Good parent post. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractive_nuisance In discussing a related case (different facts, different state) with my lawyer, he suggested that attractive nuisance doctrine would probably be a defense to trespassing charges against children.
If there are a few slashdot readers who think the police response was bad, I want to encourage them to write to the police chief, asking if they have fired or investigated the officer yet, and write to the city council (the mayor is a powerless lame duck, i don't have contact info for the likely new mayor handy) asking if they have fired or investigated the police chief yet. It's a small town. International publicity has a way of turning things around in a hurry. police department, 45 "railroad" st kutztown pa 19530, kutztownpd@kutztownpd.org.
The purpose of the space program was to take federal dollars and spread them around the texas hill country. Johnson was a New Deal bureaucrat who got himself elected to congress. The first thing he did was use federal dollars to bring in electric power to his district. The next thing he did was to get federal money to build a dam, which went to a company which is now known as Halliburton. A chunk of this money went back into Johnson's pocket so he could buy his way into the senate, where he chaired the space subcommittee and gathered power to run for president. As president, he used tax dollars to build high tech infrastructure in texas, again funneled through Halliburton. Putting a man on the moon was misdirection and PR. Halliburton also was the main contractor for nuke plants and vietnam. The purpose of a government run space program is to spend as much money as possible. A private sector project to do the same thing has a very different set of incentives.
I tend to favor market economies and be wary of the sort of public private partnerships pioneered by mussolini and lbj. But I have to give the guy some credit for bringing the Texas hill country out of the stone age into the space age.
If, hypothetically, I wanted to make brownies, and I started with cocoa and sugar and flour and eggs and butter and vanilla extract and a pinch of salt (optional raisins, walnuts or ganja), it would be fair to say that was from scratch.
I wouldn't need to start from sugar cane and wheat and chickens and whole milk etc.
That was a thoughtful and passionate response, and there's some element of truth to it, but I'm mostly going to argue the other side.
Governments, whether democratic or dictatorships, tend to be hierarchical structures in which people compete for dominance. Sociopaths seem to have advantages in that struggle, especially where there is information scarcity and they can cover up bad behavior.
I've observed three sets of populations where high sociopathic scores seem to confer an advantage: a) law school b) the US presidency c) the ghetto. I got interested in Robert Caro's biography of LBJ, and have been reading dozens of books about who gets to be president and how. It looks like LBJ was a sociopath, as were Joe Kennedy and Bill Clinton. I haven't read enough on FDR to say, but he's also worth looking into. So that this doesn't look partisan, I would also say that the Bush dynasty - Prescot, George I, W, would score high. See also Nixon.
Law school rewarded people who were smart, hard working, and completely lacking in a conscience. That seemed to be a deliberate part of the training - people would come in full of idealism and leave as hired guns. I now how to deal with these people as lawyers for the state, who put winning above doing the right thing or obeying their oath of office. They could use this quiz instead of the bar exam, and get similar results.
I am a poor but honest lawyer, so I live in the hood. A lot of my neighbors are crackheads or alcoholics. Substance abuse seems to turn people into sociopaths, ready to lie or cheat or steal to get a quick fix, with little thought to the long term damage to their reputations.
The solution, if there is one, to dealing with sociopaths, is information management. Their strategy of ruthlessless has short term payoffs, at the cost of long term damage to their reputations, if and when the truth comes out. 'Wuffie' is cory doctorow's term for reputation capital. In http://www.craphoud.com/down Down and out in the Magic Kingdom, he outlines a future economy based on post-scarcity, open source, and reputation capital.
Applying that to the now, open a dossier on your boss, or local tyrants, if you see sociopathic tendencies. Collect information, be ready to make it public anonymously once a critcal mass is reached. Sooner or later, these types tend to shoot themselves in the foot.
If you are competant at encryption, you probably aren't using gateway's service department.
Anybody got those "gateway drug" pics?
Took me awhile to catch it, but EFF is right (as usual) - the cops failed to obtain a warrant, even if they had probable cause, so the search is presumptively unlawful (probably under the Washington constitution.)
A trickier question is what was the role of the store? If company policy is, search every box and always call the cops if soemthing iffy is spotted, they risk being in the class of informants whose activities constitute state action.
If company policy is, never search without a warrant, then they've created a reasonable expectation of privacy* which was breached here.
If, however, they have no policy, they can probably get away with being random as here.
* my use of the term "reasonable expectation of privacy" is based on federal caselaw, Katz. The Washington state cases may use some other standard entirely. If I had one beef with EFF, a wonderful organization, it's that they sometimes neglect rights under state law.
The main reason I'm posting today is to mention another EFF case. http://ballots.blogspot.com/2005/08/case-in-smyrna -delaware-raises-issues.html
The EFF has filed an amicus breif in a case before the Delaware Supreme Court about the standard to be used before an anonymous message board poster can be identified by their service provider. It's a libel case where some nasty things were said about a city councilperson, who sued. The nasty things may have been said by the mayor, so it's kind of an open secret, but the legal standard is important and I applaud the good work EFF does in this area.
I can think of a few downsides to having a metal, indestructable body. For example, the sex probably wouldn't be as good. You must be new here? We're slashdot readers. While some of us have great sex lives, it's probably not the norm. With my transhuman metal indestructable body, I'd be more likely to be able to remember the great sex I've had, more able to imagine great sex I havent had, more able to seek out strange new worlds of sex....
Phone: (850)729-5402 Term Length: 4 years I hestitate to jump to conclusion without all the facts. Maybe Bob can fill us in. Let's each give him a call [and, if appropriate, congrate him on his vigilance in stamping out smutmongering librarians.]
It's a dupe. All this info was in the previous post (yesterday? day before?) recently. What I still don't know, is whether the 5 million really exists, and has been paid or will be paid. TFA indicated the corporate shell was ready to file bankruptcy. Big judgments against spammers aren't news. Actually collecting is news. Get back to us with proof the money has been paid, and that would be a followup, not a dupe.
No, what Friedman said was that during Reagan's term in office, the continuing growth in government was shifted from the non-military-industutrial sector to the military-industrial sector. It was a eulogy, in which you try to think of something nice to say about the corpse. Freidman did genuinely like and respect reagan. A more interesting Freidman would be Patri Freidman, at Catallarchy.
In the US, the government spends more per capita than in Sweden. Cradle to grave is a fair description. Cradle manufacture and marketing is supervised by not less than 13 government agencies. The institute for justice http://www.ij.org/ has been doing a series of cases about the right to sell caskets without having an undertaker's license.
You are free to say anything you want excluding the proverbial 'Fire!' in a crowded theater (or any other place) or if you slander someone Parent poster was mostly right. I just wanted to address this one point. You do have the right to shout fire in a crowded theater. Sometimes it's a line in a play. Sometimes the theater is on fire. The case that says you can't, Schenck v United States, is taught specifically because it was wrong, and has been overruled. In Schenck, some antiwar protestors were convicted of having argued that the draft is unconstitutional, a violation of the 13th amendment. For one thing, they are probably right - the draft probably does violate the 13th amendment. But even if they are wrong, it's a basic mater of free speech to be able to discuss the topic. So please be careful with the "proverbial" shouting fire in a crowded theater angle. http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/faclibrary/cas e.aspx?id=6466
Any historical evidence to back up your scaremongering? 1935: ss#'s issued, "not to be used for identification" 1941: concentration camp guests tatooed with identification numbers. 2000 hospital tries to prevent mother from leaving with her baby until it's been issued a ss#. 1990: i don't want to have a ssn on my driver's license. they tell me there's no form for that. i make up a form, it works. 2002: i go to vote. official tells me i have to give my ssn before i can vote. i say "cool! then i get to sue you." in the end, i vote. 2004: Hiibel v Texas: supreme court upholds man's arrest for failure to display pedestrian license. 2003: i forget who it was who's been trying to adopt a dog that doesn't have a chip. 2004: i was arrested, bonded out. they ask my ssn, i respond, as always "i don't give that out without a privacy act statement." They put me in solitary, no food. I know they're bluffing, and they let me out the next morning, after "losing" my legal files and other personal possessions. 2005: chips in passports to reenter from canada. yesterday: i'm at my bank, and notice a notice that due to terrorism, i can't rent a box or open an account without giving up certain info, which i expect would include ssn. 20xx: chips in babies. think of the children!
How can it be called ID Theft if the original owner still has his identity? Parent post is not a troll; it identifies the main error in the article. What happened is that some spyware harvested very personal info about some people. That's bad, possibly criminal. But it's not identity theft. Identity theft occurs whebn somebody takes the personal information and uses it to pose as you, draining your bank account, sleeping with your girlfriend, or in some way abusing the illicit information. There's no direct evidence of that here. It's the old kevin mitnick scenario: breaking into a system and wandering around is not the same crime as breaking into a system, changing or destroying files, is not the same crime as breaking into a system and using the info to commit real world crimes such as wire fraud or embezzlement. Article is FUD. Spyware is bad. This spyware is bad. People should avoid broken browsers e.g. microsoft, and run spybot/adaware type sweepers. Lying about the problem won't help fix it. Mod parent up.
Did they develop the GUI? No Xerox did. And no Apple didn't develop it. Edison didn't invent the lightbulb. It had been demonstrated in the lab 20 years earlier. Edison made some improvements, mass-marketed and mass-produced lightbulbs, and built the infrastructure to bring them to the home and office. Ford didn't invent the automobile. Ford made some improvements, used massproduction to bring the cost down to make it affordable for the average home and office. The original article is a rant, with spelling and grammar errors and some weak arguments and claims. But it has a valid central point. Bill Gates is (approximately) the world's richest man because he, as much as anyone, made computers accessible and affordable to the average home and office. We can whine that Edison screwed Tesla, and electric cars were better than model A's, and Sarnof screwed Farnsworth, and Sinatra killed Kennedy, and so forth, but I'm happy to be living in a world where a billion people are online. We don't know how things would have played out if there had been no microsoft. The open source movement at some point should give us something better than windows, but it's still not here yet. Apple is still making Volvos in a Ford world, catering to a niche market which can afford a better product at a higher price.
Windows has been the electric light bulb and the model A that made the new technology accessible to the masses.
The mouse body must still physically be depressed to actuate the sensor.
I think my mouse body might be physically depressed. It hasn't been getting any work done lately, lies around, clicks on pr0n and slashdot a lot, drinks too much.
https://ssl.capwiz.com/usatoday/mail/compose/?id=9 482&billid=6036236 send carper a thank you note. (congressional staffers sort mail into "for and "against" buckets. at the end of the day the buckets are weighed. email doesn't weight much. a brick with a note, expressmailed, has more impact.)
Yes.
Carper (and it's not just him - D Senators Landrieau and Almond are in on it,
http://www.senate.gov/~landrieu/releases/05/200572 7713.html)
swore an oath to uphold the constitution.
Carper's been a congressman, governor, and now senator for years, and this is the first time i've seen him violate his oath. But it only takes once.
He should resign. If he doesn't, he should be encouraged, politely but unceasingly.
Senators are relatively immune when they get caught violating their oath of office.
One of the checks and balances of the system is that soldiers and veterans have taken an oath to oppose the enemies of the constitution, foreign and domestic. By continuing to claim the office of senator after violating his oath of office, I personally would consider Carper a domestic enemy of the constitution, who should be actively opposed veterans. For ethical reasons, such opposition should be nonviolent.
Perhaps a wave of free online carper-porn would make the point.
Perhaps picketing his house would be appropriate.
https://ssl.capwiz.com/usatoday/bio/?id=9482&congr ess=1091&lvl=C
He lives in wilmington, not sure exact address.
Perhaps a national boycott of the democratic party until carper resigns would be the way to go.
Each veteran could do something a little different. Realisticly, almost nobody will do anything, but ten people would enough to hound this usurper out of office if they were persistant and clever. Maybe we should just pray for him.
Perhaps he's educable.
Good parent post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractive_nuisance
In discussing a related case (different facts, different state) with my lawyer, he suggested that attractive nuisance doctrine would probably be a defense to trespassing charges against children.
If there are a few slashdot readers who think the police response was bad, I want to encourage them to write to the police chief, asking if they have fired or investigated the officer yet, and write to the city council (the mayor is a powerless lame duck, i don't have contact info for the likely new mayor handy) asking if they have fired or investigated the police chief yet. It's a small town. International publicity has a way of turning things around in a hurry.
police department, 45 "railroad" st kutztown pa 19530, kutztownpd@kutztownpd.org.
The purpose of the space program was to take federal dollars and spread them around the texas hill country. Johnson was a New Deal bureaucrat who got himself elected to congress. The first thing he did was use federal dollars to bring in electric power to his district. The next thing he did was to get federal money to build a dam, which went to a company which is now known as Halliburton. A chunk of this money went back into Johnson's pocket so he could buy his way into the senate, where he chaired the space subcommittee and gathered power to run for president.
As president, he used tax dollars to build high tech infrastructure in texas, again funneled through Halliburton. Putting a man on the moon was misdirection and PR. Halliburton also was the main contractor for nuke plants and vietnam.
The purpose of a government run space program is to spend as much money as possible. A private sector project to do the same thing has a very different set of incentives.
I tend to favor market economies and be wary of the sort of public private partnerships pioneered by mussolini and lbj. But I have to give the guy some credit for bringing the Texas hill country out of the stone age into the space age.
If, hypothetically, I wanted to make brownies,
and I started with cocoa and sugar and flour and eggs and butter and vanilla extract and a pinch of salt (optional raisins, walnuts or ganja), it would be fair to say that was from scratch.
I wouldn't need to start from sugar cane and wheat and chickens and whole milk etc.
That was a thoughtful and passionate response, and there's some element of truth to it, but I'm mostly going to argue the other side.
Governments, whether democratic or dictatorships, tend to be hierarchical structures in which people compete for dominance. Sociopaths seem to have advantages in that struggle, especially where there is information scarcity and they can cover up bad behavior.
I've observed three sets of populations where high sociopathic scores seem to confer an advantage:
a) law school b) the US presidency c) the ghetto.
I got interested in Robert Caro's biography of LBJ, and have been reading dozens of books about who gets to be president and how. It looks like LBJ was a sociopath, as were Joe Kennedy and Bill Clinton. I haven't read enough on FDR to say, but he's also worth looking into. So that this doesn't look partisan, I would also say that the Bush dynasty - Prescot, George I, W, would score high. See also Nixon.
Law school rewarded people who were smart, hard working, and completely lacking in a conscience. That seemed to be a deliberate part of the training - people would come in full of idealism and leave as hired guns. I now how to deal with these people as lawyers for the state, who put winning above doing the right thing or obeying their oath of office. They could use this quiz instead of the bar exam, and get similar results.
I am a poor but honest lawyer, so I live in the hood. A lot of my neighbors are crackheads or alcoholics. Substance abuse seems to turn people into sociopaths, ready to lie or cheat or steal to get a quick fix, with little thought to the long term damage to their reputations.
The solution, if there is one, to dealing with sociopaths, is information management. Their strategy of ruthlessless has short term payoffs,
at the cost of long term damage to their reputations, if and when the truth comes out.
'Wuffie' is cory doctorow's term for reputation capital. In http://www.craphoud.com/down Down and out in the Magic Kingdom, he outlines a future economy based on post-scarcity, open source, and reputation capital.
Applying that to the now, open a dossier on your boss, or local tyrants, if you see sociopathic tendencies. Collect information, be ready to make it public anonymously once a critcal mass is reached. Sooner or later, these types tend to shoot themselves in the foot.
If you are competant at encryption, you probably aren't using gateway's service department.
a -delaware-raises-issues.html
Anybody got those "gateway drug" pics?
Took me awhile to catch it, but EFF is right (as usual) - the cops failed to obtain a warrant, even if they had probable cause, so the search is presumptively unlawful (probably under the Washington constitution.)
A trickier question is what was the role of the store? If company policy is, search every box and always call the cops if soemthing iffy is spotted,
they risk being in the class of informants whose activities constitute state action.
If company policy is, never search without a warrant, then they've created a reasonable expectation of privacy* which was breached here.
If, however, they have no policy, they can probably get away with being random as here.
* my use of the term "reasonable expectation of privacy" is based on federal caselaw, Katz. The Washington state cases may use some other standard entirely. If I had one beef with EFF, a wonderful organization, it's that they sometimes neglect rights under state law.
The main reason I'm posting today is to mention another EFF case.
http://ballots.blogspot.com/2005/08/case-in-smyrn
The EFF has filed an amicus breif in a case before the Delaware Supreme Court about the standard to be used before an anonymous message board poster can be identified by their service provider. It's a libel case where some nasty things were said about a city councilperson, who sued. The nasty things may have been said by the mayor, so it's kind of an open secret, but the legal standard is important and I applaud the good work EFF does in this area.
A good article about
some weird, gang-style rivalry coming from a falling out between the founders might be quite slashdotworthy. Got one?
I can think of a few downsides to having a metal, indestructable body. For example, the sex probably wouldn't be as good.
You must be new here?
We're slashdot readers.
While some of us have great sex lives, it's probably not the norm.
With my transhuman metal indestructable body, I'd be more likely to be able to remember the great sex I've had, more able to imagine great sex I havent had, more able to seek out strange new worlds of sex....
Robert Billingsley
Office
465 Valparaiso Pkwy
Valparaiso, FL 32580
Email: rbillingsley@valp.org
Web: www.valp.org/
Phone: (850)729-5402
Term Length: 4 years
I hestitate to jump to conclusion without all the facts. Maybe Bob can fill us in. Let's each give him a call [and, if appropriate, congrate him on his vigilance in stamping out smutmongering librarians.]
"where do you want to go today?"
It's a dupe. All this info was in the previous post (yesterday? day before?) recently.
What I still don't know, is whether the 5 million really exists, and has been paid or will be paid.
TFA indicated the corporate shell was ready to file bankruptcy. Big judgments against spammers aren't news. Actually collecting is news. Get back to us with proof the money has been paid, and that would be a followup, not a dupe.
No, what Friedman said was that during Reagan's term in office, the continuing growth in government was shifted from the non-military-industutrial sector to the military-industrial sector.
It was a eulogy, in which you try to think of something nice to say about the corpse.
Freidman did genuinely like and respect reagan.
A more interesting Freidman would be Patri Freidman, at Catallarchy.
In the US, the government spends more per capita than in Sweden. Cradle to grave is a fair description. Cradle manufacture and marketing is supervised by not less than 13 government agencies.
The institute for justice http://www.ij.org/ has been doing a series of cases about the right to sell caskets without having an undertaker's license.
You are free to say anything you want excluding the proverbial 'Fire!' in a crowded theater (or any other place) or if you slander someones e.aspx?id=6466
Parent poster was mostly right. I just wanted to address this one point.
You do have the right to shout fire in a crowded theater. Sometimes it's a line in a play. Sometimes the theater is on fire. The case that says you can't, Schenck v United States, is taught specifically because it was wrong, and has been overruled. In Schenck, some antiwar protestors were convicted of having argued that the draft is unconstitutional, a violation of the 13th amendment. For one thing, they are probably right - the draft probably does violate the 13th amendment. But even if they are wrong, it's a basic mater of free speech to be able to discuss the topic.
So please be careful with the "proverbial" shouting fire in a crowded theater angle.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/faclibrary/ca
Any historical evidence to back up your scaremongering?
1935: ss#'s issued, "not to be used for identification"
1941: concentration camp guests tatooed with identification numbers.
2000 hospital tries to prevent mother from leaving with her baby until it's been issued a ss#.
1990: i don't want to have a ssn on my driver's license. they tell me there's no form for that. i make up a form, it works.
2002: i go to vote. official tells me i have to give my ssn before i can vote. i say "cool! then i get to sue you." in the end, i vote.
2004: Hiibel v Texas: supreme court upholds man's arrest for failure to display pedestrian license.
2003: i forget who it was who's been trying to adopt a dog that doesn't have a chip.
2004: i was arrested, bonded out. they ask my ssn, i respond, as always "i don't give that out without a privacy act statement." They put me in solitary, no food. I know they're bluffing, and they let me out the next morning, after "losing" my legal files and other personal possessions.
2005: chips in passports to reenter from canada.
yesterday: i'm at my bank, and notice a notice that due to terrorism, i can't rent a box or open an account without giving up certain info, which i expect would include ssn.
20xx: chips in babies. think of the children!
How can it be called ID Theft if the original owner still has his identity?
Parent post is not a troll; it identifies the main error in the article.
What happened is that some spyware harvested very personal info about some people. That's bad, possibly criminal. But it's not identity theft.
Identity theft occurs whebn somebody takes the personal information and uses it to pose as you, draining your bank account, sleeping with your girlfriend, or in some way abusing the illicit information. There's no direct evidence of that here.
It's the old kevin mitnick scenario: breaking into a system and wandering around is not the same crime as breaking into a system, changing or destroying files, is not the same crime as breaking into a system and using the info to commit real world crimes such as wire fraud or embezzlement.
Article is FUD.
Spyware is bad. This spyware is bad.
People should avoid broken browsers e.g. microsoft, and run spybot/adaware type sweepers.
Lying about the problem won't help fix it. Mod parent up.
This doesn't count theft/fraud by the store against the customer. I'll never shop at circuit city again.
Did they develop the GUI?
No Xerox did. And no Apple didn't develop it.
Edison didn't invent the lightbulb. It had been demonstrated in the lab 20 years earlier. Edison made some improvements, mass-marketed and mass-produced lightbulbs, and built the infrastructure to bring them to the home and office.
Ford didn't invent the automobile. Ford made some improvements, used massproduction to bring the cost down to make it affordable for the average home and office.
The original article is a rant, with spelling and grammar errors and some weak arguments and claims.
But it has a valid central point.
Bill Gates is (approximately) the world's richest man because he, as much as anyone, made computers accessible and affordable to the average home and office.
We can whine that Edison screwed Tesla, and electric cars were better than model A's, and Sarnof screwed Farnsworth, and Sinatra killed Kennedy, and so forth, but I'm happy to be living in a world where a billion people are online.
We don't know how things would have played out if there had been no microsoft.
The open source movement at some point should give us something better than windows, but it's still not here yet. Apple is still making Volvos in a Ford world, catering to a niche market which can afford a better product at a higher price.
Windows has been the electric light bulb and the model A that made the new technology accessible to the masses.
Anonymous pamphlets, leaflets, brochures and even books have
i a.html
played an important role in the progress of mankind. Persecuted
groups and sects from time to time throughout history have been able
to criticize oppressive practices and laws either anonymously or not
at all. The obnoxious press licensing law of England, which was also
enforced on the Colonies was due in part to the knowledge that
exposure of the names of printers, writers and distributors would
lessen the circulation of literature critical of the government. The
old seditious libel cases in England show the lengths to which
government had to go to find out who was responsible for books that
were obnoxious to the rulers. John Lilburne was whipped, pilloried
and fined for refusing to answer questions designed to get evidence
to convict him or someone else for the secret distribution of books
in England. Two Puritan Ministers, John Penry and John Udal, were
sentenced to death on charges that they were responsible for writing,
printing or publishing books. n6 Before the Revolutionary War
colonial patriots frequently had to conceal their authorship or
distribution of literature that easily could have brought down on
them prosecutions by English-controlled courts.
Talley v California,
http://www.epic.org/free_speech/talley_v_californ
The mouse body must still physically be depressed to actuate the sensor.
I think my mouse body might be physically depressed. It hasn't been getting any work done lately, lies around, clicks on pr0n and slashdot a lot, drinks too much.
http://www.toonopedia.com/mightym.htm
They are out there, just as yet undiscovered.
I hereby name the next three fred, goofy, and quahog.
Everybody loves eric raymond.
http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/sell-out
http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/arbi/300725
https://ssl.capwiz.com/usatoday/mail/compose/?id=9 482&billid=6036236
send carper a thank you note.
(congressional staffers sort mail into "for and "against" buckets. at the end of the day the buckets are weighed. email doesn't weight much. a brick with a note, expressmailed, has more impact.)
Yes. Carper (and it's not just him - D Senators Landrieau and Almond are in on it, http://www.senate.gov/~landrieu/releases/05/200572 7713.html)
swore an oath to uphold the constitution.
Carper's been a congressman, governor, and now senator for years, and this is the first time i've seen him violate his oath. But it only takes once.
He should resign. If he doesn't, he should be encouraged, politely but unceasingly.
Senators are relatively immune when they get caught violating their oath of office.
One of the checks and balances of the system is that soldiers and veterans have taken an oath to oppose the enemies of the constitution, foreign and domestic. By continuing to claim the office of senator after violating his oath of office, I personally would consider Carper a domestic enemy of the constitution, who should be actively opposed veterans. For ethical reasons, such opposition should be nonviolent.
Perhaps a wave of free online carper-porn would make the point.
Perhaps picketing his house would be appropriate.
https://ssl.capwiz.com/usatoday/bio/?id=9482&congr ess=1091&lvl=C
He lives in wilmington, not sure exact address.
Perhaps a national boycott of the democratic party until carper resigns would be the way to go.
Each veteran could do something a little different. Realisticly, almost nobody will do anything, but ten people would enough to hound this usurper out of office if they were persistant and clever. Maybe we should just pray for him.
Perhaps he's educable.
2003-EL61 - that's no moon.
Ob: 30? How many does it take for a beowulf cluster? [notes that so far no one has mentioned mutant lobsters in boston harbor.]