if its not neccessarily a pattern the person thought they were following
My definite bottleneck at times is a mix, but mostly the keyboard... I used to find that I would have to wait until I finished typing a full word, before thinking much about what to write next... meaning, the thinking wouldn't start until the typing had stopped, of course that rapidly changed now, and so w/ the dvorak layout I can type and stare off into space thinking at the same time (note: I'm not saying you can't do this on qwerty, But I personally have noticed great speed increases since I changed over to Dvorak last may)
Most Games I have found are intelligent and allow you to use the dvorak mappings... which are ,aoe for wasd
but this joke of a keyboard is something else... lol.
lol... yeah... I've more and more I've been feeling those chopsticks... Every time I have to fix someone's computer for them I have to spend a few extra minutes rewiring my brain to help them out... On the bright side, its not much of a problem commonly when I am not at my room because as I am on the University of Michigan Campus, the network is pretty fast, and so whenever I need to work in a computer lab (free printing for engineers - CSE) (something that occurs commonly for those wonderful group programming projects) I just remote connect to my desktop, and the keyboard layout follows...