Hey same with porn filters...so screw it forget filters all together. It's possible to write software that would be realivitly hard for kids to bypass. The point that worries me most about this is not the fact that kids might get around it...but that parents need it. Where exactly will kids get games that their parents don't want them to play? Even if they get them, shouldn' the parents have taught them better than to play games they disapprove of?
And in other news Jobs also called gates, "a big meanie" and asked him to stop being a "copy cat", while the linux people chimed in that he needed to "learn how to share". Mr. Gates couldn't be reached for comment he was busy coloring.
I must admit, you are spot on. I agree with almost everything you've said, perhaphs I should clarify my poition on the issue.
There are a few factors that drive people to coutinue using IE. They way I see them they are:
Fear of change
I've found that people don't like to mess with something that works even if something else might work better. I've fixed alot of freinds, teachers, and neighbors computers. Sometimes, with good reason, I've installed firefox. Some of the things I've heard a lot: "Here's how I used to get online.....will that still work?". "Can you make Internet Explorer work?"
Igorance of other choices
This is what you were touching on I'm sure. The problem I have with your senario is the fact that you assume (like many people do) that spyware and popups are a good reason to switch to another browser. What we as a community have to understand is that changing browsers is really just running from the problem. The reason IE is open to attacks by spyware is because the people who make spyware know that that's what most people use. As soon as people move to another selection, they'll simply target the new browser.
Lack of need
I'll hold firm, that as long as people can do what they need to do online they're happy and don't care to mess with what "works". In fact, they're proablly happy that their SP2/google bar now blocks popups.
Favortism
Heh, I wouldn't have put this in but belive it or not I know windows fanboys. I also know linux posers (they slap stickers of tux everywhere and talk about how evil redmond is but only use microsoft products and can't name a single linux distro). Some people like windows, and they only use offical windows products.
What I'm basically trying to say is that for another browser to gain a large market share in the long run, they'll have to offer the users something big. It will have to be usefull to the common user and more than just, "security" and "safty from spyware" because those things will go away once the browser becomes more popular.
The concept of real competition entering the market is really an illusion. It's not a competition when 89% of the world uses your browser. What microsoft is doing right now is taking steps to make sure it doesn't become a competition. For people to switch, they'll need a good reason, a major thing that IE can't do. Right now there isn't one. There are little things that annoy the computer geeks and tech nerds but nothing your typical 60 year old grandmother or 16 school girl will care about. I applaud them for taking a step in the right direction, but lets not forget that they're still the big dog in the software market. They won the first browser war and they're ready for another.
http://www.alltheweb.com/ works well for me. It's video scearch turns up what I'm looking for and I like it's picture scearch system better than google's
The content and quality of the ads is changing. If you read the article you'd know that the internet penertrated homes faster than any communications medium, in only 7 years it was in 50% of US homes.
Advertising soon followed but when you have growth that rapid you develop what we call in economics an expansionary gap. Because of this, once the internet was first used for advertising tons up copy-cats popped up. Inovation and we were caught in a process of technological lag. More advanced tools are being generated (with the advent fo java, shockwave, and the widespread adapation of broadband internet) and now that internet advertising is a viable medium major companies are starting to look into the options. This will eventually lead to better quality advertising as well as more polished ads.
Not definitly...I've seen that technology for games(see link) and I remember microsoft had suggested doing that for MP3s and some other things with DRM. I don't know if the it's been put into place yet or not.
We don't know exactly what happened here. I agree if he did what's alleged than he should be in trouble for it but until it's proven one way or the other that's not a fair comparison.
Agreed:-). The third one is meant to be that villian so they proablly cast an ugly worman for it knowing that we hate ugly women. Well some of us...I don't think she looks to bad personally..........
No nobody forced her to chat with the man but it is possible that she was lured into chatting with him. I don't know that exact contents of the messages that were sent back and forth but I think it's safe to say that those are what will determin who was at fault here.
If she was 15 when they started talking and he brought up sex to her, at that age, and knowing how old she was than it's her fault. But maybe they were just chat pals for 2 years or so and at 17 she mentioned having sex, her parents find out and they want this guy in trouble, because of his job it's headline news. Everything depends on the context.
It's not as bad as we make it to be in most cases. I've can't remember ever losing signal completely but I have broken up on multiple occassions and had to move to keep the signal.
It's not always that simple. Sometimes the US will overlook certain crimes in other countries because we want good relations with them. I'm not so sure about "Congress approved " computers. Sounds to much like big brother to me. But I do see your point and in general you're correct the problem here is what is defined as 'spyware'.
I played a game like that at the Pittsburgh Science Center in 5th grade (7 1/2 years ago), it was kinda neat you had a green screen behing you and looked at the monitor and you could use you gloves to play realistic basket ball. It was fun then, sounds like the technology is really picking up though, can't wait until I have a better home version of it.
Heh well if we're on the topic of intersting places to put wireless, why didn't we stick a network on Antartica? I mean if I remember correctly there's no body of land at the north pole...just a whole lot of water and ice.
The north pole? Intersting but wouldn't it be great to place a wireless node on every telephone pole? Just a public accessable wireless network that was free to use. Maybe included wireless networks in every government building. I really do feel wireless is the future of networking. We should take steps now to set up a huge coast to coast wireless network.
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The same reason we need cookie monster singing about cookies, see comic: http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=2005 0408.
Hey same with porn filters...so screw it forget filters all together. It's possible to write software that would be realivitly hard for kids to bypass. The point that worries me most about this is not the fact that kids might get around it...but that parents need it. Where exactly will kids get games that their parents don't want them to play? Even if they get them, shouldn' the parents have taught them better than to play games they disapprove of?
With WINE it will
And in other news Jobs also called gates, "a big meanie" and asked him to stop being a "copy cat", while the linux people chimed in that he needed to "learn how to share". Mr. Gates couldn't be reached for comment he was busy coloring.
Do they get them back a week if they return them? Really I mean it's a week. Good for them. How much damage can a week early release do?
I must admit, you are spot on. I agree with almost everything you've said, perhaphs I should clarify my poition on the issue.
There are a few factors that drive people to coutinue using IE. They way I see them they are:
Fear of change
I've found that people don't like to mess with something that works even if something else might work better. I've fixed alot of freinds, teachers, and neighbors computers. Sometimes, with good reason, I've installed firefox. Some of the things I've heard a lot: "Here's how I used to get online.....will that still work?". "Can you make Internet Explorer work?"
Igorance of other choices
This is what you were touching on I'm sure. The problem I have with your senario is the fact that you assume (like many people do) that spyware and popups are a good reason to switch to another browser. What we as a community have to understand is that changing browsers is really just running from the problem. The reason IE is open to attacks by spyware is because the people who make spyware know that that's what most people use. As soon as people move to another selection, they'll simply target the new browser.
Lack of need
I'll hold firm, that as long as people can do what they need to do online they're happy and don't care to mess with what "works". In fact, they're proablly happy that their SP2/google bar now blocks popups.
Favortism
Heh, I wouldn't have put this in but belive it or not I know windows fanboys. I also know linux posers (they slap stickers of tux everywhere and talk about how evil redmond is but only use microsoft products and can't name a single linux distro). Some people like windows, and they only use offical windows products.
What I'm basically trying to say is that for another browser to gain a large market share in the long run, they'll have to offer the users something big. It will have to be usefull to the common user and more than just, "security" and "safty from spyware" because those things will go away once the browser becomes more popular.
The concept of real competition entering the market is really an illusion. It's not a competition when 89% of the world uses your browser. What microsoft is doing right now is taking steps to make sure it doesn't become a competition. For people to switch, they'll need a good reason, a major thing that IE can't do. Right now there isn't one. There are little things that annoy the computer geeks and tech nerds but nothing your typical 60 year old grandmother or 16 school girl will care about. I applaud them for taking a step in the right direction, but lets not forget that they're still the big dog in the software market. They won the first browser war and they're ready for another.
http://www.alltheweb.com/ works well for me. It's video scearch turns up what I'm looking for and I like it's picture scearch system better than google's
The competition is intersting but isn't really anything new we have things like that up in Pittsburgh...
I want to see somebody make a 5 foot tall set of legos, to scale out of normal legos oo... Ahh I love recurrsion
Try going two or three weeks with no sexual contact at all and then take an IQ and tell me how you score :-P
What actor would you say best played the role they were given?
The content and quality of the ads is changing. If you read the article you'd know that the internet penertrated homes faster than any communications medium, in only 7 years it was in 50% of US homes.
Advertising soon followed but when you have growth that rapid you develop what we call in economics an expansionary gap. Because of this, once the internet was first used for advertising tons up copy-cats popped up. Inovation and we were caught in a process of technological lag. More advanced tools are being generated (with the advent fo java, shockwave, and the widespread adapation of broadband internet) and now that internet advertising is a viable medium major companies are starting to look into the options. This will eventually lead to better quality advertising as well as more polished ads.
Actually if you use data verification you can block bad clients, "on the fly"
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4248
Not definitly...I've seen that technology for games(see link) and I remember microsoft had suggested doing that for MP3s and some other things with DRM. I don't know if the it's been put into place yet or not.
We don't know exactly what happened here. I agree if he did what's alleged than he should be in trouble for it but until it's proven one way or the other that's not a fair comparison.
I say the following completely jokingly please don't flame me :-P :
If there's no grass than just play in the mud.
Man1: Hey I pulled a turtle last night.
Man2:How so?
Man1:I beat the hair.
Agreed :-). The third one is meant to be that villian so they proablly cast an ugly worman for it knowing that we hate ugly women. Well some of us...I don't think she looks to bad personally..........
No nobody forced her to chat with the man but it is possible that she was lured into chatting with him. I don't know that exact contents of the messages that were sent back and forth but I think it's safe to say that those are what will determin who was at fault here.
If she was 15 when they started talking and he brought up sex to her, at that age, and knowing how old she was than it's her fault. But maybe they were just chat pals for 2 years or so and at 17 she mentioned having sex, her parents find out and they want this guy in trouble, because of his job it's headline news. Everything depends on the context.
See subject.
It's not as bad as we make it to be in most cases. I've can't remember ever losing signal completely but I have broken up on multiple occassions and had to move to keep the signal.
It's not always that simple. Sometimes the US will overlook certain crimes in other countries because we want good relations with them. I'm not so sure about "Congress approved " computers. Sounds to much like big brother to me. But I do see your point and in general you're correct the problem here is what is defined as 'spyware'.
Orginally posted by rpozz:
Enforcing this internationally is a bit more tricky though.
That's what our military is for.
I played a game like that at the Pittsburgh Science Center in 5th grade (7 1/2 years ago), it was kinda neat you had a green screen behing you and looked at the monitor and you could use you gloves to play realistic basket ball. It was fun then, sounds like the technology is really picking up though, can't wait until I have a better home version of it.
Heh well if we're on the topic of intersting places to put wireless, why didn't we stick a network on Antartica? I mean if I remember correctly there's no body of land at the north pole...just a whole lot of water and ice.
The north pole? Intersting but wouldn't it be great to place a wireless node on every telephone pole? Just a public accessable wireless network that was free to use. Maybe included wireless networks in every government building. I really do feel wireless is the future of networking. We should take steps now to set up a huge coast to coast wireless network.