FireFox is maintained by the for-profit Mozilla Corporation, which is owned by the Mozilla Foundation. With version 2, Thunderbird was licensed by Mozilla Corporation as well (Thunderbird 1.5 was still Mozilla Foundation).
For-profit is working for them for FireFox, they probably just figured they'd try to do a similar child company for Thunderbird.
Someone mentioned the decreased headaches of being for-profit versus legally being a non-profit, and that could very well be the case. FireFox is doing well. It seems like they know what they are doing. I am always sceptical, it's in my nature, but this doesn't seem to be a red flag. It was a red flag for me when FireFox was moved into for-profit hands, but nothing bad has happened because of it.
It certainly is an annoying trick. But, at least on the WinXP comps I tried, when I alt-tab between programs I can see the browser for a moment and then the Java popup covers it again. So I moved my mouse over the X for the browser and did alt-tab, click and closed the browser with no trouble.
Overall, definately a great way to ruins someone's day though. Personally I keep pretty much everything turned off. I have a button in Opera to enable/disable various things like Java and Adobe. And NoScript is a great extension for FireFox. But there are still a lot of people out there that are going to get really screwed up by this finding.
If they are talking about taking out favorites to save space, then I don't think the discussion applies to comps like yours because it should run all the main web browsers fine with those specs.
I have a two Pentium 200 laptops with 32MB RAM and they don't have a problem with IE, FF, or Opera aside from massive chug when Flash is involved.
As a long time user of Opera and a person that typically opens multiple windows with multiple tabs on each, I have to point out that what you are experiencing is not a common trait of Opera. It sounds like an issue with your computer specifically.
Mileage will always vary so I'm sure others will have issues like this as well. But I can say I've never experienced them with the computers I use Opera on:
The typical workload I place on Opera is 5 to 10 tabs in 4 or 5 windows. But sometimes I'll end up with 20 windows open, and sometimes a window may have 20 or 30 tabs.
This is usually the result of a power search for information where I'll search for a handful of sites, open each in it's own window and then mow through the links on the first page opening each one in a separate tab. Doing that with mouse gestures takes pretty much no time, and gestures also makes sorting through and closing out the tabs extremely fast as well.
It's definately unusual use for a browser. It's usually to figure out some idiotically obfuscated detail in a procedure (for instance non-profit bulk mailing procedures, which can get pretty annoying sometimes) and when I am not searching like this I can use any browser and not really notice the difference as most browsers perform almost the same. The differences are typically quite small if you are just browsing mainly text based pages for info, which I spend a lot of time doing.
But when it comes to plowing through a ton of pages at once, Opera is the fastest and easiest to use in my experience. But, as always, YMMV;-)
Whoops and almost forgot, Ubuntu's license is "Free" on Download.com, which is why the detailed specs of Ubuntu on the MS page had License: Free listed as well.
Exactly. Most of the stuff on Marketplace is available through a different provider like Download.com or Tucows. The stuff you actually get from the Market Place is usually stuff you buy. Even Outlook Express is actually downloaded from tucows.
They probably have an automatic filtered system for grabbing stuff off of the other sites and just weren't expecting a linux distro to show up in that category because it really shouldn't be there.
And there was Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus as well. Another terrible, early Xbox fighter. This is the one that really tried to borrow from Mortal Kombat, which makes sense, since one of the creators of Mortal Kombat (John Tobias) was in charge of it.
Unfortunately for Tobias, when Ed Boon makes a terrible fighting game, people actually BUY it.
In the future there will be service for a little cheaper they are saying. Nextel plan with 2000 minutes for a blackberry with unlimited data is about $150. So this will just be taking it the next step, just like the current plans are a step beyond what used to be.
But they are less or more valuable depending on the person or on what they are about.
I find reviews of RPGs and action games helpful, especially when the reviewer knows their stuff pretty well and starts drawing comparisons with other games, because chances are I'll know at least a few of the other games the reviewer refers to.
But then for something like a fighting game, unless the reviewer is a dedicated fighting game player, I don't find the reviews useful because I know fighting games well and I know specifically what I like about fighting games. The review still has value to the person that just casually plays fighters just like RPG reviews have value for me as a casual RPG player.
All the images are oddly depressing. I don't mind a work environment that's all business, so to speak, and I have seen small offices where creativity is the goal and some of them were really beautiful and relaxing and allowed you to sit and work for ridiculously long periods of time and still feel comfortable. But the pics of the Googleplex are actually depressing to me. It's a standard looking office space with a bunch of novelties thrown in to remind you of what it's like to not be at work.
That said, Google if you are hiring, I'd love to work at your facilities:-D
I like having diversity in video games. I like having more races without having all the stereotypes. I've worked with youth a lot, a very diverse group, and they pretty much all play video games. It'd be cool to me if they could all relate to a great character at some point in their gaming.
At the same time, I don't want some overly-politically correct game that makes it's roster while celebrating Chrismahanukwanzikah. I just like to see a cast of characters that throws in a bunch of variety to keep things interesting, if it's appropriate. If the game is set in feudal Japan, cast accordingly. If the game is set in a place like New York City or Philly, let's see some variety.
And if the game is incredibly violent or inappropriate, I don't really care cause the youth shouldn't be playing that anyway IMO:)
I never played the PSX version but the Arcade version basically has Street Fighter mechanics, just poorly interpretted. It has SF style moves, SF style supers, and a basic juggle system similar to later Capcom games. It has double tap moves like MK does, and has digitized characters like MK does, but that's pretty much the limit of similarities. No MK style mechanics made it in to the game. Whomever added that to the Wiki page probably just doesn't know what MK mechanics are.
In their eyes they have to try to patent anything they've worked on because patents are some form of security on their work, and they have to keep up with companies like IBM that patent a whole lot more stuff than they do. I would imagine doing so is hard though since places like IBM have more revenue streams and areas of development so they have a broader range of work to seek patents on.
I don't like DRM in general so I don't buy music that has DRM. I've never bought a song off of iTunes, yet I legally own all the music I want. Do the people responsible for this not realize they can get their music elsewhere? It almost sounds like a bunch of people bought a bunch of songs off iTunes and didn't realize until afterwards they needed an iPod (or a Windows or Mac PC, or to burn and rerip, or whatever) to listen to them and they got angry.
Actually, they are nice and heavy, sealed, and have an attendant sitting next to them. When people want a PS3 they take them from the stack. At least you only whispered, lol. That would have been embarassing to shout.
The mountain of 60 PS3's piled up inside the front doors of the local Best Buy for the past week tells me that shipping them should not be as high a priority as giving people a reason to buy them.
When are they going to admit the truth of how this was destroyed? Oh well, we'll all know once Megatron lays seige to the earth for our delicios oil and rubies and everything else that can be made into energon cubes.
Yes, that is obvious. But "for-profit" is treated like a bad thing these days and it hurts the image a lot of people have of software like Firefox, even if that image was never the one intended by it's creator.
That said, I kind of feel bad that you responded to my comment. I should have included that it was a wholly owned subsidiary originally since without that it sounds like I am trying to cover something up. It must be mind-numbing to go through all the comments on a story like this trying to correct people. It's probably not healthy.
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FireFox is maintained by the for-profit Mozilla Corporation, which is owned by the Mozilla Foundation. With version 2, Thunderbird was licensed by Mozilla Corporation as well (Thunderbird 1.5 was still Mozilla Foundation).
For-profit is working for them for FireFox, they probably just figured they'd try to do a similar child company for Thunderbird.
Someone mentioned the decreased headaches of being for-profit versus legally being a non-profit, and that could very well be the case. FireFox is doing well. It seems like they know what they are doing. I am always sceptical, it's in my nature, but this doesn't seem to be a red flag. It was a red flag for me when FireFox was moved into for-profit hands, but nothing bad has happened because of it.
It certainly is an annoying trick. But, at least on the WinXP comps I tried, when I alt-tab between programs I can see the browser for a moment and then the Java popup covers it again. So I moved my mouse over the X for the browser and did alt-tab, click and closed the browser with no trouble.
Overall, definately a great way to ruins someone's day though. Personally I keep pretty much everything turned off. I have a button in Opera to enable/disable various things like Java and Adobe. And NoScript is a great extension for FireFox. But there are still a lot of people out there that are going to get really screwed up by this finding.
If they are talking about taking out favorites to save space, then I don't think the discussion applies to comps like yours because it should run all the main web browsers fine with those specs. I have a two Pentium 200 laptops with 32MB RAM and they don't have a problem with IE, FF, or Opera aside from massive chug when Flash is involved.
Well they did come out with a Lemmings game for PS2 in 2006. So its not like they abandoned it or anything.
As a long time user of Opera and a person that typically opens multiple windows with multiple tabs on each, I have to point out that what you are experiencing is not a common trait of Opera. It sounds like an issue with your computer specifically.
;-)
Mileage will always vary so I'm sure others will have issues like this as well. But I can say I've never experienced them with the computers I use Opera on:
Athlon 64 3200+, 1GB RAM, Win2k
Pentium M 1.66ghz, 1GB RAM, WinXP MCE
Pentium 4 2.8ghz, 256MB RAM, WinXP Pro SP2
The typical workload I place on Opera is 5 to 10 tabs in 4 or 5 windows. But sometimes I'll end up with 20 windows open, and sometimes a window may have 20 or 30 tabs.
This is usually the result of a power search for information where I'll search for a handful of sites, open each in it's own window and then mow through the links on the first page opening each one in a separate tab. Doing that with mouse gestures takes pretty much no time, and gestures also makes sorting through and closing out the tabs extremely fast as well.
It's definately unusual use for a browser. It's usually to figure out some idiotically obfuscated detail in a procedure (for instance non-profit bulk mailing procedures, which can get pretty annoying sometimes) and when I am not searching like this I can use any browser and not really notice the difference as most browsers perform almost the same. The differences are typically quite small if you are just browsing mainly text based pages for info, which I spend a lot of time doing.
But when it comes to plowing through a ton of pages at once, Opera is the fastest and easiest to use in my experience. But, as always, YMMV
Whoops and almost forgot, Ubuntu's license is "Free" on Download.com, which is why the detailed specs of Ubuntu on the MS page had License: Free listed as well.
Exactly. Most of the stuff on Marketplace is available through a different provider like Download.com or Tucows. The stuff you actually get from the Market Place is usually stuff you buy. Even Outlook Express is actually downloaded from tucows. They probably have an automatic filtered system for grabbing stuff off of the other sites and just weren't expecting a linux distro to show up in that category because it really shouldn't be there.
I would bet EA War was actually a possibility.
And there was Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus as well. Another terrible, early Xbox fighter. This is the one that really tried to borrow from Mortal Kombat, which makes sense, since one of the creators of Mortal Kombat (John Tobias) was in charge of it.
Unfortunately for Tobias, when Ed Boon makes a terrible fighting game, people actually BUY it.
In the future there will be service for a little cheaper they are saying. Nextel plan with 2000 minutes for a blackberry with unlimited data is about $150. So this will just be taking it the next step, just like the current plans are a step beyond what used to be.
I through my controller across the room on the original ET. The Wiimote doesn't stand a chance.
But they are less or more valuable depending on the person or on what they are about.
I find reviews of RPGs and action games helpful, especially when the reviewer knows their stuff pretty well and starts drawing comparisons with other games, because chances are I'll know at least a few of the other games the reviewer refers to.
But then for something like a fighting game, unless the reviewer is a dedicated fighting game player, I don't find the reviews useful because I know fighting games well and I know specifically what I like about fighting games. The review still has value to the person that just casually plays fighters just like RPG reviews have value for me as a casual RPG player.
All the images are oddly depressing. I don't mind a work environment that's all business, so to speak, and I have seen small offices where creativity is the goal and some of them were really beautiful and relaxing and allowed you to sit and work for ridiculously long periods of time and still feel comfortable. But the pics of the Googleplex are actually depressing to me. It's a standard looking office space with a bunch of novelties thrown in to remind you of what it's like to not be at work.
:-D
That said, Google if you are hiring, I'd love to work at your facilities
I like having diversity in video games. I like having more races without having all the stereotypes. I've worked with youth a lot, a very diverse group, and they pretty much all play video games. It'd be cool to me if they could all relate to a great character at some point in their gaming.
:)
At the same time, I don't want some overly-politically correct game that makes it's roster while celebrating Chrismahanukwanzikah. I just like to see a cast of characters that throws in a bunch of variety to keep things interesting, if it's appropriate. If the game is set in feudal Japan, cast accordingly. If the game is set in a place like New York City or Philly, let's see some variety.
And if the game is incredibly violent or inappropriate, I don't really care cause the youth shouldn't be playing that anyway IMO
Crist save us!
I never played the PSX version but the Arcade version basically has Street Fighter mechanics, just poorly interpretted. It has SF style moves, SF style supers, and a basic juggle system similar to later Capcom games. It has double tap moves like MK does, and has digitized characters like MK does, but that's pretty much the limit of similarities. No MK style mechanics made it in to the game. Whomever added that to the Wiki page probably just doesn't know what MK mechanics are.
Prior art has never been a reason for MS to avoid patenting. They'll try to patent anything they can patent. Remember when they tried to patent a box with numbers in it? It's the nature of the business
In their eyes they have to try to patent anything they've worked on because patents are some form of security on their work, and they have to keep up with companies like IBM that patent a whole lot more stuff than they do. I would imagine doing so is hard though since places like IBM have more revenue streams and areas of development so they have a broader range of work to seek patents on.
I don't like DRM in general so I don't buy music that has DRM. I've never bought a song off of iTunes, yet I legally own all the music I want. Do the people responsible for this not realize they can get their music elsewhere? It almost sounds like a bunch of people bought a bunch of songs off iTunes and didn't realize until afterwards they needed an iPod (or a Windows or Mac PC, or to burn and rerip, or whatever) to listen to them and they got angry.
No, our fat makes us fat.
Actually, they are nice and heavy, sealed, and have an attendant sitting next to them. When people want a PS3 they take them from the stack. At least you only whispered, lol. That would have been embarassing to shout.
The mountain of 60 PS3's piled up inside the front doors of the local Best Buy for the past week tells me that shipping them should not be as high a priority as giving people a reason to buy them.
When are they going to admit the truth of how this was destroyed? Oh well, we'll all know once Megatron lays seige to the earth for our delicios oil and rubies and everything else that can be made into energon cubes.
Windows 2000 = NT 5.0
Windows XP = NT 5.1
So Fiji is like Vista +.1 probably. It sounds likes more of what they have been doing already.
Yes, that is obvious. But "for-profit" is treated like a bad thing these days and it hurts the image a lot of people have of software like Firefox, even if that image was never the one intended by it's creator.
That said, I kind of feel bad that you responded to my comment. I should have included that it was a wholly owned subsidiary originally since without that it sounds like I am trying to cover something up. It must be mind-numbing to go through all the comments on a story like this trying to correct people. It's probably not healthy.