No it wouldn't. If 9/11 won't change humanity neither will any amount of science or exploration.
The change I'm talking about is humanity learning to love itself for what it is. It doesn't and at this rate I don't think it ever will. Axis of evil, anyone? We hate ourselves, its quite obvious.
Knowledge, science and engineering are valuable to society, but they do cost money and are always limited by our own economic concerns, which in the long run costs us more money. Until we can get on the same page and come to an understanding that science, not religion, politics or economics, is what has given us modern society and civilization I see no point in wasting money on space exploration.
Lets just hope another bloody nose doesn't send us spirally down into the depths of depression once again.
Personally I think our society is socially too weak to accomplish these things. We don't care about eachother enough to do them. The only reason we do them is to prove to eachother that some of us are better than the others. Which we all know is a lie. So I don't see the point in it anymore. Do you?
Its a waste of money. And I think we all know how valuable money is. I suggest we use it to make some of our depressed people feel a little better. It might not cost very much if we did it on TV, but building a pyramid is great too. Whatever floats your boat.
That's interesting. I heard one of the execs of LSI Logic recently bought himself a nice multi-million dollar home in the Los Altos hills, 23,000 sq ft.
Its a good thing all his employees lost their jobs and had to leave town. Makes traffic on 280 so much more pleasant.
I have no problems getting access to the internet. I just do it at work or when it is convenient. I use this new net called sneaker net. Its so fast, my bandwidth is about 10 times what I was getting through comcast cable, and doesn't have any spam or legal issues or fees. In fact the feds don't even know how to snoop it, yet.:)
I implore you to do without for as long as you can, if you think a boycott of these ISPs will give 'em a kick in their complacency, like I do.
They don't really want my money. I mean, just look at how they're acting. If they want my money they'll uncap uploads and stop bitching about anything related to bandwidth usage, the PATRIOT Act, DMCA, etc. etc. etc.
1. Do you see any Linux companies doing this? 2. Why not?
Jobs don't need to move and people don't need to move. People just got to pull their heads out of their asses and take a look around. We're all capable of learning how to innovate and be creative.
Take a psychology class sometime. To be creative, happy and innovative depends on your environment.
I maintain these corporations are not providing an environment that promotes creativity and innovation. It is their fault and they will pay for their mistakes. Unfortunately because we trust in them so much so will everyone else.
Its nice to see Novell switch sides before it was too late. I'm wondering why they didn't make this statement when the whole OSS community knew it. But maybe they're just slow. Can't expect too much from these capitalists.
I can't see how its any different than the partnerships google has already made. Its search quality has declined in the last few years, IMO. And I bet it will continue to decline as money become more important to the organization.
The Wintel duopoly will reach new heights with DRM and Trusted Computing.
I don't see how.
I won't pay for any of it and I won't support anyone who does. Without people like me encouraging my friends/family to use their technology I don't see how it will be very profitable for them. They still have to make back their costs developing all this junk.
Oh well. I guess they have to match the dumbed down state of their readers.
That's it exactly. Their readers don't seem to understand that the economic advantage of the internet comes from giving several billion people enough bandwidth to communicate and the freedom to communicate without restriction.
This makes people collaborate and do things, which in turn improves economies. Economies are based on GDP, which is based on how much stuff we do collectively, assuming we're doing stuff people want/need. So if you want to maximize economic potential maximize everyone's access to internet bandwidth and personal liberties. The rest will happen naturally on its own.
Think of it this way. Two brains are better than one, right? What about a billion brains, all thinking and working together for the common good?
When we talk about environmental issues I always like to put things into perspective by comparing them to at how automobiles impact our environment.
I bet more birds are killed every year by vehicles than by windmills. In fact I bet the environmental impact of millions of automobiles around the world is far worse than ANYTHING else. So until we want to do something about these very real environmental problems I see no reason to even speculate about the possibility of even remotely being concerned.
find a way to make the birds avoid the windmills? Do we know how to make sounds birds don't like? Or smells or other things to keep them from killing themselves on our windmills by the thoudsands?
Personally, this seems like natural selection, to me. A bird that dies by windmill probably deserves it. I've never been killed or felt threatened by a windmill. Have you?
Well.. if this is a network that spans the US, Russia and China I would expect it to be run over fiber.
The same strand of fiber should be able to handle up to terabit/byte speeds with the right hardware, assuming its backwards compatible, etc.
But building a whole new network every year when you need to upgrade would be good for the economy. It would make more jobs. So perhaps we should since we're obviously too lazy to figure out why we shouldn't.
The reason not to rebuild everything over and over again is to be conservative.. But why be conservative? Because we have a finite (read: not infinite) set of resources.
So something good for our short-term economy can be bad for our long-term society? Say it ain't so.
Look at it this way. Want to improve the economy? Just replace everything we made last year. The GDP will be enormous and the country will be prosperous until it runs out of resources. Its really quite simple, create a law that forces everyone to throw away their furnature and all their extra little pieces of property and buy new ones. Each and every year. Kinda like make-work-day, but for everyone. Or we could just tax everyone and buy new missles and planes and things every year. Oh wait.
Man, that sounds like fun! I could play this little game of capitalism for the rest of my life. You with me?
About the only advantage to having a 64-bit system I can see is the ability to edit a single 4GB+ file without breaking it up into smaller chunks and being able to read/write it to your filesystem.
The 4GB filesize limit of 32-bit systems was a pain when I was working with uncompressed video. But now most of the data I want takes up less than 2GB per file. All my DV is compressed at least 4:1 and I almost never use more than 512MB of RAM, even editing and processing this data.
It will be comforting to know that if I wanted to I could record a few weeks of video from my mini-DV cam into a single file. Maybe one of these days I'll find a use for something like that. But for right now 64-bit is just a new buzzword and a new generation of CPU technology.
Some ditros make keeping your system up2date easy. Some distros, like Fedora, seem to only patch security problems or minor revisions instead of updating entire subsystems.
Redhat changed their ftp daemon from wu-ftpd to the very secure ftpd between RedHat 7.x and 9, but none of those types of changes are propogated by their up2date system.
Linux can keep itself up2date when its properly built, but on a home or office network as a desktop install it shouldn't need a firewall or virus scanning software. It should be secure enough by default to prevent any automated attacks. And I think it is.
I won't be hacked because I won't invite a cracker into my apartment to play with my network. Sorry I had to get all racial on ya there.
Now in a production environment that's different. Whenever you put something live on the internet with an IP address you need protection. Protection usually comes in the form of a firewall or NAT router. Usually you would put any systems that serve the web on a DMZ with very fine holes poked through your firewall for specific IPs/MACs/ports, etc.
You would craft your network in such a way that an attacker would only be able to break in through a limited set of ports. You would keep a list of all ports that run on your DMZ and monitor when security exploits are released so you can patch everything ASAP, before an attacker has the ability to crack anything.
However, if you have an insane person monitoring your servers and the security boards 24/7 they may be able to hack their way in before you could patch your systems even if you do everything right. God forbid anyone walk into your building and gain physical access to the servers. Security is always going to be an illusion, but there is a comfort zone we can easy put ourselves in to feel relatively secure from automated attacks. Which is really all anyone wants. Else they become paranoid.
Capitalism turns productive citizens into tax-slaves.
Productive citizens come from a certain type of environment. That environment has things like education, freedom and property. Enough property that it doesn't appear to be "poor".
Add capitalism into the mix and we get what we have here today, which is the way we wants it, so now we gets it.
Life is time, time is money..
Money is symbolic of value and so it inherently has no value of its own. Its a variable.
Both life and time are infinitely valuable to someone who wants to live but has run out of time.
On your death bed how much would you be willing to pay to get back all the time you spent paying taxes and bills and managing your money? Would you even consider trading capitalism itself for just a little more time?
What if stress kills us slowly or shortens our lifespan? I wonder if anyone would be willing to trade all the stress caused by capitalism and christmas and property and keeping-up-with-the-joneses and bills and taxes and work and rush hour..
At least I can take some comforting knowing we will all be there in line wasting those precious seconds of our life together, just waiting..
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It would change humanity forever.
No it wouldn't. If 9/11 won't change humanity neither will any amount of science or exploration.
The change I'm talking about is humanity learning to love itself for what it is. It doesn't and at this rate I don't think it ever will. Axis of evil, anyone? We hate ourselves, its quite obvious.
Knowledge, science and engineering are valuable to society, but they do cost money and are always limited by our own economic concerns, which in the long run costs us more money. Until we can get on the same page and come to an understanding that science, not religion, politics or economics, is what has given us modern society and civilization I see no point in wasting money on space exploration.
Lets just hope another bloody nose doesn't send us spirally down into the depths of depression once again.
Personally I think our society is socially too weak to accomplish these things. We don't care about eachother enough to do them. The only reason we do them is to prove to eachother that some of us are better than the others. Which we all know is a lie. So I don't see the point in it anymore. Do you?
Its a waste of money. And I think we all know how valuable money is. I suggest we use it to make some of our depressed people feel a little better. It might not cost very much if we did it on TV, but building a pyramid is great too. Whatever floats your boat.
Who's actually going to waste^H^H^H^H^Hcast their vote in November?
That's interesting. I heard one of the execs of LSI Logic recently bought himself a nice multi-million dollar home in the Los Altos hills, 23,000 sq ft.
Its a good thing all his employees lost their jobs and had to leave town. Makes traffic on 280 so much more pleasant.
I guess a robotic donkey wouldn't be as cool as a robotic dog. Why do we even make these things resemble animals? They're made out of metal.
Military Intelligence for ya.
I have no problems getting access to the internet. I just do it at work or when it is convenient. I use this new net called sneaker net. Its so fast, my bandwidth is about 10 times what I was getting through comcast cable, and doesn't have any spam or legal issues or fees. In fact the feds don't even know how to snoop it, yet. :)
I implore you to do without for as long as you can, if you think a boycott of these ISPs will give 'em a kick in their complacency, like I do.
They don't really want my money. I mean, just look at how they're acting. If they want my money they'll uncap uploads and stop bitching about anything related to bandwidth usage, the PATRIOT Act, DMCA, etc. etc. etc.
HP, Intel, Dell, IBM, etc.
1. Do you see any Linux companies doing this?
2. Why not?
Jobs don't need to move and people don't need to move. People just got to pull their heads out of their asses and take a look around. We're all capable of learning how to innovate and be creative.
Take a psychology class sometime. To be creative, happy and innovative depends on your environment.
I maintain these corporations are not providing an environment that promotes creativity and innovation. It is their fault and they will pay for their mistakes. Unfortunately because we trust in them so much so will everyone else.
Its nice to see Novell switch sides before it was too late. I'm wondering why they didn't make this statement when the whole OSS community knew it. But maybe they're just slow. Can't expect too much from these capitalists.
Why blame democracy and the legislators when less than half the population bothers to vote?
With bills like this passing, and the media's perspective, such as with Arnold getting elected, who can blame them?
How many alternative candidates do we get to hear debate against our supreme leaders?
Haha!
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I told you so.
Neener neener STFU
Are they rocks? Cuz I thought they were rocks, flying really fast through space.
I wonder what would happen if one of them hit the ISS? Is the ISS's hull durable enough to withstand a meteor impact?
I can't see how its any different than the partnerships google has already made. Its search quality has declined in the last few years, IMO. And I bet it will continue to decline as money become more important to the organization.
Are there actually people out there demanding large high-power, high-heat, low-speed chips?
:)
Yeah? The P4 and gamers come to mind.
The Wintel duopoly will reach new heights with DRM and Trusted Computing.
I don't see how.
I won't pay for any of it and I won't support anyone who does. Without people like me encouraging my friends/family to use their technology I don't see how it will be very profitable for them. They still have to make back their costs developing all this junk.
Oh well. I guess they have to match the dumbed down state of their readers.
That's it exactly. Their readers don't seem to understand that the economic advantage of the internet comes from giving several billion people enough bandwidth to communicate and the freedom to communicate without restriction.
This makes people collaborate and do things, which in turn improves economies. Economies are based on GDP, which is based on how much stuff we do collectively, assuming we're doing stuff people want/need. So if you want to maximize economic potential maximize everyone's access to internet bandwidth and personal liberties. The rest will happen naturally on its own.
Think of it this way. Two brains are better than one, right? What about a billion brains, all thinking and working together for the common good?
Funny how some think they can sway public opinion with censorship, huh?
:)
Subtlety makes all the difference.
Humans must kill to survive...
I disagree.
Dumb animals must kill to survive. They are predestined to be scavengers and theives.
But humans are different. They aren't like the rest of the animals. They can educate themselves to not be dumb animals.
So why must we kill to survive?
How about automobiles?
When we talk about environmental issues I always like to put things into perspective by comparing them to at how automobiles impact our environment.
I bet more birds are killed every year by vehicles than by windmills. In fact I bet the environmental impact of millions of automobiles around the world is far worse than ANYTHING else. So until we want to do something about these very real environmental problems I see no reason to even speculate about the possibility of even remotely being concerned.
find a way to make the birds avoid the windmills? Do we know how to make sounds birds don't like? Or smells or other things to keep them from killing themselves on our windmills by the thoudsands?
Personally, this seems like natural selection, to me. A bird that dies by windmill probably deserves it. I've never been killed or felt threatened by a windmill. Have you?
Does this mean there's a wild pack of BSD zealots running around somewhere out there in the ether?
Well.. if this is a network that spans the US, Russia and China I would expect it to be run over fiber.
The same strand of fiber should be able to handle up to terabit/byte speeds with the right hardware, assuming its backwards compatible, etc.
But building a whole new network every year when you need to upgrade would be good for the economy. It would make more jobs. So perhaps we should since we're obviously too lazy to figure out why we shouldn't.
The reason not to rebuild everything over and over again is to be conservative.. But why be conservative? Because we have a finite (read: not infinite) set of resources.
So something good for our short-term economy can be bad for our long-term society? Say it ain't so.
Look at it this way. Want to improve the economy? Just replace everything we made last year. The GDP will be enormous and the country will be prosperous until it runs out of resources. Its really quite simple, create a law that forces everyone to throw away their furnature and all their extra little pieces of property and buy new ones. Each and every year. Kinda like make-work-day, but for everyone. Or we could just tax everyone and buy new missles and planes and things every year. Oh wait.
Man, that sounds like fun! I could play this little game of capitalism for the rest of my life. You with me?
I wanna 60nm G5 SMP system for under $2000.
:)
Or maybe a laptop for around $1200.
The longer it takes them to bring it to market the lower my pricepoint drops. So.. Hurry!
About the only advantage to having a 64-bit system I can see is the ability to edit a single 4GB+ file without breaking it up into smaller chunks and being able to read/write it to your filesystem.
The 4GB filesize limit of 32-bit systems was a pain when I was working with uncompressed video. But now most of the data I want takes up less than 2GB per file. All my DV is compressed at least 4:1 and I almost never use more than 512MB of RAM, even editing and processing this data.
It will be comforting to know that if I wanted to I could record a few weeks of video from my mini-DV cam into a single file. Maybe one of these days I'll find a use for something like that. But for right now 64-bit is just a new buzzword and a new generation of CPU technology.
More performance == good.
Some ditros make keeping your system up2date easy. Some distros, like Fedora, seem to only patch security problems or minor revisions instead of updating entire subsystems.
Redhat changed their ftp daemon from wu-ftpd to the very secure ftpd between RedHat 7.x and 9, but none of those types of changes are propogated by their up2date system.
Linux can keep itself up2date when its properly built, but on a home or office network as a desktop install it shouldn't need a firewall or virus scanning software. It should be secure enough by default to prevent any automated attacks. And I think it is.
I won't be hacked because I won't invite a cracker into my apartment to play with my network. Sorry I had to get all racial on ya there.
Now in a production environment that's different. Whenever you put something live on the internet with an IP address you need protection. Protection usually comes in the form of a firewall or NAT router. Usually you would put any systems that serve the web on a DMZ with very fine holes poked through your firewall for specific IPs/MACs/ports, etc.
You would craft your network in such a way that an attacker would only be able to break in through a limited set of ports. You would keep a list of all ports that run on your DMZ and monitor when security exploits are released so you can patch everything ASAP, before an attacker has the ability to crack anything.
However, if you have an insane person monitoring your servers and the security boards 24/7 they may be able to hack their way in before you could patch your systems even if you do everything right. God forbid anyone walk into your building and gain physical access to the servers. Security is always going to be an illusion, but there is a comfort zone we can easy put ourselves in to feel relatively secure from automated attacks. Which is really all anyone wants. Else they become paranoid.
just commenting on your sig..
Capitalism turns productive citizens into tax-slaves.
Productive citizens come from a certain type of environment. That environment has things like education, freedom and property. Enough property that it doesn't appear to be "poor".
Add capitalism into the mix and we get what we have here today, which is the way we wants it, so now we gets it.
Life is time, time is money..
Money is symbolic of value and so it inherently has no value of its own. Its a variable.
Both life and time are infinitely valuable to someone who wants to live but has run out of time.
On your death bed how much would you be willing to pay to get back all the time you spent paying taxes and bills and managing your money? Would you even consider trading capitalism itself for just a little more time?
What if stress kills us slowly or shortens our lifespan? I wonder if anyone would be willing to trade all the stress caused by capitalism and christmas and property and keeping-up-with-the-joneses and bills and taxes and work and rush hour..
At least I can take some comforting knowing we will all be there in line wasting those precious seconds of our life together, just waiting..
Profit!