The saving in question was made by choosing to switch to Linux rather than an NT derived alternative, demonstrating the saving that [in this case] Linux brings over Windows.
Slackware occupies a niche - that of the most UN*X-like GNU/Linux, people who want that will continue to use Slack.
And just cos a couple of apps are no longer going to be developed, the distro doesn't end. It'll keep on going for as long as the project developers want to, simple as that.
[Disclaimer: I don't use Red Hat, I use a certain other distro, for whom I used to work, but...]
Just cos you don't like Red Hat's choices, doesn't make them bad, remember, Free Software is about choices...
a journaling system tacked on to the old ext2 system
Yes, it is, but that sort of makes it easier to migrate to (and revert from!). I personally use Reiser, but I recognise the benefit of ext3.
any rational reason for choosing GNOME over KDE2
Some people prefer it! I am one of them (and there are a lot of us...) And when RH fund GNOME development, it stands to reason that they'll use it as the default desktop. SuSE fund KDE and lo and behold it's SuSE's default. (and other distros choose one way or the other) You don't have to use the default, make your own choice - you choose KDE2, fine, it's a great desktop just don't moan about GNOME, ok?)
Nautilus is dead
No, Eazel is dead, and Nautilus has gone through at least two revisions since then, and is being ported to GNOME2 - that's the great thing about Free Software - it outlives any company if it's good, and Nautilus is goooood! (I don't use it - not enough memory, but hey, it's all about choice innit?)
type in a URL...fire up the appropriate program
GNOME does this too oddly, oh, and it does have a great browser in Galeon.
So, just because you don't use RH doesn't make it any less news. This is a significant revision (remember, noone uses a RedHat version line until x.2 if they have any sense;-)
From the document:
we need to develop a schedule that converges on a stable, useful release in at most five milestones, preferably fewer (but likely no fewer than four).
Now, milestones tend to appear every 4 - 5 weeks, so that would be 16 - 25 weeks time (4 - 6 months)
From the document:
If things go well, we'll be within a milestone of 1.0 after 0.9.9. If 1.0 seems to continually recede as we approach it, our definition of 1.0 in terms of bugs to be fixed is broken. Therefore we will continually review the schedule and the outstanding bugs. If it takes an extra milestone (0.9.10), but 1.0 is reached soon enough, so be it -- but no one should count on an extra milestone. There won't be two or more extra milestones, or again, we will have failed to converge on a short-term stability branch and release within six months.
That's pretty well what GNOME's bug-buddy is, if you file a bug report using that, it goes into the GNOME bugzilla, and is filed under your email address if you've registered with it.
I think it could interface to other bugzillas with a recompile...
I wouldn't say this is idle chatter, this is actually about people's jobs and work. People are paid to design and make hard drives and other equipment. Other people are paid to make sure their companies have the best equipment, and still more are paid to install and maintain that equipment.
Terrorists have struck at a potent symbol of commerce, and to retreat into a shell o not talking about anything else is a minor victory for them. Stories that relate to people working therefore are (IMHO) a very good thing.
The Taleban have said that Osama Bin-Laden could not have been involved in this (BBC News 24)
Remember that groups with an interest here are at some point going to be queuing up to claim responsibility (the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine already have - CBS MarketWatch) so use a small pinch of salt for that one...
My understanding for quite some time had been that current theory was that there was a super-massive black hole at the centre of every galaxy, and in fact that they were required for the formation of galaxies...
This is good news (and on the same day as beta 2 of Evolution - who said the Linux desktop was dead?)
I use Galeon, but until there's a Moz 0.9.3 optimised release I've decided to use Moz again for a while, and I honestly can't get over how much faster this release is to start and to render than 0.9.2!
Also seems to be using less memory (based on my unscientific approach of looking at my bubblemon_applet) which has to be a good thing.
It's also nice to be able to upgrade version without it killing my chromes. Even skypilot is running fast.
So, the race is on - what'll reach 1.0 first, Mozilla or Evolution?:)
The only version of Windows I ever bought was an OEM Win '95c way back in the day, but on my bookcase in my home office are Red Hat 4.0, 5.1, 6.[something - can't remember] and SuSE 6.3, 6.4, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2.
The important thing to note is that we do not *have* to buy these (we could just FTP them), we *choose* to do so.
Why do we choose to? Simple - Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake, etc, etc are part of the GNU/Linux community. The pay people to contribute code to projects and software we all use (eg SuSE heavily fund XFree86 and ALSA development). So we buy their products to support them.
It's similar in a way to buying shares in a company (but without the post-IPO dotCom blues) that you believe in.
I want to make it clear before saying what I'm about to say that I don't like the idea of the US building this system, I think it will serve to strengthen it's position as more that the policeman of the world, but as police, court, judge, jury and executioner. (You want to see a rogue state? There's one wedged between Canada and Mexico! "You don't agree with us? Well then we'll break you economically, probably invade you if we think you're worth it, and generally make life as difficult for you as you can imagine, and maybe more so.")
But I was very very impressed to hear that this test worked! Sure, out of four carried out so far, this is only the second to work, but to hit one missile with another at the sort of range is an impressive technological feat in my book.
So, ummm, nice one George, you've proved it can be done, now go back to looking for Hawaii, there's a good chap.
This is a real shame for the handheld market. Psion were leaders in this industry (in the UK at least, where for ages they basically owned the market, without the need for StrongARM [ahem] tactics).
Psion machines exude quality at all levels, the clam-shell cases are masterpieces of engineering, the satisfying slide as they open really does have to be felt to be believed, and EPOC is without a doubt a killer OS. (It's my #2 favorite, closely followed by whatever the Spectrum ran was called). There is no better way to idle the time away while sat on a train or bus than a quick game of Cascade on my Revo (that's one of the original ones, not the RevoPlus) or rattling off a few thoughts in the jotter or word processor.
That leads nicely to the keyboard, I never cease to be impressed at how easy it is to type on such a small keyboard, and sitting in a coffee house with a huge cappucino that dwarfs the computer you're furtively typing away at results in the most amazing puzzled looks from other caffeine consumers.
I'm just very, very glad that EPOC will continue in the form of the Symbian partnership, and that Psion will no doubt emerge as leaders in whatever is the next big growth area. If they could make the jump from the producer of some of the greatest computer games of the early 80's to producer of the best handhelds, I am sure they will be one of the best at whatever they next turn their collective hands to.
250 jobs lost is always a tragedy, I just hope that the people concerned find that with the skills they have, they are able to find alternative employment very soon.
This is such big news it was mentioned on the BBC's Breakfast News programme this morning!
Jeremy Bowen read out the URL so that people could see while it's still there, and nearly ran out of breath! How good it is that a legend like CoffeeCam (ahem) hasn't gone the way of the rest of the web, and will in fact reture without having registered a domain...
Slashdot Mirror
here!
Oh yawnny yawn yawn!
;-)
A few more MHz here, a few more there, so what?
Admittedly with one of those new Athlons and 0.5G of RAM, Nautilus might be half-way usable
Seriously, apart from a few more FPS while fragging how much of a difference do those few extra clock cycles actually make?
[My pondering could be said to be jealousy, as my main computer is still a P166, but my XFCE/Evolution/Galeon combo works like a dream on it...]
The saving in question was made by choosing to switch to Linux rather than an NT derived alternative, demonstrating the saving that [in this case] Linux brings over Windows.
And just cos a couple of apps are no longer going to be developed, the distro doesn't end. It'll keep on going for as long as the project developers want to, simple as that.
Yes, but the money was saved by switching to Linux rather than switching to NT.
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;-)
Oh, is that why I have that?
I had wondered
[Disclaimer: I don't use Red Hat, I use a certain other distro, for whom I used to work, but...]
;-)
Just cos you don't like Red Hat's choices, doesn't make them bad, remember, Free Software is about choices...
a journaling system tacked on to the old ext2 system
Yes, it is, but that sort of makes it easier to migrate to (and revert from!). I personally use Reiser, but I recognise the benefit of ext3.
any rational reason for choosing GNOME over KDE2
Some people prefer it! I am one of them (and there are a lot of us...) And when RH fund GNOME development, it stands to reason that they'll use it as the default desktop. SuSE fund KDE and lo and behold it's SuSE's default. (and other distros choose one way or the other) You don't have to use the default, make your own choice - you choose KDE2, fine, it's a great desktop just don't moan about GNOME, ok?)
Nautilus is dead
No, Eazel is dead, and Nautilus has gone through at least two revisions since then, and is being ported to GNOME2 - that's the great thing about Free Software - it outlives any company if it's good, and Nautilus is goooood! (I don't use it - not enough memory, but hey, it's all about choice innit?)
type in a URL...fire up the appropriate program
GNOME does this too oddly, oh, and it does have a great browser in Galeon.
So, just because you don't use RH doesn't make it any less news. This is a significant revision (remember, noone uses a RedHat version line until x.2 if they have any sense
Does anybody want to take a stab at a date?
From the document:
we need to develop a schedule that converges on a stable, useful release in at most five milestones, preferably fewer (but likely no fewer than four).
Now, milestones tend to appear every 4 - 5 weeks, so that would be 16 - 25 weeks time (4 - 6 months)
From the document:
If things go well, we'll be within a milestone of 1.0 after 0.9.9. If 1.0 seems to continually recede as we approach it, our definition of 1.0 in terms of bugs to be fixed is broken. Therefore we will continually review the schedule and the outstanding bugs. If it takes an extra milestone (0.9.10), but 1.0 is reached soon enough, so be it -- but no one should count on an extra milestone. There won't be two or more extra milestones, or again, we will have failed to converge on a short-term stability branch and release within six months.
This would seem to confirm that timescale
...SuSE had IPO'd, now would be the time to be getting that stock bought...
;-)
(and don't try telling me the *German* government is gonna buy Red Hat...)
All very nice, but will it build properly on a MIPS system?
I've had no end of trouble trying to get 3.23.xx to build on our Cobalt RaQ2's, just refuses to play nice...
Noone's going to get prosecuted, the census form makes it clear that the religion question is exempt from the requirement to be truthful.
In addition to the german and general engliush info, there's UK specific info here.
the number of physical machines hosted by Windows is at about half
:)
Copy 'n' paste disaster?
That's pretty well what GNOME's bug-buddy is, if you file a bug report using that, it goes into the GNOME bugzilla, and is filed under your email address if you've registered with it.
I think it could interface to other bugzillas with a recompile...
I wouldn't say this is idle chatter, this is actually about people's jobs and work. People are paid to design and make hard drives and other equipment. Other people are paid to make sure their companies have the best equipment, and still more are paid to install and maintain that equipment.
Terrorists have struck at a potent symbol of commerce, and to retreat into a shell o not talking about anything else is a minor victory for them. Stories that relate to people working therefore are (IMHO) a very good thing.
The Taleban have said that Osama Bin-Laden could not have been involved in this (BBC News 24)
Remember that groups with an interest here are at some point going to be queuing up to claim responsibility (the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine already have - CBS MarketWatch) so use a small pinch of salt for that one...
Reported on CBS MarketWatch: the Taleban ambassador to Pakistan has condemned this.
I'm watching BBC News 24, and Arafat has also condemned this, saying he was deeply shocked.
This kind of has an air of "bad news travels fast" about it...
Add the BBC to CNN and MSNBC on the list of news sites dieing here (presumably under the load of people trying to get information)
Thoughts obviously are with the people on the planes and in the buildings. Well done Rob for posting this, sometimes the rules just have to be bent.
My understanding for quite some time had been that current theory was that there was a super-massive black hole at the centre of every galaxy, and in fact that they were required for the formation of galaxies...
This is good news (and on the same day as beta 2 of Evolution - who said the Linux desktop was dead?)
:)
I use Galeon, but until there's a Moz 0.9.3 optimised release I've decided to use Moz again for a while, and I honestly can't get over how much faster this release is to start and to render than 0.9.2!
Also seems to be using less memory (based on my unscientific approach of looking at my bubblemon_applet) which has to be a good thing.
It's also nice to be able to upgrade version without it killing my chromes. Even skypilot is running fast.
So, the race is on - what'll reach 1.0 first, Mozilla or Evolution?
Yes, I spend more on Linux than Windows.
The only version of Windows I ever bought was an OEM Win '95c way back in the day, but on my bookcase in my home office are Red Hat 4.0, 5.1, 6.[something - can't remember] and SuSE 6.3, 6.4, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2.
The important thing to note is that we do not *have* to buy these (we could just FTP them), we *choose* to do so.
Why do we choose to? Simple - Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake, etc, etc are part of the GNU/Linux community. The pay people to contribute code to projects and software we all use (eg SuSE heavily fund XFree86 and ALSA development). So we buy their products to support them.
It's similar in a way to buying shares in a company (but without the post-IPO dotCom blues) that you believe in.
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I want to make it clear before saying what I'm about to say that I don't like the idea of the US building this system, I think it will serve to strengthen it's position as more that the policeman of the world, but as police, court, judge, jury and executioner. (You want to see a rogue state? There's one wedged between Canada and Mexico! "You don't agree with us? Well then we'll break you economically, probably invade you if we think you're worth it, and generally make life as difficult for you as you can imagine, and maybe more so.")
But I was very very impressed to hear that this test worked! Sure, out of four carried out so far, this is only the second to work, but to hit one missile with another at the sort of range is an impressive technological feat in my book.
So, ummm, nice one George, you've proved it can be done, now go back to looking for Hawaii, there's a good chap.
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This is a real shame for the handheld market. Psion were leaders in this industry (in the UK at least, where for ages they basically owned the market, without the need for StrongARM [ahem] tactics).
Psion machines exude quality at all levels, the clam-shell cases are masterpieces of engineering, the satisfying slide as they open really does have to be felt to be believed, and EPOC is without a doubt a killer OS. (It's my #2 favorite, closely followed by whatever the Spectrum ran was called). There is no better way to idle the time away while sat on a train or bus than a quick game of Cascade on my Revo (that's one of the original ones, not the RevoPlus) or rattling off a few thoughts in the jotter or word processor.
That leads nicely to the keyboard, I never cease to be impressed at how easy it is to type on such a small keyboard, and sitting in a coffee house with a huge cappucino that dwarfs the computer you're furtively typing away at results in the most amazing puzzled looks from other caffeine consumers.
I'm just very, very glad that EPOC will continue in the form of the Symbian partnership, and that Psion will no doubt emerge as leaders in whatever is the next big growth area. If they could make the jump from the producer of some of the greatest computer games of the early 80's to producer of the best handhelds, I am sure they will be one of the best at whatever they next turn their collective hands to.
250 jobs lost is always a tragedy, I just hope that the people concerned find that with the skills they have, they are able to find alternative employment very soon.
--
If you want maximum use(full|less) information in your tcsh prompt:
set prompt = "(%d %D %w %Y %T) %B%n@%M:%l%b %/%# "
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This is such big news it was mentioned on the BBC's Breakfast News programme this morning!
Jeremy Bowen read out the URL so that people could see while it's still there, and nearly ran out of breath! How good it is that a legend like CoffeeCam (ahem) hasn't gone the way of the rest of the web, and will in fact reture without having registered a domain...
www.coffeecam.org anyone?
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