I am sitting here in a cube, reading the posts on this DRM discussion, and suddenly it hits me...Is this really important?
Is there any video or music that I want bad enough to worry with DRM's? If I want a video, I will buy it, and (IANAL but)I think in doing so I am agreeing to whatever license is stipulated. But is it worth all these arguments and stress...endless discussions, etc.?
I look out the window and see trees and a lake and I can walk out and watch and hear the eagles that are trying to catch the fish in the lake. There are geese on the shore of the lake...and it is better than any video...
GOODBY, SLASHDOT...I think I will go spend some time on important stuff...
It has been said over and over that everyone hates lawyers until they need one...
I have had dealings with three attorneys over the last few years; two were excellent human beings and one was just out for money, no different than many other professions.
A few rotten apples have spoiled the public perception; along with that there is the popular entertainment view; greasy defenders in Law and Order (which I do enjoy), attorneys presented like the one in Jurassic Park, and on and on...
Thank you! Always good to have my facts straight! I always read the three H's (Herbert, Heinlein, and Hubbard) SciFi as philosophy rather than as SciFi...
The same arguments for and against storing fingerprints were put forth when the state and federal governments began to store them. Now it is accepted as part of life. The technology certainly exists to fake someone's fingerprints from a file copy and present it as evidence, yet this does not happen, at least not that we know of...
The question boils down to "Is the storing of DNA a further reduction of my personal freedom?" I feel the answer is yes, but not in a substantial way.
When you consider the info that is tracked on you, then you realize that there is nothing that is not available now. Tax forms, credit applications, credit/debit card purchases, payroll/hr info, auto tags, drivers license, concealed weapons permits, passport, insurance questionaires, etc., you soon realize that if the government wants to know all about you they will.
There is no privacy. You eat government approved food, drink approved water, drive approved cars, live in approved houses, brush your teeth with approved toothpaste, work in approved environments, wear approved clothes (fire retardence, etc.), see rated movies, go to licensed professionals, and on and on and on...
If they chose to they could tell you what you eat, where you go, who you are with, how often you have sex, what your preferences are in paint colors, clothing, autos, and just about everything else.
This is called "Your Tax Dollars At Work".
Adding your DNA to the list of things that they know about you will just give them a common identifier for all these other things...rather than using your name on the file, it will have your DNA imprint.
When you really see how you are controlled, very like a rat in a cage, you will see that this is just the next step.
Someone once said that the illusion of freedom is more important than freedom itself. So you are told you can vote, and move from one state to another, and all of these things...but is that freedom, or the illusion of freedom in a controlled society...sorry if I am a little off topic...one of my pet peeves!
I first saw this in Robert A. Heinlein's work...guess he was using it in the 1950's...First book of his I remember seeing it in was "Friday"...don't know if he originated it, or just used it...
A card that says "See ID" forces you to ensure that the name on the card matches the name on the ID, while the picture on the ID matches the person making the charge! This is much more secure that just comparing a signature...Sounds like this company was more concerned with rules than actually verifying legitimate purchases...
IMHO the problem is not computers, which are just tools, or teachers, who for the most part really care and try. The fault lies with an educational system that teaches conformity and, in many instances, punishes brilliance.
If a lot of you slashdotters were like me, then you were not only put down by other kids for being intelligent, your teachers also got tired of you having all the answers!
We have a school system in the United States that puts an athelete on a pedestal while putting down the intelligent children. Children are taught to play well with others, learn what you need to work for some big corporation, don't question authority, and to just get by. Anything else is punished.
If children were allowed to grow to their potential, discover themselves, and not forced to conform, we might start to see some changes...
I have read a lot on religions in society, and came to this conclusion: We, in the United States, are a very young society, that dissassociated itself with the pasts of the countries that we came from. Japan has a culture that spans thousands of years, as do many other countries. This provides "cultural momentum" to the society, and gives the memebers of the society a place to "stand" so to speak.
In the United States we do not have this, so many people grasp the toughest religious viewpoint to give themselves a firm place to stand, emotionally, when things around them are in flux.
Older cultures stand on the traditions of thousands of years, while we stand on newly formed principles.
Taking a long view of history, the scary part is that we in the United States are forming the foundation of the traditions that will be around in hundreds of years...and I am not sure that we are building something that will be any good down the road!
"Those who are willing to trade freedom for security deserve neither freedom or security..." Benjamin Franklin.
I will not live my life in fear that every threat is the real deal; I will not change my travel plans, cower in my home, or submit to stupid rules because of other's fears.
Our current government is a product of our times; the threat of terrorism has always been there. On 9-11 a group was successful. Most only talk; almost all of the ones who try to do something will be caught. Most people in the United States have already traded their freedom for the security that our current government promises them.
I refuse to join this group of lemmings running headlong off the pinnacled cliff of democracy and into the shadowed valley of a police state. I understand that there is no way back up the mountain once you have fallen to your death.
Each of us is faced with that choice, regardless of where we live. Life is a series of choices; I make mine based on what I see and believe, not what others tell me to do, not on government propaganda, and certainly not on information gleaned from our news media.
You, like me, are faced with the same choices every day...we will all choose either freedom or security in each situation that we face. I have made my choice to live free.
Abusing people may not be happening, but that does not mean that the Patriot Act is not stomping all over our rights. You are not "abused" if your free travel is interfered with; but your rights are being interefered with...
So the government cannot find evidence of the government doing wrong? Hmmm...
The terrorists never really have to do anything else in the US other than use rhetoric...did it not occur to anyone in government that one terrorist act was all they would do? Then just make threats to screw up everything here...
I read the excerpts and it sounds like they are saying they can use any info passed through their server...if you set Gaim up to use your AOL account, and it is passed through the AOL server, then they will still have (in their opinion) the right to use the info you transfer...
What I learned of basic psychology stated that men are "task oriented" while women are "relationship oriented" (this DOES NOT mean they are looking for a relationship). What it does mean is that men will focus down on one point, while women are better able to see the big picture. Each type has a place in IT, however, many older, upper level IT management types, who are typically men, prefer the men who focus on one task at a time. Why? Because they, as managers, are supposed to look at the big picture, and the women in the ranks who see the big picture make them feel threatened! This leads to them taking a better view of the men in their department, and overlooking the women's skills...and the women get tired of this and leave. I have seen this happen over and over in businesses, both where I work and with customers I support...
Wisconsin passes "purchased download tax"...
Other states follow example...
Federal government decides to get a cut...
IRS installs tracking software on all computers to ensure voluntary taxes are paid...
Internet privacy and freedom become a thing of the past...
I am a sysadmin, so maybe some of you writing programs can say "yea or nay" to this...If the problem is money for data analysis, why not a program like SETI at Home to crunch it? I would be willing to run something like this to see that they keep the missions going...I am afraid the day after they quit analyzing the data, they will find life!
I worked for a small software house for a while, as the installer/trainer. Our owner was very excited about laws that were passed in the US (state by state) making it almost impossible for someone to sue him as long as he could show he was working on the issues. IANAL, and don't profess to understand all the in's and out's of the legal system, but it seemed to me that these types of laws really hurt the industry more than they helped...His ability to put off bug fixes eventually gave him a bad reputation...
Absolutely...It is a personal choice. Many societies look at death differently than we Americans do. Death is tied up in family, religion and the American Dream for us. A much better way is for people who truely love you to support your decision, try to understand, and remember you. We are all going to die; it seems much better to choose the time and the way, rather than holding on for the last little bit with no quality of life. Enjoy your own wake, and then quietly go your way...
This does confuse a lot of people...that's okay. With software mirroring, the OS will spend system resources writing to both disks in a mirror, then spend more resources making sure the disks stay synced. With the hardware RAID, the RAID Adapter driver talks to the OS, so that the OS reads and writes from the adapter. The adapter does the multi-drive write and sync, so the OS does not have to use resources for this...with the added benefit that, in some environments, since the OS sees one drive (actually the adapter), if one drive in the mirror goes down the OS never knows...no reconfig to boot from the other drive, etc.
I have not had good luck with rebuilding arrays from drives, even though some RAID config utils have this feature...if it was my project, I would not count on being able to save the data on the drives...if you do get the array rebuilt from the drives I would be interested in knowing what 8 port card you used, and the nuts and bolts of how you got it to work...good luck!
Just got in a new IBM XSeries 306 with integrated ServeRaid and dual SATA Drives...there were no drivers for SuSE 9.1...Suse 9.2 found the drives on its own, but at the time of install there were no ServeRaid drivers...ended up mirroring with SuSE...
If you are constantly exposed to real violence you will become desensitized to it...however if you are constantly exposed to violent video games, you will become desensitized to fake violence...this goes on and on and on...Radio, TV, Video Games...Feed kids crap, send them to boring schools, stuff them full of drugs for every little thing, give them no supervision, let them feel unloved, deserted, and alone, then blame video games for their violence...
Well...not quite my intent...more of like this...everyone says these people have not committed a crime when they put up the site...that the crime is committed when they rip someone off. I have never advocated taking government out of the crime and punishment phase, but I do advocate using misdirection in any situation where it will save innocents... IMHO, misdirection before a crime is a protective measure, not vigilantism.
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I am sitting here in a cube, reading the posts on this DRM discussion, and suddenly it hits me...Is this really important?
Is there any video or music that I want bad enough to worry with DRM's? If I want a video, I will buy it, and (IANAL but)I think in doing so I am agreeing to whatever license is stipulated. But is it worth all these arguments and stress...endless discussions, etc.?
I look out the window and see trees and a lake and I can walk out and watch and hear the eagles that are trying to catch the fish in the lake. There are geese on the shore of the lake...and it is better than any video...
GOODBY, SLASHDOT...I think I will go spend some time on important stuff...
Well, this is off topic I guess, but...
It has been said over and over that everyone hates lawyers until they need one...
I have had dealings with three attorneys over the last few years; two were excellent human beings and one was just out for money, no different than many other professions.
A few rotten apples have spoiled the public perception; along with that there is the popular entertainment view; greasy defenders in Law and Order (which I do enjoy), attorneys presented like the one in Jurassic Park, and on and on...
Thank you! Always good to have my facts straight! I always read the three H's (Herbert, Heinlein, and Hubbard) SciFi as philosophy rather than as SciFi...
The same arguments for and against storing fingerprints were put forth when the state and federal governments began to store them. Now it is accepted as part of life. The technology certainly exists to fake someone's fingerprints from a file copy and present it as evidence, yet this does not happen, at least not that we know of...
The question boils down to "Is the storing of DNA a further reduction of my personal freedom?" I feel the answer is yes, but not in a substantial way.
When you consider the info that is tracked on you, then you realize that there is nothing that is not available now. Tax forms, credit applications, credit/debit card purchases, payroll/hr info, auto tags, drivers license, concealed weapons permits, passport, insurance questionaires, etc., you soon realize that if the government wants to know all about you they will.
There is no privacy. You eat government approved food, drink approved water, drive approved cars, live in approved houses, brush your teeth with approved toothpaste, work in approved environments, wear approved clothes (fire retardence, etc.), see rated movies, go to licensed professionals, and on and on and on...
If they chose to they could tell you what you eat, where you go, who you are with, how often you have sex, what your preferences are in paint colors, clothing, autos, and just about everything else.
This is called "Your Tax Dollars At Work".
Adding your DNA to the list of things that they know about you will just give them a common identifier for all these other things...rather than using your name on the file, it will have your DNA imprint.
When you really see how you are controlled, very like a rat in a cage, you will see that this is just the next step.
Someone once said that the illusion of freedom is more important than freedom itself. So you are told you can vote, and move from one state to another, and all of these things...but is that freedom, or the illusion of freedom in a controlled society...sorry if I am a little off topic...one of my pet peeves!
I first saw this in Robert A. Heinlein's work...guess he was using it in the 1950's...First book of his I remember seeing it in was "Friday"...don't know if he originated it, or just used it...
A card that says "See ID" forces you to ensure that the name on the card matches the name on the ID, while the picture on the ID matches the person making the charge! This is much more secure that just comparing a signature...Sounds like this company was more concerned with rules than actually verifying legitimate purchases...
IMHO the problem is not computers, which are just tools, or teachers, who for the most part really care and try. The fault lies with an educational system that teaches conformity and, in many instances, punishes brilliance.
If a lot of you slashdotters were like me, then you were not only put down by other kids for being intelligent, your teachers also got tired of you having all the answers!
We have a school system in the United States that puts an athelete on a pedestal while putting down the intelligent children. Children are taught to play well with others, learn what you need to work for some big corporation, don't question authority, and to just get by. Anything else is punished.
If children were allowed to grow to their potential, discover themselves, and not forced to conform, we might start to see some changes...
I have read a lot on religions in society, and came to this conclusion: We, in the United States, are a very young society, that dissassociated itself with the pasts of the countries that we came from. Japan has a culture that spans thousands of years, as do many other countries. This provides "cultural momentum" to the society, and gives the memebers of the society a place to "stand" so to speak. In the United States we do not have this, so many people grasp the toughest religious viewpoint to give themselves a firm place to stand, emotionally, when things around them are in flux. Older cultures stand on the traditions of thousands of years, while we stand on newly formed principles. Taking a long view of history, the scary part is that we in the United States are forming the foundation of the traditions that will be around in hundreds of years...and I am not sure that we are building something that will be any good down the road!
Yeah...I thought about that after I typed it...can't always preview...bosses around...you know...
That's okay...I will join you in hell...I was wondering how they would order it from IBM's online website...
"Those who are willing to trade freedom for security deserve neither freedom or security..." Benjamin Franklin.
I will not live my life in fear that every threat is the real deal; I will not change my travel plans, cower in my home, or submit to stupid rules because of other's fears.
Our current government is a product of our times; the threat of terrorism has always been there. On 9-11 a group was successful. Most only talk; almost all of the ones who try to do something will be caught. Most people in the United States have already traded their freedom for the security that our current government promises them.
I refuse to join this group of lemmings running headlong off the pinnacled cliff of democracy and into the shadowed valley of a police state. I understand that there is no way back up the mountain once you have fallen to your death.
Each of us is faced with that choice, regardless of where we live. Life is a series of choices; I make mine based on what I see and believe, not what others tell me to do, not on government propaganda, and certainly not on information gleaned from our news media.
You, like me, are faced with the same choices every day...we will all choose either freedom or security in each situation that we face. I have made my choice to live free.
Abusing people may not be happening, but that does not mean that the Patriot Act is not stomping all over our rights. You are not "abused" if your free travel is interfered with; but your rights are being interefered with...
So the government cannot find evidence of the government doing wrong? Hmmm...
The terrorists never really have to do anything else in the US other than use rhetoric...did it not occur to anyone in government that one terrorist act was all they would do? Then just make threats to screw up everything here...
I read the excerpts and it sounds like they are saying they can use any info passed through their server...if you set Gaim up to use your AOL account, and it is passed through the AOL server, then they will still have (in their opinion) the right to use the info you transfer...
What I learned of basic psychology stated that men are "task oriented" while women are "relationship oriented" (this DOES NOT mean they are looking for a relationship). What it does mean is that men will focus down on one point, while women are better able to see the big picture. Each type has a place in IT, however, many older, upper level IT management types, who are typically men, prefer the men who focus on one task at a time. Why? Because they, as managers, are supposed to look at the big picture, and the women in the ranks who see the big picture make them feel threatened! This leads to them taking a better view of the men in their department, and overlooking the women's skills...and the women get tired of this and leave. I have seen this happen over and over in businesses, both where I work and with customers I support...
Wisconsin passes "purchased download tax"... Other states follow example... Federal government decides to get a cut... IRS installs tracking software on all computers to ensure voluntary taxes are paid... Internet privacy and freedom become a thing of the past...
I am a sysadmin, so maybe some of you writing programs can say "yea or nay" to this...If the problem is money for data analysis, why not a program like SETI at Home to crunch it? I would be willing to run something like this to see that they keep the missions going...I am afraid the day after they quit analyzing the data, they will find life!
I read the press release...Doesn't sound to me like Ozzie is changing sides or anything...looks like Groove was always in bed with Microsoft...
I worked for a small software house for a while, as the installer/trainer. Our owner was very excited about laws that were passed in the US (state by state) making it almost impossible for someone to sue him as long as he could show he was working on the issues. IANAL, and don't profess to understand all the in's and out's of the legal system, but it seemed to me that these types of laws really hurt the industry more than they helped...His ability to put off bug fixes eventually gave him a bad reputation...
make them role play...ain't it a funny world!
Absolutely...It is a personal choice. Many societies look at death differently than we Americans do. Death is tied up in family, religion and the American Dream for us. A much better way is for people who truely love you to support your decision, try to understand, and remember you. We are all going to die; it seems much better to choose the time and the way, rather than holding on for the last little bit with no quality of life. Enjoy your own wake, and then quietly go your way...
This does confuse a lot of people...that's okay. With software mirroring, the OS will spend system resources writing to both disks in a mirror, then spend more resources making sure the disks stay synced. With the hardware RAID, the RAID Adapter driver talks to the OS, so that the OS reads and writes from the adapter. The adapter does the multi-drive write and sync, so the OS does not have to use resources for this...with the added benefit that, in some environments, since the OS sees one drive (actually the adapter), if one drive in the mirror goes down the OS never knows...no reconfig to boot from the other drive, etc.
I have not had good luck with rebuilding arrays from drives, even though some RAID config utils have this feature...if it was my project, I would not count on being able to save the data on the drives...if you do get the array rebuilt from the drives I would be interested in knowing what 8 port card you used, and the nuts and bolts of how you got it to work...good luck!
Just got in a new IBM XSeries 306 with integrated ServeRaid and dual SATA Drives...there were no drivers for SuSE 9.1...Suse 9.2 found the drives on its own, but at the time of install there were no ServeRaid drivers...ended up mirroring with SuSE...
If you are constantly exposed to real violence you will become desensitized to it...however if you are constantly exposed to violent video games, you will become desensitized to fake violence...this goes on and on and on...Radio, TV, Video Games...Feed kids crap, send them to boring schools, stuff them full of drugs for every little thing, give them no supervision, let them feel unloved, deserted, and alone, then blame video games for their violence...
Well...not quite my intent...more of like this...everyone says these people have not committed a crime when they put up the site...that the crime is committed when they rip someone off. I have never advocated taking government out of the crime and punishment phase, but I do advocate using misdirection in any situation where it will save innocents... IMHO, misdirection before a crime is a protective measure, not vigilantism.