M$ is making a big boo boo for a lot of reasons, a big one is that with constant updates to anti piracy measures(even more so then XP I am sure) the community will pull even closer together and become far more effient. Right now I can usually get a crack within minutes of its release(As can anyone with a decent torrent site/anyone that trolls around in IRC channels). It can take them weeks to make the crack, make sure it doesn't break everything.. etc etc
Takes a person a hundreth of the time to hit it off.
They need to adopt redhat's approach IMO. Offer some kind of Windows Support program, a phone line to answer retarded windows questions for old people. Then just sell the OS for say 80$ or something..
Wow man..
Just fix there crap and give it back like the real of us.. if you want to deal with 5x increased phone volume because people don't understand where there beloved Windows Icon went.. thats your business..
Don't bring it to slashdot and give other tech's the ideas please. The last thing I want is more jack asses coming and going "My thingy dun work bad now! Fix it good!" and then I hit on, and its fucking Linux. Then they want there *exact* distro back.. and all there hardware installed. Its a PITA.
Just curios RoboOp..
do YOU speak to the people in Iraq? If so, you'd relize there not actually that upset we are there right now. There heavily annoyed in most parts of Iraq, but they understand why. Yes there patience is growing thin.. and yes, people in the shittiest parts of iraq are just angry in general.. but the rest of it isn't that mad we are there.
In the end, the victors write the history.. and we won, so stop being a dick head and just agree with history:
We did the right thing, nothing went wrong.
I've been there before, too many times to count. I've found a few things help a lot. The first and most important thing is to stop being nice to them. I know it sounds like a bad idea, but a lot of the time they think its a "buddy buddy" kind of deal. Show up, complain the whole time about how *they* are breaking everything, and leave with a nice bill waiting for them. At my work we constalty find ourselves over charging customers that are far too needy. People don't like bringing it for every little problem if they know its gonna cost them at least 100$ to get it fixed. Also, when they call you be sure to tell them your going to need to take there computer to your workshop, or that the server will be down for several days while you do maintence. Then simply take your sweet time.
People constantly think we have magic wands to fix everything, so just make sure they know we don't.
Also, add 50$ to whatever your charging them. Same thing next month, etc etc. You'll get extra income, and reduce "naggers"
Ok.. now in my experience(7 years, UO, EQ, SB, SWG, WOW), I can honestly say hero's exist in the game. Quiet often actually.
Examples? I play in normal guilds, thats right! Normal ones. I'm one of the very few guildies of mine that know about slashdot, or many other websites for that matter. Most I know found out about WOW from a video game magazine or such. Oddly enough, quiet a few people use the internet for IM, email, and very little else. These are my guildies, and they have hero's.
They have people who they call in when things are bad, people who come in, and completly "r0x0r +h3 n00bs" left and right. Its simple for those people too, there either a few levels higher, better equiped, or just plain smarter. They have respect. See thats why a MMORPG really comes down to.
You can have respect for someone. THere people remeber, they socially interact with you. The chat bar is the reason the game frigen exists. It is NOT to play with "really fucking good AI" thats actually just people. Its all about the chat bar, if you don't spend at least a quarter of your time chatting, your missing out. Example. Last night, I took my hunter to Iron Forge for the first time. I wanted a new bow. I wasn't too sure on the path(as I did not check it out online.), but I looked at the map, and guessed. I then asked my guildies and people at the docks and birdy docks. They gave me some decent ideas about how to get there. I found a priest also going. We both went, I was leading. I was close, and in a serious of tunnels through the mountains and saw a dwarf a level younger then I. I stopped briefly, offered him some food(he was low on health), and asked him if this was the way to IF(Iron Forge), he said "Aye! It is, just go through these tunnels, you'll exit out, follow the road signs and paths. Its not too far."
Thats what a MMORPG is about. The freedom to do the ONE thing single player games can NEVER do.
TALK TO PEOPLE. Look at how cool I was there. I asked a person for directions. OH WOW! I'm uber.
Oh wait, thats not why the game exists. Sure, its really fun to be the "guild bad-ass" and such, but its also fun to be the "guild's bad ass's annoying little brother" for a while. Play with people for a while and you have tactics together. And stories, and a history. Then its YOUR game.
You made history, you made stories, you can make quests. The quest? Simple.
New guildie, hes your level, got good gear. But he isn't part of your guild really yet, hes not in with the people. So whats the quest?? Meet you guys in Iron Forge, fire some fireworks off in the middle of a PVP battle because its mildly amusing. Or to run around in the enemies territory and scare em crap less.
Never kill them. Just scare them
Things like that are fun, the freedom parts. Too often I find people whining "Everquest was SO boring, it was just level level level."
Odd, I don't remeber Verant putting a vice-grip on your nuts and demanding that. After level 30, a lot of VERY intresting areas are there. Examples? The rogue race to the center The third gate in neriak. Good look with the ghoul. No killing it remeber.
Oh well, these are geeks.. not always the most creative:P
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M$ is making a big boo boo for a lot of reasons, a big one is that with constant updates to anti piracy measures(even more so then XP I am sure) the community will pull even closer together and become far more effient. Right now I can usually get a crack within minutes of its release(As can anyone with a decent torrent site/anyone that trolls around in IRC channels). It can take them weeks to make the crack, make sure it doesn't break everything.. etc etc
Takes a person a hundreth of the time to hit it off.
They need to adopt redhat's approach IMO. Offer some kind of Windows Support program, a phone line to answer retarded windows questions for old people. Then just sell the OS for say 80$ or something..
Who cares if it launches at 2000g's.. Is it windows compatiable?
Its true.. how dare the American goverment try and influence other countries! Those bastards! ..Oh wait, we need there help?
We love you America.
Repost Do the posters even read slashdot?
Wow man.. Just fix there crap and give it back like the real of us.. if you want to deal with 5x increased phone volume because people don't understand where there beloved Windows Icon went.. thats your business.. Don't bring it to slashdot and give other tech's the ideas please. The last thing I want is more jack asses coming and going "My thingy dun work bad now! Fix it good!" and then I hit on, and its fucking Linux. Then they want there *exact* distro back.. and all there hardware installed. Its a PITA.
Your probaly one of those proffessor's who doesn't notice his kids cheating BA ZING! Kthxsbye.
Nice repost /.
Can we get some frigen posters that actually read the website and know whats already been posted?
Just curios RoboOp.. do YOU speak to the people in Iraq? If so, you'd relize there not actually that upset we are there right now. There heavily annoyed in most parts of Iraq, but they understand why. Yes there patience is growing thin.. and yes, people in the shittiest parts of iraq are just angry in general.. but the rest of it isn't that mad we are there. In the end, the victors write the history.. and we won, so stop being a dick head and just agree with history: We did the right thing, nothing went wrong.
Man what the hell /.? I mean there stupid.. like telling us that the sun came up today.
Then there is this crap.
This is ground breaking news!
Kids in highschool, think copying *IS OK*
Oh my.. let the teachers know as soon as possible, gotta watch them for copying during tests too!
o_O
Damn damn dirty americans!
Didn't they see the movie?! apes came from MEN! BUT! Only after men came from apes..
Christ.
This was cool when I first read it 2 years ago..
I've been there before, too many times to count. I've found a few things help a lot. The first and most important thing is to stop being nice to them. I know it sounds like a bad idea, but a lot of the time they think its a "buddy buddy" kind of deal. Show up, complain the whole time about how *they* are breaking everything, and leave with a nice bill waiting for them. At my work we constalty find ourselves over charging customers that are far too needy. People don't like bringing it for every little problem if they know its gonna cost them at least 100$ to get it fixed. Also, when they call you be sure to tell them your going to need to take there computer to your workshop, or that the server will be down for several days while you do maintence. Then simply take your sweet time.
People constantly think we have magic wands to fix everything, so just make sure they know we don't.
Also, add 50$ to whatever your charging them. Same thing next month, etc etc. You'll get extra income, and reduce "naggers"
Ok.. now in my experience(7 years, UO, EQ, SB, SWG, WOW), I can honestly say hero's exist in the game. Quiet often actually. Examples? I play in normal guilds, thats right! Normal ones. I'm one of the very few guildies of mine that know about slashdot, or many other websites for that matter. Most I know found out about WOW from a video game magazine or such. Oddly enough, quiet a few people use the internet for IM, email, and very little else. These are my guildies, and they have hero's. They have people who they call in when things are bad, people who come in, and completly "r0x0r +h3 n00bs" left and right. Its simple for those people too, there either a few levels higher, better equiped, or just plain smarter. They have respect. See thats why a MMORPG really comes down to. You can have respect for someone. THere people remeber, they socially interact with you. The chat bar is the reason the game frigen exists. It is NOT to play with "really fucking good AI" thats actually just people. Its all about the chat bar, if you don't spend at least a quarter of your time chatting, your missing out. Example. Last night, I took my hunter to Iron Forge for the first time. I wanted a new bow. I wasn't too sure on the path(as I did not check it out online.), but I looked at the map, and guessed. I then asked my guildies and people at the docks and birdy docks. They gave me some decent ideas about how to get there. I found a priest also going. We both went, I was leading. I was close, and in a serious of tunnels through the mountains and saw a dwarf a level younger then I. I stopped briefly, offered him some food(he was low on health), and asked him if this was the way to IF(Iron Forge), he said "Aye! It is, just go through these tunnels, you'll exit out, follow the road signs and paths. Its not too far." Thats what a MMORPG is about. The freedom to do the ONE thing single player games can NEVER do. TALK TO PEOPLE. Look at how cool I was there. I asked a person for directions. OH WOW! I'm uber. Oh wait, thats not why the game exists. Sure, its really fun to be the "guild bad-ass" and such, but its also fun to be the "guild's bad ass's annoying little brother" for a while. Play with people for a while and you have tactics together. And stories, and a history. Then its YOUR game. You made history, you made stories, you can make quests. The quest? Simple. New guildie, hes your level, got good gear. But he isn't part of your guild really yet, hes not in with the people. So whats the quest?? Meet you guys in Iron Forge, fire some fireworks off in the middle of a PVP battle because its mildly amusing. Or to run around in the enemies territory and scare em crap less. Never kill them. Just scare them Things like that are fun, the freedom parts. Too often I find people whining "Everquest was SO boring, it was just level level level." Odd, I don't remeber Verant putting a vice-grip on your nuts and demanding that. After level 30, a lot of VERY intresting areas are there. Examples? The rogue race to the center The third gate in neriak. Good look with the ghoul. No killing it remeber. Oh well, these are geeks.. not always the most creative :P