How hard do you have to twist to come up with such intellectually dishonest ideas such as these?
Isreal was the homeland of the Hebrews. This is a historical fact acknowledged by all of the relevant parties and supported by objective archealogical evidence.
Much less hard than you, obviously. If you read the bible, you will see the bit where god told the jews that that was meant to be their land and that they should take it. Which they did. Butchering every man, woman, and child who was already living there. It actually brags about this bit.
Pull your head out of your ass and realise that the Israelis are scumbags and the Palestinians are as well. Playing favorites oin this battle is the worst sort of intellectual dishonesty.
Hell, I get paranoid enough on/., myself. It seems that any post making light of a Republican gets modded as a troll/off topic. Perhaps Ashcroft has penetrated/. with thousands of mod points? jk
I haven't actually done a statistical analysis, but from casual observation it looks like pro repub/anti dem and anti repub/pro dem posts get modded down by mods with an ax to grind at fairly equal frequencies.
The geese border on pestilence now. Just TRY to walk across an office parking lot next to a lawn without stepping on a goose or their "fertilizer" waste-product.
Tell me about it, Dude.
I work in the north burbs of Chicago and they're a plague. They call them "Corporate Geese" cause they're all over the business park lawns. The fuckers got so lazy they don't even freaking migrate any more. Have you ever seen a Chicago winter?!? Dumb ass geese.
SCO distributed Linux for a long time after they had started their legal proceedings, and I'm damn sure this is going to have an effect on the case.
Possibly it will have an affect, but...
It should be obvious that he wants to save his arse for distributing stuff under the GPL for so long, and the fact that he faces copyright infringement of his own even if the GPL is invalid.
See the top quoted bit. If they are distributing it under the GPL, then they are not guilty of copyright infringement. Whether or not they are guilty of fraud for billing people for code they don't own is a different issue. They've spewed a bunch of crap to the press, but have they actually sent out any invoices? If not, then they aren't even guilty of fraud. Lying to a reporter isn't illegal AFAIK. It's a reporters job to have a good BS detector and use it, but the media in this country have been a pathetic joke for years.
but this whole SCO thing is so publicly damaging for the GPL and Linux, and the fact way the media and the stock markets work is that one is automatically guilty when one makes no good comment.
That seems to be the only possible purpose for this whole fiasco, since they obviously can't make money selling Linux for long even in the worst case scenario.
(Just as we do not, for ethical reasons, use information that the Nazis gleaned from their experimentation on the Jews in World War II.
Well, except for the fact that we did use the data the Nazis collected. How do you think we got organ and limb transplants among many other techniques so quickly? I'm not sure what ethical principle you are referring to. The one about if someone is horribly tortured and murdered that we should ensure that their death serves no useful purpose at all rather than allowing what good we can to come from their sacrifice?
I find it sad that parts of our society are so devoid of virtue that they deny its existence.
I find it sad that pretentious holier than thou dipshits like yourself think that what you do is moral and what other people do is immoral.
Now, I'm not trying to damn or judge anyone for mistakes they've made, but it's pathetic that so many call evil good and good evil.
Of course you are. You said people who look at porn are engaging in "immoral" actions. It is truly pathetic that you call something which is morally ambiguous "evil".
Dirty images and thoughts cause you to value women only for sexual reasons and leads to the treatment of women as objects.
Perhaps that's what it does for you, in which case I'm very happy that you choose to refrain from engaging in that activity. If you are this badly miswired, I suspect that this will happen even without that particular influence. But the rest of us who don't have a natural predisposition toward misogyny have no such problems thanks.
If you are married or eventually plan to be married, wouldn't you want to be clean of addiction to pr0n and immoral thoughts so that your wife can trust that you value her as a person and love her for who she is and not just for her body?
I am married. Therefore I'm glad that I am as free and open minded as possible to ensure that I can be the best husband I can be in all situations. There are times when I need to listen very attentatively, provide support, and generally treat her like the queen she is.
There are other times, though, when depraved "immoral" thoughts and actions are exactly what she needs from me. There are situations when I've told her, "This isn't about love. This is about me needing to pound the hell out of your tight little body" and such things. At the time, that was exactly what she needed from me and we *both* had a great fucking time.
Now, I suspect you'll probably think that is "immoral" as well. At that point I can just pity you.
The rod spoken of is a shepards' crook ("thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me"), not a stick for beating children. Guidance, not violence, is what is being prescribed.
Right, so the saying says that when they screw up you need to grab them by the neck with a stick and drag them away for their beating;-)
The BIBLE (God's word and basis for Christian Faith) details homosexuality as a sin, an abomination in God's eye, and a self-destructive lifesytle.
That is the old testament with the god of anger and hatred and such. The new testament had this guy called Jesus who said things about loving everybody equally, not judging and such.
Besides which, GWB swore an oath to defend the constitution, not his particular hypocritical hate filled brand of Christianity. By saying that, no all men are not created equal. Those people are evil and do not deserve the rights that good god-fearing (and apparently freedom hating) Americans deserve, he violated that oath.
If you read this, you will see that he did not judge anyone. God made the judgement (The only one who has the right to "Play God").
Again, that's old testament. GWB claims to be Christian. Yes, he did judge. Had GWB or any other extremist-wacko Christians (no that is *not* redundant) any actual faith in their god, then they would let him do his job and stay the fuck out of his way rather than explicitly violating his orders to promote their hatred.
But I wouldn't say that self-styled republicans are "led" by people like Limbaugh, though -- it's probably more likely that they just like to hear him talking up views that they came to rationally in the first place.
Given that Limbaugh merely spews hatred whether or not there is any actual basis to what he says, I don't think it would be possible to reach those views "rationally".
This is, I assume, why democrats like people like Michael Moore, who while a total liar , is still well liked by a lot of self-styled liberals.
Ah, a link to more made up hatred with no basis in fact. Perhaps you would care to go to Michael Moore's own site where he actually responds to these ridiculous lies ( which only a complete moron would actually believe in the first place).
This is exactly what I and the original poster are saying. You have rabid morons spewing hateful lies and the people, like yourself, who are too dumb to actually think, research, or do much besides swallow and puke back up the drivel you slurp up because it agrees with your own hates.
Seriously, decent human beings are getting very tired of your ignorance affecting our lives. Try and act like you have some sense of decency for once in your life and quit spreading the hate-filled lies you have been fed.
OH yes, a man, involved in a plot to kill the current government to start a Catholic Jihad and take over Government is someone w/ "Honest Intentions".
Assuming these were his intentions and he stated them as such then they were honest intentions. Perhaps not honorable but that really depends on which side of the debate you're on.
This is in contrast to elected officials who say anything to get elected and then do other things.
His decision was not based on any sort of PC attitude. It was based on not having his work used to manipulate, confuse, and and disturb someone going through a very difficult period of their life by people with an agenda to push as he very clearly stated.
It seems like the right decision considering you have already twisted his decision not to write it to support your own "anti-PC" agenda.
The fact that some people have blond and others black does not prove (or even support evolution).
Nor, as you well know, did I say it was. Turning a wolf into a chihuahua is very different from changing hair color.
Look, the point here is evolution is just as much about faith as a creationist point of view.
That is a new point you are trying to introduce, but you saying it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong. There are these things called facts and evidence. These tend to support evolution. Creation is only supported by some myths some desert nomads came up with several thousand years ago.
my only concern is that (in the US anyway) evolution is taught as the only explaination of human existince. I wish it was taught as another possible theory rather than treat most of the time as fact.
Propose another explanation that is consistent with facts. Creation doesn't cut it. Do you really want every crack pot theory anyone makes up being given equal weight? If you just want your view added without putting in anything alse anybody else makes up, then you're being inconsistent.
OK so as 50 people have already pointed out, sound can't exist in space because sound waves are vibrations and there are no air molecules in space for a 'sound' to vibrate, but has it occured to anyone else yet that there wasn't any space for this sound to exist in either?
As 50 people have been refuted and corrected but you still don't seem to get it here goes:
All the matter in the universe was packed together. *That is a freaking medium through which sound can move*
This was done over a time period of over 700,000 years of the expansion of the universe. *That is the space in which the vibrations occur*
Note: there is so much stuff that the matter density was still pretty high after this period of expansion.
That was said a crapload of times already. Cripes.
Wrong... There is ZERO hard evidence to PROVE evolution.
Ever seen a chihuahua? A seedless watermelon?
100% proof positive that evolution is a fact and even that we can control it to our own ends. Don't think this actually proves my point? Then it's clear that you don't even know what is being discussed here.
Since when Did the distribution and misrepresentation of property not your own become an act of good?
Misrepresentation? You'll need to provide some scrap of evidence for this. As to the rest of your question, Since forever when it is an issue this important.
no-one would have the right to distribute them with out express permission from Diebold. Are some people just that dense that they cannot grasp this concept?
I grasp it completely. I also understand that as a patriot and citizen of a free society that I have a fundamental duty to do things which are illegal when the laws themselves are corrupt or are being used by corrupt entities to hide corrupt actions.
It's a little thing known as integrity. You should look it up. Living with integrity actually takes courage which, I'm sure, you are also without.
No, it's not *just* a sig. It's a sig of a person working for a company that is actively trying to remove any possibility of citizens being able to elect their own leaders in the US.
Another station or media outlet would be ready to take you in, if you really put your ass on the line for something that turned out to really be ground breaking.
Even if it cost your previous station millions to defend from slander and/or libel suits? Even if it cost them millions more in advertising revenues because the story painted a major advertiser in a negative light; or brought down a political leader whose actions were harmful to the republic and to the citizens but very profitable to that advertizer or to the corporation who owns said station?
I suspect it isn't as cut and dried as you are making it.
They're not only smoking, they're eating random mushrooms at the same time and the judege should throw their tripping asses out of court until they come back clean and straight.
Let's hope they eat a few toadstools while they're at it.
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How hard do you have to twist to come up with such intellectually dishonest ideas such as these?
Isreal was the homeland of the Hebrews. This is a historical fact acknowledged by all of the relevant parties and supported by objective archealogical evidence.
Much less hard than you, obviously.
If you read the bible, you will see the bit where god told the jews that that was meant to be their land and that they should take it.
Which they did.
Butchering every man, woman, and child who was already living there.
It actually brags about this bit.
Pull your head out of your ass and realise that the Israelis are scumbags and the Palestinians are as well.
Playing favorites oin this battle is the worst sort of intellectual dishonesty.
Hell, I get paranoid enough on /., myself. It seems that any post making light of a Republican gets modded as a troll/off topic. Perhaps Ashcroft has penetrated /. with thousands of mod points? jk
I haven't actually done a statistical analysis, but from casual observation it looks like pro repub/anti dem and anti repub/pro dem posts get modded down by mods with an ax to grind at fairly equal frequencies.
The geese border on pestilence now. Just TRY to walk across an office parking lot next to a lawn without stepping on a goose or their "fertilizer" waste-product.
Tell me about it, Dude.
I work in the north burbs of Chicago and they're a plague.
They call them "Corporate Geese" cause they're all over the business park lawns. The fuckers got so lazy they don't even freaking migrate any more. Have you ever seen a Chicago winter?!? Dumb ass geese.
SCO distributed Linux for a long time after they had started their legal proceedings, and I'm damn sure this is going to have an effect on the case.
Possibly it will have an affect, but...
It should be obvious that he wants to save his arse for distributing stuff under the GPL for so long, and the fact that he faces copyright infringement of his own even if the GPL is invalid.
See the top quoted bit.
If they are distributing it under the GPL, then they are not guilty of copyright infringement.
Whether or not they are guilty of fraud for billing people for code they don't own is a different issue.
They've spewed a bunch of crap to the press, but have they actually sent out any invoices?
If not, then they aren't even guilty of fraud.
Lying to a reporter isn't illegal AFAIK. It's a reporters job to have a good BS detector and use it, but the media in this country have been a pathetic joke for years.
but this whole SCO thing is so publicly damaging for the GPL and Linux, and the fact way the media and the stock markets work is that one is automatically guilty when one makes no good comment.
That seems to be the only possible purpose for this whole fiasco, since they obviously can't make money selling Linux for long even in the worst case scenario.
Why they want to do this is the real mystery.
SLANDER!! Tux is NOT GAY!
Tux isn't a guy in a penguin suit, either.
(Just as we do not, for ethical reasons, use information that the Nazis gleaned from their experimentation on the Jews in World War II.
Well, except for the fact that we did use the data the Nazis collected. How do you think we got organ and limb transplants among many other techniques so quickly? I'm not sure what ethical principle you are referring to. The one about if someone is horribly tortured and murdered that we should ensure that their death serves no useful purpose at all rather than allowing what good we can to come from their sacrifice?
I can't say I like your "ethics" very much.
Or a society where a few people worked in order to support lazy assed jackasses.
Being a lazy jackass isn't altruistic though, is it?
Actually that is the selfish thing to do in that situation. So you are reinforcing his point.
I find it sad that parts of our society are so devoid of virtue that they deny its existence.
I find it sad that pretentious holier than thou dipshits like yourself think that what you do is moral and what other people do is immoral.
Now, I'm not trying to damn or judge anyone for mistakes they've made, but it's pathetic that so many call evil good and good evil.
Of course you are. You said people who look at porn are engaging in "immoral" actions.
It is truly pathetic that you call something which is morally ambiguous "evil".
Dirty images and thoughts cause you to value women only for sexual reasons and leads to the treatment of women as objects.
Perhaps that's what it does for you, in which case I'm very happy that you choose to refrain from engaging in that activity. If you are this badly miswired, I suspect that this will happen even without that particular influence.
But the rest of us who don't have a natural predisposition toward misogyny have no such problems thanks.
If you are married or eventually plan to be married, wouldn't you want to be clean of addiction to pr0n and immoral thoughts so that your wife can trust that you value her as a person and love her for who she is and not just for her body?
I am married. Therefore I'm glad that I am as free and open minded as possible to ensure that I can be the best husband I can be in all situations.
There are times when I need to listen very attentatively, provide support, and generally treat her like the queen she is.
There are other times, though, when depraved "immoral" thoughts and actions are exactly what she needs from me. There are situations when I've told her, "This isn't about love. This is about me needing to pound the hell out of your tight little body" and such things. At the time, that was exactly what she needed from me and we *both* had a great fucking time.
Now, I suspect you'll probably think that is "immoral" as well. At that point I can just pity you.
The rod spoken of is a shepards' crook ("thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me"), not a stick for beating children. Guidance, not violence, is what is being prescribed.
;-)
Right, so the saying says that when they screw up you need to grab them by the neck with a stick and drag them away for their beating
The BIBLE (God's word and basis for Christian Faith) details homosexuality as a sin, an abomination in God's eye, and a self-destructive lifesytle.
That is the old testament with the god of anger and hatred and such.
The new testament had this guy called Jesus who said things about loving everybody equally, not judging and such.
Besides which, GWB swore an oath to defend the constitution, not his particular hypocritical hate filled brand of Christianity. By saying that, no all men are not created equal. Those people are evil and do not deserve the rights that good god-fearing (and apparently freedom hating) Americans deserve, he violated that oath.
If you read this, you will see that he did not judge anyone. God made the judgement (The only one who has the right to "Play God").
Again, that's old testament. GWB claims to be Christian.
Yes, he did judge. Had GWB or any other extremist-wacko Christians (no that is *not* redundant) any actual faith in their god, then they would let him do his job and stay the fuck out of his way rather than explicitly violating his orders to promote their hatred.
But I wouldn't say that self-styled republicans are "led" by people like Limbaugh, though -- it's probably more likely that they just like to hear him talking up views that they came to rationally in the first place.
Given that Limbaugh merely spews hatred whether or not there is any actual basis to what he says, I don't think it would be possible to reach those views "rationally".
This is, I assume, why democrats like people like Michael Moore, who while a total liar , is still well liked by a lot of self-styled liberals.
Ah, a link to more made up hatred with no basis in fact. Perhaps you would care to go to Michael Moore's own site where he actually responds to these ridiculous lies ( which only a complete moron would actually believe in the first place).
This is exactly what I and the original poster are saying. You have rabid morons spewing hateful lies and the people, like yourself, who are too dumb to actually think, research, or do much besides swallow and puke back up the drivel you slurp up because it agrees with your own hates.
Seriously, decent human beings are getting very tired of your ignorance affecting our lives.
Try and act like you have some sense of decency for once in your life and quit spreading the hate-filled lies you have been fed.
As for your username... nothing I can do to find it :)
You could do what I did and look at the post directly above yours ( assuming you're in flat mode).
Yea, like that dammned butterfly that flaps its wings in Brazil and fucks up the weather in Scotland...
Damn, that little bug is working overtime.
OH yes, a man, involved in a plot to kill the current government to start a Catholic Jihad and take over Government is someone w/ "Honest Intentions".
Assuming these were his intentions and he stated them as such then they were honest intentions.
Perhaps not honorable but that really depends on which side of the debate you're on.
This is in contrast to elected officials who say anything to get elected and then do other things.
His decision was not based on any sort of PC attitude.
It was based on not having his work used to manipulate, confuse, and and disturb someone going through a very difficult period of their life by people with an agenda to push as he very clearly stated.
It seems like the right decision considering you have already twisted his decision not to write it to support your own "anti-PC" agenda.
Macro vs. Micro
Whatever. Evolution is evolution.
The fact that some people have blond and others black does not prove (or even support evolution).
Nor, as you well know, did I say it was. Turning a wolf into a chihuahua is very different from changing hair color.
Look, the point here is evolution is just as much about faith as a creationist point of view.
That is a new point you are trying to introduce, but you saying it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.
There are these things called facts and evidence. These tend to support evolution. Creation is only supported by some myths some desert nomads came up with several thousand years ago.
my only concern is that (in the US anyway) evolution is taught as the only explaination of human existince. I wish it was taught as another possible theory rather than treat most of the time as fact.
Propose another explanation that is consistent with facts. Creation doesn't cut it. Do you really want every crack pot theory anyone makes up being given equal weight? If you just want your view added without putting in anything alse anybody else makes up, then you're being inconsistent.
I know Pascal's wager, but what is Tumbleweed's quandry?
That would be the subject of this thread.
Tumbleweed proposed it and Planesdragon helpfully copied it in his reply.
OK so as 50 people have already pointed out, sound can't exist in space because sound waves are vibrations and there are no air molecules in space for a 'sound' to vibrate, but has it occured to anyone else yet that there wasn't any space for this sound to exist in either?
As 50 people have been refuted and corrected but you still don't seem to get it here goes:
All the matter in the universe was packed together. *That is a freaking medium through which sound can move*
This was done over a time period of over 700,000 years of the expansion of the universe.
*That is the space in which the vibrations occur*
Note: there is so much stuff that the matter density was still pretty high after this period of expansion.
That was said a crapload of times already.
Cripes.
Wrong... There is ZERO hard evidence to PROVE evolution.
Ever seen a chihuahua? A seedless watermelon?
100% proof positive that evolution is a fact and even that we can control it to our own ends.
Don't think this actually proves my point? Then it's clear that you don't even know what is being discussed here.
Abiogenesis is a totally different subject.
Since when Did the distribution and misrepresentation of property not your own become an act of good?
Misrepresentation? You'll need to provide some scrap of evidence for this. As to the rest of your question, Since forever when it is an issue this important.
no-one would have the right to distribute them with out express permission from Diebold. Are some people just that dense that they cannot grasp this concept?
I grasp it completely.
I also understand that as a patriot and citizen of a free society that I have a fundamental duty to do things which are illegal when the laws themselves are corrupt or are being used by corrupt entities to hide corrupt actions.
It's a little thing known as integrity. You should look it up. Living with integrity actually takes courage which, I'm sure, you are also without.
But it's just a sig!!! I
No, it's not *just* a sig.
It's a sig of a person working for a company that is actively trying to remove any possibility of citizens being able to elect their own leaders in the US.
That is why it is frightening.
Another station or media outlet would be ready to take you in, if you really put your ass on the line for something that turned out to really be ground breaking.
Even if it cost your previous station millions to defend from slander and/or libel suits?
Even if it cost them millions more in advertising revenues because the story painted a major advertiser in a negative light; or brought down a political leader whose actions were harmful to the republic and to the citizens but very profitable to that advertizer or to the corporation who owns said station?
I suspect it isn't as cut and dried as you are making it.
Well terrorists have been attacking us since we have been in Iraq till this point in time, but i guess that doesnt mean there is any link..... naaaah
Native people fighting against an occupying force are known as freedom fighters, not terrorists.
ry again sparky.
There are a lot of problems with the media, but a basic inability to question government is not one of them.
That is, absolutely, the primary problem with the American media. Please pull your head out of your ass and inform yourself.
They're not only smoking, they're eating random mushrooms at the same time and the judege should throw their tripping asses out of court until they come back clean and straight.
Let's hope they eat a few toadstools while they're at it.