The point is many of the 'God says no' rules came from a very simple process. Disease was punishment from God. Doing things that made you sick were interpreted as on the 'makes God angry' list. Further, there has been some discussion that some of the religious leaders of the time were at least slightly more aware of the connections and wrote the laws as "God said so" to convince more people to follow the healthy things.
As far as they were concerned, pork WAS unclean because parasites weren't discovered until much later. Given that they didn't really exist in their minds, how could they possibly know how cooked it had to be? It isn't like they had meat thermometers. You could eat it cooked and still get sick if it wasn't cooked 'enough'. Clearly the safest bet is just avoid it altogether. So...tell me...how many times have you gone back to a restaurant and ordered the same dish after you got food poisoning from them? If you HAVE gone back to the same place and ordered the same thing that made you sick then you would have removed yourself from the gene pool quite quickly back in the early days when those "pork is unclean" rules were written.
1. I did not say Christianity is idiocy. Ken Miller is a catholic. Francis Collins is an evangelical I believe. The pope has specifically said that evolution does not pose any ideological problems. So...fundamentalist behavior of any religion is idiocy. You tried to put words in my mouth, which is standard fare for your breed.
2. Acceptance of evolutionary theory does not require faith. A scientific theory is a collection of facts that suggest a particular model. The Bible has 0, nada, zip, zero, zilch evidence for it's literalist accounting of creation and thus requires faith.
3. Further, Theory is not the same as fact. Scientists are not teaching their beliefs as fact, the ID crowd is. The ID arguments have been completely and totally debunked so repeating them despite the evidence against is teaching belief as fact. I would suggest you learn what Theory means. It has a specific meaning beyond "hey I have an idea". Since Theory is taught in a science class to the true scientific definition of Theory claiming that it is belief being taught as fact is the standard lie of anti-evolution crowd.
Then would an equally vaid question be "Trace the connection between membership in the Christian faith and raping underage boys."? The unbelievable bias in that question requires no context. It is asking the student to attempt to connect entirely unrelated subjects on the assumption that they are actually related. That relation is the common teaching of the anti-evolution crowd.
Secondly, the make your best argument against intelligent design is more likely to be used to create future pro-ID positions OR get the student to deliberatley make a weak argument so it can then be used to show future classes how weak the anti-ID claims are. The problem here is that these students aren't likely to question their teacher. They are specifically conditioned to not question people speaking from positions for relgious authority. That is why they are going to school there in the first place.
Last I checked there were no secular biology classes that require students to go find ID websites and defend evolution on them... Unless of course you mean making an ass of yourself spreading pseudoscientific bullshit as one of the tenets of the school's beliefs.
Here is another fun requirement for the class.
Trace the connections between Darwinian evolution, eugenics, abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia. Why are materialists so ready to embrace these as a package deal? What view of humanity and reality is required to resist them?
In fact...my outrage is that the school is actively encouraging these shit for brains to go forth and share their idiocy. Writing a paper about this crap is one thing, but actively going out and finding 'hostile' websites to post on is just being a douchebag. You might also carefully consider the fact they use the word 'hostile' to describe those who disagree with them. Now, if you are ok living under fundamentalist religion rule like the Taliban, by all means, just let them continue their push and growth. Palin 2012!
Last I checked all it would take to fix them is a quick flick of the wrist with an exacto knife. Hell, you don't even have to waste any time/money on antiseptics or anesthesia. If you are feeling exceptionally generous you can give them a bandaid...with any luck they might accept it without thinking about the joys of removing it later...
What are you talking about? Clearly you must be new here. You should be foaming at the mouth with Apple hate.
Don't bring up those dirty logic things like contracts and legal obligations. I can't believe you would dare to point out that they bark far more than they bite. I mean really...why would you mention that they don't really seem to be going after people not trying to commercialize their hacking.
Now...I kinda suspect that commercializing the Cydia app store might upset them enough to cause real action.
I blame you and your ilk. But not in the way you might expect. GET LOUDER! I mean, it is great that you are saying this here on slashdot, but you are kinda preaching to the choir here. I have yet to meet a doctor that has a very high opinion of pharma companies or insurance companies, but they all seem to be rather silent on the matter. You have politicians and PR guys filling people full of stupid ideas about how pharma must be protected so they can get the drugs they need and so on. None of those assholes have degrees in medicine. Why aren't we seeing the folks that are credentialed in the medical field taking a stand? Why aren't they screaming from the top of the mountains? People like you are the ones that have the knowledge required to really expose this crap.
In Texas pharma bought of some government officials to try and make the HPV vaccine mandatory for very young girls...it got killed by the buyoff being exposed, and not by the doctors crying foul. Even the lead researcher of the vaccine said it was never meant for girls so young.
At the end of the day these pharma companies would be done if doctors would dealing their drugs and taking these little kickbacks and bribes. This boils down to the dirty docs that play the game and the rest that aren't calling them on it. Market forces will never function correctly in a field where people are forced to put a value on their own life.
Rarely or never? Life is conflict. Good conflict resolution skills are the difference between a disagreement and a fight. I suspect you do argue with normal frequency, but that it doesn't escalate enough to become memorable.
I don't. Look at the average decision making power of an 18.5yr old. It is typically pretty abysmal. "My buddies will think this is so cool" is going to come way before "maybe I shouldn't say this in a public forum". This policy is about Operational Security trumping morale, as it should. Morale doesn't matter much to dead service members. Morale will also suffer a pretty big hit when some group of marines find out their friends died in an ambush because the new guy thought he should twitter about the cool things he saw on his patrol route.
This is no different than saying you can't drink while on duty. They can go home and drink, they just can't do it at work because of the risks involved. They will probably also have to sit through countless presentations on the risks of social networking sites just the same as the countless presentations on the risks of drinking. The surprising thing here is that it took so damned long for them to start dealing with this.
Because when one of you has had a really shitty day and the other accidentally pushes a button that isn't something you talk out before. What you need to understand is how to argue without making it a knock down fight. You don't want it to be one of those bottled up situations. Women do this much more than men. They say that when a guy is upset he tends to focus on that issue, but when a woman gets upset her mind immediately retrieves all of the other events associated with that person that also upset her. People have stress, no getting around that. Sometimes people need to vent. Everyone does it differently, but frequently will get a bit touchy or argumentative. This doesn't mean you go looking for fights, it means you learn how to fight without doing lasting damage.
Compare it to the difference in sparring in a gym vs fighting someone in a dark alley. In the gym it is more controlled, people may get a bit hurt, but nothing serious, and is generally good exercise and a way to work out some aggression. In the alley it is an all around bad deal and someone is probably going to get severely injured.
What scientists on TV? I suspect that if there were more scientists on TV we wouldn't be having half of the anti-intellectualism fueled debates that rage these days.
Awesome! So can we do this with the military too? Only follow orders that they want to? Do you maybe have another word for that other than military dictatorship or police state? I just absolutely love such forward thinking people ready to leap head first into despotism. Clearly having the military and police act on their own whim instead of answering to the "people" collectively through the existing government channels is WAY better. I mean...why should we burden the populace with fixing their own damned screwups in electing bad officials...we should just let the enforcers of laws decide how it should all work instead.
Certainly not, but that doesn't mean they are mutually required either. Just because a firm has lawyers does not indicate that the firm does not value the customers. In fact, I would say they have very little to do with each other since almost every business has lawyers working for them in some fashion.
Oh my god I am so confused now. Your correction of my sarcasm is confusing me. They normally do help the customer quite a bit, but you corrected my sarcasm regarding that with a statement that is actually true. They really don't help the customer save money. But, in the case of this story...that is exactly what they did... Oh my brain hurts...
Actually it is an indication that they hired lawyers. Lawyers are notorious for this type of boilerplate garbage. If you note, the story mentions they spoke with an executive. Executives don't work through the customer service stuff, they work through the lawyers. When you get that high up you start dealing with people that are more comfortable dealing with their lawyers than their customers. You deal with people that are spooked by customers calling and instead of "let us help you" dancing through their head they have "oh my god this guy might try to sue us!". Had this been resolved in the customer service area it probably would have been a pretty simple refund and life goes on.
In the end, I say this is non newsworthy because people are ranting and raving about how 14 out of 173,000,000 iPods exploded and the fact that the company that is making them reacted with a panic. I would say their panic is justified, though handled poorly, because tech sites like this are continuing to make a big fucking deal out of 14 out of 173,000,000 iPods failing in a spectacular fashion. If I could be sure that every product I purchased had a failure rate that low I would be pretty happy.
Apple could actually fix this pretty easily. "We are sorry about this, our lawyers were acting like fools, we would like to provide you with a brand new iThing and a $100 iTunes card".
That surprises me that you had problems with "bathroom". Most people I know use bathroom rather than restroom. In the average home your toilet and bath are in the same place so most people will naturally call it a bathroom even when in public. I hear restroom plenty too, but WC is the one I never hear. The most amusing English to English translation I had to deal with was in my youth. I was working a fast food place and some British family came in and ordered "chips". The girl running the register had no clue what they were trying to order and both sides were starting to get edgy as the Brits pointed at the picture and kept demanding chips and the girl kept insisting that we don't have any chips. I had to step in and explain they were trying to order french fries.
A great number of people were incredibly disappointed by the thing. The marketing hype around that thing was insane. Everyone had to know what it was. It was new, it was amazing, CEOs were ranting and raving how awesome it was. It was super simple to assemble. Entire cities would be built around it! It would change human history. These were just a few of the claims leading up to its unveiling. Then...drum roll...they unveil a fucking scooter. Not only was it a fucking scooter, it was an incredibly expensive scooter that they continued to try and hype as the best thing ever. Then, we have clowns like the author here trying to determine "why people don't like the segway more". I propose it is because it was a huge disappointment, it wasn't all that impressive, and quite frankly most people don't have any use for one. Trying to use a big ass scooter like that in a crowded place...and then putting everyone else on scooters? People on foot would cause less congestion and could maneuver to their destination much more efficiently.
Then we have that iconic moment when George W Bush fell over the front end of the scooter that can't fall over...
Seriously...the ONLY viable use for these things that I have seen (sorry mallcops...you can walk your fat asses around) is bomb squads. When you put a guy in that huge suit, especially in any weather other than a snowstorm it is going to suck like hell to move around. So...they stuff them in the bomb suit, put em on the segway, and then they can scoot up to much closer proximity without having to work themselves to exhaustion just walking to the site.
Yes...because that is exactly what history has shown us. Why is it that people get to say totally uninformed, moronic, and rather offensive crap about the military and get modded insightful? Maybe, JUST MAYBE, you should go read up on some of those poor stupid people... The fact is, those independent-thinkers frequently rise to leadership positions, or are otherwise well decorated people for superior performance. Almost every last single one of the wartime heroes that are celebrated in military history got their name into the history book by being exceptionally clever, fast thinking, and very brave. You don't make history by simply following orders. So please...you should at least do some valid research rather than spout of nonsense like this.
Now...in terms of the technology...most of this technology is very new and the military has been notorious for resisting "the new thing". If you go look up some of the early history of how flight entered military service you will find a huge history of incredibly bright and free thinking people. General Billy Mitchell is a good one to look up on that. It doesn't surprise me at all that the military is once again lagging. The new up and comers are fighting the battle of trying to sell the new thing to people that perfected the old methods. This is no different than the last major battle of convincing guys that were trench and tank warfare experts that aircraft were going to be the next big thing. Eventually they come around and embrace the new stuff and then typically excel at it. The airline pilot that recently put down his plane in the Hudson for an emergency landing that saved everyone was an ex fighter pilot.
So please...do at least a little research before spouting off with ill informed anti-military rhetoric.
The article says that Apple demanded it. However, this is slashdot, and we all know that can't be true. Apple never does anything that would help the customer...
It seems rather appropriate that Clippy 2.0 falls in the same realm as weapons development... Information Operations? Psychological Operations? Hell it could even be considered a kinetic weapon if you throw the device running it from the right height...
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The point is many of the 'God says no' rules came from a very simple process. Disease was punishment from God. Doing things that made you sick were interpreted as on the 'makes God angry' list. Further, there has been some discussion that some of the religious leaders of the time were at least slightly more aware of the connections and wrote the laws as "God said so" to convince more people to follow the healthy things.
As far as they were concerned, pork WAS unclean because parasites weren't discovered until much later. Given that they didn't really exist in their minds, how could they possibly know how cooked it had to be? It isn't like they had meat thermometers. You could eat it cooked and still get sick if it wasn't cooked 'enough'. Clearly the safest bet is just avoid it altogether. So...tell me...how many times have you gone back to a restaurant and ordered the same dish after you got food poisoning from them? If you HAVE gone back to the same place and ordered the same thing that made you sick then you would have removed yourself from the gene pool quite quickly back in the early days when those "pork is unclean" rules were written.
1. I did not say Christianity is idiocy. Ken Miller is a catholic. Francis Collins is an evangelical I believe. The pope has specifically said that evolution does not pose any ideological problems. So...fundamentalist behavior of any religion is idiocy. You tried to put words in my mouth, which is standard fare for your breed.
2. Acceptance of evolutionary theory does not require faith. A scientific theory is a collection of facts that suggest a particular model. The Bible has 0, nada, zip, zero, zilch evidence for it's literalist accounting of creation and thus requires faith.
3. Further, Theory is not the same as fact. Scientists are not teaching their beliefs as fact, the ID crowd is. The ID arguments have been completely and totally debunked so repeating them despite the evidence against is teaching belief as fact. I would suggest you learn what Theory means. It has a specific meaning beyond "hey I have an idea". Since Theory is taught in a science class to the true scientific definition of Theory claiming that it is belief being taught as fact is the standard lie of anti-evolution crowd.
Then would an equally vaid question be "Trace the connection between membership in the Christian faith and raping underage boys."? The unbelievable bias in that question requires no context. It is asking the student to attempt to connect entirely unrelated subjects on the assumption that they are actually related. That relation is the common teaching of the anti-evolution crowd.
Secondly, the make your best argument against intelligent design is more likely to be used to create future pro-ID positions OR get the student to deliberatley make a weak argument so it can then be used to show future classes how weak the anti-ID claims are. The problem here is that these students aren't likely to question their teacher. They are specifically conditioned to not question people speaking from positions for relgious authority. That is why they are going to school there in the first place.
Last I checked there were no secular biology classes that require students to go find ID websites and defend evolution on them... Unless of course you mean making an ass of yourself spreading pseudoscientific bullshit as one of the tenets of the school's beliefs.
Here is another fun requirement for the class.
Trace the connections between Darwinian evolution, eugenics, abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia. Why are materialists so ready to embrace these as a package deal? What view of humanity and reality is required to resist them?
In fact...my outrage is that the school is actively encouraging these shit for brains to go forth and share their idiocy. Writing a paper about this crap is one thing, but actively going out and finding 'hostile' websites to post on is just being a douchebag. You might also carefully consider the fact they use the word 'hostile' to describe those who disagree with them. Now, if you are ok living under fundamentalist religion rule like the Taliban, by all means, just let them continue their push and growth. Palin 2012!
Last I checked all it would take to fix them is a quick flick of the wrist with an exacto knife. Hell, you don't even have to waste any time/money on antiseptics or anesthesia. If you are feeling exceptionally generous you can give them a bandaid...with any luck they might accept it without thinking about the joys of removing it later...
Haven't any of you read Footfall?! I for one welcome our new elephant overlords!
What are you talking about? Clearly you must be new here. You should be foaming at the mouth with Apple hate.
Don't bring up those dirty logic things like contracts and legal obligations. I can't believe you would dare to point out that they bark far more than they bite. I mean really...why would you mention that they don't really seem to be going after people not trying to commercialize their hacking.
Now...I kinda suspect that commercializing the Cydia app store might upset them enough to cause real action.
I blame you and your ilk. But not in the way you might expect. GET LOUDER! I mean, it is great that you are saying this here on slashdot, but you are kinda preaching to the choir here. I have yet to meet a doctor that has a very high opinion of pharma companies or insurance companies, but they all seem to be rather silent on the matter. You have politicians and PR guys filling people full of stupid ideas about how pharma must be protected so they can get the drugs they need and so on. None of those assholes have degrees in medicine. Why aren't we seeing the folks that are credentialed in the medical field taking a stand? Why aren't they screaming from the top of the mountains? People like you are the ones that have the knowledge required to really expose this crap.
In Texas pharma bought of some government officials to try and make the HPV vaccine mandatory for very young girls...it got killed by the buyoff being exposed, and not by the doctors crying foul. Even the lead researcher of the vaccine said it was never meant for girls so young.
At the end of the day these pharma companies would be done if doctors would dealing their drugs and taking these little kickbacks and bribes. This boils down to the dirty docs that play the game and the rest that aren't calling them on it. Market forces will never function correctly in a field where people are forced to put a value on their own life.
Rarely or never? Life is conflict. Good conflict resolution skills are the difference between a disagreement and a fight. I suspect you do argue with normal frequency, but that it doesn't escalate enough to become memorable.
I don't. Look at the average decision making power of an 18.5yr old. It is typically pretty abysmal. "My buddies will think this is so cool" is going to come way before "maybe I shouldn't say this in a public forum". This policy is about Operational Security trumping morale, as it should. Morale doesn't matter much to dead service members. Morale will also suffer a pretty big hit when some group of marines find out their friends died in an ambush because the new guy thought he should twitter about the cool things he saw on his patrol route.
This is no different than saying you can't drink while on duty. They can go home and drink, they just can't do it at work because of the risks involved. They will probably also have to sit through countless presentations on the risks of social networking sites just the same as the countless presentations on the risks of drinking. The surprising thing here is that it took so damned long for them to start dealing with this.
Because when one of you has had a really shitty day and the other accidentally pushes a button that isn't something you talk out before. What you need to understand is how to argue without making it a knock down fight. You don't want it to be one of those bottled up situations. Women do this much more than men. They say that when a guy is upset he tends to focus on that issue, but when a woman gets upset her mind immediately retrieves all of the other events associated with that person that also upset her. People have stress, no getting around that. Sometimes people need to vent. Everyone does it differently, but frequently will get a bit touchy or argumentative. This doesn't mean you go looking for fights, it means you learn how to fight without doing lasting damage.
Compare it to the difference in sparring in a gym vs fighting someone in a dark alley. In the gym it is more controlled, people may get a bit hurt, but nothing serious, and is generally good exercise and a way to work out some aggression. In the alley it is an all around bad deal and someone is probably going to get severely injured.
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What scientists on TV? I suspect that if there were more scientists on TV we wouldn't be having half of the anti-intellectualism fueled debates that rage these days.
Awesome! So can we do this with the military too? Only follow orders that they want to? Do you maybe have another word for that other than military dictatorship or police state? I just absolutely love such forward thinking people ready to leap head first into despotism. Clearly having the military and police act on their own whim instead of answering to the "people" collectively through the existing government channels is WAY better. I mean...why should we burden the populace with fixing their own damned screwups in electing bad officials...we should just let the enforcers of laws decide how it should all work instead.
Certainly not, but that doesn't mean they are mutually required either. Just because a firm has lawyers does not indicate that the firm does not value the customers. In fact, I would say they have very little to do with each other since almost every business has lawyers working for them in some fashion.
Yes, but the question is, are the bot owners really more likely to have hooked up with women than Bush trying to steal an election?
I can't decide between 3 and 5 for the least likely explanation.
Oh my god I am so confused now. Your correction of my sarcasm is confusing me. They normally do help the customer quite a bit, but you corrected my sarcasm regarding that with a statement that is actually true. They really don't help the customer save money. But, in the case of this story...that is exactly what they did... Oh my brain hurts...
Actually it is an indication that they hired lawyers. Lawyers are notorious for this type of boilerplate garbage. If you note, the story mentions they spoke with an executive. Executives don't work through the customer service stuff, they work through the lawyers. When you get that high up you start dealing with people that are more comfortable dealing with their lawyers than their customers. You deal with people that are spooked by customers calling and instead of "let us help you" dancing through their head they have "oh my god this guy might try to sue us!". Had this been resolved in the customer service area it probably would have been a pretty simple refund and life goes on.
In the end, I say this is non newsworthy because people are ranting and raving about how 14 out of 173,000,000 iPods exploded and the fact that the company that is making them reacted with a panic. I would say their panic is justified, though handled poorly, because tech sites like this are continuing to make a big fucking deal out of 14 out of 173,000,000 iPods failing in a spectacular fashion. If I could be sure that every product I purchased had a failure rate that low I would be pretty happy.
Apple could actually fix this pretty easily. "We are sorry about this, our lawyers were acting like fools, we would like to provide you with a brand new iThing and a $100 iTunes card".
That surprises me that you had problems with "bathroom". Most people I know use bathroom rather than restroom. In the average home your toilet and bath are in the same place so most people will naturally call it a bathroom even when in public. I hear restroom plenty too, but WC is the one I never hear. The most amusing English to English translation I had to deal with was in my youth. I was working a fast food place and some British family came in and ordered "chips". The girl running the register had no clue what they were trying to order and both sides were starting to get edgy as the Brits pointed at the picture and kept demanding chips and the girl kept insisting that we don't have any chips. I had to step in and explain they were trying to order french fries.
A great number of people were incredibly disappointed by the thing. The marketing hype around that thing was insane. Everyone had to know what it was. It was new, it was amazing, CEOs were ranting and raving how awesome it was. It was super simple to assemble. Entire cities would be built around it! It would change human history. These were just a few of the claims leading up to its unveiling. Then...drum roll...they unveil a fucking scooter. Not only was it a fucking scooter, it was an incredibly expensive scooter that they continued to try and hype as the best thing ever. Then, we have clowns like the author here trying to determine "why people don't like the segway more". I propose it is because it was a huge disappointment, it wasn't all that impressive, and quite frankly most people don't have any use for one. Trying to use a big ass scooter like that in a crowded place...and then putting everyone else on scooters? People on foot would cause less congestion and could maneuver to their destination much more efficiently.
Then we have that iconic moment when George W Bush fell over the front end of the scooter that can't fall over...
Seriously...the ONLY viable use for these things that I have seen (sorry mallcops...you can walk your fat asses around) is bomb squads. When you put a guy in that huge suit, especially in any weather other than a snowstorm it is going to suck like hell to move around. So...they stuff them in the bomb suit, put em on the segway, and then they can scoot up to much closer proximity without having to work themselves to exhaustion just walking to the site.
Yes...because that is exactly what history has shown us. Why is it that people get to say totally uninformed, moronic, and rather offensive crap about the military and get modded insightful? Maybe, JUST MAYBE, you should go read up on some of those poor stupid people... The fact is, those independent-thinkers frequently rise to leadership positions, or are otherwise well decorated people for superior performance. Almost every last single one of the wartime heroes that are celebrated in military history got their name into the history book by being exceptionally clever, fast thinking, and very brave. You don't make history by simply following orders. So please...you should at least do some valid research rather than spout of nonsense like this.
Now...in terms of the technology...most of this technology is very new and the military has been notorious for resisting "the new thing". If you go look up some of the early history of how flight entered military service you will find a huge history of incredibly bright and free thinking people. General Billy Mitchell is a good one to look up on that. It doesn't surprise me at all that the military is once again lagging. The new up and comers are fighting the battle of trying to sell the new thing to people that perfected the old methods. This is no different than the last major battle of convincing guys that were trench and tank warfare experts that aircraft were going to be the next big thing. Eventually they come around and embrace the new stuff and then typically excel at it. The airline pilot that recently put down his plane in the Hudson for an emergency landing that saved everyone was an ex fighter pilot.
So please...do at least a little research before spouting off with ill informed anti-military rhetoric.
The article says that Apple demanded it. However, this is slashdot, and we all know that can't be true. Apple never does anything that would help the customer...
None. They change the standard to darkness.
I'm sorry...can you rephrase that in the form of a car analogy? Thanks!
It seems rather appropriate that Clippy 2.0 falls in the same realm as weapons development... Information Operations? Psychological Operations? Hell it could even be considered a kinetic weapon if you throw the device running it from the right height...