Many people use a single external drive as a backup. The drive sits next to the PC it is backing up. A fire/flood/whatever can take them both out.
If you're going to use a HDD as a backup make sure you have multilpe copies (say three) with at least two being offsite. That way if your home/worksite is destroyed your data is on two other HDDs away from the calamity. It is unlikely that two HDDs will fail at the same time, but just having one HDD for irreplaceable data is just a big risk.
I would NOT trust a single box (no matter how many HDDS) to be a safe place for must-have data. You have backups and that is good.
I had a power supply start putting out 18 volts on the 12 volt rail and smoke two HDDs in the same box. (It had one HDD . . . I replaced it . . . the replacement died quickly.) Had that machine been a 12 bay monster I would have lost 12 HDDs. For me there was no-big loss because all I lost was the HDD itself and the time it took to re-install the OS and software. Data was drag-and-dropped across the network.
Instead I mirror my data to two other Boxes (2 at home, 1 offsite at work.) Truely critical things (Family photos, home videos) are also backed up to multilpe DVD copies and sent to family members (they think I am sharing, but they are just offsite backup:P)
I'm a Mac user and my hard drives have lasted.... Umm Forever(+5 years) Wait scratch that, One drive died in a power surge when I yanked the cords to save the computer from a burning building (don't ask) But I read about windows users replacing drives every year or so... Now Apple uses IBM Drives and I've always upgraded with the same are they just better or is HFS HFS+ just that much gentler on the disks than FAT16 and FAT32
I'm a PC user. I have lost two HDDs (in the same machine) to a faulty power supply. The HDD went out, I replaced it. The replacement went out in short order(hours.) I pulled the swapped the mo-bo with a known good one and put a multimeter across the opwer supply. 18 volts on the 12 volt rail. Glad I didn't just throw in ANOTHER HDD based on the asumption that the mo-bo was the only potentialy bad component.
Other than they I buy new HDDs when they fill up.
I put old ones out of service when they feel restrictive in their capacity.
I have four boxes (work, home, laptop, game system.) The Work, Home, and Game machines have HDD#1 in the 40-80GB range for the OS drive. HDD#2 varries in size from 120-200GB. The Home box has a third HDD, a 200GB model. The laptop has the factory 20GB drive.
As the drives get crowded I replace them with larger (and usualy lower price) HDDs. The old storage/media HDDs get turned into OS drives. My most valueable data (Home Videos, Photos, work stuff) are duplicated on at least two drives in each machine. When a file is updated on the home or game system it will be copied to the 2nd HDD in the machine. If the matching file on the other machine is not changed then the new update on the file is copied to the HDDs of the other machine.
Matching the Work machine to the Home and Game systems involves drag-and-drop and a smaller USB HDD.
My system is probably not typical. The Game system is also our HTPC and the HOME system is the bittorent machine. They really use up disk space. The mirroring of critical files in a non-raid system of multiple HDDS is also not likely to be typical; I don't trust anything important to a single HDD or even to multiple HDDs in the same box(after having a Power Supply fry HDDs.)
I also backup my files on a monthly basis to DVD.
I donate my "discarded" HDDs when I put them out of service. Usualy I keep a HDD in service for two to four years. Although the 200GB drive on the bittorent machine is a little tight for space . . . if you think of "only" 30GB free as short on space.
All the machines use FAT16 or 32. Other than the PS incident I have yet to have a HDD fail.
YouTube requires agreement to their TOS when one posts a video. The poster is liable for the conents of the video. YouTube complies with takedown notices. So if you don't like something that goes onto YouTube and you have the legal rights to it, you ask YouTube to take it down, and it's gone. Who the hell needs to waste time and money on a lawsuit when single letter ("Get my stuff off your site, here are the URLS") will get your content off YouTube. Taking up a suit against a company that is so compliant with takedown requests is only a moneygrab or an act of malice ("Let's sue them into bankrupcy, I can afford more lawyer time then they can.")
I can't speak for the parent but if motion pictures work at 24 FPS and a (NTSC) TV screen refreshesh at 30 HZ (two scans at 60hz.) Even if a console can pull more than 30 FPS would it nost be wasted on a TV screen? So I am going to guess the first poster used 30FPS as a point of refrence to match consoles.
That would make sense. If you want to conduct an experiment (even a thought experiment) you make it a point to manipulate your variables descretely.
[snip comments about high framerate being better than pretty gfx]Us real gamers know where our priorities lie.
I guess that means real gamers would not use a game system or PC that is constrained by a display system that is frame limited to 30 full refreshes a second (again assuming NTSC TV.)Thus it follows that real gamers don't use consoles?
On vacation out of state my wife got a "camera chip" (SD) for my CF using camera. She opened the package and got the SD chip to rattle around in the CF slot. The blister-pack packaging was torn to shreds. I returned to the same wal-mart with the receipt, the SD card, and the remains of the packaging and asked to get a credit for the value of the SD card put towards the price of a CF card of higher capacity(and higher price!)
End result, wasted time in line at customer service, more time wasted at CS while photo dept got off it's lazy ass(okay, maybe they were busy) and sent someone over. Decision made to NOT accept an exchange or return on the product as it was "FILM" for digital cameras and had been opened and "used" (again, my camera uses CF and can't write to SD.) Additionaly they said they could not take back the SD card because it was not in a condition to be resold.
Target: Back at home I took the card to Target, said it was non-functional (of course I didn't give them the wal-mart receipt.) They issued a store credit and I bought a larger CF card using the gift-card and additional funds.
Oh yes, the vacation was NOT ruined. I bought a pack of DVD-+Rs at a local computer store and burned the contents of my current CF cards to 3 dvd copies [using a machine on their sales floor] (confirmed all 3 copies were readable by the in-dash dvd player and looked at a sample of the photos) then erased and re-used the CF card I had on hand.
Walmart service (to me) has been crap. The prices are okay on most things but the people...don't get me started.
Uhm, no. The flinger on the moon didn't use high G(as I remember, it was a multi-mile long system) or aerodynamic shells (lack of atmosphere on the moon.) But, the comment about it becoming target number one . . . okay, maybe.
Realisticly, target #1 would still be all those nuke tipped missiles in silos that dot the american and rusian landscapes.
Then the kids who haven't bought the music need to repeatedly go to the kid who has, in order to get their new time-limited free copies.)
Then the kids who haven't bought the meth lab need to repeatedly go to the kid who has, in order to get their new dime bag for the day. I think I've seen this business model somewhere before.
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As muscles and connective tisues dry they contract. The contraction of muscles makes us move. The contraction of muscles in these fosilised critters bends thir necks.
Quote: Well, I remember back on my 14.4 modem... those text pages loaded like the wind. I was on top of the world... Then those damned pictures started cropping up on websites. Pictures on the internet? Ha! Then came the 56.6k modem which showed those pictures who were boss. No problems. Oh wait, online gaming? File sharing? Cable and DSL save the day. More than adequate
Reply: I beg to differ. I have [cough] friends that download movi^H^H^H^H^H content from the internet, and some dvd rips^H^H^H^H^H^H^H database files can be larger than 4GB! Even at a good (cheap) DSL line of 1KBPS it still takes quite alot longer to download content than it would take to go to blockbuster^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the office and pick up physical media with the data on it.
I listen to alot of audio books. Some of the unabriged ones run well over the 6 hours I can feed into a CD changer. Currently I either use a FLASH based MP3 player or small DVD player with MP3 support to playback audiobooks (DVD player stays in the car, MP3 player when I am going to spend any significant time out of the car.)
Also the inconvience of burning multiple CDR/RW is much greater than that of burning a single DVD or syncing up a mp3 player. This is why CDRS are not a good solution for me when it comes to listening to MP3s.
How to talk like a pirate: I burned a copy of that new release I torrented from that leet warez site. I circumvented the DRM on that DVD and have it up on a p2p network already.
The real problem is this, the HDD read/write head. It is a floating part. When the IPOD accelerates (shot, hit by RPG, thrown about by an explosive overpressure wave, whatever) the RW head, being a floating part will accelerate only AFTER all the flex in the system is used, the shock to this mechanism may damage it.
Also we will see another failure mode here: The rest of the IPOD may be moving serval miles per hour by the time the RW head gets into motion. The result is a slow RW head striking a fast moving HDD platter (another fragile part.)
The reverse will be seen if the IPOD strikes any solid unmoving object(THE GROUND!) before coming to rest. The IPOD and all rigidly affixed parts will go from sever MPH to a dead stop quite quickly. The flex in the RW head will allow the RW head to continue in motion until the RW head strikes those fragile HD platters. If the RW arm were still stressed from the acceleration then any energy stored in the arm will also be added to the impact when the RW arm tries to bounce back to a neutral position (think WHIP!)
YOU: Hate to disappoint you, but no cop will bother with fingerprints for a simple auto burglary.
ME: Untrue. Careful with broad all-encompassing statements.
YOU: It's a simple matter of priorities. There are way too many things for the police to do than track down petty criminals.
ME: Correct.
If officers are sitting on alot of crap calls (no crime commited, just bitchy neighbor complaints about barking dogs or music in the daytime hours, etc.) they will often take the five minutes to print a car about the top of the "doorjamb," around the doorhandle, and in locations likely to be touched in the comission of a crime (say a dashboard if a piece of installed equiptment is stolen, think radio, dvd, sat-nav.) If any prints look very good they will take a lift and file them along with their report of stolen property.
Sure, your stolen ipod won't get shoved to the front of the live-scan line, it will be bumped to the end of the que by just about any other crime with fingerprint evidence.
Crimes like theft are often commited by repeat offenders, and thus these criminals will have prints on file. A print left in a "low profile" crime can lead to a routine request for an arrest warrant. Of course this won't lead to a SWAT raid on the perps residence, but next time he/she cheks in with their PO, gets a traffic violation, or somehow draws the attention of the law enforcement community, the cuffs will go on and they'll be jailed right away for violating their terms of release and may see additional time from the new crime.
This process requires very little effort (no major investment of time or money... lifting a print is dirt cheap next to sequencing DNA for example) and makes for an easy bust down the road.
Now, when you call in your car that's been broken into you might wait [quite] a few hours to get an officer out to take a report because it is indeed a low priority call [no life in danger, not in progress, and not likely to lead to a quick apprehension even when a quick response is made.]
If a department has, or at some point in the past had, the funding to train the average patrol officer to lift prints then you may receive this kind of service (smaller towns like El Monte CA [higher crime rate] and Fullerton CA [lower crime rate] both do this, neither being particulary large in population [relative to their neighboring cities in the LA Metro area.])
It's cheaper to have officers collect "basic evidence" than to have an officer wait on scene for a specalist in evidence collection to clear their currrently pending calls and respond to a crime that's quite low priority. When a city dosen't have, or never has had, the funding to do this then you end up with simple theft being a purely paper crime (where the only response to the crime is a piece of paper[a report] and no other action is taken regarding the crime.)
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security] lameinnocentguy: Dude, the Holland tunnel sucks. B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security] anotherlameinnocentguy: Yeah, the traffic always is screwed up there. T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security] B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security] lameinnocentguy: That's why I always use the trains when I can. T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security] B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security] T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security] B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: You are all under a-fucking-rest I pwn your n00b asses.
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security]
lameinnocentguy: Dude, the Holland tunnel sucks.
B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security]
anotherlameinnocentguy: Yeah, the traffic always is screwed up there.
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security]
B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security]
lameinnocentguy: That's why I always use the trains when I can.
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security]
B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security]
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Many people use a single external drive as a backup. The drive sits next to the PC it is backing up. A fire/flood/whatever can take them both out.
If you're going to use a HDD as a backup make sure you have multilpe copies (say three) with at least two being offsite. That way if your home/worksite is destroyed your data is on two other HDDs away from the calamity. It is unlikely that two HDDs will fail at the same time, but just having one HDD for irreplaceable data is just a big risk.
I would NOT trust a single box (no matter how many HDDS) to be a safe place for must-have data. You have backups and that is good.
:P)
I had a power supply start putting out 18 volts on the 12 volt rail and smoke two HDDs in the same box. (It had one HDD . . . I replaced it . . . the replacement died quickly.) Had that machine been a 12 bay monster I would have lost 12 HDDs. For me there was no-big loss because all I lost was the HDD itself and the time it took to re-install the OS and software. Data was drag-and-dropped across the network.
Instead I mirror my data to two other Boxes (2 at home, 1 offsite at work.) Truely critical things (Family photos, home videos) are also backed up to multilpe DVD copies and sent to family members (they think I am sharing, but they are just offsite backup
I'm a Mac user and my hard drives have lasted.... Umm Forever(+5 years)
Wait scratch that, One drive died in a power surge when I yanked the cords
to save the computer from a burning building (don't ask)
But I read about windows users replacing drives every year or so...
Now Apple uses IBM Drives and I've always upgraded with the same
are they just better or is HFS HFS+ just that much gentler on the disks than FAT16 and FAT32
I'm a PC user. I have lost two HDDs (in the same machine) to a faulty power supply. The HDD went out, I replaced it. The replacement went out in short order(hours.) I pulled the swapped the mo-bo with a known good one and put a multimeter across the opwer supply. 18 volts on the 12 volt rail. Glad I didn't just throw in ANOTHER HDD based on the asumption that the mo-bo was the only potentialy bad component.
Other than they I buy new HDDs when they fill up.
I put old ones out of service when they feel restrictive in their capacity.
I have four boxes (work, home, laptop, game system.) The Work, Home, and Game machines have HDD#1 in the 40-80GB range for the OS drive. HDD#2 varries in size from 120-200GB. The Home box has a third HDD, a 200GB model. The laptop has the factory 20GB drive.
As the drives get crowded I replace them with larger (and usualy lower price) HDDs. The old storage/media HDDs get turned into OS drives. My most valueable data (Home Videos, Photos, work stuff) are duplicated on at least two drives in each machine. When a file is updated on the home or game system it will be copied to the 2nd HDD in the machine. If the matching file on the other machine is not changed then the new update on the file is copied to the HDDs of the other machine.
Matching the Work machine to the Home and Game systems involves drag-and-drop and a smaller USB HDD.
My system is probably not typical. The Game system is also our HTPC and the HOME system is the bittorent machine. They really use up disk space. The mirroring of critical files in a non-raid system of multiple HDDS is also not likely to be typical; I don't trust anything important to a single HDD or even to multiple HDDs in the same box(after having a Power Supply fry HDDs.)
I also backup my files on a monthly basis to DVD.
I donate my "discarded" HDDs when I put them out of service. Usualy I keep a HDD in service for two to four years. Although the 200GB drive on the bittorent machine is a little tight for space . . . if you think of "only" 30GB free as short on space.
All the machines use FAT16 or 32. Other than the PS incident I have yet to have a HDD fail.
"according to the law, he's... uh... right."
YouTube requires agreement to their TOS when one posts a video. The poster is liable for the conents of the video. YouTube complies with takedown notices. So if you don't like something that goes onto YouTube and you have the legal rights to it, you ask YouTube to take it down, and it's gone. Who the hell needs to waste time and money on a lawsuit when single letter ("Get my stuff off your site, here are the URLS") will get your content off YouTube. Taking up a suit against a company that is so compliant with takedown requests is only a moneygrab or an act of malice ("Let's sue them into bankrupcy, I can afford more lawyer time then they can.")
WOW someone needs to rediscover the paragraph.
I can't speak for the parent but if motion pictures work at 24 FPS and a (NTSC) TV screen refreshesh at 30 HZ (two scans at 60hz.) Even if a console can pull more than 30 FPS would it nost be wasted on a TV screen? So I am going to guess the first poster used 30FPS as a point of refrence to match consoles.
That would make sense. If you want to conduct an experiment (even a thought experiment) you make it a point to manipulate your variables descretely.
[snip comments about high framerate being better than pretty gfx]Us real gamers know where our priorities lie.
I guess that means real gamers would not use a game system or PC that is constrained by a display system that is frame limited to 30 full refreshes a second (again assuming NTSC TV.)Thus it follows that real gamers don't use consoles?
Given that this story is about Nielsens problems you left out a story
Media company has difficulty getting information on media use in the age of the internet.
Who needs a girlfriend when you have five comfort games.
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 08, @09:29PM (#16360055)
It scares the hell out of me.
You sir need a comfort game.
Careful with that nano word there. Apple has a track-record of going after people with names that even seem to be slightly associated with their products. iWhatever, whateverPOD (mypod), PODwhaterver(Podcastready).
Don't want NASA to become the next target for using NANO satelites. Hell, anyone into NANOtech could have problems.
Walmart:
On vacation out of state my wife got a "camera chip" (SD) for my CF using camera. She opened the package and got the SD chip to rattle around in the CF slot. The blister-pack packaging was torn to shreds. I returned to the same wal-mart with the receipt, the SD card, and the remains of the packaging and asked to get a credit for the value of the SD card put towards the price of a CF card of higher capacity(and higher price!)
End result, wasted time in line at customer service, more time wasted at CS while photo dept got off it's lazy ass(okay, maybe they were busy) and sent someone over. Decision made to NOT accept an exchange or return on the product as it was "FILM" for digital cameras and had been opened and "used" (again, my camera uses CF and can't write to SD.) Additionaly they said they could not take back the SD card because it was not in a condition to be resold.
Target:
Back at home I took the card to Target, said it was non-functional (of course I didn't give them the wal-mart receipt.) They issued a store credit and I bought a larger CF card using the gift-card and additional funds.
Oh yes, the vacation was NOT ruined. I bought a pack of DVD-+Rs at a local computer store and burned the contents of my current CF cards to 3 dvd copies [using a machine on their sales floor] (confirmed all 3 copies were readable by the in-dash dvd player and looked at a sample of the photos) then erased and re-used the CF card I had on hand.
Walmart service (to me) has been crap. The prices are okay on most things but the people...don't get me started.
Uhm, no. The flinger on the moon didn't use high G(as I remember, it was a multi-mile long system) or aerodynamic shells (lack of atmosphere on the moon.) But, the comment about it becoming target number one . . . okay, maybe.
Realisticly, target #1 would still be all those nuke tipped missiles in silos that dot the american and rusian landscapes.
Then the kids who haven't bought the music need to repeatedly go to the kid who has, in order to get their new time-limited free copies.)
Then the kids who haven't bought the meth lab need to repeatedly go to the kid who has, in order to get their new dime bag for the day. I think I've seen this business model somewhere before.
As muscles and connective tisues dry they contract. The contraction of muscles makes us move. The contraction of muscles in these fosilised critters bends thir necks.
At Sony they subscribe to String Theory and Brane theory. Space is not three dimensional.
Seriously. Here is it
Stick 1 - X, Y, Z(press the stick)
Stick 2 - X, Y, Z(again press the stick)
Motion sensor X, Y, Z (Assuming the sensor works in 3 dimensions.)
Theoreticly it could be Nineaxis instead of Sixaxis
I always thought they looked like this.
The internet isn't a truck you can't just keep dumping things on it and expect it to go. It's a series of tubes and they are getting filled up!
Quote:
Well, I remember back on my 14.4 modem... those text pages loaded like the wind. I was on top of the world... Then those damned pictures started cropping up on websites. Pictures on the internet? Ha! Then came the 56.6k modem which showed those pictures who were boss. No problems. Oh wait, online gaming? File sharing ? Cable and DSL save the day. More than adequate
Reply:
I beg to differ. I have [cough] friends that download movi^H^H^H^H^H content from the internet, and some dvd rips^H^H^H^H^H^H^H database files can be larger than 4GB! Even at a good (cheap) DSL line of 1KBPS it still takes quite alot longer to download content than it would take to go to blockbuster^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the office and pick up physical media with the data on it.
I listen to alot of audio books. Some of the unabriged ones run well over the 6 hours I can feed into a CD changer. Currently I either use a FLASH based MP3 player or small DVD player with MP3 support to playback audiobooks (DVD player stays in the car, MP3 player when I am going to spend any significant time out of the car.)
Also the inconvience of burning multiple CDR/RW is much greater than that of burning a single DVD or syncing up a mp3 player. This is why CDRS are not a good solution for me when it comes to listening to MP3s.
You guys have it all wrong.
How to talk like a pirate:
I burned a copy of that new release I torrented from that leet warez site.
I circumvented the DRM on that DVD and have it up on a p2p network already.
The real problem is this, the HDD read/write head. It is a floating part. When the IPOD accelerates (shot, hit by RPG, thrown about by an explosive overpressure wave, whatever) the RW head, being a floating part will accelerate only AFTER all the flex in the system is used, the shock to this mechanism may damage it.
Also we will see another failure mode here: The rest of the IPOD may be moving serval miles per hour by the time the RW head gets into motion. The result is a slow RW head striking a fast moving HDD platter (another fragile part.)
The reverse will be seen if the IPOD strikes any solid unmoving object(THE GROUND!) before coming to rest. The IPOD and all rigidly affixed parts will go from sever MPH to a dead stop quite quickly. The flex in the RW head will allow the RW head to continue in motion until the RW head strikes those fragile HD platters. If the RW arm were still stressed from the acceleration then any energy stored in the arm will also be added to the impact when the RW arm tries to bounce back to a neutral position (think WHIP!)
YOU:
Hate to disappoint you, but no cop will bother with fingerprints for a simple auto burglary.
ME:
Untrue. Careful with broad all-encompassing statements.
YOU:
It's a simple matter of priorities. There are way too many things for the police to do than track down petty criminals.
ME:
Correct.
If officers are sitting on alot of crap calls (no crime commited, just bitchy neighbor complaints about barking dogs or music in the daytime hours, etc.) they will often take the five minutes to print a car about the top of the "doorjamb," around the doorhandle, and in locations likely to be touched in the comission of a crime (say a dashboard if a piece of installed equiptment is stolen, think radio, dvd, sat-nav.) If any prints look very good they will take a lift and file them along with their report of stolen property.
Sure, your stolen ipod won't get shoved to the front of the live-scan line, it will be bumped to the end of the que by just about any other crime with fingerprint evidence.
Crimes like theft are often commited by repeat offenders, and thus these criminals will have prints on file. A print left in a "low profile" crime can lead to a routine request for an arrest warrant. Of course this won't lead to a SWAT raid on the perps residence, but next time he/she cheks in with their PO, gets a traffic violation, or somehow draws the attention of the law enforcement community, the cuffs will go on and they'll be jailed right away for violating their terms of release and may see additional time from the new crime.
This process requires very little effort (no major investment of time or money... lifting a print is dirt cheap next to sequencing DNA for example) and makes for an easy bust down the road.
Now, when you call in your car that's been broken into you might wait [quite] a few hours to get an officer out to take a report because it is indeed a low priority call [no life in danger, not in progress, and not likely to lead to a quick apprehension even when a quick response is made.]
If a department has, or at some point in the past had, the funding to train the average patrol officer to lift prints then you may receive this kind of service (smaller towns like El Monte CA [higher crime rate] and Fullerton CA [lower crime rate] both do this, neither being particulary large in population [relative to their neighboring cities in the LA Metro area.])
It's cheaper to have officers collect "basic evidence" than to have an officer wait on scene for a specalist in evidence collection to clear their currrently pending calls and respond to a crime that's quite low priority. When a city dosen't have, or never has had, the funding to do this then you end up with simple theft being a purely paper crime (where the only response to the crime is a piece of paper[a report] and no other action is taken regarding the crime.)
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security]
lameinnocentguy: Dude, the Holland tunnel sucks.
B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security]
anotherlameinnocentguy: Yeah, the traffic always is screwed up there.
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security]
B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security]
lameinnocentguy: That's why I always use the trains when I can.
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security]
B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security]
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security]
B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: You are all under a-fucking-rest I pwn your n00b asses.
T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security] lameinnocentguy: Dude, the Holland tunnel sucks. B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security] anotherlameinnocentguy: Yeah, the traffic always is screwed up there. T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security] B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security] lameinnocentguy: That's why I always use the trains when I can. T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security] B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: [deleted in order to protect national security] T3rr0r15t: [deleted in order to protect national security] B1GGu|\|G-ma|\|: You are all under a-fucking-rest I pwn your n00b asses.
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